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Pas Talk, which old you it's a big d L and Dion got it. Welcome in. It's a Friday talking college football on a college basketball Friday. We'll also be talking NBA, as Moncy just mentioned the Memphis Grizzlies making a change at head coach and the Milwaukee Bucks going to be playing without Damian Lillard for a while. Is that maybe better that he and Giannis are separated at this point? We'll talk to Sam amc, senior NBA writer for The Athletic who did a one on one with Giannis earlier this week, and we'll get his inside info on that. He is Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Byer. We are broadcasting live from the tirerec dot Com studios tireq dot com. We'll help you get there. An unmetch selection, fast free shipping, free road as a protection and over ten thousand recommended installers, tire ac dot com and the way tire buying should be. Deon Sanders now the highest paid coach in the Big Twelve and one of the top five highest paid coaches in all of college football as he gets a new five year deal worth fifty four million dollars And Aaron, you and I have been talking about it since the news came down. This this may sound crazy, it's not meant to be hot take ish. I actually still think Deon Sanders is underpaid. Dean Sanders is underpaid with a new fifty four million dollar deal that's going to go through twenty twenty nine, for everything that he's done for that school, for that program, for the area around the school, not unlike what Will Wade was selling, what he did with McNeice. I think Dion's done it one hundred times fold in Boulder.

Pas Talk, which old you it's a big d L and Dion got it. Welcome in. It's a Friday talking college football on a college basketball Friday. We'll also be talking NBA, as Moncy just mentioned the Memphis Grizzlies making a change at head coach and the Milwaukee Bucks going to be playing without Damian Lillard for a while. Is that maybe better that he and Giannis are separated at this point? We'll talk to Sam amc, senior NBA writer for The Athletic who did a one on one with Giannis earlier this week, and we'll get his inside info on that. He is Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Byer. We are broadcasting live from the tirerec dot Com studios tireq dot com. We'll help you get there. An unmetch selection, fast free shipping, free road as a protection and over ten thousand recommended installers, tire ac dot com and the way tire buying should be. Deon Sanders now the highest paid coach in the Big Twelve and one of the top five highest paid coaches in all of college football as he gets a new five year deal worth fifty four million dollars And Aaron, you and I have been talking about it since the news came down. This this may sound crazy, it's not meant to be hot take ish. I actually still think Deon Sanders is underpaid. Dean Sanders is underpaid with a new fifty four million dollar deal that's going to go through twenty twenty nine, for everything that he's done for that school, for that program, for the area around the school, not unlike what Will Wade was selling, what he did with McNeice. I think Dion's done it one hundred times fold in Boulder.

So this is one And I don't know if I'm going to torpedo the whole segment here.

So this is one And I don't know if I'm going to torpedo the whole segment here.

All right, you know, bring it on.

All right, you know, bring it on.

You know, I don't want Lebron talking on me. I'm Pat McAfee, so I'm not gonna go too hot on my take care. But no, like the whole reason I bring it up is because I actually see both sides to it. My first reaction was, you know, you certainly give Deanna Ray's nine to three season whatever. But I sat there and said, I am curious what he looks like, cause Shadoor is an excellent prospect. Okay, don't let everybody in the draftnicks for you. Shadoor was unbelievable these past couple of years, and I was thinking. My first initial thought was, let's see what he looks like without what I believe will end up being a top five picket quarterback, if not a first round quarterback.

You know, I don't want Lebron talking on me. I'm Pat McAfee, so I'm not gonna go too hot on my take care. But no, like the whole reason I bring it up is because I actually see both sides to it. My first reaction was, you know, you certainly give Deanna Ray's nine to three season whatever. But I sat there and said, I am curious what he looks like, cause Shadoor is an excellent prospect. Okay, don't let everybody in the draftnicks for you. Shadoor was unbelievable these past couple of years, and I was thinking. My first initial thought was, let's see what he looks like without what I believe will end up being a top five picket quarterback, if not a first round quarterback.

Okay.

Okay.

My counter to that is that the more that I thought about it, the more that I realized exactly what you just said.

My counter to that is that the more that I thought about it, the more that I realized exactly what you just said.

I'm looking right now. I'm trying to find the numbers.

I'm looking right now. I'm trying to find the numbers.

According to USA Today, this is an article that was published this January, the coach prime effect of Sanders hiring help lead the department to one hundred and forty six million in reported revenue thirty one million in ticket sales. And I'm trying to find like what it's meant, as you said, for the broader community. And I think we've seen numbers that reflect that he has created hundreds of millions of dollars of revenue for that community with what he's been able to do. So I might have to pull back and make an addendum to the original take, because at first I was gonna say, yeah, I was looking at the original just football on the field?

According to USA Today, this is an article that was published this January, the coach prime effect of Sanders hiring help lead the department to one hundred and forty six million in reported revenue thirty one million in ticket sales. And I'm trying to find like what it's meant, as you said, for the broader community. And I think we've seen numbers that reflect that he has created hundreds of millions of dollars of revenue for that community with what he's been able to do. So I might have to pull back and make an addendum to the original take, because at first I was gonna say, yeah, I was looking at the original just football on the field?

Is he really a ten million dollar a year guy?

Is he really a ten million dollar a year guy?

But to your point, you know what you put input versus output, and what he has put in what the output has been of his arrival probably is worthy.

But to your point, you know what you put input versus output, and what he has put in what the output has been of his arrival probably is worthy.

This is given to him by the school, and that's why I think the numbers are important. Your stat there boasts my cause gives it a little bit of a boost. Here's another one. The Daily Camera said that in the fall of twenty twenty four, or the fall semester, the University of Colorado received a record setting sixty eight eight thousand applicants. There had never been that number of applicants to the school. You want to dig further in that report from Olivia Doka the Daily Camera, she says the university saw an increase in Black and African American applicants by fifty percent fifty point five percent, an increase the are Hispanic and Latino applicants up twenty five point six percent. American, Indian and Alaskan Native applicants up fifteen percent. Incredible. And so just in those numbers alone of what it means for a university and putting them on the map again is what Dion Sanders did. And then Aaron, if you at least want to look at the football portion of this, because I do think that they are there a combination of both. Here are the coaches that are making ten million dollars a year, which Dion will now be doing. There's not a lot of them. A couple of handfuls ready, Kirby Smart number one, Ryan Day, Dabo Sweeney, Steve Sarkisian Lincoln Riley, Klen de Boor, and Bill Belichick outside of outside of Deon Sanders. By the way, so did Stuart Mandel, And that's whose tweet I was just reading. He had to go back and add Bill Belichick for the reason. However, Kirby Smart national championships. He's got it, Dabbo, He's got a couple of national championships. But I would say, okay, where's Clemson now as opposed to where they were five years ago? I don't know. Ryan Day coming off a national championship, Absolutely everybody else in that group you can pick apart and say, all right, are they really worth it? Is Alabama going to see this huge upswing in applicants because Kaylen de Boorr is there. Maybe North Carolina does with Bill Belichick. I don't know. I don't think that USC necessarily is getting it from Lincoln Riley, since we don't even know if USC wants Lincoln Riley as their head coach. So there's another factor at least of if you want to say that if you're not happy with Deon Sanders getting this amount, well look at the other coaches who are paying for being paid ten million dollars annually. And then you go back to the data that you had. In the data that I had there, they were so far off the map Colorado was that they actually had good seasons erin and I forgot about them like that they were they were. There was a time where they played in a PAC twelve championship game. I think Leviscus Chanalt may have been a member of that Colorado team, But they weren't even even when they were good, we weren't noticing them. And so then you take the first season where it was all hype and hes sportsmen of the Year by Sports Illustrated, and I don't know if you deserved that, but what they did this past year and following up in shoring things up has been magnificent. And Aaron, he's doing things that actually us as fans want in a football team and a head coach. Guess who's playing in bowl games. Guess who wants to play a spring game and do it against other competition. So you may have been critical of Dion Sanders and saying, all right, maybe it's all flash in the first year. What he has done since and what we've seen from year one to year two makes him worth every penny of the fifty four million dollars that he signed up for for the next five years.

