Doug recaps the Patriots win over the Giants on Thursday Night Football and how life has come full circle for Tom Brady in New England. He also explains why nobody should be surprised that the Browns are in their current position this season. He explains why the Giants are winners with Daniel Jones even though they lost to the Patriots. Plus, Doug gives you his 5 for 5 in college football and the NFL.

Guests Include: Geoff Schwartz, John Middlekauff and Ryen Russillo.