HOUR 2- The Midway

Published Nov 20, 2024, 10:03 PM

On this version of "The Midway", Doug and the crew share what their most intriguing storyline in the college football season moving forward. NFL Analyst Daniel Jeremiah joins Doug to talk about the Chargers, Bills and all of the other major NFL headlines. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through "The Press".

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I mean next yours right around the corner that it's crazy. How time flaish.

And of course the old joke of I just got used to write in twenty twenty four of my checks goes away because nobody actually writes checks anymore. I do actually write checks.

My mind still to write checks.

My mom and dad used to write checks to Vaughn's for cash and get.

My dad did the same thing checks to Vaughan's for cash. Bit of a flawed system there, but somehow they stop that.

If we still do that, we just get it right out of the checking account for your via your debit card if you want to.

But writing a check is it's good?

It's good. I'm good for this.

Yeah. But listen, my dad used to have he's my uh ten years ago he passed. But before that, like dude, three different times he drove off from this way. He only went to one gas station Orange calip for you. There's a mobile station. What is that the corner of I think it's like the corner of like Paulmira and Chapman Avenue. And he always went to the same mobile station. And three times he drove off with the hose still in in the the nozzle still in the gas thing and busted it. Three times. But before that, you know, he would this is back that's that was an old station that I think is Dan's exon. And you know, he just go in, pull in, put the gas in. And for a long time there were several times where he forgot to pay for the gas because he used to be able to pump gas before he paid for it. Then it got to the point to where there were times in which he went and paid for it and then drove off without pumping and a gas in there. A bit of an appts in mind, the professor. All right, enough about talking about old days. Let's uh, let's get to the midway. He's knocket in the middle here.

It's time for he stuck in the middle the Midway?

All right, Jay sto or Dan, But I think this more of a Dan byer. You love this because you and I much born too with college football. What's the topic djure for Midway?

It's a Jason Stewart idea. But yeah, you know me, I love college football, so I'm totally down.

Thank you, Dan.

I'll take it from here.

I just want to know, like, from right now, moving forward, what is the most intriguing storyline to you? What are you looking forward to seeing play out. The most of the four of us, I'm the most casual college football guy, so I'm going to just get mine out of the way, and then I'm going to listen to you guys geek out for the next seventeen minutes about college football. I'm interested in this Army Notre Dame game coming up. You know, if Notre Dame wins and they are fourteen point favorites, they could be classified as unpatriotic. How could you not allow Army to go undefeated? It's the one hundredth anniverse of the Four Horsemen game, as pointed out by Pat Forty. I get all my college football content from Pat forty, one hundredth anniborsary of the Four Horsemen game. How could Notre Dame in good conscience beat Army in an election year? So I will definitely call them on patriotic if they do so, I'm rooting for Army in this game.

That was I did not see that one coming me either.

I'm glad. I'm glad it did though.

Yeah, Okay, what do you got there?

Dan barr Well, what has been intriguing to me throughout this process of the reveal is what we've seen with the first round games, the bys are whatever, and the buys are going to be in bowls, and whoever wins the Big Ten is going to end up playing in the Rose Bowl against the winner of whatever game. But each week we have these match for ten matchups right now, but at some point they will become real that are so salivating that you need a gallon of water to just wash down the great taste of these matchups. Look at this, because of BYU's loss this past weekend to Kansas, they've fallen out of the automatic buy because they aren't the highest ranked conference winner of the five. They are actually fifth. The four highest rated conference winners get buys. So BYU would be at Ohio State, Alabama would be at Notre Dame Georgia at Penn State in Ole, Miss at Indiana, And I know there was some talk about maybe moving these games. Maybe Ohio State would move a game to Indianapolis. I don't know if that's possible. But those four games on what would be home sites for the first round.

Two in the state of Indiana, one in Ohio.

That'd be mazing'd be crazy, heck, and next door to Ohio's Pennsylvani where Penn State is. But you would have Alabama, Georgia and Ole Miss all going on the road facing these cold weather teams in December, and that to me is is what.

I don't know how the bracket's gonna play out.

I have no idea, So I am so focused on those four matchups and seeing those every week as a whole is what is really what does it for me? Last night I loved seeing these matchups and they've been great every single week.

I love it too. It's never gonna happen, right, Ohio State and Indiana are not going to be you know, whoever wins this weekend buses this weekend gonna be in bad shape. Indiana wins, they're a lock to be in Ohio State and now all of a sudden, I think they get in. But like last seed type of type of deal.

