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I think Bills fans are loving today. And the chill that was in Buffalo was not felt by the Bills fans of the Buffalo Bills. He was felt so much by the San Francisco forty nine ers. And that is where we start today. There's a lot to pinpoint on what has gone wrong with this San Francisco forty nine ers. But you know what last night was, Manzi, last night in a game that I don't even think it's fair to make this declaration, but last night you just realized it's not our year, it's our it's not going to be our year. And it was magnified in the Christian McCaffrey injury that we expect will likely cost him the rest of the season. Kyle Shanahan talked about it after the game. We'll hear from him in a second. But in terms of what last night was, it wasn't how they lost, it wasn't who they lost to. It's the accumulation of everything dating back to the offseason and where the San Francisco forty nine ers find themselves right now that this season is not the season they wanted after losing a super Bowl in overtime.

I think Bills fans are loving today. And the chill that was in Buffalo was not felt by the Bills fans of the Buffalo Bills. He was felt so much by the San Francisco forty nine ers. And that is where we start today. There's a lot to pinpoint on what has gone wrong with this San Francisco forty nine ers. But you know what last night was, Manzi, last night in a game that I don't even think it's fair to make this declaration, but last night you just realized it's not our year, it's our it's not going to be our year. And it was magnified in the Christian McCaffrey injury that we expect will likely cost him the rest of the season. Kyle Shanahan talked about it after the game. We'll hear from him in a second. But in terms of what last night was, it wasn't how they lost, it wasn't who they lost to. It's the accumulation of everything dating back to the offseason and where the San Francisco forty nine ers find themselves right now that this season is not the season they wanted after losing a super Bowl in overtime.

Yeah, since the off season, as you just mentioned, there's been a lot of adversity that the San Francisco forty nine ers have had to go through, and last night it was just really the cheering on top because it was isn't the first time that maybe you've thought, ooh, this might not be the Niners year. This wasn't the first time. It just was the last of it where it was like, yep, okay, this is not the year for the forty nine ers, unfortunately, but better now than losing in the playoffs.

Yeah, since the off season, as you just mentioned, there's been a lot of adversity that the San Francisco forty nine ers have had to go through, and last night it was just really the cheering on top because it was isn't the first time that maybe you've thought, ooh, this might not be the Niners year. This wasn't the first time. It just was the last of it where it was like, yep, okay, this is not the year for the forty nine ers, unfortunately, but better now than losing in the playoffs.

I don't know, try to give them silver lining, you know what I mean?

I don't know, try to give them silver lining, you know what I mean?

Yeah, No, they think that, and they are the San Francisco forty nine ers fans. They think that if this team, and I think that they felt that up until last night. They felt that if this team could sneak into the playoffs, either as a division winner because the NFC West is still up for grabs, if they could get in as a division winner, or if they could get in as a wild card, that everything would take care of themselves and they would go back to playing playoff football. And Manzi, I've never felt that with San Francisco. I've never felt that the entire season. Name me a team that has distractions throughout the entire off seat that ends up using those for good and it pays off during the season.

Yeah, No, they think that, and they are the San Francisco forty nine ers fans. They think that if this team, and I think that they felt that up until last night. They felt that if this team could sneak into the playoffs, either as a division winner because the NFC West is still up for grabs, if they could get in as a division winner, or if they could get in as a wild card, that everything would take care of themselves and they would go back to playing playoff football. And Manzi, I've never felt that with San Francisco. I've never felt that the entire season. Name me a team that has distractions throughout the entire off seat that ends up using those for good and it pays off during the season.

I don't have one for you.

I don't have one for you.

Yeah, I think, doesn't happen. Doesn't happen, Brandon Ayuk, Trent Williams, they're holdouts. Then we enter the season and Christian McCaffrey's injury history is now brought into play, and that was at the forefront of last night. He misses half of the season and forty nine Ers fans are telling everybody, wait till McCaffrey gets back, then we are going to be rolling well. In the meantime, you've lost Brandon Ayuki, you just signed to that contract. Poor Ricky Piersall ends up getting shot in the offseason. There's another point that's to no fault of his own. But when Pearsall has now shot, Brandon Ayuk shows up the practice before he ends up blowing out his knee and isn't wearing the same sort of practice shorts that the other team has. Kyle Shanahan makes him change into shorts. The reason why I'm intermingling all these things is at all these points you thought now's the time. This is when it turns around. This is the forty nine Ers, oh destroying the Jets on Week one awesome. The next week they lose to the Vikings. The next week they lose to the Rams. Guess what handled the Patriots with these next week low and lead lose that home to the Cardinals. This is not the same forty nine Ers team as a year ago. But week after week, after setback after setback, after controversy after controversy, they still tried to tell us that this team was different, that this team would turn it around because they are defending NFC champions and again lost the Super Bowl in overtime to the Kansas City Chiefs. And that is the definition of Super Bowl hangover. It's one of the worst hangovers that we have seen. And last night put a period to the sentence of the San Francisco forty nine Ers are set to repeat. They are not. It is done. It is over, and last night showed up.

Yeah, I think, doesn't happen. Doesn't happen, Brandon Ayuk, Trent Williams, they're holdouts. Then we enter the season and Christian McCaffrey's injury history is now brought into play, and that was at the forefront of last night. He misses half of the season and forty nine Ers fans are telling everybody, wait till McCaffrey gets back, then we are going to be rolling well. In the meantime, you've lost Brandon Ayuki, you just signed to that contract. Poor Ricky Piersall ends up getting shot in the offseason. There's another point that's to no fault of his own. But when Pearsall has now shot, Brandon Ayuk shows up the practice before he ends up blowing out his knee and isn't wearing the same sort of practice shorts that the other team has. Kyle Shanahan makes him change into shorts. The reason why I'm intermingling all these things is at all these points you thought now's the time. This is when it turns around. This is the forty nine Ers, oh destroying the Jets on Week one awesome. The next week they lose to the Vikings. The next week they lose to the Rams. Guess what handled the Patriots with these next week low and lead lose that home to the Cardinals. This is not the same forty nine Ers team as a year ago. But week after week, after setback after setback, after controversy after controversy, they still tried to tell us that this team was different, that this team would turn it around because they are defending NFC champions and again lost the Super Bowl in overtime to the Kansas City Chiefs. And that is the definition of Super Bowl hangover. It's one of the worst hangovers that we have seen. And last night put a period to the sentence of the San Francisco forty nine Ers are set to repeat. They are not. It is done. It is over, and last night showed up.

You can't really blame those forty nine Ers fans for holding on to hope this entire time. I would have too, especially with the way their division looks. Like you and I saw all of these problems early on, because that's not our team. But if that's my team, I'm gonna hold on to hope based on not just last year, but the last couple of years and how they've come together.