This is given to him by the school, and that's why I think the numbers are important. Your stat there boasts my cause gives it a little bit of a boost. Here's another one. The Daily Camera said that in the fall of twenty twenty four, or the fall semester, the University of Colorado received a record setting sixty eight eight thousand applicants. There had never been that number of applicants to the school. You want to dig further in that report from Olivia Doka the Daily Camera, she says the university saw an increase in Black and African American applicants by fifty percent fifty point five percent, an increase the are Hispanic and Latino applicants up twenty five point six percent. American, Indian and Alaskan Native applicants up fifteen percent. Incredible. And so just in those numbers alone of what it means for a university and putting them on the map again is what Dion Sanders did. And then Aaron, if you at least want to look at the football portion of this, because I do think that they are there a combination of both. Here are the coaches that are making ten million dollars a year, which Dion will now be doing. There's not a lot of them. A couple of handfuls ready, Kirby Smart number one, Ryan Day, Dabo Sweeney, Steve Sarkisian Lincoln Riley, Klen de Boor, and Bill Belichick outside of outside of Deon Sanders. By the way, so did Stuart Mandel, And that's whose tweet I was just reading. He had to go back and add Bill Belichick for the reason. However, Kirby Smart national championships. He's got it, Dabbo, He's got a couple of national championships. But I would say, okay, where's Clemson now as opposed to where they were five years ago? I don't know. Ryan Day coming off a national championship, Absolutely everybody else in that group you can pick apart and say, all right, are they really worth it? Is Alabama going to see this huge upswing in applicants because Kaylen de Boorr is there. Maybe North Carolina does with Bill Belichick. I don't know. I don't think that USC necessarily is getting it from Lincoln Riley, since we don't even know if USC wants Lincoln Riley as their head coach. So there's another factor at least of if you want to say that if you're not happy with Deon Sanders getting this amount, well look at the other coaches who are paying for being paid ten million dollars annually. And then you go back to the data that you had. In the data that I had there, they were so far off the map Colorado was that they actually had good seasons erin and I forgot about them like that they were they were. There was a time where they played in a PAC twelve championship game. I think Leviscus Chanalt may have been a member of that Colorado team, But they weren't even even when they were good, we weren't noticing them. And so then you take the first season where it was all hype and hes sportsmen of the Year by Sports Illustrated, and I don't know if you deserved that, but what they did this past year and following up in shoring things up has been magnificent. And Aaron, he's doing things that actually us as fans want in a football team and a head coach. Guess who's playing in bowl games. Guess who wants to play a spring game and do it against other competition. So you may have been critical of Dion Sanders and saying, all right, maybe it's all flash in the first year. What he has done since and what we've seen from year one to year two makes him worth every penny of the fifty four million dollars that he signed up for for the next five years.

Well, I have another thought too, is, first of all, I think when you break down that Lincoln Riley is probably making in the ten million dollar range Kaylin debor is Brian Kelly I believe is right around there as well. I don't know if you mentioned him. I apologize if I miss that. There's another variable too, is that you have to let Dion Sanders know how valued he is because unlike Brian Kelly and unlike Lincoln Riley, there are other people that would happily hire him. Like if one, you know, forget the NFL, stuff's not gonna go away, Shure is gonna go Say let's say he goes to the Giants. Let's say in a year, you know, they fire Brian abel that's gonna be right back there where. I don't think Lincoln Riley is getting NFL offers a year from now. Brian Kelly is certainly not getting offers a year from now, and so one he is.

Well, I have another thought too, is, first of all, I think when you break down that Lincoln Riley is probably making in the ten million dollar range Kaylin debor is Brian Kelly I believe is right around there as well. I don't know if you mentioned him. I apologize if I miss that. There's another variable too, is that you have to let Dion Sanders know how valued he is because unlike Brian Kelly and unlike Lincoln Riley, there are other people that would happily hire him. Like if one, you know, forget the NFL, stuff's not gonna go away, Shure is gonna go Say let's say he goes to the Giants. Let's say in a year, you know, they fire Brian abel that's gonna be right back there where. I don't think Lincoln Riley is getting NFL offers a year from now. Brian Kelly is certainly not getting offers a year from now, and so one he is.

Always gonna And by the way, it's not just the NFL.

Always gonna And by the way, it's not just the NFL.

You look at some of these, you know, maybe middle tier, bottom tier SEC teams.

You look at some of these, you know, maybe middle tier, bottom tier SEC teams.

It's like if.

It's like if.

Whoever, I'm just trying to think of a if you know, Florida State next year, if they were to open, you go on and on down list. I know, Florida's not in the se Florida State's not in the sea.

Whoever, I'm just trying to think of a if you know, Florida State next year, if they were to open, you go on and on down list. I know, Florida's not in the se Florida State's not in the sea.

But here's the other thing he has.

But here's the other thing he has.

We believe, I don't know what his personal finances are, but he has so much money where he doesn't have to do this job and he doesn't have to leave for another job. Where if a year from now, he just felt like, you know, you're kind of taking me for granted, I'm just gonna go be Dion somewhere else. I don't need the Florida State job. I don't need an NFL job. So I'm not saying they only did it to make him feel valued, but you do have to let him know, hey, you are actually really important to what we're doing as an entire university, because he could you know, Lincoln Riley can't just quit coaching football. He's gonna keep coaching. Dion doesn't have to coach football. Dion can go be Dion and still have a very profit life, but you have to let him know that he's valued, and this clearly does as well.

We believe, I don't know what his personal finances are, but he has so much money where he doesn't have to do this job and he doesn't have to leave for another job. Where if a year from now, he just felt like, you know, you're kind of taking me for granted, I'm just gonna go be Dion somewhere else. I don't need the Florida State job. I don't need an NFL job. So I'm not saying they only did it to make him feel valued, but you do have to let him know, hey, you are actually really important to what we're doing as an entire university, because he could you know, Lincoln Riley can't just quit coaching football. He's gonna keep coaching. Dion doesn't have to coach football. Dion can go be Dion and still have a very profit life, but you have to let him know that he's valued, and this clearly does as well.

So the buyout for Dion's contract twelve million dollars in twenty twenty five.

So the buyout for Dion's contract twelve million dollars in twenty twenty five.

And really quick, can I jump in on h that's huge too, because let's say the Giants decide a year from now, well, you know what, Deon's the only you know, we have shdor Dion's the only guy that can solve this. Well, now, all of a sudden, that's twelve million back into the pool the following year that you can then use to hire another coach, add to Nil do what you gotta do. So that is a huge variable as well where if he does leave it, I don't think he's going to now all of a sudden, you got twelve million to mess around, get yourself another good coach again, et cetera, et cetera.

