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So wild night last night, as the Knicks come back beat the Celtics and Boston misses forty five three pointers forty five out of sixty. The Nuggets beat the Thunder and Joker goes for forty two and twenty two. Me go back to the Knicks because I thought they were in trouble down twenty and Boston didn't change its philosophy. They weren't hitting shots, but they were still leading. And then you kept wondering, do they go inside? Do you maybe take a two at one point? Do you try to go to the free throw line? Just something that will break up the rhythm of missing all these three pointers. Well that didn't happen. But the Knicks come back from twenty down, and that rally is the biggest postseason comeback in franchise history. But Boston had to help sixty three pointers, that's the most ever an NBA playoff game, and missing forty five of the sixty that's obviously the most in an NBA playoff game as well. But I was curious about the second half. Thirty seven of the forty nine shots Boston took in the second half and overtime three pointers. They went ten for thirty seven on those shots. And at some point I have to go against the analytics. Now I know Boston. Look, they had uncontested shots, they were missing threes. They're not going to miss these shots throughout this series. But at some point I want to see some kind of alteration. I want an adjustment there. How about you go for a two. How about you instruct your players to maybe run something inside and not just perimeter jumpers. Here they are really good three point shooting team, but when you're not that then there has to be a point where you go, Okay, maybe we should stop shooting threes. It's not our night. But they never got to that point. Now you're going to have game to do. I think Boston's philosophy is going to be the same, absolutely, But can the Knicks play better? I think, you know, if Boston hits two more threes, they win this game. I don't think the Knicks played a perfect game. I think they hung in there. Brunson had a chance to win it with a layup in regulation. Og and Nnobi. I mean they had the guys. These are the guys that they brought in Ridges they brought them in to beat Boston. This happens a lot of times in pro sports, where you go, Okay, we got to beat that team. How do we beat that team? We got to get players and that was their sole focus. We got to beat them. How do we match up with them? And last night the Knicks did a really good job of staying in and having composure here. Because you're down twenty on the road, you're probably going, all right, we'll chalk this up.

So wild night last night, as the Knicks come back beat the Celtics and Boston misses forty five three pointers forty five out of sixty. The Nuggets beat the Thunder and Joker goes for forty two and twenty two. Me go back to the Knicks because I thought they were in trouble down twenty and Boston didn't change its philosophy. They weren't hitting shots, but they were still leading. And then you kept wondering, do they go inside? Do you maybe take a two at one point? Do you try to go to the free throw line? Just something that will break up the rhythm of missing all these three pointers. Well that didn't happen. But the Knicks come back from twenty down, and that rally is the biggest postseason comeback in franchise history. But Boston had to help sixty three pointers, that's the most ever an NBA playoff game, and missing forty five of the sixty that's obviously the most in an NBA playoff game as well. But I was curious about the second half. Thirty seven of the forty nine shots Boston took in the second half and overtime three pointers. They went ten for thirty seven on those shots. And at some point I have to go against the analytics. Now I know Boston. Look, they had uncontested shots, they were missing threes. They're not going to miss these shots throughout this series. But at some point I want to see some kind of alteration. I want an adjustment there. How about you go for a two. How about you instruct your players to maybe run something inside and not just perimeter jumpers. Here they are really good three point shooting team, but when you're not that then there has to be a point where you go, Okay, maybe we should stop shooting threes. It's not our night. But they never got to that point. Now you're going to have game to do. I think Boston's philosophy is going to be the same, absolutely, But can the Knicks play better? I think, you know, if Boston hits two more threes, they win this game. I don't think the Knicks played a perfect game. I think they hung in there. Brunson had a chance to win it with a layup in regulation. Og and Nnobi. I mean they had the guys. These are the guys that they brought in Ridges they brought them in to beat Boston. This happens a lot of times in pro sports, where you go, Okay, we got to beat that team. How do we beat that team? We got to get players and that was their sole focus. We got to beat them. How do we match up with them? And last night the Knicks did a really good job of staying in and having composure here. Because you're down twenty on the road, you're probably going, all right, we'll chalk this up.

It's a loss, we'll come back.

It's a loss, we'll come back.

I mean, even Denver, I thought a quick turnaround either be really close or really ugly, and I was leaning towards Okac. They were a nine and a half point favorite. They were gonna blow out the Nuggets. But then that young team sitting there resting waiting. Meanwhile Denver a quick turnaround and they surprise Oka See and Joker. I know this is going to be a referendum on well see, who should be the MVP. Shay Giljos Alexander is going to be the MVP, and he should be because of what he did during the regular season. But there's a pattern that has developed between these two teams. So the Nuggets come back from fourteen down the thunder at blown double digit leads three times against Denver this season. Stat of the Day brought to you by Media America. So they lost those three games to Denver and they blew double digit leads to them. Denver's a good team, smart team, and you have guys who can make plays. Now, I didn't think Aaron Gordon was going to be the guy at the buzzer with a three pointer, but Chad Holmgren missed a couple of free throws. He was late trying to close out Aaron Gordon. Gordon is actually percentage wise a good three point shooter, but you had Joker who kept him in the game, putting up monster numbers there. And you know, keep in mind the Pacers already beat the Cavaliers. What are the odds that Golden State could complete the opening round sweep for road teams as they're a seven point underdog against the Timberwolves. All right, Seaton, what's the pole question today? Got a couple options here for you. Well, we could start with will the Nicks win another game in this series?

I mean, even Denver, I thought a quick turnaround either be really close or really ugly, and I was leaning towards Okac. They were a nine and a half point favorite. They were gonna blow out the Nuggets. But then that young team sitting there resting waiting. Meanwhile Denver a quick turnaround and they surprise Oka See and Joker. I know this is going to be a referendum on well see, who should be the MVP. Shay Giljos Alexander is going to be the MVP, and he should be because of what he did during the regular season. But there's a pattern that has developed between these two teams. So the Nuggets come back from fourteen down the thunder at blown double digit leads three times against Denver this season. Stat of the Day brought to you by Media America. So they lost those three games to Denver and they blew double digit leads to them. Denver's a good team, smart team, and you have guys who can make plays. Now, I didn't think Aaron Gordon was going to be the guy at the buzzer with a three pointer, but Chad Holmgren missed a couple of free throws. He was late trying to close out Aaron Gordon. Gordon is actually percentage wise a good three point shooter, but you had Joker who kept him in the game, putting up monster numbers there. And you know, keep in mind the Pacers already beat the Cavaliers. What are the odds that Golden State could complete the opening round sweep for road teams as they're a seven point underdog against the Timberwolves. All right, Seaton, what's the pole question today? Got a couple options here for you. Well, we could start with will the Nicks win another game in this series?

Yes? Or no?

Yes? Or no?

Gentlemen, sleep my sweep?

Gentlemen, sleep my sweep?

Okay, Paulie said dover, which team will advance? Knicks Nuggets are neither. Okay, that's kind of fun, Nick Nuggets neither.

