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We'll talk about the Pete Rose situation coming up in a moment. There was something said after the Cavaliers were closed out last night. Donovan Mitchell, who's a wonderful player, played through an injury. Team was banged up a little bit, and he had this parting shot for the media getting.

We'll talk about the Pete Rose situation coming up in a moment. There was something said after the Cavaliers were closed out last night. Donovan Mitchell, who's a wonderful player, played through an injury. Team was banged up a little bit, and he had this parting shot for the media getting.

Beat down like this, and y'all are going to write some about us, man, and that's going to be fuel, Like you know, fuel for everybody. Y'all gonna say a lot, y'all are and that's what it takes. I've been here, so I understand. We understand, and now we just got to use it as fuel for next year.

Beat down like this, and y'all are going to write some about us, man, and that's going to be fuel, Like you know, fuel for everybody. Y'all gonna say a lot, y'all are and that's what it takes. I've been here, so I understand. We understand, and now we just got to use it as fuel for next year.

Okay, you're trying to make it a positive, but to me, you're gonna blame the media. The media didn't lose three games at home. The media was there and praised you sixty wins. Now it's gonna be the Cabs against the Celtics. Don't like the media loved the story here you got the coach of the year, defensive player of the year, Donovan Mitchell. It was a great story. Well, and I know after a loss like that, you're embarrassed. You thought you were going to go to the NBA Finals or certainly the Eastern Conference Finals. But don't pin this on the media. I mean, you can blame us for a lot of things. I wasn't the one who let Tyrese Haliburton go off. You guys did. And I think we were giving you a haul pass to a certain degree because of all the injuries. You weren't healthy, but you knew the Indiana Pacers were going to go toe to toe with you whether you were healthy or not. They were going to take you to a six or seventh game in my opinion when the series started. Okay, Pete Rose situation and the nineteen nineteen Black Sox. By the way, the movie Eight Men out Shoeless Joe Jackson. And now they are off the permanently banned list. Now they can be under consideration to be on a ballot to be voted on. But that you know, we're far from people getting into the Hall of Fame. Just want to let you know, Baseball the Hall of Fame is maintained that anyone removed from Baseball's permanently Ineligible list will become eligible for the Hall of Fame consideration. They have a Historical Overview committee. Now they will come up with eight names and then they'll evaluate these candidates. So these aren't just guys who have been suspended are permanently ineligible. It's not just Pete Rose and the nineteen nineteen Black Songs. You had guys like Dick Allen, Tommy John, Dave Parker, Louis Tiant, Steve Garvey. They were voted on by this committee. Now that's twenty twenty four, and Dick Allen and Dave Parker got in. I hope Steve Garby gets in. But so these are guys who just had great careers, but maybe the whull of very good. They're not going to meet again until December of twenty twenty seven. We got a lot of time in between. It's not a foregone conclusion. Now, Uless, you want to talk about cheating the game. The White Sox known as the Black Socks, they threw the World Series, Like, that's cheating the game? Did Pete cheat the game? He gambled on the game, and they don't have anything on him as a player. Now, do I think there's information about that, Yes, I do, But what they have the information is about him as a manager here. I've said before I grew up in Cincinnati. I've interviewed Pete many many times. He said that he only bet on the Reds to win, and said that to me a few years ago, and I understand what he means to the game. I know that the Hall of Fame is a museum and they can do whatever they want to do. The Hall of Fame is separate from base, but really they work in conjunction. Hall of Fame is not going to say, Hey, we're going to go rogue and we're going to do this. It is a museum. But nobody has benefited more from the Hall of Fame without being in the Hall of Fame than Pete Rose. Because if Pete was in the Hall of Fame twenty five years ago, nobody would care and be like, oh, yeah, saw Pete. All the memorabilia there? Yeah, going through Cooperstown. I mean Pete would go up there on the weekend that guys were getting into the Hall of Fame and he would hijack that weekend. He would do card signing appearances. Pete never changed. That was the problem I had, And I talked to the former commissioner, Bud Seely on the record, Off the record, privately, Pete had no contrition. He never apologized. He only said that he did it after he was writing a book to make money. Do I want it over with?

