Dom Giordano talks with Attorney Bill McSwain about the problem with sanctuary city policies and explains how apologists for sanctuary cities contribute to the problem. McSwain talks about how trust between the community and the police is built and the problem with favoritism toward illegal immigrants living in Philadelphia. McSwain explains the importance of setting up the proper incentives for people to follow the law and also comments the direction of crime metrics. Plus, McSwain talks about the focus on the "Krasner effect" and questions how to reverse this trend.