You can't really blame those forty nine Ers fans for holding on to hope this entire time. I would have too, especially with the way their division looks. Like you and I saw all of these problems early on, because that's not our team. But if that's my team, I'm gonna hold on to hope based on not just last year, but the last couple of years and how they've come together.

But in reality, you see.

But in reality, you see.

Other teams this year who have actually gone through their own adversity, like the Bills, like the Lions, and they continue to get past it. The forty nine ers have not gotten past anything. They just kind of have put everything to the side every time it happens. And like the Christian McCaffrey situation, Biggot, we were all bamboozled, every single one of us, because that didn't just happen.

Other teams this year who have actually gone through their own adversity, like the Bills, like the Lions, and they continue to get past it. The forty nine ers have not gotten past anything. They just kind of have put everything to the side every time it happens. And like the Christian McCaffrey situation, Biggot, we were all bamboozled, every single one of us, because that didn't just happen.

They just told us very last minute about it.

They just told us very last minute about it.

And so again I don't blame rich Davis or coworker for holding on to hope for that team, but the hope had been gone. Every week there was less and less hope, and then yesterday was just.

And so again I don't blame rich Davis or coworker for holding on to hope for that team, but the hope had been gone. Every week there was less and less hope, and then yesterday was just.

The final art hallways are littered with forty nine ers, not just.

The final art hallways are littered with forty nine ers, not just.

Rich Davis the one I'm thinking of.

Rich Davis the one I'm thinking of.

Yeah, I live next to a forty nine er fan two houses down that they have they have hopes that this is the season. You want to know why they had hopes because they knew that this was it. If it's not this year, it's over. And that was the thing with San Francisco, to me, that was so that was so daunting. And when you look at this season, it's everything has to be in the season. You want to know why, because you got to pay brock party. This is the last season that you don't have to pay your quarterback and make that decision. At some point, you're going to have to make a decision on Christian McCaffrey. And guess what. Christian McCaffrey, before his run in San Francisco, was thought to be an injury prone running back. His talent was unquestionable, but it was whether he could stay on the football field. During his time in San Francisco up to that point, basically flawless he was on the football field. But guess what, that reality sets in, And that was a reality that I don't think people were willing to look at as a real thing because guess so, let's just run it back. Let's just run it back. They'll do it again. Just run it back, get to the super Bowl again, and this time you'll win it. It's not that easy. Trent Williams is another year older. Now you've paid Brandon Nyuk. Now you're wondering what's gonna happen with Deebo Samuel who's also had his injury history. Nick Bosa is hurt. Now we find out Fred Warner has been playing on a fractured ankle or whatever for the last ten weeks. Like these are all the things that add up. It's the number of games that you play. It's the expectations that you have. But Monci, your point is one hundred percent correct. Forty nine Er fans did not want to face this reality because this is all that they had. This is it. There is no next year, not with hanging brock Perty, not without Christian McCaffrey coming off of a significant knee injury, let alone him dealing with his Achilles problems in the past. It is all over and now you have to figure out a way to regroup it a completely different way. I think that there's some frustrations that you see with Kyle Shanahan. I said, we're going to hear from him. We will. But that's why the forty nine ers fans last night was it and I think it's a harsh reality for them today.

Yeah, I live next to a forty nine er fan two houses down that they have they have hopes that this is the season. You want to know why they had hopes because they knew that this was it. If it's not this year, it's over. And that was the thing with San Francisco, to me, that was so that was so daunting. And when you look at this season, it's everything has to be in the season. You want to know why, because you got to pay brock party. This is the last season that you don't have to pay your quarterback and make that decision. At some point, you're going to have to make a decision on Christian McCaffrey. And guess what. Christian McCaffrey, before his run in San Francisco, was thought to be an injury prone running back. His talent was unquestionable, but it was whether he could stay on the football field. During his time in San Francisco up to that point, basically flawless he was on the football field. But guess what, that reality sets in, And that was a reality that I don't think people were willing to look at as a real thing because guess so, let's just run it back. Let's just run it back. They'll do it again. Just run it back, get to the super Bowl again, and this time you'll win it. It's not that easy. Trent Williams is another year older. Now you've paid Brandon Nyuk. Now you're wondering what's gonna happen with Deebo Samuel who's also had his injury history. Nick Bosa is hurt. Now we find out Fred Warner has been playing on a fractured ankle or whatever for the last ten weeks. Like these are all the things that add up. It's the number of games that you play. It's the expectations that you have. But Monci, your point is one hundred percent correct. Forty nine Er fans did not want to face this reality because this is all that they had. This is it. There is no next year, not with hanging brock Perty, not without Christian McCaffrey coming off of a significant knee injury, let alone him dealing with his Achilles problems in the past. It is all over and now you have to figure out a way to regroup it a completely different way. I think that there's some frustrations that you see with Kyle Shanahan. I said, we're going to hear from him. We will. But that's why the forty nine ers fans last night was it and I think it's a harsh reality for them today.

And it was a rough way to go out because it was unbelievable. They just couldn't get anything going, and in the snow where it was like, oh, you just get one quick step over your defender, you're going to take off, as we saw literally James Cook do every single time he touched the ball. But nobody on the forty nine Ers could get anything going. It really was period our season is done. And to add to everything you just said, not only do they have all of these problems going on. Literally we just listed you did a list of the things that have been happening since the offseason. You have all these other teams that are getting better and better like you.

And it was a rough way to go out because it was unbelievable. They just couldn't get anything going, and in the snow where it was like, oh, you just get one quick step over your defender, you're going to take off, as we saw literally James Cook do every single time he touched the ball. But nobody on the forty nine Ers could get anything going. It really was period our season is done. And to add to everything you just said, not only do they have all of these problems going on. Literally we just listed you did a list of the things that have been happening since the offseason. You have all these other teams that are getting better and better like you.

It's not that we just have to hold on.

It's not that we just have to hold on.

No, what you're holding on to is the past, because there's other teams that are getting better around you now.

No, what you're holding on to is the past, because there's other teams that are getting better around you now.

So you have to get better.

So you have to get better.

But now you have all these questions about your contract, brock party and all that. There's no way you're going to be able to turn this around to compete in the next couple of years.

But now you have all these questions about your contract, brock party and all that. There's no way you're going to be able to turn this around to compete in the next couple of years.

It doesn't seem that way.

It doesn't seem that way.

This was Kyle Shanahan talking about the team's lost last night to the Buffalo Bills and them holding onto the football or lack thereof.

This was Kyle Shanahan talking about the team's lost last night to the Buffalo Bills and them holding onto the football or lack thereof.

You know, we got back in it with twenty eight to ten, but then we had two more turnovers after that, which got none. So playing in those conditions us having three, them having zero. The way they ran the ball made it real tough.

You know, we got back in it with twenty eight to ten, but then we had two more turnovers after that, which got none. So playing in those conditions us having three, them having zero. The way they ran the ball made it real tough.