And really quick, can I jump in on h that's huge too, because let's say the Giants decide a year from now, well, you know what, Deon's the only you know, we have shdor Dion's the only guy that can solve this. Well, now, all of a sudden, that's twelve million back into the pool the following year that you can then use to hire another coach, add to Nil do what you gotta do. So that is a huge variable as well where if he does leave it, I don't think he's going to now all of a sudden, you got twelve million to mess around, get yourself another good coach again, et cetera, et cetera.

Ten million dollars in twenty twenty six, six million dollars in twenty twenty seven, and then continues to decrease after that through the twenty twenty nine season. This is the great thing about Dion's tenure. And I actually think that not that he needs Colorado, but it works and it has worked, and I think it would be difficult. I think that he'd be I think he'd be fine. But there was something that is natural and organic, because it felt so unnatural at first, Like it was such a drastic shock to the system to see him stand in front of the play players that were on the team saying like, listen, honestly, most of you aren't going to be here. I bring my own luggage, Yes, Louis, Yes, that absolutely. It was such a shock to your system to see a head coach say that to his players. And he was right. And there was flack that he got for moving players out quickly and bringing in his own players, and that was part of the transition. But the growth from year one to year two, and I mean the success that they had, the program seemed to stabilize. It wasn't the flash that we the hype that we all got caught up in when they didn't make a bowl game in the first first year. All of that subside subsides, and he comes out of it even better as a program solidifies himself. You now have a Heisman Trophy winner. Heck, you know, I mean that's you know, Travis Hunter now up there with the very few Colorado Buffaloes or the late Rashaan Salam Heisman Trophy winner. But you brought that to the school as well. So now you have got that forever in college football. If Dion doesn't go there, Travis Hunter's definitely not there. So there's all of that that comes with it. And so the growth from year one to year two and the success that they've had has been amazing. I think he's the biggest name out of all those coaches that we mentioned. I'm sorry, even with the national championships, as they said, Dabbo and Clemson are maybe on a bit of a slide. We expect Kirby Smart and Georgia to be there. But for as great as Kirby Smart is, and there may not be a better coach in college football, there is the Dion brand and there is something with that. And so when you're talking about the value of the money and everything that you see with it, which goes back to enrollment, which goes back to excitement, Dion is underpaid even when he's getting this race today. I don't know what else there's that I actually roasted.

Ten million dollars in twenty twenty six, six million dollars in twenty twenty seven, and then continues to decrease after that through the twenty twenty nine season. This is the great thing about Dion's tenure. And I actually think that not that he needs Colorado, but it works and it has worked, and I think it would be difficult. I think that he'd be I think he'd be fine. But there was something that is natural and organic, because it felt so unnatural at first, Like it was such a drastic shock to the system to see him stand in front of the play players that were on the team saying like, listen, honestly, most of you aren't going to be here. I bring my own luggage, Yes, Louis, Yes, that absolutely. It was such a shock to your system to see a head coach say that to his players. And he was right. And there was flack that he got for moving players out quickly and bringing in his own players, and that was part of the transition. But the growth from year one to year two, and I mean the success that they had, the program seemed to stabilize. It wasn't the flash that we the hype that we all got caught up in when they didn't make a bowl game in the first first year. All of that subside subsides, and he comes out of it even better as a program solidifies himself. You now have a Heisman Trophy winner. Heck, you know, I mean that's you know, Travis Hunter now up there with the very few Colorado Buffaloes or the late Rashaan Salam Heisman Trophy winner. But you brought that to the school as well. So now you have got that forever in college football. If Dion doesn't go there, Travis Hunter's definitely not there. So there's all of that that comes with it. And so the growth from year one to year two and the success that they've had has been amazing. I think he's the biggest name out of all those coaches that we mentioned. I'm sorry, even with the national championships, as they said, Dabbo and Clemson are maybe on a bit of a slide. We expect Kirby Smart and Georgia to be there. But for as great as Kirby Smart is, and there may not be a better coach in college football, there is the Dion brand and there is something with that. And so when you're talking about the value of the money and everything that you see with it, which goes back to enrollment, which goes back to excitement, Dion is underpaid even when he's getting this race today. I don't know what else there's that I actually roasted.

No, dude, you've talked me into it, because, like I said, I was looking at it from a football perspective of you know, top I assume top three, top four highest paid coaches in college football. Uh, you know, coming off a very nice season, but also a season in which you're going to lose the two marquee players that led you there. But when Lincoln Rally's making ten million dollars, it's hard to argue that that Dion should be making a penny lesson?

No, dude, you've talked me into it, because, like I said, I was looking at it from a football perspective of you know, top I assume top three, top four highest paid coaches in college football. Uh, you know, coming off a very nice season, but also a season in which you're going to lose the two marquee players that led you there. But when Lincoln Rally's making ten million dollars, it's hard to argue that that Dion should be making a penny lesson?

Can I publicly read your text that you send the group text? So this is this is how we've swayed Aaron Torres, how you give yourself some credit. I also think the Dion extension is fascinating. I would have personally waited until I saw him without the top five pick ack quarterback before it gave him ten million year.

Can I publicly read your text that you send the group text? So this is this is how we've swayed Aaron Torres, how you give yourself some credit. I also think the Dion extension is fascinating. I would have personally waited until I saw him without the top five pick ack quarterback before it gave him ten million year.

Well, and what see, that's the key part, though I'm not saying no when I said that, and I still sort of stand by it. I did, and this was two minutes after the race came out, So let's make that clear.

Well, and what see, that's the key part, though I'm not saying no when I said that, and I still sort of stand by it. I did, and this was two minutes after the race came out, So let's make that clear.

Sure, And you also finished it with but what do I know? See, yeah, I was already talked myself out of it.

Sure, And you also finished it with but what do I know? See, yeah, I was already talked myself out of it.

No, what I would say is I would have given him a raise because I think he was actually like I think he was actually one of the more lower paid coaches in basically Power conference football last year. So I would have said, it's crazy to say, but the going rate for a coach is like six and a half seven million, That's where I would have gotten him. But when you laid out Lincoln Riley's making ten Caylen de boor who I think is going to work at Alabama, But you can't tell me that Calen and Bore was better at Alabama than Deon Sanders was at Colorado last year, even though I know that they had an identical regular season record, identical record overall. I'm sorry when you contextualize it with Calen de Boor's an eight figure year guy. Lincoln Riley is Brian Kelly's right around that stretch. Deon deserves every penny that those guys are getting, so.

No, what I would say is I would have given him a raise because I think he was actually like I think he was actually one of the more lower paid coaches in basically Power conference football last year. So I would have said, it's crazy to say, but the going rate for a coach is like six and a half seven million, That's where I would have gotten him. But when you laid out Lincoln Riley's making ten Caylen de boor who I think is going to work at Alabama, But you can't tell me that Calen and Bore was better at Alabama than Deon Sanders was at Colorado last year, even though I know that they had an identical regular season record, identical record overall. I'm sorry when you contextualize it with Calen de Boor's an eight figure year guy. Lincoln Riley is Brian Kelly's right around that stretch. Deon deserves every penny that those guys are getting, so.