Okay, you're trying to make it a positive, but to me, you're gonna blame the media. The media didn't lose three games at home. The media was there and praised you sixty wins. Now it's gonna be the Cabs against the Celtics. Don't like the media loved the story here you got the coach of the year, defensive player of the year, Donovan Mitchell. It was a great story. Well, and I know after a loss like that, you're embarrassed. You thought you were going to go to the NBA Finals or certainly the Eastern Conference Finals. But don't pin this on the media. I mean, you can blame us for a lot of things. I wasn't the one who let Tyrese Haliburton go off. You guys did. And I think we were giving you a haul pass to a certain degree because of all the injuries. You weren't healthy, but you knew the Indiana Pacers were going to go toe to toe with you whether you were healthy or not. They were going to take you to a six or seventh game in my opinion when the series started. Okay, Pete Rose situation and the nineteen nineteen Black Sox. By the way, the movie Eight Men out Shoeless Joe Jackson. And now they are off the permanently banned list. Now they can be under consideration to be on a ballot to be voted on. But that you know, we're far from people getting into the Hall of Fame. Just want to let you know, Baseball the Hall of Fame is maintained that anyone removed from Baseball's permanently Ineligible list will become eligible for the Hall of Fame consideration. They have a Historical Overview committee. Now they will come up with eight names and then they'll evaluate these candidates. So these aren't just guys who have been suspended are permanently ineligible. It's not just Pete Rose and the nineteen nineteen Black Songs. You had guys like Dick Allen, Tommy John, Dave Parker, Louis Tiant, Steve Garvey. They were voted on by this committee. Now that's twenty twenty four, and Dick Allen and Dave Parker got in. I hope Steve Garby gets in. But so these are guys who just had great careers, but maybe the whull of very good. They're not going to meet again until December of twenty twenty seven. We got a lot of time in between. It's not a foregone conclusion. Now, Uless, you want to talk about cheating the game. The White Sox known as the Black Socks, they threw the World Series, Like, that's cheating the game? Did Pete cheat the game? He gambled on the game, and they don't have anything on him as a player. Now, do I think there's information about that, Yes, I do, But what they have the information is about him as a manager here. I've said before I grew up in Cincinnati. I've interviewed Pete many many times. He said that he only bet on the Reds to win, and said that to me a few years ago, and I understand what he means to the game. I know that the Hall of Fame is a museum and they can do whatever they want to do. The Hall of Fame is separate from base, but really they work in conjunction. Hall of Fame is not going to say, Hey, we're going to go rogue and we're going to do this. It is a museum. But nobody has benefited more from the Hall of Fame without being in the Hall of Fame than Pete Rose. Because if Pete was in the Hall of Fame twenty five years ago, nobody would care and be like, oh, yeah, saw Pete. All the memorabilia there? Yeah, going through Cooperstown. I mean Pete would go up there on the weekend that guys were getting into the Hall of Fame and he would hijack that weekend. He would do card signing appearances. Pete never changed. That was the problem I had, And I talked to the former commissioner, Bud Seely on the record, Off the record, privately, Pete had no contrition. He never apologized. He only said that he did it after he was writing a book to make money. Do I want it over with?

I do.

I do.