Listen, losing in Buffalo is a commonplace for the rest of the National Football League. Losing in those conditions it happens. But the Christian McCaffrey injury is the big one to me. And now there's even more on the shoulders of brock Perty. And if you were a forty nine Ers fan coming into the season and you were to say, Okay, you're going to try to run it back, but here's the deal. You're not gonna have Christian McCaffrey for a majority of it. You're gonna lose Brandon Ayuk for most of it. And guess what during the middle of the season and as you enter your stretch run, Trent Williams is not going to be available. Yeah, that and that's exactly where the forty nine ers are right now. None of those would be reasons for you to think that the forty nine ers could run it back again.

Listen, losing in Buffalo is a commonplace for the rest of the National Football League. Losing in those conditions it happens. But the Christian McCaffrey injury is the big one to me. And now there's even more on the shoulders of brock Perty. And if you were a forty nine Ers fan coming into the season and you were to say, Okay, you're going to try to run it back, but here's the deal. You're not gonna have Christian McCaffrey for a majority of it. You're gonna lose Brandon Ayuk for most of it. And guess what during the middle of the season and as you enter your stretch run, Trent Williams is not going to be available. Yeah, that and that's exactly where the forty nine ers are right now. None of those would be reasons for you to think that the forty nine ers could run it back again.

And maybe we were all delusional too.

And maybe we were all delusional too.

I'm a outing myself to the fan base that once Christian McAffrey was back, he was going to just be back to normal, which is delusional of me to even think that, right, and especially off of what he just went through to go and play in.

I'm a outing myself to the fan base that once Christian McAffrey was back, he was going to just be back to normal, which is delusional of me to even think that, right, and especially off of what he just went through to go and play in.

The snow like that, and he did look good for what three four drives. It actually did look good for him, And you were like, okay, because.

The snow like that, and he did look good for what three four drives. It actually did look good for him, And you were like, okay, because.

He seemed like he had a slow star understandably so, but it's like did they they were desperate shove him back into a situation when they should have eased him back in.

He seemed like he had a slow star understandably so, but it's like did they they were desperate shove him back into a situation when they should have eased him back in.

But as we have been talking, the Niners had.

But as we have been talking, the Niners had.

No other choice because it's now or never, So even if Christian McCaffrey was not one hundred percent ready, they had no other choice, and it backfired in the worst possible.

No other choice because it's now or never, So even if Christian McCaffrey was not one hundred percent ready, they had no other choice, and it backfired in the worst possible.

I don't know if it would have prevented it or not, but I think I feel like they should have. I mean, Jordan Mason and Isaac Grendo you saw last night and end up getting into the end zone. They had filled in capably at times for him, and I felt that there should have been more of the passing of the torch that way. But Kyle Shanahan said, full go, We're going with McCaffrey as our guy, and said why would there be any limitations? Were given them the four workload, and now here they are with another significant injury, which again was a part of his past.

I don't know if it would have prevented it or not, but I think I feel like they should have. I mean, Jordan Mason and Isaac Grendo you saw last night and end up getting into the end zone. They had filled in capably at times for him, and I felt that there should have been more of the passing of the torch that way. But Kyle Shanahan said, full go, We're going with McCaffrey as our guy, and said why would there be any limitations? Were given them the four workload, and now here they are with another significant injury, which again was a part of his past.

He's gonna ask you, yeah, because you will told them well, the age, the injury, you know, Kyle, all of these things.

He's gonna ask you, yeah, because you will told them well, the age, the injury, you know, Kyle, all of these things.

Yeah, to ask you, I just thought. I just felt that there was no guarantee, not that not that Christian McCaffrey would look a certain way, but that things would be the same as they were for the forty nine ers if Christian McCaffrey came back and he hadn't been the same back. But then you're like, Okay, is it because you don't have ayuk Is, because you don't have Trent Williams? What's the deal? And now the injury history ends up popping up. But I was not convinced that Christian McCaffrey was going to be the fix. All here's forty nine Ers quarterback Brock Pirty on what now sits ahead of them for the rest of the season at five and seven.

Yeah, to ask you, I just thought. I just felt that there was no guarantee, not that not that Christian McCaffrey would look a certain way, but that things would be the same as they were for the forty nine ers if Christian McCaffrey came back and he hadn't been the same back. But then you're like, Okay, is it because you don't have ayuk Is, because you don't have Trent Williams? What's the deal? And now the injury history ends up popping up. But I was not convinced that Christian McCaffrey was going to be the fix. All here's forty nine Ers quarterback Brock Pirty on what now sits ahead of them for the rest of the season at five and seven.

Every game's got to be must win for us. So you know, we don't have any room clearly if we want to make the playoffs and you know, get ahead and do the thing that we've set out to do before the season. Man, everyone's got to be a must win and so that's playing his day and we all know that. So, like I said, we all just got to be accountable and grow from it. And you know, we don't have a lot of room for air right now. We got to go.

Every game's got to be must win for us. So you know, we don't have any room clearly if we want to make the playoffs and you know, get ahead and do the thing that we've set out to do before the season. Man, everyone's got to be a must win and so that's playing his day and we all know that. So, like I said, we all just got to be accountable and grow from it. And you know, we don't have a lot of room for air right now. We got to go.

We forgot to even mention brock parties shoulder injury.

We forgot to even mention brock parties shoulder injury.

Sure he's dealing with yes, like the Brandon Allen.

Sure he's dealing with yes, like the Brandon Allen.

Game, right right, So again I guess hold on to hope.

Game, right right, So again I guess hold on to hope.

But why there's the there there's a mathematical way that they could win the division? Yes, there is. You have three home games of your final five left Bears, Rams and Lions. Is it a given that they win all three of those? Heck? No, Is there a given that they win two of those three? No?

But why there's the there there's a mathematical way that they could win the division? Yes, there is. You have three home games of your final five left Bears, Rams and Lions. Is it a given that they win all three of those? Heck? No, Is there a given that they win two of those three? No?

Not.

Not.

Maybe at the beginning of the season when we looked at this as it was was playing out, but I don't think so. You also end the year at Arizona, team that beat you earlier in the season. Arizona had troubles with penalties and getting into the en zone yesterday against Minnesota, but by all accounts, they probably should have won the game against Minnesota. Like Arizona, for whatever they are, they are legit in who they are, six and six, They're going to give you a dogfight. There's no way San Francisco runs the table after this, And even if they did, Manci, even if they did, the point remains this. When the forty nine ers came into this season. They weren't competing with the Cardinals, they weren't competing with the Rams, they weren't competing with the Seahawks. They were competing with the Eagles, they were competing with the Lions, they were competing with the Packers the top of the NFC. And even if somehow miraculously you figure out a way to maneuver a couple of wins and you get into the playoffs, you aren't at the level of those other teams. Yep. And that's the difference to me with San Francisco and why it's now over.