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Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio Memphis Grizzlies making a coaching change today, He's here and Torres, I'm Dan Byer, will try to get the low down on what exactly is going on with the Grizzlies, who are tied with the Lakers right now in the four spot in the West. Sam Amic of the Athletic will join us in just a little bit. NCAA tournament rolls on with the Sweet sixteen tonight. I think there's gonna be some dogs. Barkin, as SVP likes to say, looking at the DraftKings sportsbook app and just standing out like a red thumb. And it may be because their uniform is red, but the Ole Miss Rebels are a three and a half point dog tonight to Michigan State. I told you, Aaron, I've liked Ole Miss. I know you follow the SEC maybe more closely than any of the other leagues around. It's great basketball fourteen schools in the tournament, but tonight they're an underdog, and I love Ole Miss against Michigan State. In some upsets brewing here on a Friday.

Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio Memphis Grizzlies making a coaching change today, He's here and Torres, I'm Dan Byer, will try to get the low down on what exactly is going on with the Grizzlies, who are tied with the Lakers right now in the four spot in the West. Sam Amic of the Athletic will join us in just a little bit. NCAA tournament rolls on with the Sweet sixteen tonight. I think there's gonna be some dogs. Barkin, as SVP likes to say, looking at the DraftKings sportsbook app and just standing out like a red thumb. And it may be because their uniform is red, but the Ole Miss Rebels are a three and a half point dog tonight to Michigan State. I told you, Aaron, I've liked Ole Miss. I know you follow the SEC maybe more closely than any of the other leagues around. It's great basketball fourteen schools in the tournament, but tonight they're an underdog, and I love Ole Miss against Michigan State. In some upsets brewing here on a Friday.

Yeah, I would say my favorite play is Houston. But if we're talking dogs, let's go with the Cats. Well I was gonna go with the Cats. I mean, listen, they say it's impossible to beat a team three times at a season. Don't tell Kentucky that four and a half point underdog. Thing with Tennessee is they are so reliant on Chas Lanier, their star transfer from North Florida. Going off, well, Kentucky has maybe the best defensive guarden college basketball Lamont Butler. Again, they say, yeah, you can't beat a team three times. I don't think that's the case. Kentucky plus four and a half in the DraftKings.

Yeah, I would say my favorite play is Houston. But if we're talking dogs, let's go with the Cats. Well I was gonna go with the Cats. I mean, listen, they say it's impossible to beat a team three times at a season. Don't tell Kentucky that four and a half point underdog. Thing with Tennessee is they are so reliant on Chas Lanier, their star transfer from North Florida. Going off, well, Kentucky has maybe the best defensive guarden college basketball Lamont Butler. Again, they say, yeah, you can't beat a team three times. I don't think that's the case. Kentucky plus four and a half in the DraftKings.

Sports, that's your upset Cats and dogs working a lot better than ReBs in dogs. But I like Old Miss tonight as they are the underdog to Michigan State. Back to you guys, I'll quick say with this, because the Rays in their stadium situation, playing their home is the Yankee Spring Training Complex, they're what uniforms look crisp in the sunlight. You never get to see them because yeah, they look really, really shocked. Memphis Grizzlies have not been sharp. They are the headline of the NBA today. Joining us now senior writer covering the association from the athletic Sam Amic joined just I wanted Sam on from his great interview that he had with Johannis and Teddy Kumpo and getting an inside look at the Bucks. But Sam, welcome in. Let's start in Memphis. How much was a shock or how much was this a shock to you knowing that Taylor Jenkins is now out with less than a month ago in the regular season.

Sports, that's your upset Cats and dogs working a lot better than ReBs in dogs. But I like Old Miss tonight as they are the underdog to Michigan State. Back to you guys, I'll quick say with this, because the Rays in their stadium situation, playing their home is the Yankee Spring Training Complex, they're what uniforms look crisp in the sunlight. You never get to see them because yeah, they look really, really shocked. Memphis Grizzlies have not been sharp. They are the headline of the NBA today. Joining us now senior writer covering the association from the athletic Sam Amic joined just I wanted Sam on from his great interview that he had with Johannis and Teddy Kumpo and getting an inside look at the Bucks. But Sam, welcome in. Let's start in Memphis. How much was a shock or how much was this a shock to you knowing that Taylor Jenkins is now out with less than a month ago in the regular season.

No, I appreciate you guys having me certainly surprising, although to be honest, it's one of those, I hate to admit it, media wise stories where you kind of get reminded that you know, certain small market teams that were not monitoring quite as closely all the time. You know, things and situations kind of sneak.

No, I appreciate you guys having me certainly surprising, although to be honest, it's one of those, I hate to admit it, media wise stories where you kind of get reminded that you know, certain small market teams that were not monitoring quite as closely all the time. You know, things and situations kind of sneak.

Up on you.

Up on you.

If that makes sense. You know, the more people I've talked to today about that situation and tried to get some understanding, you know, the more you start to put the puzzle pieces together. You know, they've been struggling a lot, really since early February after having a hot start. You know, they were thirty five and sixteen at one point and second place in the West, and they've dealt with John Morant injuries and Jaron Jackson junior, and you know, some lackluster play. So it's a little bit less stunning than it was to me two and a half hours ago, but still a pretty big surprise.

If that makes sense. You know, the more people I've talked to today about that situation and tried to get some understanding, you know, the more you start to put the puzzle pieces together. You know, they've been struggling a lot, really since early February after having a hot start. You know, they were thirty five and sixteen at one point and second place in the West, and they've dealt with John Morant injuries and Jaron Jackson junior, and you know, some lackluster play. So it's a little bit less stunning than it was to me two and a half hours ago, but still a pretty big surprise.

You know.

You know.

I want to just bring up the comparison. I'm a Brewers fan, and I remember in eight they were fading down the stretch. They hadn't been to the playoffs since nineteen eighty two, and they fired Ned Yost their manager and promoted Dale Swain to basically save the season. Is there any saving going on in Memphis? I mean, is there you know, a question about John Morant and in his future? Could that have played a role in any of this happening today?

I want to just bring up the comparison. I'm a Brewers fan, and I remember in eight they were fading down the stretch. They hadn't been to the playoffs since nineteen eighty two, and they fired Ned Yost their manager and promoted Dale Swain to basically save the season. Is there any saving going on in Memphis? I mean, is there you know, a question about John Morant and in his future? Could that have played a role in any of this happening today?

Still trying to get clarity, but I just don't think it's good to have any young star uncomfortable. Now, Jazz situation is unique, right because a lot of his stuff the past couple of years has been you know, self inflicted wounds from a pr standpoint, and you know, the suspensions basketball wise, you know, not only hurt him, but hurt his team. But now you know he's back. He's one of the best players in the league, an elite, you know, all star.

Still trying to get clarity, but I just don't think it's good to have any young star uncomfortable. Now, Jazz situation is unique, right because a lot of his stuff the past couple of years has been you know, self inflicted wounds from a pr standpoint, and you know, the suspensions basketball wise, you know, not only hurt him, but hurt his team. But now you know he's back. He's one of the best players in the league, an elite, you know, all star.

Level guy, and the program around him is not really functioning all that well, and the culture doesn't seem to be vibrant, certainly, not in the kind of way.

Level guy, and the program around him is not really functioning all that well, and the culture doesn't seem to be vibrant, certainly, not in the kind of way.

