David Rutherford sits back down with Clay Martin to dig into what's actually killing operators now that the wars are winding down, and what Clay is building in the mountains of Idaho to fix it. Clay just crossed the one-year mark on his veterans' healing retreat — a psilocybin sacrament program run through a church framework in Idaho, designed to give combat vets access to psychedelic-assisted healing without leaving the country.

You'll hear why Clay believes this model works where the VA has failed, how the spiritual dimension of healing is inseparable from the clinical one, and why the most battle-tested guys in the SOF community are vouching for it. Then David and Clay take stock of America at 250: the operator suicide rate that isn't going down, the Five Eyes agreement's dark inversion, the collapse of election integrity norms, Elon and Tucker signaling a third party, and Gen Z as the potential inflection generation that finally breaks the cycle. Clay Martin is a retired Army Ranger, bestselling author, and founder of a veteran healing ministry in Idaho.

🕘 Timestamps:

00:00 - America 250th Celebrations

03:53 - Clay's Church & Healing Vets With Psychedelics

30:14 - The State of America

33:12 - Insane US Intel Agreement

42:43 - Elections & Corruption

46:20 - Third Parties, Elon Musk, & What Can Be Done

56:32 - Boomers & The Gen Z Revolution