Maybe at the beginning of the season when we looked at this as it was was playing out, but I don't think so. You also end the year at Arizona, team that beat you earlier in the season. Arizona had troubles with penalties and getting into the en zone yesterday against Minnesota, but by all accounts, they probably should have won the game against Minnesota. Like Arizona, for whatever they are, they are legit in who they are, six and six, They're going to give you a dogfight. There's no way San Francisco runs the table after this, And even if they did, Manci, even if they did, the point remains this. When the forty nine ers came into this season. They weren't competing with the Cardinals, they weren't competing with the Rams, they weren't competing with the Seahawks. They were competing with the Eagles, they were competing with the Lions, they were competing with the Packers the top of the NFC. And even if somehow miraculously you figure out a way to maneuver a couple of wins and you get into the playoffs, you aren't at the level of those other teams. Yep. And that's the difference to me with San Francisco and why it's now over.

And now I'm sure teams that are playing the Rams to finish the season or the Rams, sorry, the forty nine ers, I'm looking at their division. Any team playing the forty nine ers is not looking at them with any sort of fear.

And now I'm sure teams that are playing the Rams to finish the season or the Rams, sorry, the forty nine ers, I'm looking at their division. Any team playing the forty nine ers is not looking at them with any sort of fear.

They don't see them as threat.

They don't see them as threat.

You're right at all.

You're right at all.

So that's not going for them either.

So that's not going for them either.

It's what a world we live in. Yeah, every year, aren't there teams that are in and out of the playoffs and you try to get but I guess what, when you saw the NFC this year, you said, well, San Francisco will be there, right, Not only.

It's what a world we live in. Yeah, every year, aren't there teams that are in and out of the playoffs and you try to get but I guess what, when you saw the NFC this year, you said, well, San Francisco will be there, right, Not only.

Does hey, San Francisco will be there. I said the bills would.

Does hey, San Francisco will be there. I said the bills would.

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You got no place to go because you're here with us on The Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radios. She's Monty Belangos. I'm Dan Byer. Oh it snowed last night in Buffalo. Oh what a pain? What a pain to watch that thing? This is? This is Let me guess Manci, you loved it last night. I did.

Let me guy as your fun at parties.

Let me guy as your fun at parties.

Like every party isn't the same every party isn't the same. I know, we just trashed the forty nine ers. We didn't even talk about the stupid stat that says how many Pro Bowlers have missed games? Yeah, because you got old guys who made a lot of Pro Bowls. Now they're hurt. That's what happens later on in your career. Guys miss games because guess what, there's a lot of miles on those tires. You're playing playoff football, you're playing into February. That stuff catches up with you at some point. But last night, I don't know if it was even entirely the forty nine ers fault. This is my problem with snow games. You get muted football. Even the Buffalo Bills, who were dominant in the game last night, were not the Buffalo Bills that we are used to seeing. They figured out a way to win that game. Home crowd, they're accustomed to the conditions. All of that played into the account that Buffalo was able to win. They weren't perfect last night, and now they were the San Francisco forty nine ers, and the forty nine ers nor the Buffalo Bills could do what they really wanted to do because of the conditions. And this is my point about snow games and going back to what we had with the Browns and Steelers on Thursday night. I don't want to see this every single week. I don't want to see this in big games. It's why Super Bowls typically aren't played in cold weather places. They're played indoors where the climate is controllable. Last night is fun for a minute, But if you really wanted to watch the forty nine ers and you really wanted to watch the Bills go at it, I don't know how that can be better last night than what we would see with them in a neutral spot or a place where weather conditions weren't affecting the actual play on the field.

Like every party isn't the same every party isn't the same. I know, we just trashed the forty nine ers. We didn't even talk about the stupid stat that says how many Pro Bowlers have missed games? Yeah, because you got old guys who made a lot of Pro Bowls. Now they're hurt. That's what happens later on in your career. Guys miss games because guess what, there's a lot of miles on those tires. You're playing playoff football, you're playing into February. That stuff catches up with you at some point. But last night, I don't know if it was even entirely the forty nine ers fault. This is my problem with snow games. You get muted football. Even the Buffalo Bills, who were dominant in the game last night, were not the Buffalo Bills that we are used to seeing. They figured out a way to win that game. Home crowd, they're accustomed to the conditions. All of that played into the account that Buffalo was able to win. They weren't perfect last night, and now they were the San Francisco forty nine ers, and the forty nine ers nor the Buffalo Bills could do what they really wanted to do because of the conditions. And this is my point about snow games and going back to what we had with the Browns and Steelers on Thursday night. I don't want to see this every single week. I don't want to see this in big games. It's why Super Bowls typically aren't played in cold weather places. They're played indoors where the climate is controllable. Last night is fun for a minute, But if you really wanted to watch the forty nine ers and you really wanted to watch the Bills go at it, I don't know how that can be better last night than what we would see with them in a neutral spot or a place where weather conditions weren't affecting the actual play on the field.

What if the Bills were playing another team like the Steelers where they're used to the snow, and it was a competitive game to the end, you still wouldn't like it, Still wouldn't like it, still wouldn't like it.

What if the Bills were playing another team like the Steelers where they're used to the snow, and it was a competitive game to the end, you still wouldn't like it, Still wouldn't like it, still wouldn't like it.

Well, Dan, I don't know what to tell you.

Well, Dan, I don't know what to tell you.

I don't think running on tiptoes is fun because you're afraid you might slip because the conditions.

I don't think running on tiptoes is fun because you're afraid you might slip because the conditions.

But this isn't an every week occurrence. It isn't.

But this isn't an every week occurrence. It isn't.

It isn't, and that's part of football. You play in whatever condition. You play where the ball lands, you should know that is a golfer. You play where the ball lands.

It isn't, and that's part of football. You play in whatever condition. You play where the ball lands, you should know that is a golfer. You play where the ball lands.

Under repair, drops, Yes, you play.

Under repair, drops, Yes, you play.

Whether it's snowing, raining. The only time you don't play is if there's lightning.

Whether it's snowing, raining. The only time you don't play is if there's lightning.

And if there's if this did happen way more often than it did, then maybe, but they don't happen as often. It's not a super Bowl game.

And if there's if this did happen way more often than it did, then maybe, but they don't happen as often. It's not a super Bowl game.

Why do you think Why do you think they don't play in baseball when it rains?

Why do you think Why do you think they don't play in baseball when it rains?

Because it's hard?

Because it's hard?

Yeah, because no I know.

Yeah, because no I know.

Everywhere fully fly, get that, but it's hard for everybody.

Everywhere fully fly, get that, but it's hard for everybody.

It's hard for everybody.

It's hard for everybody.

I remember the World Series in two thousand and eight when they called it because of rain and the sixth inning between the Rais and Phillies, well.

I remember the World Series in two thousand and eight when they called it because of rain and the sixth inning between the Rais and Phillies, well.