That it was a few years ago when they were an up and coming team in the West. So with all that in mind, I do think it's a fair comparison, you know, with like loose framing, to to put it up there with Giannis and you know, players like that is you know, you want them to be comfortable. You want them to understand the vision going forward and feel like the runway is long and right now you know clearly whatever that is you were talking, six weeks of going in the wrong direction was enough for the organization to try to make a big move here.

That it was a few years ago when they were an up and coming team in the West. So with all that in mind, I do think it's a fair comparison, you know, with like loose framing, to to put it up there with Giannis and you know, players like that is you know, you want them to be comfortable. You want them to understand the vision going forward and feel like the runway is long and right now you know clearly whatever that is you were talking, six weeks of going in the wrong direction was enough for the organization to try to make a big move here.

Yeah, I'm going to kind of piggyback with kind of the opposite perspective. I mean, you know, John Morant is twenty five, will be twenty six later this year, coming off a knee injury. It feels as though they're basically just giving away a season when he's very much in his prime. I mean, you said, you're less surprised as the day goes on, and maybe the culture behind the scenes wasn't as good, but I mean, are you is the organization basically? I know, Dan just asked if they were trying to save the season. It feels to me more like that they're punting on the season, which is a weird thing to do with the fifth seed in the Western Conference finals right now.

Yeah, I'm going to kind of piggyback with kind of the opposite perspective. I mean, you know, John Morant is twenty five, will be twenty six later this year, coming off a knee injury. It feels as though they're basically just giving away a season when he's very much in his prime. I mean, you said, you're less surprised as the day goes on, and maybe the culture behind the scenes wasn't as good, but I mean, are you is the organization basically? I know, Dan just asked if they were trying to save the season. It feels to me more like that they're punting on the season, which is a weird thing to do with the fifth seed in the Western Conference finals right now.

So I think to answer that, you know, and I'm still again learning, you have got to get as much kind of context as possible on the new coach, because you know, he came from Europe, had a lot of success with basketball Paris, and as a guy that at Grizzly's GM Zach Kleiman certainly hired last summer when they had a bit of a bizarre complete swapping out or nearly complete swapping out of the assistant coaching staff, which honestly was you know, probably a pretty big tell of where I thinks you're at with Taylor and so I as we sit here chatting on the radio today, I would lean towards trying to save the season. You know, there's on court evidence that, you know, whatever the reason is that, you know, the players were not giving the kind of effort that the organization was expecting or hoping for. There's a little bit of acrimony. We saw the clip of Desmond Vain and Safiel Dama getting into it recently during your game against the Jazz. You know that doesn't reflect you know, competition is good and so it's not like that's the end of the world, but you know, teammates both shoving each other in the middle of a game is not ideal, So it does you know. I thinking we're getting right now is that they're trying to save the season and make some noise in the playoffs.

So I think to answer that, you know, and I'm still again learning, you have got to get as much kind of context as possible on the new coach, because you know, he came from Europe, had a lot of success with basketball Paris, and as a guy that at Grizzly's GM Zach Kleiman certainly hired last summer when they had a bit of a bizarre complete swapping out or nearly complete swapping out of the assistant coaching staff, which honestly was you know, probably a pretty big tell of where I thinks you're at with Taylor and so I as we sit here chatting on the radio today, I would lean towards trying to save the season. You know, there's on court evidence that, you know, whatever the reason is that, you know, the players were not giving the kind of effort that the organization was expecting or hoping for. There's a little bit of acrimony. We saw the clip of Desmond Vain and Safiel Dama getting into it recently during your game against the Jazz. You know that doesn't reflect you know, competition is good and so it's not like that's the end of the world, but you know, teammates both shoving each other in the middle of a game is not ideal, So it does you know. I thinking we're getting right now is that they're trying to save the season and make some noise in the playoffs.

Sam A mc joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. He's here and Torres, I'm Dan Byer in for Doug Gottlieb. I read your piece. You're one on one with Giannis and Tete Kumpo. In fact, I quote tweeted, quote exed whatever your your tweet on it with the excerpt from the interview that I thought was so telling, and I feel that it's known in most circles the relationship that Damian Lillard has with NBA insider Chris Haynes. But you asked him the question of what about this three person meeting that happened with Doc Giannis and Dame after their Golden State game, I believe is when it happened Sam, And his response was who goes and tells people this? To me, that showed quite the divide when Yanna says that what is going through your mind? And did you kind of know that was going to be the answer when he asked the question take me through that process?

Sam A mc joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. He's here and Torres, I'm Dan Byer in for Doug Gottlieb. I read your piece. You're one on one with Giannis and Tete Kumpo. In fact, I quote tweeted, quote exed whatever your your tweet on it with the excerpt from the interview that I thought was so telling, and I feel that it's known in most circles the relationship that Damian Lillard has with NBA insider Chris Haynes. But you asked him the question of what about this three person meeting that happened with Doc Giannis and Dame after their Golden State game, I believe is when it happened Sam, And his response was who goes and tells people this? To me, that showed quite the divide when Yanna says that what is going through your mind? And did you kind of know that was going to be the answer when he asked the question take me through that process?

Yeah, I mean, admittedly, I'm big on I'm certainly not ever going to get into another media member's stuff, and so I was trying to delicately unpack that reporting and expand on it without you know.

Yeah, I mean, admittedly, I'm big on I'm certainly not ever going to get into another media member's stuff, and so I was trying to delicately unpack that reporting and expand on it without you know.

Going down the road that Yannis started going down. So admittedly I just kind of laughed and shrugged, and it was like, I'm not trying to unpack your locker room here, and but you know, yeah that relationships well know, and I'm not going to speak to how the story came out, but I don't know if it's a divide I think at minimum, because I do genuinely think they get along really well, those two guys. And the one thing I do think Giannis has had to get used to and probably doesn't love, is that, you know, like Dame just generally speaking, is a pretty out there guy media wise, and an open guy. I mean, Giannis is open as well, but you know Dame is even more so. And he's Dame's real revealing and will take you behind the curtain I think even more than the honest does at times. All of which is to say that since you know, when when Giannis had the team without Dame, he took a lot of pride in like stuff, never getting out, like it was his locker room, and that was just kind of how things ran. Now you know he got another guy who's also on the NBA's top seventy five all time list. You know, you kind of just got to adjust, I think. But that was a funny moment. I was admittedly trying to shut it down real quick because I didn't really want to investigate that question.

Going down the road that Yannis started going down. So admittedly I just kind of laughed and shrugged, and it was like, I'm not trying to unpack your locker room here, and but you know, yeah that relationships well know, and I'm not going to speak to how the story came out, but I don't know if it's a divide I think at minimum, because I do genuinely think they get along really well, those two guys. And the one thing I do think Giannis has had to get used to and probably doesn't love, is that, you know, like Dame just generally speaking, is a pretty out there guy media wise, and an open guy. I mean, Giannis is open as well, but you know Dame is even more so. And he's Dame's real revealing and will take you behind the curtain I think even more than the honest does at times. All of which is to say that since you know, when when Giannis had the team without Dame, he took a lot of pride in like stuff, never getting out, like it was his locker room, and that was just kind of how things ran. Now you know he got another guy who's also on the NBA's top seventy five all time list. You know, you kind of just got to adjust, I think. But that was a funny moment. I was admittedly trying to shut it down real quick because I didn't really want to investigate that question.