But it also doesn't mean if if Indiana were to lose then going on the road, you know, Tay, that's not the point though, the po The point is these matchups that we've got, like these yeah, they are more than awesome. I mean Alabama Notre Dame, you know, like I think Cror was, like Georgia Notre Dame. I mean it's we're gonna get four unbelievable, great first round games, and I think that that's what is so awesome about this bracket.

I would agree with that.

Dan, on your on your point there, I am curious, just like you brought up how these Southern teams go on the road and play. How will they fare playing in cold weather in the winter. We've never done this before. We've done it in the FCS. But you know, the SEC teams, they don't really like leaving their neck of the woods. They like they like having a neutral site game in the South. They like having other teams come to their home stadiums. But now you're really gonna have to see, you know, a George like you know, I had the picture just right in a Georgia at Penn State.

You know that just kind of Alabama and Notre Dame. It blows your mind and go along with that.

If it was flipped, I know, like the cold weather is, but it still would be like, oh, Penn State's at Georgia.

Yes, please sign me up. I want to see that game.

When Alabama went and played at Wisconsin this year, Alabama ended up, you know, boat racing them, I mean, but it was neat to see Alabama on the road at a Big ten school.

I definitely, I completely agree with what you're getting at Dan, which is like these are matchups we can only dream of having it we have in playoffs, and there's gonna be some good ones. But I would also caution people like snapshot of now know there's you know, Water's gonna find its level some I still think how many SEC teams like five right? Five? Feels about the five is gonna happen? Who are those five teams? And then how they're how they're spaced out. You know, the most shrinking storyline is going to be Indiana assuming they lose this weekend? How do we view them? And I just I saw we're all just kidding ourselves, like there it's a great story. But they haven't been anybody that anybody thinks is any good. They just haven't. They haven't played anybody in the Big ten that's any good. Not one. Have they been one team that's about five hundred and the Big Ten that's crazy, Like what are we doing? And the Big Ten's not a great conference even Big ten.

People, Yeah, it's top there's a lot of like five and five teams that are desperate to get to a bullet.

And look, I'm a Big twelve guy. I'll tell you the Big twelve is not any good either.

But okay, now let me let me let me give you this, Doug.

What is the SEC has all the players? The SEC Ohio State at Oregon, they have all the players. It's not a fair fight. Okay, it's just not Sorry, go ahead, Well I.

Was gonna say so, I've seen now Boise State getting a first round by over the Big twelve champs. You saw that where the bracket they do?

Yeah?

So, boys, And I don't tell me why it is because of the three point Oregon. I love Voise they have a really great tailback and ash and genty and but they're betting up there.

Anybody to one second? Does anybody think for one second that they would win the Big twelve? I don't And yeah they could, no, but not build it that way.

Don't deserve a by. I don't know about that, right.

Yeah, okay, so you're saying they're better than the Big twelve champ not Look what are we doing? Like again, it's totally fine if you want to include Boisey State, great they're the twelfth team. Fine, okay with that, put them on the road again, something like give them a home buy. What are we doing? It's just bordersign ridiculous, like we get and and this is in many ways, it's a lot. It's it's very it's like we have to please these people and be no, we don't you're including them in the playoff. They're not as good. Can they win one game? Can they win three? Zero chants? Not a single possible chance. Football is different than even basketball. It just is you're like, well, the NCAA tournament, these teams can I got it? Okay, and maybe for one game, for one game, Boise State could beat an Oklahoma team in the Fiesta Bowl. They couldn't have turned around the next week and beaten Texas the next week or whomever. They just couldn't. They're not built for that. It's a sport of attrition, and there's gonna be a ton of attrition in this. That's why people don't want to play in these conference championship games because now you had an extra game if you lose. Now, if you get to the playoffs, now you got to play three more games. Like you're just roster is going to be decimated. And if you're not in the SEC where you would load it up with talent, you shot, You got no shot.

Now, I think that we should caution and say that there's a lot of football.

To be played.

Sure, and the likelihood of a Big twelve champion leaping Boise State for that buy is in all likelihood, I think a real possibility. Boise State doesn't have enough on their resume to probably improve where they are. Where if you are BYU, if you are Colorado, one of those schools, you will have an opportunity to improve your resume, which would put you higher in the rankings. But Doug, you mentioned it. I think it was yesterday or maybe it was even earlier today when you mentioned Remember when USF was like second in the rankings.

Yes, that's where we are.