You cann't see anything, and.

You cann't see anything, and.

It was it was pouring. But the Rays, the Rays were able to score in the top half of the sixth inning, and it was because the Phillies couldn't field the baseball. And so like is that on? Is that? Like the point is is if you're gonna try to determine something. Then the Phillies came back and won the game and won the World series a few nights later. But the point is is of playing these games. Yeah, it's neat with the one off, but now this is the second straight week on a nationally televised game that we have seen two teams have to go a completely different route and not play how they would normally play football, and we're all supposed to love it. I just I would rather to get a real sense of where the forty nine ers are. I would love to see how they matched up against the Buffalo Bills, who got Matt Mulatto back for the first time in over a year, and he's on the field, and all of these factors are playing in Let's get a real judge of where these teams are. But we can't because they're afraid of slipping on the twenty six yard line. Because you can only plow the twenty and the twenty five in the thirty in the thirty five. It's a mess. It's not enjoyable football.

It was it was pouring. But the Rays, the Rays were able to score in the top half of the sixth inning, and it was because the Phillies couldn't field the baseball. And so like is that on? Is that? Like the point is is if you're gonna try to determine something. Then the Phillies came back and won the game and won the World series a few nights later. But the point is is of playing these games. Yeah, it's neat with the one off, but now this is the second straight week on a nationally televised game that we have seen two teams have to go a completely different route and not play how they would normally play football, and we're all supposed to love it. I just I would rather to get a real sense of where the forty nine ers are. I would love to see how they matched up against the Buffalo Bills, who got Matt Mulatto back for the first time in over a year, and he's on the field, and all of these factors are playing in Let's get a real judge of where these teams are. But we can't because they're afraid of slipping on the twenty six yard line. Because you can only plow the twenty and the twenty five in the thirty in the thirty five. It's a mess. It's not enjoyable football.

Have players so that they don't enjoy it, because I correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like I haven't heard players say that they don't like playing like this. In fact, most of the time, the players look like they're having a grand time.

Have players so that they don't enjoy it, because I correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like I haven't heard players say that they don't like playing like this. In fact, most of the time, the players look like they're having a grand time.

If I'm Josh Allen and I'm the story of last night, I have no idea on how you could enjoy it. Would want to play in that every single week, but I would want to throw the football, I know. But now this is the this is the second straight week that we've had a game huh yeah in the snow, and it's just like, at some point it's okay, all right enough already. I can't believe but I'm actually siding with Skip Bayless.

If I'm Josh Allen and I'm the story of last night, I have no idea on how you could enjoy it. Would want to play in that every single week, but I would want to throw the football, I know. But now this is the this is the second straight week that we've had a game huh yeah in the snow, and it's just like, at some point it's okay, all right enough already. I can't believe but I'm actually siding with Skip Bayless.

Yeah, no, I can't believe that.

Yeah, no, I can't believe that.

Kip Bayless said the same exact thing, like, this is this is not fun, This isn't this isn't what I tuned in the sea, and I felt like last night was again two offenses completely muted by the conditions. It's neat at first, but by the time you're in the second quarter, you don't get a real judge of who should win the football game.

Kip Bayless said the same exact thing, like, this is this is not fun, This isn't this isn't what I tuned in the sea, and I felt like last night was again two offenses completely muted by the conditions. It's neat at first, but by the time you're in the second quarter, you don't get a real judge of who should win the football game.

Well, next time you and Skip, we'll know that the weather is like that because it wasn't a surprise.

Well, next time you and Skip, we'll know that the weather is like that because it wasn't a surprise.

We've known for days and it's gonna be like that. So then don't watch it, and then you won't get mad.

We've known for days and it's gonna be like that. So then don't watch it, and then you won't get mad.

Jason Stewart is our executive producer who has been on the side of this. I wasn't mad Manzi. I was just saying, like, okay.

Jason Stewart is our executive producer who has been on the side of this. I wasn't mad Manzi. I was just saying, like, okay.

I'm not enjoying it.

I'm not enjoying it.

Yeah, I just don't feel like it's a real test. It's it's it's more hokey, it's.

Yeah, I just don't feel like it's a real test. It's it's it's more hokey, it's.

There's But if that was truly how the league felt, they would prevent those games from happening.

There's But if that was truly how the league felt, they would prevent those games from happening.

They don't. They clearly don't feel that way.

They don't. They clearly don't feel that way.

Yes, there's a lot at stake, Like it takes a lot to move a game, and it's usually the safety of the community or the resources that are provided otherwise. So yeah, yeah, okay, so you're right. So the NFL is like, all right, if we could get enough Sheriff's Department security there, everybody, we're fine, We're gonna play it. That's that's what the NFL thinks. I think differently. I don't think that they it needs to be played in fifty degree weather every time, But I would much rather watch them play in fifty degree weather than see what they had last night. Jason Stewart, two weeks ago, you were on the other side of this with the Steelers and Browns. Did anything change your mind last night? That's right.

Yes, there's a lot at stake, Like it takes a lot to move a game, and it's usually the safety of the community or the resources that are provided otherwise. So yeah, yeah, okay, so you're right. So the NFL is like, all right, if we could get enough Sheriff's Department security there, everybody, we're fine, We're gonna play it. That's that's what the NFL thinks. I think differently. I don't think that they it needs to be played in fifty degree weather every time, But I would much rather watch them play in fifty degree weather than see what they had last night. Jason Stewart, two weeks ago, you were on the other side of this with the Steelers and Browns. Did anything change your mind last night? That's right.

So Doug and I both loved watching that game just because it's it is a one off, it's an it's an outlier, it's something. It's that you know, we consume, among all of us, hundreds of football games every year, right, and to just watch a game being playing in a different element is fun after so much football. So I sided with Moncey on that that this isn't something we need to say every week, And then last night I had the same amount of fun. I don't know if I'll say that in a week if we have another game, but I know you have some Southern California slander in this, and I want to give you a chance to air that before I respond to it.

So Doug and I both loved watching that game just because it's it is a one off, it's an it's an outlier, it's something. It's that you know, we consume, among all of us, hundreds of football games every year, right, and to just watch a game being playing in a different element is fun after so much football. So I sided with Moncey on that that this isn't something we need to say every week, And then last night I had the same amount of fun. I don't know if I'll say that in a week if we have another game, but I know you have some Southern California slander in this, and I want to give you a chance to air that before I respond to it.

I think that that the the love of it, that that you guys love in a game like this is because you're from Southern California, your natives of of Southern California. I don't know if you were born here, Moncey, but the point that you were, you were you grew up here. So you're used to watching a snow game and then going outside and have a b sixty five degrees and then driving to work and it's sunny in seventy and there's this is what I grew up in not not to the level. We didn't have lake effects snow where I lived, but I lived in a winter climate in north central Wisconsin. That's where I grew up, So I'm used to this stuff. This isn't as much of an anomaly to me. And I think you guys see this and think, oh, this is awesome, this is cool because you don't have to deal with it. Every haven't had to deal with it ever, So it's so foreign to you that it's neat to see. And I just I don't think that it's neat at all.