Yeah, but it wasn't It doesn't seem like it was a flippant, like he doesn't say, who goes and tells this? Like it was almost unprompted, like you didn't even ask him a question. Giannis offered that up himself, and I know it's different when you're when you're reading it as opposed to hearing him from it. But when I read it, I did not take it as like a flipp it, lighthearted of who goes and tells people this? It felt pretty serious.

Yeah, but it wasn't It doesn't seem like it was a flippant, like he doesn't say, who goes and tells this? Like it was almost unprompted, like you didn't even ask him a question. Giannis offered that up himself, and I know it's different when you're when you're reading it as opposed to hearing him from it. But when I read it, I did not take it as like a flipp it, lighthearted of who goes and tells people this? It felt pretty serious.

I'd say it was. It was a hybrid. I mean, your point, the written word can obviously be tricky. It was not totally flippant. It was like, you know, this is a bad way of putting it, but when you ask your kid to do something five times and they keep doing it, like you know, yeah, it was like an annoyance, you know what I mean. And then admittedly I kind of pushed him like all right, keep it moving, like we're not doing that, you know, but we were. That was in Sacramento when we had the conversation, and you know, to give you more detail on the scene, I guess, you know, he kind of when he asked the question, he kind of sat up in his chair a little bit and glanced at the rest of the locker room, like who the hell is telling people this, So I mean that's fair. I mean, he obviously wishes that that didn't get out. And I think also because while he didn't fully share all the details of the meeting, it's obvious and he did share that, you know, Doc telling both those guys that got to be better leaders was part of the meeting. And so I think Giannis will probably appreciate, you know, his leadership being questioned to some extent, would would probably prefer that that stay behind the scenes.

I'd say it was. It was a hybrid. I mean, your point, the written word can obviously be tricky. It was not totally flippant. It was like, you know, this is a bad way of putting it, but when you ask your kid to do something five times and they keep doing it, like you know, yeah, it was like an annoyance, you know what I mean. And then admittedly I kind of pushed him like all right, keep it moving, like we're not doing that, you know, but we were. That was in Sacramento when we had the conversation, and you know, to give you more detail on the scene, I guess, you know, he kind of when he asked the question, he kind of sat up in his chair a little bit and glanced at the rest of the locker room, like who the hell is telling people this, So I mean that's fair. I mean, he obviously wishes that that didn't get out. And I think also because while he didn't fully share all the details of the meeting, it's obvious and he did share that, you know, Doc telling both those guys that got to be better leaders was part of the meeting. And so I think Giannis will probably appreciate, you know, his leadership being questioned to some extent, would would probably prefer that that stay behind the scenes.

So one one thing that certainly got out this week was Lebron's opinions on literally everything during that Pat McAfee interview. Let me ask you this, what, in your opinion was the reason behind that. Was it Lebron trying to make himself more relatable. Did he have stuff to get off his chest about Steven A, Did he have stuff to get his off his chest about MJ. I just I know he was in Indie, but the it just was just a strange situation to me.

So one one thing that certainly got out this week was Lebron's opinions on literally everything during that Pat McAfee interview. Let me ask you this, what, in your opinion was the reason behind that. Was it Lebron trying to make himself more relatable. Did he have stuff to get off his chest about Steven A, Did he have stuff to get his off his chest about MJ. I just I know he was in Indie, but the it just was just a strange situation to me.

I'd be curious for your perspective.

I'd be curious for your perspective.

No, I mean it very strange. You know, my own speculation because I have not had anybody tell me implicitly why he did it. You know, you already mentioned the logistics that the team was in Indiana, and that's whe McAfee is okay, fine. I thought it was humorous that so much of the conversation became about Michael Jordan and then they just so happened to be headed to Chicago next on the map, you know, and you know that those optics and coincidence were fascinating, you know, going on the same network where he's beefing with a prominent member of ESPN or the most prominent member of ESPN, and going on a show that is kind of you know, as far as like Lebron trolling. You know, you're going on the most competitive show on that network, you know, when put up against you know, Steven A's show, So that I don't think was a coincidence. I was fine with most of it. I mean, like a lot of other people, I found the the stray that Brian Windhorst took to be just to be you know, distasteful and unnecessary. Brian, if anything is I mean, he's not only done a great job covering the League and Lebron, and I'm not just a friend who's taking up for him. But I've always respected the fact that he's not cow towing and begging for one on one interviews and he's just chronicling. He's just being a journalist. And you know, I think Michelle Beadle was the one who kind of characterized it as bullying, and it did have that feeling to it, like Lebron was just making fun of a guy who's just tried to tell his story for twenty plus years. So but other than that, it was it was a wild interview for sure.

No, I mean it very strange. You know, my own speculation because I have not had anybody tell me implicitly why he did it. You know, you already mentioned the logistics that the team was in Indiana, and that's whe McAfee is okay, fine. I thought it was humorous that so much of the conversation became about Michael Jordan and then they just so happened to be headed to Chicago next on the map, you know, and you know that those optics and coincidence were fascinating, you know, going on the same network where he's beefing with a prominent member of ESPN or the most prominent member of ESPN, and going on a show that is kind of you know, as far as like Lebron trolling. You know, you're going on the most competitive show on that network, you know, when put up against you know, Steven A's show, So that I don't think was a coincidence. I was fine with most of it. I mean, like a lot of other people, I found the the stray that Brian Windhorst took to be just to be you know, distasteful and unnecessary. Brian, if anything is I mean, he's not only done a great job covering the League and Lebron, and I'm not just a friend who's taking up for him. But I've always respected the fact that he's not cow towing and begging for one on one interviews and he's just chronicling. He's just being a journalist. And you know, I think Michelle Beadle was the one who kind of characterized it as bullying, and it did have that feeling to it, like Lebron was just making fun of a guy who's just tried to tell his story for twenty plus years. So but other than that, it was it was a wild interview for sure.

Yeah, for somebody who isn't necessarily going around doing interviews everywhere to sit down and have the whole deal, it all just yeah, it all seems a bit contrived, but hey, it seems to be one of the most top talked about topics that we've had throughout this this NBA season, while we completely ignore the greatness of the thunder and what the Cavaliers are doing in the playoffs coming up. Sam, we appreciate the time, enjoy the weekend, enjoy the stretch run. It would love to talk to you during that postseason. Thanks so much.

Yeah, for somebody who isn't necessarily going around doing interviews everywhere to sit down and have the whole deal, it all just yeah, it all seems a bit contrived, but hey, it seems to be one of the most top talked about topics that we've had throughout this this NBA season, while we completely ignore the greatness of the thunder and what the Cavaliers are doing in the playoffs coming up. Sam, we appreciate the time, enjoy the weekend, enjoy the stretch run. It would love to talk to you during that postseason. Thanks so much.

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Try to do my part perfect great Thanks so much. Thanks to talk to you good Sam Amic joining us here, NBA writer for The Athletic. Yeah, the Buck stuff, you know, had me perked up earlier in the week, and I'm glad we were able to get Sam on. But this Grizzly stuff and Lebron, like, the story's truly it's been. It's it's funny because the Luca trade obviously Trump's all, but Lebron v. Stephen A is a top three story we've gotten the NBA this.

Try to do my part perfect great Thanks so much. Thanks to talk to you good Sam Amic joining us here, NBA writer for The Athletic. Yeah, the Buck stuff, you know, had me perked up earlier in the week, and I'm glad we were able to get Sam on. But this Grizzly stuff and Lebron, like, the story's truly it's been. It's it's funny because the Luca trade obviously Trump's all, but Lebron v. Stephen A is a top three story we've gotten the NBA this.

