Death investigator Joseph Scott Morgan has spent 40 years in living rooms telling families their child is dead — and he's here to warn David Rutherford that death has become entertainment.

Twenty-five years after 9/11 unified a country, the Charlie Kirk assassination and the Lindsay Clancy trial are dividing one. Joe explains why the same public that once vomited at terrorist execution videos now scrolls past them, why "closure" is a lie he refuses to say to grieving families, and the disturbing pattern he's seeing in the murder cases crossing his desk.

David breaks down what Lt. Col. Dave Grossman's "killology" research found about desensitization, why he believes the men online begging for a civil war have never smelled what they're asking for, and how the hate he carried into Afghanistan almost killed him — and what actually saved him.

Joseph Scott Morgan is a veteran death investigator, Distinguished Scholar of Applied Forensics at Jacksonville State University, host of the Body Bags podcast, a regular forensic analyst for Nancy Grace, and author of the memoir Blood Beneath My Feet. He is one of the most-cited forensic voices on the Charlie Kirk case.

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