Maybe we're a little bit further down the road than when USF was there. But this is the point you're going to say, five years I can remember at that point when Boise State had a buy at one point in this playoff. That's what we're going to think of, and that's what we're going to remember. And maybe it's the same case with Indiana. Indiana, right now is enjoying this ride, and I think that people like Doug always think of the end process with this Indiana's. I mean, it's the journey, right, it's not the destination. So even if if Indiana gets left out of the playoff that I think that would stink for them. But their season has been quite the wild ride so far, so kudos to them. Like, there's a lot to be excited about with ten and zero, but I would caution in just saying that, yeah, the SEC is better, so they should get more teams they basically do. I mean, the ACC and the Big twelve only have one representative, so it's between the SEC and the Big ten, and yeah, it's a little bit more difficult to split hairs between those two than any of the other two conferences.

Right, fair, it's not about but to me, it's not about entrance into it. And I know that BOYC nearly beat Organ at home, and I understand that Oregan's had two games where they survived from Toloyse at home or Ohio stayed at home. I'd say the challenge is that, again, the attrition of the season in these big, big boy conferences, especially when you play the top teams in the Big Boy Conferences. It's just different, all right.

I want everybody here to pick an SEC team that they think can win it all because we got a lot of candidates. Who do you who do you like if the SEC goes on to win it all? Who do you like doing doing so well? I like Carson Beck, I think more than others like. I think it's there.

I know he hasn't been great, but I do think that there is something there with him.

I agree. I mean I would say Georgia one, Alabama two, those are.

The I see.

I'm going to exclude Old Miss and Georgia because of what happened when they played Kentucky. Kentucky went on the road upset Ole Miss, and they were a point shy of upsetting Georgia.

And wait, they lost to Georgia. And you're gonna hold it against Georgia.

They they, yes, they Georgia should have gone there. One in six Kentucky is one you don't If you don't like CC.

I got it. If you don't like they have laws, I got it. If you don't like them, who do you like?

I like Texas And I know that Georgia went on the road and beat Texas the whole wild bottle tossing thing, yeah, badly, But I think that they have a great quarterback. And I think the Texas Longhorn Rans are the team to be Okay, well, well they are. I mean right now they're the top. Yeah, but I think they will. They're the team that I would pick to go and run. If Fanessa team does it, they're going to do it.

We're doing college football storylines Doug Otlieb show here on Fox Sports Trade It. By the way, uh, Lolo who asked me why I say my name during an interview and that it's FOXFORDFRA that's called a reset. That's actually excellent formatic radio. Just you know, Lolo, appreciate you. Listen before we before we conclude this midway. Isn't it an interesting how little anybody cares about the Heisman Trophy. It feels like it feels like a two team, two guy race, right Travis Hunter, cam Ward is that I'm missing anybody and maybe genty, maybe the kid from Boise State. Those are the three.

Yeah, that's good.

That's a good three, you know, but gosh, it's it's an award that just it's not the same level of discussion anymore, not the same anybody else, any anybody else, any else they want to get in. Okay, I know, got what happens at Florida State. That's a big story line of me.

One last point.

Yeah, Northern Illinois lost to Miami, Ohio last night twenty to nine to slip to six and five and three and four in the mac. Notre Dame fans have to be scratching their head and be like, how did that happen? How did we lose a home to a Northern Illinois team that is not particularly special this year.

It's just got to be a head scratcher.

No, man, it's what do you think? They just beat A and M on the road, they come back home, they see Northern Illinois. Oh yeah, seriously and as Northern Illinois super Bowl.

Yeah, at least you got that win over Notre Dame.

Man's that's baseball, and that's the Midway, the Midway.

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It's Doug Ottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio coming to you from the tyraq dot com Studios a reminder shortly after the show, our podcast will be going up. You've missed any today's show, be sure she got the podcast. Juster Still Gottlieberg podcast follow, subscribe, rate, review our podcast again, Doug Gottlieberver give all your podcasts and you'll get it. Let's have a little football discussion with our good friend Daniel Jeremiah DJ is an NFL analyst for the NFL Network. He co hosts and moved the Sixth podcast and and he's one of the co hosts of I'm Sorry. He's the color analyst for the LA Chargers radio networks. Let's start with the Chargers, like, this is not on paper a great roster. You have an elite quarterback who we don't think I mean Quentin Johnson people thought couldn't play. I understand the schedule is a fourth place schedule, but how are they doing this so quickly with Jim Harball as their head coach.