Season, no doubt. It's so weird. By the way, the Grizzly stuff is still weird to me. And I understand the way the way you framed your question, the way he explained it. You know what it made me think of. I'll put a little college hoops twist on it with the tournament, but by US coach, they've talked about it. A lot came from the NBA, and I think a lot of people were surprised he was in line to get an NBA head coaching job. And I think he likes that there's a little bit more security in college, you know, a little bit less time on the road, more time at home with your family, and like, to me, that's the Memphis situation is just like a metaphor for unless you're Steve Kerr, Greg Popovich. I mean, how many guys make it out alive. I mean, we were rare about Taylor Jenkins and everything that he was doing, and now boom, you know, however long ago we're doing that.

Season, no doubt. It's so weird. By the way, the Grizzly stuff is still weird to me. And I understand the way the way you framed your question, the way he explained it. You know what it made me think of. I'll put a little college hoops twist on it with the tournament, but by US coach, they've talked about it. A lot came from the NBA, and I think a lot of people were surprised he was in line to get an NBA head coaching job. And I think he likes that there's a little bit more security in college, you know, a little bit less time on the road, more time at home with your family, and like, to me, that's the Memphis situation is just like a metaphor for unless you're Steve Kerr, Greg Popovich. I mean, how many guys make it out alive. I mean, we were rare about Taylor Jenkins and everything that he was doing, and now boom, you know, however long ago we're doing that.

He's just he's out of a job. So again, tied with the Lakers for the four spots right now in the West.

He's just he's out of a job. So again, tied with the Lakers for the four spots right now in the West.

I I and Sam is great at what he does. Is by no means of criticism, but the whole if your if your star is unhappy, then you would edited.

I I and Sam is great at what he does. Is by no means of criticism, but the whole if your if your star is unhappy, then you would edited.

I don't know, just he's great at what he does.

I don't know, just he's great at what he does.

I'm not criticizing Sam, but it was like, I don't know, I think Taylor Jenkins is pretty good at what he does too.

I'm not criticizing Sam, but it was like, I don't know, I think Taylor Jenkins is pretty good at what he does too.

You know, you're yeah, but in the NBA you side with the playoffs. What I mean, it's the truth.

You know, you're yeah, but in the NBA you side with the playoffs. What I mean, it's the truth.

I think the other thing too real quick, he referenced the Bucks and Adrian Griffin. You know, Giannis, this happened with you. That was in like November or December, though not five, you know, three weeks before the playoffs.

I think the other thing too real quick, he referenced the Bucks and Adrian Griffin. You know, Giannis, this happened with you. That was in like November or December, though not five, you know, three weeks before the playoffs.

Sure, and also and let's be real, and Sam said out at the beginning. These NBA guys who cover the sport are covering thirty teams and there are other teams that take up way more air in the room. And Sam even said it, he said, listen, it's one of those things where maybe we're not locked in as much about Memphis. And we peppered him with three questions about the Eosleys and news that you know, broke within the last three hours, so he's trying to get his But this this does happen, you know, and when you're when you're probably doing pieces with Giannis and getting one on ones and now dealing with Lebron and other stuff. And Adam Silver had a huge big day. It does sometimes sometimes you know you're not you don't have the intel on all thirty teams or thirty two teams in the NFL or thirty in Major League Baseball. So he's eron Torres, I'm Dan Byer.

Sure, and also and let's be real, and Sam said out at the beginning. These NBA guys who cover the sport are covering thirty teams and there are other teams that take up way more air in the room. And Sam even said it, he said, listen, it's one of those things where maybe we're not locked in as much about Memphis. And we peppered him with three questions about the Eosleys and news that you know, broke within the last three hours, so he's trying to get his But this this does happen, you know, and when you're when you're probably doing pieces with Giannis and getting one on ones and now dealing with Lebron and other stuff. And Adam Silver had a huge big day. It does sometimes sometimes you know you're not you don't have the intel on all thirty teams or thirty two teams in the NFL or thirty in Major League Baseball. So he's eron Torres, I'm Dan Byer.

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App Doug Gottlieb Show at Fox Sports Radio. He's eron Torres, I'm Dan Bayer sitting in for Doug today who is in for the Herd and Colin Cowherd Sweet sixteen Friday will take a look at the games tonight. But first I gotta tell you that you're listening to us right now? You are you listen into us right now? Maybe cruising around in your car, Maybe you're out getting an early start on some yard work as the days lasted a little longer. But did you know that you can actually see us? Aaron Torres, do you know that? Yeah? I sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows. Be sure to subscribe so you always have instant access to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Okay, easy as it can be. Earlier today, well, prior to Doug being on The Herd and Patrick was on Fox Sports Radio, Charles Barkley was a guest. And you're gonna hear something very interesting. It's a segment we like to call And now Charles Barkley weighing in, not on the tournament, not on the NBA playoffs, but on Lebron versus steven a Lebron.

App Doug Gottlieb Show at Fox Sports Radio. He's eron Torres, I'm Dan Bayer sitting in for Doug today who is in for the Herd and Colin Cowherd Sweet sixteen Friday will take a look at the games tonight. But first I gotta tell you that you're listening to us right now? You are you listen into us right now? Maybe cruising around in your car, Maybe you're out getting an early start on some yard work as the days lasted a little longer. But did you know that you can actually see us? Aaron Torres, do you know that? Yeah? I sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows. Be sure to subscribe so you always have instant access to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Okay, easy as it can be. Earlier today, well, prior to Doug being on The Herd and Patrick was on Fox Sports Radio, Charles Barkley was a guest. And you're gonna hear something very interesting. It's a segment we like to call And now Charles Barkley weighing in, not on the tournament, not on the NBA playoffs, but on Lebron versus steven a Lebron.

He's too big to be that type of bully, the bullet steven A and to bully Brian Windhorse. Brian Woodhorst is a sweet person man. He's just trying to do his thing. And I've always liked Lebron, but him being a bully it turned me off.

He's too big to be that type of bully, the bullet steven A and to bully Brian Windhorse. Brian Woodhorst is a sweet person man. He's just trying to do his thing. And I've always liked Lebron, but him being a bully it turned me off.

Dan.

Dan.

But I will say that steven A, the way he reacted was so lame and weak. Lebron, like I say, I blame him for starting a bullying going on past show, just bullying people. But the way stephen A reacted going on Gibbet's podcast, talking tough and come on, man, you're better than that. So there's only there's only losers in this scenario.

But I will say that steven A, the way he reacted was so lame and weak. Lebron, like I say, I blame him for starting a bullying going on past show, just bullying people. But the way stephen A reacted going on Gibbet's podcast, talking tough and come on, man, you're better than that. So there's only there's only losers in this scenario.

I don't know if he is colleague Lebron and steven A being losers for how this is going on. I do find an interesting on the world is uniting behind Brian Windhorse. Yes, because he also he took Luca to task during the NBA Finals last year, and when Luca got dealt, people like remember what Windwards said during the NBA Finals That could have been a bit a precursor. I do agree with Charles on the aspect of what steven A should have said. I didn't like the Lebron McAfee place because, and I said it on Doug Show earlier this week, it's a safe place. He's not going to get any pushback. They're excited that he's on, just like when Aaron Rodgers is on every single week and McAfee's gone out and said, Aaron Rodgers has made millions of dollars for this show, and so that's why we pay him what we pay him. So now you have an opportunity to have Lebron come in studio and sit down, there is zero chance there would be any pushback on any of the questions. So it was Lebron basically being able to say what he wants without any anybody calling interference in doing it to a very very big audience that at times can be easily influenced.