I think that that the the love of it, that that you guys love in a game like this is because you're from Southern California, your natives of of Southern California. I don't know if you were born here, Moncey, but the point that you were, you were you grew up here. So you're used to watching a snow game and then going outside and have a b sixty five degrees and then driving to work and it's sunny in seventy and there's this is what I grew up in not not to the level. We didn't have lake effects snow where I lived, but I lived in a winter climate in north central Wisconsin. That's where I grew up, So I'm used to this stuff. This isn't as much of an anomaly to me. And I think you guys see this and think, oh, this is awesome, this is cool because you don't have to deal with it. Every haven't had to deal with it ever, So it's so foreign to you that it's neat to see. And I just I don't think that it's neat at all.

Yes, it looks fictitious to me.

Yes, it looks fictitious to me.

You're right, that's fake, is it?

You're right, that's fake, is it?

I watched it them like, I cannot believe that people live like that.

I watched it them like, I cannot believe that people live like that.

You're right.

You're right.

That could be why we enjoy it so much.

That could be why we enjoy it so much.

Maybe imagine your team, Manci the Chargers, Okay, Chargers go into the playoffs, read hot Herbert's throwing the football everywhere, and you got to go face Buffalo in these conditions? Would you want that? Would you want Justin Herbert to be muted, to have his full arsenal not available because of the weather conditions because of a of a blizzard that hit the area. Your seasons on the line. Would you want that to happen?

Maybe imagine your team, Manci the Chargers, Okay, Chargers go into the playoffs, read hot Herbert's throwing the football everywhere, and you got to go face Buffalo in these conditions? Would you want that? Would you want Justin Herbert to be muted, to have his full arsenal not available because of the weather conditions because of a of a blizzard that hit the area. Your seasons on the line. Would you want that to happen?

Of course not, but also that's the game. Of course not. Of course I wouldn't want that, but.

Of course not, but also that's the game. Of course not. Of course I wouldn't want that, but.

You know what, I hope that if the Chargers have to do that, they're going to fly out early and they're going to try and play in those conditions at the park and figure out how to do it. But he may not be throwing the ball, neither is Josh Allen. They're going to be passing the ball or they're gonna be handing off the ball because you don't.

You know what, I hope that if the Chargers have to do that, they're going to fly out early and they're going to try and play in those conditions at the park and figure out how to do it. But he may not be throwing the ball, neither is Josh Allen. They're going to be passing the ball or they're gonna be handing off the ball because you don't.

Want to throw it in that situation.

Want to throw it in that situation.

So yes, of course I wouldn't want that, but that's the sport and you gotta get you gotta get through it.

So yes, of course I wouldn't want that, but that's the sport and you gotta get you gotta get through it.

I actually think the cold weather games that they have at night are stupid when they like the Chiefs and Dolphins and the player last where people absolutely frigid. Yes, yeah, I like that, Like I get it. The Chiefs have home field advantage, and there's there's you see guys warming up without shirts on and no, you know, no top at all, and I'm not gonna wear sleeves like that proves nothing to me that if if you're doing it because you're not gonna you're gonna get a better grip on the football. Completely fine with it, you know, it's just an issue Joe Burrow Jamar Chase had to go through of Hey, you're not gonna put this cream on your arm so you're warm because you're not gonna be able to catch the football, the whole deal. But I just don't know how throwing a frozen rock in like five below zero temperatures basically on an ice skating reek is great football. I'd rather see the Dolphins and Chiefs go at it and play in a spot where we can see both of their strengths.

I actually think the cold weather games that they have at night are stupid when they like the Chiefs and Dolphins and the player last where people absolutely frigid. Yes, yeah, I like that, Like I get it. The Chiefs have home field advantage, and there's there's you see guys warming up without shirts on and no, you know, no top at all, and I'm not gonna wear sleeves like that proves nothing to me that if if you're doing it because you're not gonna you're gonna get a better grip on the football. Completely fine with it, you know, it's just an issue Joe Burrow Jamar Chase had to go through of Hey, you're not gonna put this cream on your arm so you're warm because you're not gonna be able to catch the football, the whole deal. But I just don't know how throwing a frozen rock in like five below zero temperatures basically on an ice skating reek is great football. I'd rather see the Dolphins and Chiefs go at it and play in a spot where we can see both of their strengths.

Can I respond? Yeah, can respond to your southern California thing before you too. Sorry, I totally agree with you, and I didn't think about it until you said it. I think that that's what Maazi and I are feeling, and maybe Isaac too, maybe Ryan. And the reason why I'm with you on this is because I have a similar theory about earthquakes. I always know who isn't from Southern California when an earthquake happens, and then you go on Twitter, and then you know this transplant from New York or Detroit. It's like anyone else feel that And they're trying to act like they're cool about it, sure, but they're freaking out. So it's kind of the same thing for me. You could always kind of tell where the transplant is during bad weather, or where the transplant is during an earthquake.

Can I respond? Yeah, can respond to your southern California thing before you too. Sorry, I totally agree with you, and I didn't think about it until you said it. I think that that's what Maazi and I are feeling, and maybe Isaac too, maybe Ryan. And the reason why I'm with you on this is because I have a similar theory about earthquakes. I always know who isn't from Southern California when an earthquake happens, and then you go on Twitter, and then you know this transplant from New York or Detroit. It's like anyone else feel that And they're trying to act like they're cool about it, sure, but they're freaking out. So it's kind of the same thing for me. You could always kind of tell where the transplant is during bad weather, or where the transplant is during an earthquake.

So I'm kind of with you on that. I'm going to give you you appreciate that. Sorry, I kind of started the veer, but I do think that there's this this reality is Manzi called it. Manzi called it fantasy Lancer. I still did with like a sinus thing for like a month. So Moncey said, it's not real, And yeah, to that point, it's not real to you guys, And I'm sorry. A trip to Big Bear does not cancel it out, does not say we're good.

So I'm kind of with you on that. I'm going to give you you appreciate that. Sorry, I kind of started the veer, but I do think that there's this this reality is Manzi called it. Manzi called it fantasy Lancer. I still did with like a sinus thing for like a month. So Moncey said, it's not real, And yeah, to that point, it's not real to you guys, And I'm sorry. A trip to Big Bear does not cancel it out, does not say we're good.

I really I'm with I'm when Jason, I agree with you that that is probably a really big factor as to why we enjoy it way more than someone who actually knows what it's like to be there. Now, I will tell you, like, I can't imagine sitting in a game like that. I don't know how that's fun for the fans.