Well, Doug, I give Harball a lot of credit, and I give your Ortiz a lot of credit as well with some of the things they did in the offseason. They mac simize their dollars in a year where they let Mike and Keenan go to go out and get Ladd mccackey in the second round, who's been a really really good player, who's you know, on a taste to have over a thousand yards. That that was a good pickup. Some of the other low cost additions, like the guys like Bud Dupree didn't cost much, Elijah Moulden. They got some good, smart, just good solid veteran players. Maybe not the highest ceiling, but you add that with the way harpball has has kind of run this operation with Jesse Minner and Greg Roman as coordinators. They don't blow coverages, they don't blow assignment's up front along the offensive line, they do not turn the ball over. It's incredible. I mean, Herbert's got one interception as we're sitting here right now. So I mean, it's the old adage, you know, as a coach, I'm sure you say it all the time, guys, let's not beat ourselves. They beat us, they beat us, but we're not going to beat ourselves. And that's exactly the way they're playing.

You know. It's interesting. I mean, how many blowing coverages do they have last year?

Oh my gosh, I don't have enough fingers and toes.

It's amazing, just amazing. Okay, you got to see the Bengals. Is it simply the defense isn't any good? Like what what's happened there?

Well, first of all, I left that stadium, and I'm sure you watch the game. I'd be curious if we had the same thought I left there. First of all, it's a it's a great it's a good win for the Chargers. I've seen them lose that game a million times. But I left that stadium and the overwhelming thought I had was Joe Burrow is a killer. He is an assassin, and he makes up and makes them competitive in a lot of games where they don't have business being competitive with an offensive line that's not very good. They have one pass rusher on defense is really kind of their only elite player on that side of the ball, obviously, Jamar Chase te Higgins. They got some receivers, but Joe Burrow is unbelievable. Man, he is so freaking good. But they have they have a lot of other roster warts they need to address.

How good is Jamar Chase.

He's awesome. I mean, he's just he's he's he's pretty electric. I mean, it's to me, the rare thing about him is just how strong he is. You know, he's he's he's explosive, he's fat, he can go get the ball. You know, he can run routes, do everything you need to do there. But to me, it's just his play strength. Guys, you have to try and press him. He chucks them, guys, try and grab him and hold him at the top of the route. He could just power through it. I would look at him and it almost looks like he's got some running back to him. He kind of reminds me I saw before he had all the injuries. That was an NBA game, and so Derek rose before, you know, before the injuries got him. Like, he just looks like he's a different explosiveness than everybody else's on the field.

Stuck Gottleab show here on Fox Sports Radio. Dana Jeremiah is our guest. Okay, there's a lot of discussion today about Dion and Chaudeur to the Cowboys. Okay. What I like about our relationship DJ is we can just talk reality, okay, not TV talk radio talk. First thing is they just signed Dak and the extension becomes live for next year. Okay. It's like, is there any world in which they try and you get him to wave his no trade and move him?

I don't see that. I mean, that'd be a complicated scenario that I don't know how they pulled out one off. Okay. Plus, So the ironic thing is Jerry Jones, like in the nineties, was famous for these types of moves, right, the splashy moves. It was Dion as a player, It was Charles Hayley as a player. You know, it was It was definitely a different style. When was the last time the Cowboys did the big splashing thing? I think we always talk about it when their coaching job comes up. That's not really the way Jerry Jones is operated. So, I mean, this would be the ultimate splash into the you know, off the high dive into the deep end. I just I don't think that's how he's been running this thing.

Would it would it work to have a coach like Dion have his son at quarterback.

Well, we've never seen it, you know, And I'll be totally transparent. I had darious doubts of whether they'd be able to make the leap from from Jackson State to Colorado and have this type of success that they've had. I tip, I tip my cap to him. I mean, they've they've far exceeded my expectations. I don't know that I've ever seen that really done before. So there's no president there. I mean, I'd hate to I hate to put a limit on and say it can't be done because you know, I lost a bet with with uh thru velpment on him this year because he was telling me about the defensive coordinator how much he liked him, and I said, Bruce, I know they got a bunch of new players, but like they couldn't block anybody last year. Going to the Big Twelve, where I think will be.

Good, it's it's an easier league.

It's a well, the Big twelve is not what I thought it was going to be. Utah is nowhere near what I thought they were going to be. You know, they lost to Kansas State. He's a solid team, but a bunch of those teams are kind of you know, they're not worthy. I thought anticipate they'd be Arizona not being any good. I didn't see that, Kevin, but I mean eight wins man, they I didn't see him get that number. So I'd be fascinated to see it, Doug, I would have I would have my doubts, but I would be uh, I would be tuned in to be fascinating.