Okay, Paulie said dover, which team will advance? Knicks Nuggets are neither. Okay, that's kind of fun, Nick Nuggets neither.

Todd sent this to me. Who had a better night, Jalen Brunson or Aaron Gordon. Well, I would say Aaron Gordon hit the game winning shot. I mean, the Knicks had a great night. Aaron Gordon's had a really good month, Yes, Todd.

Todd sent this to me. Who had a better night, Jalen Brunson or Aaron Gordon. Well, I would say Aaron Gordon hit the game winning shot. I mean, the Knicks had a great night. Aaron Gordon's had a really good month, Yes, Todd.

But I find it fascinating on how you you know, how you would decide what would be the you know, you know, a moment obviously wins the game, so you think that's the obvious one. But then in a huge game and a huge series on the road, to see what Jalen Brunson did, and it kept popping three up to three and brings him back from twenty points, and at least an argument can be made that through the course of the game for each of those two games, that you can would say Jalen.

But I find it fascinating on how you you know, how you would decide what would be the you know, you know, a moment obviously wins the game, so you think that's the obvious one. But then in a huge game and a huge series on the road, to see what Jalen Brunson did, and it kept popping three up to three and brings him back from twenty points, and at least an argument can be made that through the course of the game for each of those two games, that you can would say Jalen.

Brunton, All right, I would say Aaron Gordon hit the game winning shot.

Brunton, All right, I would say Aaron Gordon hit the game winning shot.

That's what makes it interesting, all right, thank you?

That's what makes it interesting, all right, thank you?

It is it felt like Jalen Brunton had just won the game and then then lost it almost immediately right after. Yes, it felt like that was man that needed to go in because there's no way that the Knicks are going to be able to keep the Celtics back.

It is it felt like Jalen Brunton had just won the game and then then lost it almost immediately right after. Yes, it felt like that was man that needed to go in because there's no way that the Knicks are going to be able to keep the Celtics back.

He's so good at creating space because he's not a big guy, but he takes on contact. He just is really good at knowing what he does well. And I think that there's a lot of guys who have talent, they just don't know what they really do well, and they try to do too much. I think Anthony Edwards sometimes colors outside the lines a little bit there, like he tries to do too much and because he's got all of that god given ability. But Brunson, I think he's just so good at knowing I do this really really well, and I'm not trying to do other things here. But what other pole questions are we looking at? First hour?

He's so good at creating space because he's not a big guy, but he takes on contact. He just is really good at knowing what he does well. And I think that there's a lot of guys who have talent, they just don't know what they really do well, and they try to do too much. I think Anthony Edwards sometimes colors outside the lines a little bit there, like he tries to do too much and because he's got all of that god given ability. But Brunson, I think he's just so good at knowing I do this really really well, and I'm not trying to do other things here. But what other pole questions are we looking at? First hour?

Yeah, I think we go which team will advance? We could also look to the west as well. Maybe we could split it up East and West if you want to do that. I think we'll focus on the NBA playoffs.

Yeah, I think we go which team will advance? We could also look to the west as well. Maybe we could split it up East and West if you want to do that. I think we'll focus on the NBA playoffs.

Right by the way, here is Jalen Brunson on his team down twenty.

Right by the way, here is Jalen Brunson on his team down twenty.

Toy saw this keep believing and just keep firing, sticking together and keep tripping away. Now, wasn't Is it going to be a twenty point shot where you can just come back. We got to keep chip away possession by possession and then just finally keep getting stops and making post offensive one as.

Toy saw this keep believing and just keep firing, sticking together and keep tripping away. Now, wasn't Is it going to be a twenty point shot where you can just come back. We got to keep chip away possession by possession and then just finally keep getting stops and making post offensive one as.

Well, Okay, and also hoping the Celtics continuing to miss three pointers. I have According to DraftKings the updated NBA title odds, the thunder is still the favorites, then the Celtics, followed by the Calves, and then a distant forth the Timberwolves, and then even further down the list, the Nuggets and Warriors are tied at plus eighteen hundred thunder R plus one seventy five Celtics plus two ten Calves plus five hundred Timberwolves plus eleven hundred. Okay, so phone calls are welcome. We'll get to those. Email addrests DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show.

Well, Okay, and also hoping the Celtics continuing to miss three pointers. I have According to DraftKings the updated NBA title odds, the thunder is still the favorites, then the Celtics, followed by the Calves, and then a distant forth the Timberwolves, and then even further down the list, the Nuggets and Warriors are tied at plus eighteen hundred thunder R plus one seventy five Celtics plus two ten Calves plus five hundred Timberwolves plus eleven hundred. Okay, so phone calls are welcome. We'll get to those. Email addrests DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show.

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Yes, Pauline, I want to go back to what you said about the Celtics. They're missing all those threes, and should Joe Miszula say all right, time out, let's take it the whole reset a little bit. I wonder if analytics overrules him, because I would think the analytics would say, let's keep shooting because we're due to make based off our history. They lead the league this season in three point attempts forty eight per game. By far, they led the league in three point makes. I wonder if analytics told them, don't stop, keep shooting. It will work itself out.

Yes, Pauline, I want to go back to what you said about the Celtics. They're missing all those threes, and should Joe Miszula say all right, time out, let's take it the whole reset a little bit. I wonder if analytics overrules him, because I would think the analytics would say, let's keep shooting because we're due to make based off our history. They lead the league this season in three point attempts forty eight per game. By far, they led the league in three point makes. I wonder if analytics told them, don't stop, keep shooting. It will work itself out.

But at what point do you say, it's not our night, Like there has to be a point of no return.

But at what point do you say, it's not our night, Like there has to be a point of no return.

But I wonder if.

But I wonder if.

Coaches are taught now to not fight analytics, not go with their gut, because analytics is a removal of gut. And I wonder if Joe Miszula says, Nope, don't do it, stick with it, stick with it, stick with it.

Coaches are taught now to not fight analytics, not go with their gut, because analytics is a removal of gut. And I wonder if Joe Miszula says, Nope, don't do it, stick with it, stick with it, stick with it.

Well, I believe that you have to go with your gut sometimes, like if you go by just the numbers. I mean, I see baseball. You know managers they outmanage themselves, they out think themselves instead of going with this up. Now, how's he throwing? And he's throwing grape. No, he's throwing sixty one pitches. He's got to come out, man, he's throwing pretty pretty well skipped I know he's got to come out. I just want to break up the rhythm. I got to get points. And if it's a free throw, two free throws, maybe it's just a mid range jumper. I just have to get something to break this skid that we're on. That that would be my approach if I'm playing or if I'm coaching, Let's just get something.

Well, I believe that you have to go with your gut sometimes, like if you go by just the numbers. I mean, I see baseball. You know managers they outmanage themselves, they out think themselves instead of going with this up. Now, how's he throwing? And he's throwing grape. No, he's throwing sixty one pitches. He's got to come out, man, he's throwing pretty pretty well skipped I know he's got to come out. I just want to break up the rhythm. I got to get points. And if it's a free throw, two free throws, maybe it's just a mid range jumper. I just have to get something to break this skid that we're on. That that would be my approach if I'm playing or if I'm coaching, Let's just get something.