I don't know if he is colleague Lebron and steven A being losers for how this is going on. I do find an interesting on the world is uniting behind Brian Windhorse. Yes, because he also he took Luca to task during the NBA Finals last year, and when Luca got dealt, people like remember what Windwards said during the NBA Finals That could have been a bit a precursor. I do agree with Charles on the aspect of what steven A should have said. I didn't like the Lebron McAfee place because, and I said it on Doug Show earlier this week, it's a safe place. He's not going to get any pushback. They're excited that he's on, just like when Aaron Rodgers is on every single week and McAfee's gone out and said, Aaron Rodgers has made millions of dollars for this show, and so that's why we pay him what we pay him. So now you have an opportunity to have Lebron come in studio and sit down, there is zero chance there would be any pushback on any of the questions. So it was Lebron basically being able to say what he wants without any anybody calling interference in doing it to a very very big audience that at times can be easily influenced.

I thought everything Charles Barkley said I think was on point. First of all. First of all, the windhorse thing I agree with Sam Amicon. I agree with Barkley on is that I've never gotten the impression that Brian Winhorst wants to be Lebron's best friend. You know, listen, is there happenstance that he happened to know Lebron when he was fifteen sixteen years old and covered him and it led to the NBA job that he has now.

I thought everything Charles Barkley said I think was on point. First of all. First of all, the windhorse thing I agree with Sam Amicon. I agree with Barkley on is that I've never gotten the impression that Brian Winhorst wants to be Lebron's best friend. You know, listen, is there happenstance that he happened to know Lebron when he was fifteen sixteen years old and covered him and it led to the NBA job that he has now.

Sure, but a lot of.

Sure, but a lot of.

People start out covering this guy and go to that job and they end up wherever. But it just felt like an unnecessary dig and unnecessary cheap shot at Brian Windhors. Then, as far as the steven A Smith thing is concerned, I haven't loved how steven A has handled things, But at its core, I think he's right. He is allowed to criticize Bronni the player, and I think that's kind of getting lost in all this is there's so much back and forth with steven A. Why was Lebron at Pat McAfee. The core of this is that media members are criticizing Bronni the player, and at the core of this, Lebron is wrong. I'm sorry. Again, that's got a little bit lost in the shuffle, and it probably shouldn't be.

People start out covering this guy and go to that job and they end up wherever. But it just felt like an unnecessary dig and unnecessary cheap shot at Brian Windhors. Then, as far as the steven A Smith thing is concerned, I haven't loved how steven A has handled things, But at its core, I think he's right. He is allowed to criticize Bronni the player, and I think that's kind of getting lost in all this is there's so much back and forth with steven A. Why was Lebron at Pat McAfee. The core of this is that media members are criticizing Bronni the player, and at the core of this, Lebron is wrong. I'm sorry. Again, that's got a little bit lost in the shuffle, and it probably shouldn't be.

Lebron did say that he understands that it comes to territory and if you're in the league, you're gonna get criticized, but he felt that steven A's comments about Brownie and the family and you know.

Lebron did say that he understands that it comes to territory and if you're in the league, you're gonna get criticized, but he felt that steven A's comments about Brownie and the family and you know.

Some steven A was also the guy on the draft coverage last year that was like, don't you dare talk about nepotism here, like steven As has whatever the message was that was delivered to him by Clutch around draft time, steven A executed that message. Now, once you once you get in the games and people could see you're not really an NBA player, that's a different conversation.

Some steven A was also the guy on the draft coverage last year that was like, don't you dare talk about nepotism here, like steven As has whatever the message was that was delivered to him by Clutch around draft time, steven A executed that message. Now, once you once you get in the games and people could see you're not really an NBA player, that's a different conversation.

I'm gonna cush you off. You get back ended, Sammy, what I'd say, that's because we have ninety seconds to talk about the four tournament games tonight, Sweet sixteen action. By the way, Hunter Dickinson is on the set of CBS Sports Network and he looks like he's forty eight years old and has been on the set for like sixteen years. He's looking sharp, but he's just he's older. Yeah, looks like he's maybe on the close up a little bit younger. But when he was with the wide shot of the five guys, looked like he was maybe a coach. That was yeah, you know, not coaching or eliminated early in the tournament, but Hunter Dickinson getting some run all right. Four games tonight, Ole miss Michigan State in the South, followed by Auburn and Michigan and then in the Midwest Purdue and Houston one four matchup, Kentucky Tennessee two three matchup.

I'm gonna cush you off. You get back ended, Sammy, what I'd say, that's because we have ninety seconds to talk about the four tournament games tonight, Sweet sixteen action. By the way, Hunter Dickinson is on the set of CBS Sports Network and he looks like he's forty eight years old and has been on the set for like sixteen years. He's looking sharp, but he's just he's older. Yeah, looks like he's maybe on the close up a little bit younger. But when he was with the wide shot of the five guys, looked like he was maybe a coach. That was yeah, you know, not coaching or eliminated early in the tournament, but Hunter Dickinson getting some run all right. Four games tonight, Ole miss Michigan State in the South, followed by Auburn and Michigan and then in the Midwest Purdue and Houston one four matchup, Kentucky Tennessee two three matchup.

All say, really quick, Tennessee Kentucky Part three will be interesting. The game that you have circled is the one that I'm interested in as well. Ole Miss just feels like they kind of match up well with Michigan State. Michigan State sort of survives against New Mexico in round two upset.

All say, really quick, Tennessee Kentucky Part three will be interesting. The game that you have circled is the one that I'm interested in as well. Ole Miss just feels like they kind of match up well with Michigan State. Michigan State sort of survives against New Mexico in round two upset.

There were not surprises. Yeah, I think it's a close games. So in any point of a close game, and again we mentioned it earlier. Sparty's a three and a half point favorite drafting sports act with that line, I like a close game, you might as well take the loser or the underdog in a coin flip if you can. And I'll tell you what I wonder if Auburn would rather face Michigan State than having to face Ole Miss a fourth time, even though they're three and zero against them this year, if Auburn can even get past Michigan I.

There were not surprises. Yeah, I think it's a close games. So in any point of a close game, and again we mentioned it earlier. Sparty's a three and a half point favorite drafting sports act with that line, I like a close game, you might as well take the loser or the underdog in a coin flip if you can. And I'll tell you what I wonder if Auburn would rather face Michigan State than having to face Ole Miss a fourth time, even though they're three and zero against them this year, if Auburn can even get past Michigan I.

The way Michigan State two and zero against Michigan we haven't talked enough about, not you and I, but just in general, that possible matchup in the ely date.

The way Michigan State two and zero against Michigan we haven't talked enough about, not you and I, but just in general, that possible matchup in the ely date.

Michigan does find crazy ways to win. Enjoy the sweet sixteen. Doug will be back Monday to recap the What's the Final four? Talk to Them

Michigan does find crazy ways to win. Enjoy the sweet sixteen. Doug will be back Monday to recap the What's the Final four? Talk to Them