What's your read on Jordan Love with I know they won and they continue to own the Bears, but another pick a red zone lose be lost. Yeah, I thought, like I'm not and I've never been. You got to fire a guy, and obviously now you're coaching, you have an added heightened sensitivity. And I met ebra Flus in the preseason. Good dude, good people down there. But the fireable offence was not trying to get inside of a forty yard kick. Yeah, yeah to me, because everything changed if you if you get to a thirty five yard or a thirty seven yard you've pretty much done everything you can to get to where you're, you know, mid nineties in terms of winning the game. Forty six yarder and it wasn't a good kick. It was too low and they didn't block well. But that's process wise. I think he's going to be gone. But we'll get to Bears in a second. Let's just start with with Packers or Jordan Love, is this fixable? Because it's every game he has a pick.

Yeah, I think it is. You know, I just go back to like Josh Allen Early. You know, obviously Jordan Love didn't have to play, he got the luxury of sitting. But it's still he's getting experience on the job here. You know, Josh turned the ball over a good bed. He kind of gave you a bunch of good, but then gave you some of the bad. They're they're finding ways to overcome it. He's still finding ways to make enough place to win games. So I mean, I I would say this, I would rather in the in the quarterbacks in that game, and that was one of the better games for Caleb, But for young guy that's out there, I almost I would rather have him be a little bit aggressive versus just you know, have no stinger and be scared to death to make a mistake and you just kind of live with it, work with it, teach him through those moments. But I find it, I find it hard to believe you can win big if you're just going to be ultra ultra ultra safe and conservative. Just you can't win big games against good teams that way. So I wouldn't want to take away a stinger.

No question. Okay, did you see anything different from Kayleb Williams.

With the new coordinator, Yeah, I did. I thought that he was less anchored to the pocket where I just felt like for some reason, he was just settling in his feet in the pocket and just like I have to sit here and until I feel comfortable about, you know, where I want to go with this football. And his clock was slow and he wasn't moving. I thought in this one there was let's get the ball out quick with some screens. Let's not hang in the pocket. Let's let's see if it's there early, take it. If not, go just you know, it's the young quarterbacks's let's not worry about one, two, three run. Let's look at one. One's not there, maybe two at the most, but then just get the heck out of there and go go run, Go make a play, Go make something happen. I was talking with Bucky this week and I pulled up a number going through the PFF stats for the season, and you know, how how many times have you heard and I'm sure I've been guilty of saying it, like, hey, this is an on time, on schedule league. You know, if you're going to win, you have to play on time, you have to play within the structure of the offense. That's quarterbacking, you know, not the scramble stuff. Well, then I pulled these numbers and I brought them up to Bucky and I was like, you know, we say that, but then you look at the quarterbacks that are scrambling. Here's the list of the quarterbacks that scrambled the most this year. It's Jaydon Daniels, Rock Purty, Bownicks, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes as Stroud, and then Caleb Williams like, that's not a bad company to keep there. You know, you got your legs, go use them, go make a play. That's how that's how that's working in the NFL right now.

How important for the Bills was winning Sunday.

Oh, it's huge, absolutely huge. They're going to see each other again, you know, and they're giving themselves a chance of having that game in Buffalo, but even if it's in Kansas City. I just think it's another reminder, you know, they match up with them very well. You know, always go back to that playoff game that they let slip away, that they had firmly in their grasp they match up well with Kansas City, and this is a This is a I even say, is a better Buffalo team and a worse Kansas City team. You know, don't worry about the records, just with what they're playing with. So I thought, no, that's a that's a big confidence boost.

For that crew, no question about it. Doug Gotlieb show here on Fox Sports, Try do. Daniel Jeremiah's our guest. Threeing out is the Sorry Move the Sticks is the podcast. Of course, you can see them on the NFL network. You can hear them call Charger games the Niners. Why aren't they better?

I don't know. I was started to explain it early in the season as they were sleepwalking board, you know, and now I'm like, well, no, this is not this has kind of gone beyond that. This is just sloppy, really just not crisp on either side. I know they've you know, get McCaffrey back the last couple of weeks that I think, wow, that'll magically solve this, but it really hasn't. They haven't had the big explosive plays, so I mean, yeah, there's there's definitely reason for concern. I don't know if I buy the you know, Shanahan needs to get fired talk at this point in time. But you know, the good thing for them, the good thing for their organization is that here they are in this rut and the rest of the division didn't go away from them. They all just kind of hanging there, letting them hang around, so they have some time to figure it out. But it's it's reached the point in the season where I'd be a little bit concerned that they're they're drifting and falling behind the upper echelon of their conference.