Yes, but don't you kind of see that, like, all right, yeah, he's pitching, and he's had sixty pitches, and you have this data in front of you that says as soon as he hits sixty one pitches, he usually falls off a cliff. I would don't you look at that and be like, pull him out.

Yes, but don't you kind of see that, like, all right, yeah, he's pitching, and he's had sixty pitches, and you have this data in front of you that says as soon as he hits sixty one pitches, he usually falls off a cliff. I would don't you look at that and be like, pull him out.

I watch Aaron Boone mismanaged games all the time because it feels like he is just married to analytics. I now pronounce you manager and wife, and I have a problem with that. But look, I'm old school. I do accept analytics. I think that we're beholden to analytics, and we're like, we hold on because you can go to a press conference and you can say, well, the numbers were on our side. There the numbers show that we you know, I should pull this pitcher or we should keep shooting threes.

I watch Aaron Boone mismanaged games all the time because it feels like he is just married to analytics. I now pronounce you manager and wife, and I have a problem with that. But look, I'm old school. I do accept analytics. I think that we're beholden to analytics, and we're like, we hold on because you can go to a press conference and you can say, well, the numbers were on our side. There the numbers show that we you know, I should pull this pitcher or we should keep shooting threes.

I understand that it's a great excuse.

I understand that it's a great excuse.

I just I think there has to be a feel that you have with your team Sometimes. Ben, maybe that's just the old school in me, but I understand what you're saying. Yes, it says after sixty one pitches, then all of a sudden, the batting average goes up to three eighty.

I just I think there has to be a feel that you have with your team Sometimes. Ben, maybe that's just the old school in me, but I understand what you're saying. Yes, it says after sixty one pitches, then all of a sudden, the batting average goes up to three eighty.

Seven, seven times out of ten. It works out this way.

Seven, seven times out of ten. It works out this way.

You have to have a tremendous amount of belief in your gut and your intuition to say, yeah, but this is probably the eighth time or whatever.

You have to have a tremendous amount of belief in your gut and your intuition to say, yeah, but this is probably the eighth time or whatever.

You know.

You know.

But if I say to my catcher that's all I care about how he throwing now, he might say, uh, you know what, time to take him out? Or you know what, they're not even coming close. Now I can say to my my pitcher, I'm gonna leave you in for one I'm gonna let you get out of this gym.

But if I say to my catcher that's all I care about how he throwing now, he might say, uh, you know what, time to take him out? Or you know what, they're not even coming close. Now I can say to my my pitcher, I'm gonna leave you in for one I'm gonna let you get out of this gym.

I'm gonna leave you in for one more.

I'm gonna leave you in for one more.

Better.

Better.

That's just feel and trusting your players. That's the only thing that I would argue or push back on that. Joe Mizzoula knows we do this really well. Okay, at what point are we not doing this. Well, we've had open looks too. That's the crazy part. They're not going to shoot this poorly the rest of the series. But then I expect the Knicks to be a little better as well.

That's just feel and trusting your players. That's the only thing that I would argue or push back on that. Joe Mizzoula knows we do this really well. Okay, at what point are we not doing this. Well, we've had open looks too. That's the crazy part. They're not going to shoot this poorly the rest of the series. But then I expect the Knicks to be a little better as well.

Yeah, Paulie, it seems like the NFL is still gut over analytics. We talk about fourth and ones and stuff, and you hear coaches from the Bills, well, fourth and one, you should do this, and they don't. It feels like NFL coaches do a little more gut than analytics and tight situation.

Yeah, Paulie, it seems like the NFL is still gut over analytics. We talk about fourth and ones and stuff, and you hear coaches from the Bills, well, fourth and one, you should do this, and they don't. It feels like NFL coaches do a little more gut than analytics and tight situation.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I think the younger coaching staffs, yes, are going with analytics. You know that, hey, this is what supposed to do in this situation. And then you're like really, you know Harball talks about this or Lafleur. You know, these younger coaches are like, yeah, we can go for this, yes, Marvin.

I think the younger coaching staffs, yes, are going with analytics. You know that, hey, this is what supposed to do in this situation. And then you're like really, you know Harball talks about this or Lafleur. You know, these younger coaches are like, yeah, we can go for this, yes, Marvin.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Going back to last night's game, if I'm a Celtics fan, I'm pulling my hair out because Jason Tatum had a one on one a couple of times with Brunson or Og and he could have gone straight to the rim, and he backed up maybe another five feet to take a step back three pointer. I'd have been pulling my hair out now. Normally he makes it, but like you said, last night was not their night.

Going back to last night's game, if I'm a Celtics fan, I'm pulling my hair out because Jason Tatum had a one on one a couple of times with Brunson or Og and he could have gone straight to the rim, and he backed up maybe another five feet to take a step back three pointer. I'd have been pulling my hair out now. Normally he makes it, but like you said, last night was not their night.

I don't want to make it easier for you to guard me if you know I'm not going to the hoop and I'm going to be on the perimeter. Now he has a height advantage, but still I know you're going to stay on the perimeter. It's such a huge advantage though, I think for the defense that you're you're not going to go inside, and that was that was what was surprising.

I don't want to make it easier for you to guard me if you know I'm not going to the hoop and I'm going to be on the perimeter. Now he has a height advantage, but still I know you're going to stay on the perimeter. It's such a huge advantage though, I think for the defense that you're you're not going to go inside, and that was that was what was surprising.

I just need to break up the rhythm here. Yeah, Pauline, I wonder what an analyst coach would have said. Jalen Brown missed his first nine threes over nine, then he hit one when he is over nine, would analytics tell you to tell him to stop shooting threes and takeing the wholen't.

I just need to break up the rhythm here. Yeah, Pauline, I wonder what an analyst coach would have said. Jalen Brown missed his first nine threes over nine, then he hit one when he is over nine, would analytics tell you to tell him to stop shooting threes and takeing the wholen't.

Yes, I would say go in there and get get found. Now that's gut.

Yes, I would say go in there and get get found. Now that's gut.

Yes, analytics have said Jalen Brown should keep shooting because based off his history, he's due to hit.

Yes, analytics have said Jalen Brown should keep shooting because based off his history, he's due to hit.

Paul I've never lost a playoff game in my lifetime. Okay, I've never coached one, but I've never lost one. I've defeated, Yes, so I know what I'm talking about now. I anytime that I struggled shooting, I would always think, just get free throws, like just stop whatever is happening. And I think the ability to be able to slow it down and don't let the Knicks get momentum or get that feeling of man, we're in this because you took away that feeling when they were down twenty. You took away their hope and then all of a sudden you'll allowed it to come back by missing all these shots and then all of a sudden Nicks are going, uh, we can.