Either he's in, or he's at vote and he doesn't get in, or he does get in. And this doesn't open the door for steroid users. They truly cheated the game every single game, but they got on the ballot. I don't want them in now. There's some that are probably already in, but Pete is a unique situation. Shoeless Joe Jackson, I think hit three seventy five in that World Series, and he's accused of helping to throw the World Series to the Cincinnati Rens. But Pete to get where he is, I'm not surprised. I truly think this was maybe a quid pro quo with President Trump, and I think that President Trump knows that this will play to the mass is every you know, most people want Pete in the Hall of Fame, and I think that President Trump knows that he can take a victory lap with this. And whatever that discussion was with the Commissioner, Rob Manfred, who we did invite, he said that he's busy today. If he does have time, this will be the one show he will do. Something was said in that conversation that made the commissioner maybe reconsider. Pete's family came to the commissioner, they appealed, They wanted to appeal this. I think Baseball wanted to make sure that Pete Rose did not have his day in Cooper's town, that he did not have the opportunity to get up there live with a microphone in his hand and able to say whatever you wanted to say. Although if Pete does get in posthumously, I'd be really curious who is going to give the speech and what are they going to say in that speech? If it's Pete's son, are you going to do fire in Brimstone or are you just going to go thank you for allowing my father into the Hall of Fame. There's a lot of reaction to this, and that's why we'll have Johnny Bench on. He'll join a little bit later on that. The steps to get into the Hall of Fame, it's there's still a long and winding road here, but I think that's where people have the foregone conclusion of Hey, he's getting in the Hall of Fame soon. And the answer is he's not. And this committee is made up of former players, former writer or maybe current writers. But you have a group that's involved in this, and they're going to be the ones voting. I think there's sixteen people on this committee, the Historical Committee. But make no mistake about it, you still have players who played the game the right way, had really good resumes. They just didn't make the Hall of Fame when they went through the normal process there. But you got some really good players and I think shoeless Joe Jackson should go in before Pete Rose does. If you're going to have a vote on this, and do you do it? Chronell? How many of those players with the White Sox nineteen nineteen are Hall of Fame worthy? Maybe one, two, maybe three? That's it. Put Pete on there. You got other guys, Louis till On, Steve Garvey. You know they're gonna get votes. They're gonna get you know, all of a sudden, you got Steve Garvey there and then you got Pete Rose. Who are you voting for if you're on this historical committee? And how many of these former players are going to go Nope, not going to vote for him. Now Johnny Bench has come out and said, hey, I hope Pete gets in the Hall of Fame. I think the Commissioner got to the point where now he can wash his hands from with this. Every time he's on the show, any show, Pete Rose comes up. Now he's done. Now he might have to answer to me like why now if Pete was still alive. But the commissioner's not voting voting on this. And you know when they say permanently ineligible means after you've died. Now you change the language too, it's a lifetime ban. Well, the life time is over. His life is over. Now he can be up for consideration. I think that's the tricky language that the commissioner changed edited. But you know they even said that Pete, you know, it's not a threat to the game anymore. That was kind of strong language.

Either he's in, or he's at vote and he doesn't get in, or he does get in. And this doesn't open the door for steroid users. They truly cheated the game every single game, but they got on the ballot. I don't want them in now. There's some that are probably already in, but Pete is a unique situation. Shoeless Joe Jackson, I think hit three seventy five in that World Series, and he's accused of helping to throw the World Series to the Cincinnati Rens. But Pete to get where he is, I'm not surprised. I truly think this was maybe a quid pro quo with President Trump, and I think that President Trump knows that this will play to the mass is every you know, most people want Pete in the Hall of Fame, and I think that President Trump knows that he can take a victory lap with this. And whatever that discussion was with the Commissioner, Rob Manfred, who we did invite, he said that he's busy today. If he does have time, this will be the one show he will do. Something was said in that conversation that made the commissioner maybe reconsider. Pete's family came to the commissioner, they appealed, They wanted to appeal this. I think Baseball wanted to make sure that Pete Rose did not have his day in Cooper's town, that he did not have the opportunity to get up there live with a microphone in his hand and able to say whatever you wanted to say. Although if Pete does get in posthumously, I'd be really curious who is going to give the speech and what are they going to say in that speech? If it's Pete's son, are you going to do fire in Brimstone or are you just going to go thank you for allowing my father into the Hall of Fame. There's a lot of reaction to this, and that's why we'll have Johnny Bench on. He'll join a little bit later on that. The steps to get into the Hall of Fame, it's there's still a long and winding road here, but I think that's where people have the foregone conclusion of Hey, he's getting in the Hall of Fame soon. And the answer is he's not. And this committee is made up of former players, former writer or maybe current writers. But you have a group that's involved in this, and they're going to be the ones voting. I think there's sixteen people on this committee, the Historical Committee. But make no mistake about it, you still have players who played the game the right way, had really good resumes. They just didn't make the Hall of Fame when they went through the normal process there. But you got some really good players and I think shoeless Joe Jackson should go in before Pete Rose does. If you're going to have a vote on this, and do you do it? Chronell? How many of those players with the White Sox nineteen nineteen are Hall of Fame worthy? Maybe one, two, maybe three? That's it. Put Pete on there. You got other guys, Louis till On, Steve Garvey. You know they're gonna get votes. They're gonna get you know, all of a sudden, you got Steve Garvey there and then you got Pete Rose. Who are you voting for if you're on this historical committee? And how many of these former players are going to go Nope, not going to vote for him. Now Johnny Bench has come out and said, hey, I hope Pete gets in the Hall of Fame. I think the Commissioner got to the point where now he can wash his hands from with this. Every time he's on the show, any show, Pete Rose comes up. Now he's done. Now he might have to answer to me like why now if Pete was still alive. But the commissioner's not voting voting on this. And you know when they say permanently ineligible means after you've died. Now you change the language too, it's a lifetime ban. Well, the life time is over. His life is over. Now he can be up for consideration. I think that's the tricky language that the commissioner changed edited. But you know they even said that Pete, you know, it's not a threat to the game anymore. That was kind of strong language.