DJ, great stuff as always, Man, have yourself an outstanding weekend. Thanks so much for joining us on Fox Sports Radio.

You're the best, buddy.

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That It's a Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. I hope you having a great day. Doug gotleep Show broadcast live at thety right dot Com studios every day. At the end of the first hour of the show, we hand the rains Dan Byer and say game Master, play me a game.

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For Better or Worse?

All right?

I just threw something out on x I would put it up on Blue Sky danbyer dot bsky dot social if you're looking to follow, I'd love to have you along, But I don't know how to do polls on that one. But I just put up a tweet, yes, ask asking right now would you rather who would you rather have as a head coach at a college program? Lincoln Riley or Dion Sanders. So that's where we're gonna start, Doug for Better or Worse college football head coach right now? Lincoln Riley versus Dion Sanders.

I'm not going to be prisoner of the moment. I'm gonna go with Lincoln Riley again. And if we're if we're fair, like Dion, you got great quarterback and you got arguably the best, I think the best football player in college football. So and you've coached those guys for four years as well, or yeah, four years, So yeah, I'm gonna go Lincoln Riley.

All right.

I'll give results at the end of the show as the votes are pouring in, but still way too early to call. You can see again the results yourself at Dan Byer on Fox that is on X. All right, Doug, for better or worse? Better story on getting to the NBA Dalton Connect versus Bronnie James. Come on, no, I know, but I don't do these games for right.

College Colorado to Tennessee. Which one's better or which one's worse? I mean, let's let's let's do Ronnie James is worse?

Okay? All right?

Yes, I think the whole Dalton Connect story, even just last year, and it's it was it was my take, if you will, or one of my opinions during the whole draft process when they drafted him, is the Dalton Connect story of where he came from and what he's accomplished. And then last night is thirty seven points and nine threes. Yeah, yeah, amazing, all right, Doug. He's a bucket for better or worse conference in college football ACC versus the Big Twelve.

Oh, that's a hard one. I'm gonna say the ACC being better. Yeah, Miami and Clemson are better than anybody in the Big Twelve.

Don't forget about Iowa. Sam's Pitt Panthers, and.

Don't forget about Smun's fine, but they're not.

They're at the top of the league, aren't they.

Yeah, yes again, but they haven't played anybody.

It also didn't fit my joke of Iowa Sam's passion for Pitt. They've fallen off a little bit. All Right, we got a Harball coming up for Better or Worse? Doug coaching resume. Jim Harball versus John Harball.

Jim, Jim, John's been outstanding.

He's got the Super Bowl he does at one place.

Jim has a super Bowl. He's winning with the Chargers National Championship San Diego. He won with turned Stanford from a no win team to a BCS team. Jim.

All right, Doug, we have a list of now twenty five modern era semi finalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. For Better or Worse as a first ballot Hall of Famer, Eli Manning versus Luke Keikley. Oh yeah, who's got a who's got a better I guess candidacy resume?

I mean Lukeley to me is a well, he's got a better candidacy. I mean they're both gonna get in the highs. For Eli Manning are higher, but Luke Keickley was in any conversation the best linebacker in the league for I don't know, close to a decade, So I would go Luke Keigley.

Okay, I think that's fair.

For better or worse, same question, Eli Manning versus Charelle Suggs. Like Keithley a Defensive Player of the Year, Suggs Super Bowl champion, Like Eli Manning awesome that one.

I'm gonna go that one. I'm gonna go Eli. Okay, Suggs is really good. He's at a position where he was one of the best. I don't think he was unquestionably the best, and not that not that Eli was ever the best quarterback in the league, but he was consistent, he was good, and then obviously in big games he was great. I'll go with Eli that one.

All right.

For better or worse the landing spot for Juan Soto. Three team question here, Yankees versus Mets versus Dodgers. I know Toronto and Boston are in it, but for the sake of this question, we'll just go with those three.

Uh. Yankees for better, Dodgers for.

Worse, okay, And finally for better or worse? Boxing match Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul or Floyd Maybeweather versus Connor McGregor.

Uh, I think Floyd Mayweather versus Conor McGregor, even though Connor, you know, had very little kind of boxing skill, it was also brilliant. Would Floy Mayweather would really let him like throw a bunch of punches in the first shoe round to exhaust himself so he couldn't hurt him. So I thought that was kind of the sweet science and effect. Whereas the logan Paul thing was a joke or Jake Paul thing was a joke.

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