Paul I've never lost a playoff game in my lifetime. Okay, I've never coached one, but I've never lost one. I've defeated, Yes, so I know what I'm talking about now. I anytime that I struggled shooting, I would always think, just get free throws, like just stop whatever is happening. And I think the ability to be able to slow it down and don't let the Knicks get momentum or get that feeling of man, we're in this because you took away that feeling when they were down twenty. You took away their hope and then all of a sudden you'll allowed it to come back by missing all these shots and then all of a sudden Nicks are going, uh, we can.

Win this game. Like the Nuggets.

Win this game. Like the Nuggets.

I'm watched, I go, okay, they can't stop Joker, all right, they're doing okay here, okay, all right, they're fouling. Okay, I don't know about that flaw. We can't uh Gordon ballgame and sort of how it happened.

I'm watched, I go, okay, they can't stop Joker, all right, they're doing okay here, okay, all right, they're fouling. Okay, I don't know about that flaw. We can't uh Gordon ballgame and sort of how it happened.

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Doc Emrick is a Hall of Famer and former lead play by play voice for NBC's NHL Coverage and now I don't know what kind of play by play you're doing in retirement. Are you doing any play by play in retirement?

Doc Emrick is a Hall of Famer and former lead play by play voice for NBC's NHL Coverage and now I don't know what kind of play by play you're doing in retirement. Are you doing any play by play in retirement?

Doc?

Doc?

Only describing dog walks and occasional visits to the grocery store. That's pretty much it.

Only describing dog walks and occasional visits to the grocery store. That's pretty much it.

Give me a little bit of that.

Give me a little bit of that.

There's milk. It expires on the twenty eighth of May. I oh, there's the first of June. I'm gonna take the first of June because it'll last longer.

There's milk. It expires on the twenty eighth of May. I oh, there's the first of June. I'm gonna take the first of June because it'll last longer.

Okay, all right, So if you're watching hockey, you're not doing play by play, No, no.

Okay, all right, So if you're watching hockey, you're not doing play by play, No, no.

But I'm sure enjoying it. My goodness, is it great. We've had some wonderful games to finish up the last round and it's just spectacular. And I guess I've grown spoiled. This is what we get every time at this year. It's why Charles Barkley always talks about sneaking behind the set when he's doing basketball and watching hockey. It's just engrossing. It's wonderful, and it's what the sport is all about.

But I'm sure enjoying it. My goodness, is it great. We've had some wonderful games to finish up the last round and it's just spectacular. And I guess I've grown spoiled. This is what we get every time at this year. It's why Charles Barkley always talks about sneaking behind the set when he's doing basketball and watching hockey. It's just engrossing. It's wonderful, and it's what the sport is all about.

But you get jealous when you look at these incredible finishes and like you wish you were doing it.

But you get jealous when you look at these incredible finishes and like you wish you were doing it.

No, No, I haven't regretted retirement once. I marvel at what the guys do that are describing games now, But the sport is so wonderful. I'm glad I had my years at it, forty seven in total, but I don't regret reach hiring the thing. When I was riding buses in the miners, the one thing that I looked forward to was the planes and the big hotels. And by the time the forty seven years was up and we were in COVID, the thing that I didn't particularly like were the planes and the hotels. So I had my time and it was wonderful. I have so many great memories. I met a lot of wonderful people, including yourself, and I'll never forget the day that I was with you and the dan Netes McLevin was in gold and I think it was Fritzy who shot on him. He had a broom. I believe somewhere in the archives there is tape of that. But those are memories that I have that I'll always cherish.

No, No, I haven't regretted retirement once. I marvel at what the guys do that are describing games now, But the sport is so wonderful. I'm glad I had my years at it, forty seven in total, but I don't regret reach hiring the thing. When I was riding buses in the miners, the one thing that I looked forward to was the planes and the big hotels. And by the time the forty seven years was up and we were in COVID, the thing that I didn't particularly like were the planes and the hotels. So I had my time and it was wonderful. I have so many great memories. I met a lot of wonderful people, including yourself, and I'll never forget the day that I was with you and the dan Netes McLevin was in gold and I think it was Fritzy who shot on him. He had a broom. I believe somewhere in the archives there is tape of that. But those are memories that I have that I'll always cherish.

How do you come to the point where you go, now, I'm going to retire because we see this with athletes. I'm going to retire from this job in three years. But you came to that decision did you come to that.

How do you come to the point where you go, now, I'm going to retire because we see this with athletes. I'm going to retire from this job in three years. But you came to that decision did you come to that.

Well, in any thing where you have a motor skill, which is in athletics as well, you like to make your move before somebody makes it for you. And fortunately with NBC, the hook was not out. But I had had fifty years covering the sport, and I did forty years at the NHL. And I think one thing too that COVID did was just before we took the break in February of twenty twenty, the league came out with rules that were very necessary where we couldn't have anyone between the benches, where we had to be six feet with a boom mic away from all the coaches and the players. We could not go into the dressing rooms anymore, and that was where the fun was for me, In addition to preparing and doing the games, was actually being able to learn something more about the players that I could share with somebody. And so all of those things sort of came to the foe at once. The numbers of forty and fifty were kind of round numbers that were even, and it seemed like a good time. I had so many great memories that it was. It was a great time to be out.

Well, in any thing where you have a motor skill, which is in athletics as well, you like to make your move before somebody makes it for you. And fortunately with NBC, the hook was not out. But I had had fifty years covering the sport, and I did forty years at the NHL. And I think one thing too that COVID did was just before we took the break in February of twenty twenty, the league came out with rules that were very necessary where we couldn't have anyone between the benches, where we had to be six feet with a boom mic away from all the coaches and the players. We could not go into the dressing rooms anymore, and that was where the fun was for me, In addition to preparing and doing the games, was actually being able to learn something more about the players that I could share with somebody. And so all of those things sort of came to the foe at once. The numbers of forty and fifty were kind of round numbers that were even, and it seemed like a good time. I had so many great memories that it was. It was a great time to be out.

I was going to ask you, what's the first thing to go on a play by play person and it sounds like your eyesight was the first thing to go.

I was going to ask you, what's the first thing to go on a play by play person and it sounds like your eyesight was the first thing to go.

Yeah, I think that would be probably true. You and I were together in London at the Olympics in twenty twelve, and the one thing that happened there was that I discovered, to my chagrin, when I was doing water polo, that I had cataracts, and so those were removed and my eyesight, of course immediately got better. But you realize that those are things that happened with age. But yeah, I don't know that my eyesight is going, but you realize that that does happen as you get older. But I think the thing with me was that the travel was starting to get to me and I wanted to be home more, and all of those things added up to make for the right decision and to get to watch these games now, and especially the finishes that we had in the Game Seven's were you know, the come from behind third periods in the Game sevens, as well as the come from behind almost tie last night in Toronto. Those are exciting and I do envy the guys that are doing the games now, but I wouldn't want to be there. They are having the time of their lives doing these games, and I'm glad for them.