I really I'm with I'm when Jason, I agree with you that that is probably a really big factor as to why we enjoy it way more than someone who actually knows what it's like to be there. Now, I will tell you, like, I can't imagine sitting in a game like that. I don't know how that's fun for the fans.

You end up you end up just dealing with it. I tell the story once it when I went to a Packer game in high school and I wore my Larry Johnson Converse because I didn't want to wear boots because I wanted to be cool, and my feet were numb at the end of the first quarter.

You end up you end up just dealing with it. I tell the story once it when I went to a Packer game in high school and I wore my Larry Johnson Converse because I didn't want to wear boots because I wanted to be cool, and my feet were numb at the end of the first quarter.

I can't imagine.

I can't imagine.

Because you're on a concrete slab and it's zero degrees outside, so it trent like you gotta wear boots, you gotta wear layers, you have to wear socks, and I wanted to leave. I was an idiot, I was I was stupid. I was dumb. There is a point where you are amongst everybody and so you're kind of in it together.

Because you're on a concrete slab and it's zero degrees outside, so it trent like you gotta wear boots, you gotta wear layers, you have to wear socks, and I wanted to leave. I was an idiot, I was I was stupid. I was dumb. There is a point where you are amongst everybody and so you're kind of in it together.

Company.

Company.

Yeah, some of that, you know, everybody's bundled up. There's there is something to that. The wind isn't because there are so many people and you're in a certain spot, the wind isn't hitting you as much as you think. Not to take anything away, but it's it's not like you're being blasted with cold for whatever. But the thing that I always say for people that aren't from a cold weather area, that go to a cold weather place and say, how do people live like this? Most people aren't outside eight hours a day when it's zero degrees, So even being outside for four straight hours for a football game is pretty significant. You know, some people may go snowmobiling and do that stuff, but by and large are usually just inside during the winter months. So it's it's still not for everybody, but you make fun of with it because it's the community that you're within.

Yeah, some of that, you know, everybody's bundled up. There's there is something to that. The wind isn't because there are so many people and you're in a certain spot, the wind isn't hitting you as much as you think. Not to take anything away, but it's it's not like you're being blasted with cold for whatever. But the thing that I always say for people that aren't from a cold weather area, that go to a cold weather place and say, how do people live like this? Most people aren't outside eight hours a day when it's zero degrees, So even being outside for four straight hours for a football game is pretty significant. You know, some people may go snowmobiling and do that stuff, but by and large are usually just inside during the winter months. So it's it's still not for everybody, but you make fun of with it because it's the community that you're within.

I give you all much credit because if it's low thirties, I'm not going outside.

I give you all much credit because if it's low thirties, I'm not going outside.

Maddy James tweets in Bills in San Francisco scored more points than half the other NFL games. That's because the defenders are also on ice skates trying to figure out. In fact, when we've talked about games where bad weather, the offense actually has more of an advantage because they know where they're going. The defense actually has to respond. But there's no way that you can tell me last night and watching the forty nine Ers and Bills that they had their full arsenal of their offense. That is not the point at all about how many points were scored. It's just that Buffalo handled the conditions way better than San Francisco did, and San Francisco also lost their star running back because of it. Yeah, so I played a part in it. Weather wasn't a factor in Baltimore yesterday. Justin Tucker was a factor the Ravens kicker missing two field goals plus an extra point, and the Ravens end up losing to Philadelphia by the way, Monci in a game that I was sure and Carrie Rhodes, we were all together yesterday. I met you and Carrie here on Red Zone Radio talking about that game. We both were convinced this is a game for the Ravens to win. They end up falling twenty four to nineteen. Ravens scored a late touchdown to make it look closer, but the Justin Tucker problems continue in Baltimore.

Maddy James tweets in Bills in San Francisco scored more points than half the other NFL games. That's because the defenders are also on ice skates trying to figure out. In fact, when we've talked about games where bad weather, the offense actually has more of an advantage because they know where they're going. The defense actually has to respond. But there's no way that you can tell me last night and watching the forty nine Ers and Bills that they had their full arsenal of their offense. That is not the point at all about how many points were scored. It's just that Buffalo handled the conditions way better than San Francisco did, and San Francisco also lost their star running back because of it. Yeah, so I played a part in it. Weather wasn't a factor in Baltimore yesterday. Justin Tucker was a factor the Ravens kicker missing two field goals plus an extra point, and the Ravens end up losing to Philadelphia by the way, Monci in a game that I was sure and Carrie Rhodes, we were all together yesterday. I met you and Carrie here on Red Zone Radio talking about that game. We both were convinced this is a game for the Ravens to win. They end up falling twenty four to nineteen. Ravens scored a late touchdown to make it look closer, but the Justin Tucker problems continue in Baltimore.

Yeah, it's really unfortunate to see because he was so clutch for so long, record holding field goal in a game. They gave him an extension and they made them the high paid kicker for a reason deservedly. So he's won so many games for the Ravens and it just sucks to see. But there is what feels like a high level of expectation for these kickers in the league now, like now you're just expected to be automatic from fifty yards or more.

Yeah, it's really unfortunate to see because he was so clutch for so long, record holding field goal in a game. They gave him an extension and they made them the high paid kicker for a reason deservedly. So he's won so many games for the Ravens and it just sucks to see. But there is what feels like a high level of expectation for these kickers in the league now, like now you're just expected to be automatic from fifty yards or more.

And I know he missed an extra point, which is that should be automatic, of course, but I feel like.

And I know he missed an extra point, which is that should be automatic, of course, but I feel like.

Just teams are expecting their kickers to do so much as of Elate, and that's not necessarily I think the way to go here.

Just teams are expecting their kickers to do so much as of Elate, and that's not necessarily I think the way to go here.

I think he's a victim of his own success. Yeah, because of how good he was and I mean considered by many to be the greatest kicker we've ever seen in the National Football League. This was John Harbaugh after the loss of the Eagles talking about his veteran kicker.

I think he's a victim of his own success. Yeah, because of how good he was and I mean considered by many to be the greatest kicker we've ever seen in the National Football League. This was John Harbaugh after the loss of the Eagles talking about his veteran kicker.

We've been working through it. I mean, you work through with every single player, every single thing. You fight to try to help guys to be successful, you know, So we'll do that. I mean, if you're asking me, ever, we're going to move out from Justin Tucker, I'm not really planning on doing that right now. I don't think that'd be wise. But you know, he'll tell you. He'll be the first to tell you he's got to make he needs to make make kicks as he can. And I had to think if you look at Justin Tucker's history, you'd have to say he's capable of doing that. That's that's something that he's going to want to do, and I know we're all going to want him to do.