I don't. I don't.

I don't. I don't.

When I saw Pete in a wheelchair, I'd be like, I don't think he's a threat to anybody right now?

When I saw Pete in a wheelchair, I'd be like, I don't think he's a threat to anybody right now?

Yeah, Paulie, Yeah, the quote was obviously a person no longer with us cannot represent a threat to the integrity of the game. It's hard to conceive a penalty that has more deterrent effect than one that lasts a person's lifetime with no reprieve.

Yeah, Paulie, Yeah, the quote was obviously a person no longer with us cannot represent a threat to the integrity of the game. It's hard to conceive a penalty that has more deterrent effect than one that lasts a person's lifetime with no reprieve.

By the way, it's Pete Rose Knight tonight at Great American Ballpark. Coincidentally, the Reds will honor the career of Pete Rose with a special celebration tonight at Great American Ballpark.

By the way, it's Pete Rose Knight tonight at Great American Ballpark. Coincidentally, the Reds will honor the career of Pete Rose with a special celebration tonight at Great American Ballpark.

All right, and.

All right, and.

Guess who they're facing? The White Sox. You couldn't script. Oh my goodness, everybody get black socks that did come in. These are the red sauce, the red stockings versus the black Sox. Here Pete Rose. Everybody gets a Pete Rose replica jersey that shows up tonight. Pete Rose. You can't this was planned? Or maybe they did script this? Yeah? Was it planned? Dang? See alright, you know it would be great, guys. Yeah, I know that's what I'm thinking. Hold on, hear me out. Okay, all right, I'm gonna announce this Pete Rose thing. How about Hey, how about we get a hold of Cincinnati and then we say, hey, guys, how about a Pete Rose night? Sure? Yeah, yeah, we'll do that. We'll have him played the white size. Oh so it's white sax I. No, No, we're not going to celebrate them. We're only celebrating Pete and it's May fourteenth and he wore the jersey number fourteen. We've got it. Okay, yes, don I bet that's a tough ticket. Okay, so soon, so.

Guess who they're facing? The White Sox. You couldn't script. Oh my goodness, everybody get black socks that did come in. These are the red sauce, the red stockings versus the black Sox. Here Pete Rose. Everybody gets a Pete Rose replica jersey that shows up tonight. Pete Rose. You can't this was planned? Or maybe they did script this? Yeah? Was it planned? Dang? See alright, you know it would be great, guys. Yeah, I know that's what I'm thinking. Hold on, hear me out. Okay, all right, I'm gonna announce this Pete Rose thing. How about Hey, how about we get a hold of Cincinnati and then we say, hey, guys, how about a Pete Rose night? Sure? Yeah, yeah, we'll do that. We'll have him played the white size. Oh so it's white sax I. No, No, we're not going to celebrate them. We're only celebrating Pete and it's May fourteenth and he wore the jersey number fourteen. We've got it. Okay, yes, don I bet that's a tough ticket. Okay, so soon, so.

Come on, let's parlay too, okay?

Come on, let's parlay too, okay?

Oh okay? Greg and Florida, Good morning, Greg. What's on your mind today?

Oh okay? Greg and Florida, Good morning, Greg. What's on your mind today?

Hey? Good morning? Six foot plus one handicap?

Hey? Good morning? Six foot plus one handicap?

WHOA.

WHOA.