Yeah, I think that would be probably true. You and I were together in London at the Olympics in twenty twelve, and the one thing that happened there was that I discovered, to my chagrin, when I was doing water polo, that I had cataracts, and so those were removed and my eyesight, of course immediately got better. But you realize that those are things that happened with age. But yeah, I don't know that my eyesight is going, but you realize that that does happen as you get older. But I think the thing with me was that the travel was starting to get to me and I wanted to be home more, and all of those things added up to make for the right decision and to get to watch these games now, and especially the finishes that we had in the Game Seven's were you know, the come from behind third periods in the Game sevens, as well as the come from behind almost tie last night in Toronto. Those are exciting and I do envy the guys that are doing the games now, but I wouldn't want to be there. They are having the time of their lives doing these games, and I'm glad for them.

Talking to Doc Emrick, a member of the NHL and Sports Broadcasting Hall of Fame, if I would have talked to you twenty years ago and I would have said to you, you know, Gretzky's goal scoring record is not safe, you would have said, what.

Talking to Doc Emrick, a member of the NHL and Sports Broadcasting Hall of Fame, if I would have talked to you twenty years ago and I would have said to you, you know, Gretzky's goal scoring record is not safe, you would have said, what.

You're wrong.

You're wrong.

I would have said, yeah. I would have said, I agree with you that it's I would I would have said it's safe. But then we we had Wayne Gretzky on at the All Star Game in Saint Louis five years ago and he was asked the question, can Ovechkin catch you? And he said yes. And here's why. He's on a good team that wins a lot of games, and he's healthy. He rarely gets hurt. This year he did, but to his credit, he came back a bulldozer and he wound up eclipsing the record in a marvelous ceremony that the NHL had on Long Island. But the other thing is too, the one thing that is often overlooked. He came into the League of bull in the China Shop and he would hammer players. He was often the league leader in hits, and he was again this year. He never stopped playing his game, and yet he was the greatest goalscorer of the modern era and now is the record goal scorer of all time. And a guy that came in I'll never forget the first time that we ever had him on our telecast in New Jersey. Of course, we wanted to interview Alex Ovechkin, and so he came in and politely sat down, and we had a technical difficulty on MSG network and we said, Alex, we're sorry, we can't do the interview. He said, no, you don't understand. I want to do the interview. And we told him, no, we can't. We've got a technical problem in the truck. We can't do it. And so he got up and left. But he really wanted to do everything the right way when he first came here.

I would have said, yeah. I would have said, I agree with you that it's I would I would have said it's safe. But then we we had Wayne Gretzky on at the All Star Game in Saint Louis five years ago and he was asked the question, can Ovechkin catch you? And he said yes. And here's why. He's on a good team that wins a lot of games, and he's healthy. He rarely gets hurt. This year he did, but to his credit, he came back a bulldozer and he wound up eclipsing the record in a marvelous ceremony that the NHL had on Long Island. But the other thing is too, the one thing that is often overlooked. He came into the League of bull in the China Shop and he would hammer players. He was often the league leader in hits, and he was again this year. He never stopped playing his game, and yet he was the greatest goalscorer of the modern era and now is the record goal scorer of all time. And a guy that came in I'll never forget the first time that we ever had him on our telecast in New Jersey. Of course, we wanted to interview Alex Ovechkin, and so he came in and politely sat down, and we had a technical difficulty on MSG network and we said, Alex, we're sorry, we can't do the interview. He said, no, you don't understand. I want to do the interview. And we told him, no, we can't. We've got a technical problem in the truck. We can't do it. And so he got up and left. But he really wanted to do everything the right way when he first came here.

If I said you can start your team with Ovechkin or Crosby.

If I said you can start your team with Ovechkin or Crosby.

I want them both because I want the playmaker and I want the goals.

I want them both because I want the playmaker and I want the goals.

Don okay Crosby, And here's why, because you do need goalscorers.

Don okay Crosby, And here's why, because you do need goalscorers.

I understand that. But Sid is the guy who is always going to be prepared to play first on last off is always going to be a playmaker and a guy that will lead by example. And that's not to say that Alex's captain does not. We saw what he did with Marc Andre Fleury and they were archrivals. Of course for a long time. He has led by example too. But here's an here's a story that showed what Alex has grown into, and it would make that on the rare on the total of years Sid has done this in Pittsburgh, but Alex has picked up that slack in the later years in Washington. I was talking with Barry Trotz before what turned out to be the last game that Washington would play before they won the Stanley Cup championship, and I said, can you retell a story that you told me earlier in the year about Ovechkin, And so he did, and so I did tell this at the end of the playoffs when Washington was winning the Stanley Cup. It was that summer before and the Capitals had disappointed again and Alex was getting married and Barry was invited, and so he went over to Moscow and attended the wedding. He was invited to the reception and Barry said, I'm not going to go to a reception with a bunch of my hockey players. I'll wait. So he had dinner with Alex shortly there after, and he said, Alex, I've got to talk to you seriously about what's coming ahead. There is a lot of unhappiness in Washington, and there are people who think it's your fault, and there are people who think that it's the fault of some of your teammates. And there is going to be change. You are going to have to train like you never trained before. You are going to have to be the first guy on the ice, and you are going to have to be this team's leader. It's not pleasant to think about, but that's what's ahead. That fall, he came in and scored seven goals in the first two games, and even though Washington fell behind in their playoff series, they were rallied and went ahead, and they went on and won the Stanley Cup. And he's been the great leader ever since. But Sid has been doing that ever since he came to Pittsburgh. And so when you forced me into that corner and the paint is still not dried, I choose Sid.

I understand that. But Sid is the guy who is always going to be prepared to play first on last off is always going to be a playmaker and a guy that will lead by example. And that's not to say that Alex's captain does not. We saw what he did with Marc Andre Fleury and they were archrivals. Of course for a long time. He has led by example too. But here's an here's a story that showed what Alex has grown into, and it would make that on the rare on the total of years Sid has done this in Pittsburgh, but Alex has picked up that slack in the later years in Washington. I was talking with Barry Trotz before what turned out to be the last game that Washington would play before they won the Stanley Cup championship, and I said, can you retell a story that you told me earlier in the year about Ovechkin, And so he did, and so I did tell this at the end of the playoffs when Washington was winning the Stanley Cup. It was that summer before and the Capitals had disappointed again and Alex was getting married and Barry was invited, and so he went over to Moscow and attended the wedding. He was invited to the reception and Barry said, I'm not going to go to a reception with a bunch of my hockey players. I'll wait. So he had dinner with Alex shortly there after, and he said, Alex, I've got to talk to you seriously about what's coming ahead. There is a lot of unhappiness in Washington, and there are people who think it's your fault, and there are people who think that it's the fault of some of your teammates. And there is going to be change. You are going to have to train like you never trained before. You are going to have to be the first guy on the ice, and you are going to have to be this team's leader. It's not pleasant to think about, but that's what's ahead. That fall, he came in and scored seven goals in the first two games, and even though Washington fell behind in their playoff series, they were rallied and went ahead, and they went on and won the Stanley Cup. And he's been the great leader ever since. But Sid has been doing that ever since he came to Pittsburgh. And so when you forced me into that corner and the paint is still not dried, I choose Sid.

