For 15 years I've been trying to figure out how to stem the tide of suicides taking my teammates — and today's guest is on the front line of that fight. Jonathan Dickinson is the CEO and co-founder of Ambio Life Sciences, the world's leading ibogaine clinic, and this conversation gave me more genuine hope than anything I've encountered.

What you'll hear:

• David breaks down why he calls this the most meaningful episode in show history

• Jonathan explains the Stanford study published in Nature Medicine — and the 88% reduction in PTSD symptoms

• Why the "signature wound" of the GWOT era was brain damage misread as PTSD

• What ibogaine actually restores: "a choice where you didn't have a choice before"

• How Ambio protects a sacred Gabonese tradition while scaling from 4 patients a week to 40

• The April 2026 executive order that moved this medicine from the underground to the White House

Jonathan Dickinson is a Mexico-licensed psychologist with 15+ years working with ibogaine in clinical and ceremonial contexts. His book, "Ibogaine and the Bicameral Mind," releases September 8 — preorder at jonathandickinson.ca.



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🕘 Timestamps:

00:00 – Preview

00:30 – The Stanford study: what magnesium–ibogaine did to 30 operators

08:11 – It was never just PTSD: blast waves and the brain

14:08 – Addiction, agency, and "a choice where you didn't have a choice"

22:39 – Identity, transition & why people die when they retire

26:38 – Protecting the ritual while scaling

31:55 – Malta: Europe's first physician-led ibogaine clinic

34:57 – The executive order, new clinics & the risks

40:28 – Gabon, Bwiti & the Nagoya Protocol

44:24 – The bicameral mind, SSRI's, subjectivity

53:10 – Writing the book & stewarding the medicine

59:34 – How to support Ambio + book preorder

For 15 years I've been trying to figure out how to stem the tide of suicides taking my teammates &mdash; and today's guest is on the front line of that fight. Jonathan Dickinson is the CEO and co-founder of Ambio Life Sciences, the world's leading ibogaine clinic, and this conversation gave me more genuine hope than anything I've encountered.
What you'll hear:
&bull; David breaks down why he calls this the most meaningful episode in show history
&bull; Jonathan explains the Stanford study published in Nature Medicine &mdash; and the 88% reduction in PTSD symptoms
&bull; Why the "signature wound" of the GWOT era was brain damage misread as PTSD
&bull; What ibogaine actually restores: "a choice where you didn't have a choice before"
&bull; How Ambio protects a sacred Gabonese tradition while scaling from 4 patients a week to 40
&bull; The April 2026 executive order that moved this medicine from the underground to the White House
Jonathan Dickinson is a Mexico-licensed psychologist with 15+ years working with ibogaine in clinical and ceremonial contexts. His book, "Ibogaine and the Bicameral Mind," releases September 8 &mdash; preorder at jonathandickinson.ca. 
✅ Sponsors: ☕️ Black Rifle Coffee: <a href="https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/">https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/</a>
🏫 Get coaching by David Rutherford: <a href="https://www.froglogicinstitute.com/">https://www.froglogicinstitute.com/</a> 🕘 Timestamps:
00:00 &ndash; Preview
00:30 &ndash; The Stanford study: what magnesium&ndash;ibogaine did to 30 operators
08:11 &ndash; It was never just PTSD: blast waves and the brain
14:08 &ndash; Addiction, agency, and "a choice where you didn't have a choice"
22:39 &ndash; Identity, transition &amp; why people die when they retire
26:38 &ndash; Protecting the ritual while scaling
31:55 &ndash; Malta: Europe's first physician-led ibogaine clinic
34:57 &ndash; The executive order, new clinics &amp; the risks
40:28 &ndash; Gabon, Bwiti &amp; the Nagoya Protocol
44:24 &ndash; The bicameral mind, SSRI's, subjectivity
53:10 &ndash; Writing the book &amp; stewarding the medicine
59:34 &ndash; How to support Ambio + book preorder

The David Rutherford Show represents the highest form of the emerging new media landscape. As a former Navy SEAL, CIA contractor, and world championship performance coach, David has been exploring the human condition for the past 30 years in his epic quest to understand how individuals and teams can defeat the negative insurgency. In his new show David will give experienced analysis to most pressing topics of our time. His mission is to consolidate the battlefield of information and provide unique context to most important issues of the day. Don’t miss this exciting show and allow David to be your flash bang of truth. 

The David Rutherford Show represents the highest form of the emerging new media landscape. As a former Navy SEAL, CIA contractor, and world championship performance coach, David has been exploring the human condition for the past 30 years in his epic quest to understand how individuals and teams can defeat the negative insurgency. In his new show David will give experienced analysis to most pressing topics of our time. His mission is to consolidate the battlefield of information and provide unique context to most important issues of the day. Don&rsquo;t miss this exciting show and allow David to be your flash bang of truth.&nbsp;

The David Rutherford Show

David Rutherford Show: Ibogaine - Saving Navy SEALs, PTSD & The 88% Result

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