I grew up in Clearwater, Florida, and uh, I was fortunate enough to be able to watch old Charlie hustle end of his career when the Phillies got him, you know, his steady and Lesinski. What a team. And boy, I just sat at the fence and was watching him, and he truly did hustle everywhere he went, jaw and he was just the iron man. It was, it was, it was. It was stunning watching that man on the field, by the way. But now conversely, when it comes to the special Awards and all this stuff, Shooter Show, Jackson, all of them, any of them, look you cheat the game, they look into it, they give you a ban just because Major League Baseball is teaming up with the gambling stuff and we're all becoming Dejenner. Gambling's okay now, so it doesn't change what deep act of what he did. Live die go on. He did what he did to give him eligibility. To me is is putting a stamp on it. Well, but it's okay to be to do wrong about the game knowingly. That's the thing, knowingly doing wrong. So I don't think twenty years, forty years, a hundred years should make a difference. And cheat is a cheater. Someone who does wrong is done wrong, and that's that. Have a nice day out of McGill. It's not the bad message to the kids.

I grew up in Clearwater, Florida, and uh, I was fortunate enough to be able to watch old Charlie hustle end of his career when the Phillies got him, you know, his steady and Lesinski. What a team. And boy, I just sat at the fence and was watching him, and he truly did hustle everywhere he went, jaw and he was just the iron man. It was, it was, it was. It was stunning watching that man on the field, by the way. But now conversely, when it comes to the special Awards and all this stuff, Shooter Show, Jackson, all of them, any of them, look you cheat the game, they look into it, they give you a ban just because Major League Baseball is teaming up with the gambling stuff and we're all becoming Dejenner. Gambling's okay now, so it doesn't change what deep act of what he did. Live die go on. He did what he did to give him eligibility. To me is is putting a stamp on it. Well, but it's okay to be to do wrong about the game knowingly. That's the thing, knowingly doing wrong. So I don't think twenty years, forty years, a hundred years should make a difference. And cheat is a cheater. Someone who does wrong is done wrong, and that's that. Have a nice day out of McGill. It's not the bad message to the kids.

All right, Well, thank you, Greg. So this overview committee, they'll get together the twenty twenty seven Classic Baseball Era Committee ballot. So you need twelve votes by the sixteen member committee, and the committee has made up of four former players, four former executives for writers, and four historians. And then you're voted on to be inducted in the summer of twenty twenty eight. That's where you have to understand, you know, the timing of this is not all of a sudden later this summer peats in the Hall of Fame.

All right, Well, thank you, Greg. So this overview committee, they'll get together the twenty twenty seven Classic Baseball Era Committee ballot. So you need twelve votes by the sixteen member committee, and the committee has made up of four former players, four former executives for writers, and four historians. And then you're voted on to be inducted in the summer of twenty twenty eight. That's where you have to understand, you know, the timing of this is not all of a sudden later this summer peats in the Hall of Fame.

Yeah, Pauline, this does bring us back to the original topic with Pete Rose is he stopped playing in nineteen eighty six, he instantly became a manager. He was only like a couple of years away from being on the Hall of Fame ballot before this story broke. Let's say the story broke ten years after his career and he was already in the Hall of Fame. Would he have been pulled I doubt it.

Yeah, Pauline, this does bring us back to the original topic with Pete Rose is he stopped playing in nineteen eighty six, he instantly became a manager. He was only like a couple of years away from being on the Hall of Fame ballot before this story broke. Let's say the story broke ten years after his career and he was already in the Hall of Fame. Would he have been pulled I doubt it.

OJ's not pulled out of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

OJ's not pulled out of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Right, So let's say, if this committee actually discusses Pete Rose, should they look at his playing career as the only topic in the room.

Right, So let's say, if this committee actually discusses Pete Rose, should they look at his playing career as the only topic in the room.

Yeah, and I'm repeating myself, but I've done this for decades now that I liken Pete Rose to cheating in grad school getting caught cheating in grad school, I do not take away what he did as an undergraduate, Like he got his degree and you know what was suma kum laude. But he cheated in grad school and he got caught. Can I separate the two? You can try. I don't think Pete started gambling when he became a manager. Okay, let's just let's let's be fair about this. Do I think he bet on sports when he was playing? Absolutely I know that for a fact. Do I know about be I do not know that, but we know about him as a manager. Do I think there's more information there?