What is it like when you know the game can end at any moment when when you get into sudden death overtime. So as a play by play guy, what you know, what is your game plan of how to call it so you're on time with it or a little bit ahead of the play as opposed to kind of cleaning up after that.

What is it like when you know the game can end at any moment when when you get into sudden death overtime. So as a play by play guy, what you know, what is your game plan of how to call it so you're on time with it or a little bit ahead of the play as opposed to kind of cleaning up after that.

Yeah, you have to be right on it and with that, and the referees tell me the same thing with that. You have to be on it. But boy, you've got to be right and you also have to be in control of your emotions so that you don't overdo it. This is about the players. It is not about yourself. It's not about signature calls or anything else. By the way, sidestep this for a minute. I need to pay tribute to the rect Freeze to handle Game seven because those games were thrilling because of them. They didn't want to be them in the way. They didn't have a steady parade to the penalty box because they were there on merit. They didn't leave that behind. And they were nervous too, I'll bet, and you get nervous before and overtime in a Stanley Cup Game seven. I've had some of those. But yeah, you need to be on top of it. You need to be right. And as I heard Larry Coleness, the caller of the Kentucky Derby interview, you can't have an eraser on your tongue. You can't take it back. And so all of those things go into making this kind of work exciting. And I always encourage young people who are interested in it to get into it and stay into it because it is certainly rewarding in a great way to make a living. By the way, those names are West McCauley, danil Roart, Jehanhee Bear and Gord Dwyer of the four guys and stripes that handled those games.

Yeah, you have to be right on it and with that, and the referees tell me the same thing with that. You have to be on it. But boy, you've got to be right and you also have to be in control of your emotions so that you don't overdo it. This is about the players. It is not about yourself. It's not about signature calls or anything else. By the way, sidestep this for a minute. I need to pay tribute to the rect Freeze to handle Game seven because those games were thrilling because of them. They didn't want to be them in the way. They didn't have a steady parade to the penalty box because they were there on merit. They didn't leave that behind. And they were nervous too, I'll bet, and you get nervous before and overtime in a Stanley Cup Game seven. I've had some of those. But yeah, you need to be on top of it. You need to be right. And as I heard Larry Coleness, the caller of the Kentucky Derby interview, you can't have an eraser on your tongue. You can't take it back. And so all of those things go into making this kind of work exciting. And I always encourage young people who are interested in it to get into it and stay into it because it is certainly rewarding in a great way to make a living. By the way, those names are West McCauley, danil Roart, Jehanhee Bear and Gord Dwyer of the four guys and stripes that handled those games.

What hockey name gave you fits.

What hockey name gave you fits.

Saragay them cheen off, and it sure shouldn't have. I was working with Bill Clement and we were doing and I kept saying them cheam off with an M. And he said, say, nemenof, nemnoff, nemenoff. You can do it, can't you? And I said, yeah, I can. And it came down to where I if I said that over and over again before the game, that it would it came out more right than wrong. But it's an imperfect science, isn't it. I mean, you guys have to talk three hours in the morning. And it's not totally perfect, I suppose, but I never did a perfect game. I mean you talk over and over all the time, and you do make mistakes, that's for sure.

Saragay them cheen off, and it sure shouldn't have. I was working with Bill Clement and we were doing and I kept saying them cheam off with an M. And he said, say, nemenof, nemnoff, nemenoff. You can do it, can't you? And I said, yeah, I can. And it came down to where I if I said that over and over again before the game, that it would it came out more right than wrong. But it's an imperfect science, isn't it. I mean, you guys have to talk three hours in the morning. And it's not totally perfect, I suppose, but I never did a perfect game. I mean you talk over and over all the time, and you do make mistakes, that's for sure.

We don't care about getting it right though, Doc. That's the difference between.

We don't care about getting it right though, Doc. That's the difference between.

But you do. Is am.

But you do. Is am.

I looking at the team that's going to be on Celebrity Family Feud? Is this the five?

I looking at the team that's going to be on Celebrity Family Feud? Is this the five?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Yeah, okay, you've chosen them.

Yeah, okay, you've chosen them.

Uh yeah, for better or for worse? Yes, any advice on Celebrity Family Feud?

Uh yeah, for better or for worse? Yes, any advice on Celebrity Family Feud?

No. I think you should rely on your experience. And that's my stat of the day. Oh the number is eighty nine. The experience that your team has going in I think will lead you to victory. You have twenty six years in June, Fritzy will have twenty three, Pauli has eighteen, Seaton has sixteen, and Marvin has six. That's a total of eighty nine. You rely on your experience, and I agree with what you said last week. You're there to entertain. I mean, it'd be nice if you could win, but the memory will come from entertaining who And in gut versus analytics coach, the coach that I would favor is you, because I think you're going to go on gut not analytics. Yeah, okay, you guys were talking last week about Yiannis and his poor free throw percentage. When I was growing up, I watched Wilk Chamberlain and he was terrible the foul line. I looked it up. He was fifty one percent, and I think you guys said that's about where Yannis was last week.

No. I think you should rely on your experience. And that's my stat of the day. Oh the number is eighty nine. The experience that your team has going in I think will lead you to victory. You have twenty six years in June, Fritzy will have twenty three, Pauli has eighteen, Seaton has sixteen, and Marvin has six. That's a total of eighty nine. You rely on your experience, and I agree with what you said last week. You're there to entertain. I mean, it'd be nice if you could win, but the memory will come from entertaining who And in gut versus analytics coach, the coach that I would favor is you, because I think you're going to go on gut not analytics. Yeah, okay, you guys were talking last week about Yiannis and his poor free throw percentage. When I was growing up, I watched Wilk Chamberlain and he was terrible the foul line. I looked it up. He was fifty one percent, and I think you guys said that's about where Yannis was last week.

Well, yeah, and somebody. I'm sure they tried, but it's it should be fluid. He doesn't have a fluid free throw. It's it stops. It's almost like a ladder unfolding, and that you just you got to make it start from your legs and go all the way up and follow through, you know, being a great free throw shooter that you are.

Well, yeah, and somebody. I'm sure they tried, but it's it should be fluid. He doesn't have a fluid free throw. It's it stops. It's almost like a ladder unfolding, and that you just you got to make it start from your legs and go all the way up and follow through, you know, being a great free throw shooter that you are.

Well, it's it's a new decade. So if I get to New York, it's best of three and we will try it yet again. I like that left hand bookshot that I see every so often. Is that like the Kareem skyhook.

Well, it's it's a new decade. So if I get to New York, it's best of three and we will try it yet again. I like that left hand bookshot that I see every so often. Is that like the Kareem skyhook.

That's fritzy.

That's fritzy.