We've been working through it. I mean, you work through with every single player, every single thing. You fight to try to help guys to be successful, you know, So we'll do that. I mean, if you're asking me, ever, we're going to move out from Justin Tucker, I'm not really planning on doing that right now. I don't think that'd be wise. But you know, he'll tell you. He'll be the first to tell you he's got to make he needs to make make kicks as he can. And I had to think if you look at Justin Tucker's history, you'd have to say he's capable of doing that. That's that's something that he's going to want to do, and I know we're all going to want him to do.

It if the games on the line, would you have any trepidation of him making a kick? No, neither.

It if the games on the line, would you have any trepidation of him making a kick? No, neither.

I would send him out there.

I would send him out there.

And I would also say this to John harbass point, you can't make a change because who are you going to get that's better than Justin Tucker. Who are you going to get that you trust more than Justin Tucker right now?

And I would also say this to John harbass point, you can't make a change because who are you going to get that's better than Justin Tucker. Who are you going to get that you trust more than Justin Tucker right now?

Who's been in those situations?

Who's been in those situations?

Yeah, for absolutely. Plus I'd rather fall with the guy that has been with us for so long than to bring someone in off the streets they kicked in the XFL or the UFL, whatever they're calling it now, and bring him in and make him be in that situation where I mean, there's there's a reason like if you can kick, you likely have a job in the National Football League right now. And I'm not taking it away from Justin Tucker just because he's having his worst season of his long career, which dates back all the way back to gosh, more than a decade, back to twenty twelve. You can't make the change now, you can't make the change in the future. You're kind of stuck with it. What you have to do is you have to realize your limitations your expectations. Justin Tucker is not going to be automatic now from fifty yards he missed the forty seven and a fifty three yard Or maybe you get in a little bit closer. You've got Lamar Jackson, you've got Derek Henry, You've got these weapons. Maybe now you're going for it more and fourth down situations because you don't have that advantage. They're not awful, even though he's been bad this season. It's their advantage of Justin Tucker has now been negated. So it's maybe pulled them back a little bit. When you have a great field goal kicker, it can give you a lot of advantages that other teams have. The raiments no longer have that advantage. But there's no reason to get rid of Justin Tucker.

Yeah, for absolutely. Plus I'd rather fall with the guy that has been with us for so long than to bring someone in off the streets they kicked in the XFL or the UFL, whatever they're calling it now, and bring him in and make him be in that situation where I mean, there's there's a reason like if you can kick, you likely have a job in the National Football League right now. And I'm not taking it away from Justin Tucker just because he's having his worst season of his long career, which dates back all the way back to gosh, more than a decade, back to twenty twelve. You can't make the change now, you can't make the change in the future. You're kind of stuck with it. What you have to do is you have to realize your limitations your expectations. Justin Tucker is not going to be automatic now from fifty yards he missed the forty seven and a fifty three yard Or maybe you get in a little bit closer. You've got Lamar Jackson, you've got Derek Henry, You've got these weapons. Maybe now you're going for it more and fourth down situations because you don't have that advantage. They're not awful, even though he's been bad this season. It's their advantage of Justin Tucker has now been negated. So it's maybe pulled them back a little bit. When you have a great field goal kicker, it can give you a lot of advantages that other teams have. The raiments no longer have that advantage. But there's no reason to get rid of Justin Tucker.

Junger rid of Justin Tucker because I truly don't think he's broken. I think he's in a slump, and maybe that was the end of the slump. And in a couple weeks we're going to be like, oh, he has not missed a kick since that one game.

Junger rid of Justin Tucker because I truly don't think he's broken. I think he's in a slump, and maybe that was the end of the slump. And in a couple weeks we're going to be like, oh, he has not missed a kick since that one game.

It wouldn't surprise me if we're saying that in a couple of weeks.

It wouldn't surprise me if we're saying that in a couple of weeks.

He's forty two of forty four on extra points this year, so he's missed two extra points, but missed one last year, missed one the year before. He goes out the rest of the way, those numbers are going to be odd. It's the long ones. It's four of nine from fifty plus that is last year was just one of five. That's the sort of spot now where you're like, Okay, maybe we have to go for it on.

He's forty two of forty four on extra points this year, so he's missed two extra points, but missed one last year, missed one the year before. He goes out the rest of the way, those numbers are going to be odd. It's the long ones. It's four of nine from fifty plus that is last year was just one of five. That's the sort of spot now where you're like, Okay, maybe we have to go for it on.

Four thousand, and it's because of him that now we see kickers going for sixty eight yards. Yes, it's because of it as he did it, I know, but we're gon, we're gonna it's going to keep getting pushed because of how great he has been.

Four thousand, and it's because of him that now we see kickers going for sixty eight yards. Yes, it's because of it as he did it, I know, but we're gon, we're gonna it's going to keep getting pushed because of how great he has been.

So no, you don't get rid of him.

So no, you don't get rid of him.

I love seeing a sixty eight yard field goal attempt, but it's not going to happen outside in Foxborough in early December, the Patriots gave it a shot yesterday.

I love seeing a sixty eight yard field goal attempt, but it's not going to happen outside in Foxborough in early December, the Patriots gave it a shot yesterday.

It looks so good.

It looks so good.

It was right down the middle, uh joey slide. He was a heck of a try. It was a good brim right down the middle. There was hope.

It was right down the middle, uh joey slide. He was a heck of a try. It was a good brim right down the middle. There was hope.

Everybody was like, oh my goodness, this may actually do and the NFL.

Everybody was like, oh my goodness, this may actually do and the NFL.

Six yards short. But again no no blame to Joey Slis. I'm damn. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. How did the Patriots end up in that situation where they needed to kick a sixty eight yard field goal? It's actually one of the better stories in the National Football League. We'll talk about it next year on Fox Sports Radio.

Six yards short. But again no no blame to Joey Slis. I'm damn. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. How did the Patriots end up in that situation where they needed to kick a sixty eight yard field goal? It's actually one of the better stories in the National Football League. We'll talk about it next year on Fox Sports Radio.

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Big deal, little deal, no deal.

Big deal, little deal, no deal.

Well, yesterday, Indianapolis Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson pulled out his second come from behind win with a game winning drive and game winning touchdown in the final minute of the fourth quarter. Anthony Richardson's recent comeback proclivities big deal, little deal or no deal.

Well, yesterday, Indianapolis Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson pulled out his second come from behind win with a game winning drive and game winning touchdown in the final minute of the fourth quarter. Anthony Richardson's recent comeback proclivities big deal, little deal or no deal.

I think it's a big deal because it solidifies and almost verifies the comeback that he had a couple of weeks ago against the Jets. And it also shows for those that were so critical of the Colts, let the record show I was not one of them, Manzi. I'm fine with them figuring it out. They've got a couple of years to figure it out with Anthony Richardson, and guess what, maybe he is starting to figure it out. Guess what, maybe all of a sudden we're finding out that Anthony Richardson, at least really good under pressure, had a rough week in Res twelve against the Lions, but bounces back and ends up leading his team against the Winlan. I think it's a really big deal.