Ah okay, I thought it was.

Ah okay, I thought it was.

You No no, no, no no, And I'll shoot blindfolded if you want to.

You No no, no, no no, And I'll shoot blindfolded if you want to.

Okay, yeah, as long as it's best of three because we've been postponing this now largely because of my logistics.

Okay, yeah, as long as it's best of three because we've been postponing this now largely because of my logistics.

But those are you're retired. I mean, there's a lot more excuses.

But those are you're retired. I mean, there's a lot more excuses.

You're right, right, you're absolutely right.

You're right, right, you're absolutely right.

All right, You're welcome to my dojo anytime you want to.

All right, You're welcome to my dojo anytime you want to.

Doc.

Doc.

Okay, all right, great to catch up with you again, thanks for joining you.

Okay, all right, great to catch up with you again, thanks for joining you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

That's the Hall of Famer Doc Emmery.

That's the Hall of Famer Doc Emmery.

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Gilbert arenas host of Gil's Arena podcast, and it is doing some big business. Just surpassed one million subscribers on Underdog and it's streaming Monday through Thursday on YouTube. Also available on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcast. And there's a documentary out on gil It's on Netflix available. It's called Untold Shooting Guards. We'll talk about that in the moment. First of all, how's your son doing.

Gilbert arenas host of Gil's Arena podcast, and it is doing some big business. Just surpassed one million subscribers on Underdog and it's streaming Monday through Thursday on YouTube. Also available on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcast. And there's a documentary out on gil It's on Netflix available. It's called Untold Shooting Guards. We'll talk about that in the moment. First of all, how's your son doing.

He's he's doing very well.

He's he's doing very well.

He has some angels with him that morning, so you know, glad, he's you know, fully recovering.

He has some angels with him that morning, so you know, glad, he's you know, fully recovering.

Didn't have any major injuries, so you know, that's all we.

Didn't have any major injuries, so you know, that's all we.

Can pray for what's that phone call? Like early in the morning.

Can pray for what's that phone call? Like early in the morning.

It was it was devastating.

It was it was devastating.

Well it was because I, you know, usually I'll wake up at four thirty and I go to the Tesla app to see if, you know, if he's heading home or if he's at the gym. So his car is at the gym. So I continue my workout and my daughter said, what are you doing. I'm like, obviously I'm working out. He said, you haven't heard your son just got an accident at the gym. There's like, no, he's at the hospital. So I just stopped everything and ran over there. And then it was like, what the hell is going on? Like was it his car? What's going on? And then I realized that the app actually malfunctioned and I found that out a couple of days later when he started waking up and off the drugs. But you know, my thing was making sure there was no broken limbs, there was no burns, and you know, lucky for him trapped inside of a car for so long, you know, it's it's luckily there. You know, there was bystanders that heard the crash that early in the morning that got him.

Well it was because I, you know, usually I'll wake up at four thirty and I go to the Tesla app to see if, you know, if he's heading home or if he's at the gym. So his car is at the gym. So I continue my workout and my daughter said, what are you doing. I'm like, obviously I'm working out. He said, you haven't heard your son just got an accident at the gym. There's like, no, he's at the hospital. So I just stopped everything and ran over there. And then it was like, what the hell is going on? Like was it his car? What's going on? And then I realized that the app actually malfunctioned and I found that out a couple of days later when he started waking up and off the drugs. But you know, my thing was making sure there was no broken limbs, there was no burns, and you know, lucky for him trapped inside of a car for so long, you know, it's it's luckily there. You know, there was bystanders that heard the crash that early in the morning that got him.

Out, but they had to put him in a coma.

Out, but they had to put him in a coma.

Yeah, because they were he was he was a little stronger than they they thought, and he was waking up, you know, going crazy, So they put him in an induced coma just to get the air.

Yeah, because they were he was he was a little stronger than they they thought, and he was waking up, you know, going crazy, So they put him in an induced coma just to get the air.

I guess, you know, was it? Cis said they were getting a smoke and all of that out.

I guess, you know, was it? Cis said they were getting a smoke and all of that out.

Of his Yeah, okay, so he I guess he was.

Of his Yeah, okay, so he I guess he was.

He was in a car. It looked like about ten twelve minutes.

He was in a car. It looked like about ten twelve minutes.

Just inhaling that, just in healing that yet. Yeah, all right, well that's good to hear. And he's still going to USC of course. Okay, you know he did.

Just inhaling that, just in healing that yet. Yeah, all right, well that's good to hear. And he's still going to USC of course. Okay, you know he did.

His sense of humor was still there when he was waking up and he asked where is he and was all you had the UCLA hospital and he wrote, tell muss I'm sorry that I'm at UCLA.

His sense of humor was still there when he was waking up and he asked where is he and was all you had the UCLA hospital and he wrote, tell muss I'm sorry that I'm at UCLA.

I'm like, not right now, not right now, So Coach Musselman, not right now, not with the jokes right now. We're still a little scared.

I'm like, not right now, not right now, So Coach Musselman, not right now, not with the jokes right now. We're still a little scared.

Okay.

Okay.

You got to see the documentary, Uh what stood out to you?

You got to see the documentary, Uh what stood out to you?

I thought it was I personally thought it was, you know, it was it was done good.

I thought it was I personally thought it was, you know, it was it was done good.

You know, explain how they came up with the idea that they're going to do a documentary called Untold Shooting Guards and the Double meaning.

You know, explain how they came up with the idea that they're going to do a documentary called Untold Shooting Guards and the Double meaning.

Well that that that that's a great title.

Well that that that that's a great title.

I'm not even gonna lie just you know, for you know, everything that went on.

I'm not even gonna lie just you know, for you know, everything that went on.

But you know, at first, I wanted to.

But you know, at first, I wanted to.

Tell this story to get the real story out there, but I never wanted to tell it without Javaris aside.

Tell this story to get the real story out there, but I never wanted to tell it without Javaris aside.

Okay, explain this to our audience, just so they know what you're talking about.

Okay, explain this to our audience, just so they know what you're talking about.

You know, So me and Javars, you know, which was my you know, rook at the time or second year player, but he was, you know, one of my guys on the team was playing a card game and I didn't like the way he was conversating after losing. You know, he was losing, so I didn't like the tone that he was saying to the other players. So as a veteran, as the guy that he, you know, he looked up to, you know, I checked him, and you know, when you're losing money, I'm checking you in front of players. That got into a little altercation, and you know, we challenged each other. So the challenge was you know you're gonna shoot me, Well, I want to see you do it. You know, I was calling this bluff and it wasn't as drama field as you know, the media made it seem right.

You know, So me and Javars, you know, which was my you know, rook at the time or second year player, but he was, you know, one of my guys on the team was playing a card game and I didn't like the way he was conversating after losing. You know, he was losing, so I didn't like the tone that he was saying to the other players. So as a veteran, as the guy that he, you know, he looked up to, you know, I checked him, and you know, when you're losing money, I'm checking you in front of players. That got into a little altercation, and you know, we challenged each other. So the challenge was you know you're gonna shoot me, Well, I want to see you do it. You know, I was calling this bluff and it wasn't as drama field as you know, the media made it seem right.

It calmed down very quickly.

It calmed down very quickly.

But I I you know, you guys got guns at the card game.

But I I you know, you guys got guns at the card game.

No, no, no, this is this was that.

No, no, no, this is this was that.

This was at the locker in the locker room, the card game on a plane from Arizona to Washington, that long flight and you know they play cards on the game.

This was at the locker in the locker room, the card game on a plane from Arizona to Washington, that long flight and you know they play cards on the game.

So how much money are we talking about here?

So how much money are we talking about here?

The pot at the time when I joined was probably eleven hundred dollars. Oh, but I think he was down about six grand.

The pot at the time when I joined was probably eleven hundred dollars. Oh, but I think he was down about six grand.

Okay, okay, So when did you guys? How how are you guys when you get off the plane? And then when do you know that maybe this is escalating?

Okay, okay, So when did you guys? How how are you guys when you get off the plane? And then when do you know that maybe this is escalating?

An I'm an.

An I'm an.

Antagonizer, so you know my personality, you can see, I'm an antagonizer.

Antagonizer, so you know my personality, you can see, I'm an antagonizer.

I'm gonna point, I'm gonna poke at you.

I'm gonna point, I'm gonna poke at you.

So you know, him losing, I'm poking at the end of the plane, just poking his buttons. But we did we did have a day off, so I think we landed Saturday. We did have Sunday off, and this happened Monday, where I'm.

So you know, him losing, I'm poking at the end of the plane, just poking his buttons. But we did we did have a day off, so I think we landed Saturday. We did have Sunday off, and this happened Monday, where I'm.

Still you know, you know, I want to see if you're still going to be about your word.

Still you know, you know, I want to see if you're still going to be about your word.

So I had the guns on his chair and I wrote a note, you know, pick one, you know.

So I had the guns on his chair and I wrote a note, you know, pick one, you know.

To see a tick one of these nice guns to shoot me with. But I knew he wasn't.

To see a tick one of these nice guns to shoot me with. But I knew he wasn't.

He couldn't shoot me because there were no bullets for the gun, right and then you had to go to Maryland to actually buy bullets, and the chances of them having a desert egle fifty cow bullet or whatever he picked wasn't going to be there.

He couldn't shoot me because there were no bullets for the gun, right and then you had to go to Maryland to actually buy bullets, and the chances of them having a desert egle fifty cow bullet or whatever he picked wasn't going to be there.

So I wasn't really scared for my life.

So I wasn't really scared for my life.

It was more I'm going to call your your bluff, let's see what you're gonna do, type of It was one of those type of type of ordeals, you know, egotistic stuff that locker rooms go through. I don't know, on another level, on another level.

It was more I'm going to call your your bluff, let's see what you're gonna do, type of It was one of those type of type of ordeals, you know, egotistic stuff that locker rooms go through. I don't know, on another level, on another level.

I don't I don't know if this happened with other teams where guys are bringing in guns there but no.

I don't I don't know if this happened with other teams where guys are bringing in guns there but no.

No, no, the other teams they just getting fistfights.

No, no, the other teams they just getting fistfights.

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just you know, so you know it was it was very immature on especially my part, you know, being the older player on their team. You know, very immature. But I did, and I I really tried to correct my wrong as as soon as it happened, by you know, really taking the blame forward and trying to see if the media just focused on me and get away from him.

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just you know, so you know it was it was very immature on especially my part, you know, being the older player on their team. You know, very immature. But I did, and I I really tried to correct my wrong as as soon as it happened, by you know, really taking the blame forward and trying to see if the media just focused on me and get away from him.

When did you know that it was going to be a bigger story than just a locker room prank?

When did you know that it was going to be a bigger story than just a locker room prank?

When I think when your Vesty got a hold of it and he wrote the article, you know, ok, corral inside the Wizard locker.

When I think when your Vesty got a hold of it and he wrote the article, you know, ok, corral inside the Wizard locker.

Room, I was like, oh, sh right, right.

Room, I was like, oh, sh right, right.

So it was because before that, you know, I had it on like the twenty first. So for the most part, the Washington, the Washington, you know, Will Bond and Born Heizer, they wasn't touching the story, you know, even though they heard rumbles of it, right it was like, okay, it's contained. Okay, let's just go on about our business, you know, let's not try that again. And you know, once he leaved the story, it was all hell broke loose after that.

So it was because before that, you know, I had it on like the twenty first. So for the most part, the Washington, the Washington, you know, Will Bond and Born Heizer, they wasn't touching the story, you know, even though they heard rumbles of it, right it was like, okay, it's contained. Okay, let's just go on about our business, you know, let's not try that again. And you know, once he leaved the story, it was all hell broke loose after that.

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It's Gilbert Arena's host of Gil's Arena Podcast, three time NBA All Star with the Wizards, and the documentary Untold doc It's Untold Shooting Guards.

I don't know why I liked the title so much, like it stands out, you know, when you're talking about putting the doc and you want the views.

I don't know why I liked the title so much, like it stands out, you know, when you're talking about putting the doc and you want the views.

That's a great yes, it is.

That's a great yes, it is.

Yes, it is.

Yes, it is.

Explain to me the logic of the Celtics last night that shooters keep shooting. But at what point do you change up your offensive philosophy? Maybe try to get a two, maybe go to the hoop, maybe get a free, like anything, you being a great scorer. After a while, you got to realize, maybe it's not my night.

Explain to me the logic of the Celtics last night that shooters keep shooting. But at what point do you change up your offensive philosophy? Maybe try to get a two, maybe go to the hoop, maybe get a free, like anything, you being a great scorer. After a while, you got to realize, maybe it's not my night.

You know, it's the Achille heels of when Celtics do lose, when they do lose the performance they had last night, Right, they're going to be ten for sixty, twelve for fifty eight. Right, you're beatable at that moment in time. Right, you know a team that's taking a bunch of twos, they're gonna beat you. You're shooting about one hundred and eighty points worth of threes, but you got one hundred and five points. That doesn't even make sense of a winning basketball, you know team.

You know, it's the Achille heels of when Celtics do lose, when they do lose the performance they had last night, Right, they're going to be ten for sixty, twelve for fifty eight. Right, you're beatable at that moment in time. Right, you know a team that's taking a bunch of twos, they're gonna beat you. You're shooting about one hundred and eighty points worth of threes, but you got one hundred and five points. That doesn't even make sense of a winning basketball, you know team.

So there has to be someone or some.

So there has to be someone or some.

Some strategy of at a certain point let go of the three point shot in attack, because if you're not playing a team who also relies on threes, like a New York Knick team, they're gonna actually beat you.

Some strategy of at a certain point let go of the three point shot in attack, because if you're not playing a team who also relies on threes, like a New York Knick team, they're gonna actually beat you.