Yeah, and I'm repeating myself, but I've done this for decades now that I liken Pete Rose to cheating in grad school getting caught cheating in grad school, I do not take away what he did as an undergraduate, Like he got his degree and you know what was suma kum laude. But he cheated in grad school and he got caught. Can I separate the two? You can try. I don't think Pete started gambling when he became a manager. Okay, let's just let's let's be fair about this. Do I think he bet on sports when he was playing? Absolutely I know that for a fact. Do I know about be I do not know that, but we know about him as a manager. Do I think there's more information there?

Yes?

Yes?

I do.

I do.

The question is does it come out or is this commissioner going to say, let's judge Pete on just what we know about Pete, which is fine. I don't think anybody. You know, there's very little investigative reporting anymore in the sports world. I don't know if anybody is going to take the time to dig into this, try to find out if there's more to this. Feels like we kind of passed that. And you know, unfortunately I would love to have seen Pete give a speech. I would, and we won't have that. And they have all his memorabilia there. And that's where people say, well, baseball is capitalize on Pete Rose. Yes, yes, he's still part of the history of the game. Yeah, they trot him out for certain events, Yes they do. Baseball can be hypocritical here. Pete could have turned those things down. He could have said, no, I don't want to be part of this until you make me part of baseball officially. I don't want to be part of it. But Pete was there. Do an interview with Jim Gray and Jim Gray's asking him about gambling. I just think Pete thought he was bigger than the game. I think until he died, he still thought he was bigger than the game. And that was the unfortunate part. Bud Selig said to me, well, I suggested it to the commissioner. I said, you know what, have Pete go into the minor leagues and spend a couple of years traveling around and he could be a gambling ambassador to what not to do and help these kids understand the price that he paid. If there was contrition, I think Pete would have been in the Baseball Hall of Fame. I think if he would have apologized, he fought baseball and they had him. They had so much information, so much data on it. But I think if he had done that and created this goodwill ambassador, I think he would have already been into the Baseball Hall of Fame. But what made Pete great is what kept him out of the Hall of Fame. He refused to give in. That's Pete. Roger Clemens is this way, Lance Armstrong this way, Barry Bonds this way. What made you great is what is going to keep you out of the Hall of Fame. But now it's up to this committee to decide. But make no mistake about it, this is not happening anytime soon. As far as Pete getting in or getting on a ballot, you got to wait till December of twenty twenty seven. We'll take a break. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. More of your phone calls coming up. We'll talk to the Hall of Famer Johnny Bench on the news yesterday with Pete Rose taking off the permanently Ineligible list. Nick Wright, host of First Things First on Fox Sports One Monday through Friday every afternoon and What's Right with Nick Wright on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts. Great to see you. Did the Commissioner have a good day? Commissioner of Major League Baseball have a good day? Yesterday?

The question is does it come out or is this commissioner going to say, let's judge Pete on just what we know about Pete, which is fine. I don't think anybody. You know, there's very little investigative reporting anymore in the sports world. I don't know if anybody is going to take the time to dig into this, try to find out if there's more to this. Feels like we kind of passed that. And you know, unfortunately I would love to have seen Pete give a speech. I would, and we won't have that. And they have all his memorabilia there. And that's where people say, well, baseball is capitalize on Pete Rose. Yes, yes, he's still part of the history of the game. Yeah, they trot him out for certain events, Yes they do. Baseball can be hypocritical here. Pete could have turned those things down. He could have said, no, I don't want to be part of this until you make me part of baseball officially. I don't want to be part of it. But Pete was there. Do an interview with Jim Gray and Jim Gray's asking him about gambling. I just think Pete thought he was bigger than the game. I think until he died, he still thought he was bigger than the game. And that was the unfortunate part. Bud Selig said to me, well, I suggested it to the commissioner. I said, you know what, have Pete go into the minor leagues and spend a couple of years traveling around and he could be a gambling ambassador to what not to do and help these kids understand the price that he paid. If there was contrition, I think Pete would have been in the Baseball Hall of Fame. I think if he would have apologized, he fought baseball and they had him. They had so much information, so much data on it. But I think if he had done that and created this goodwill ambassador, I think he would have already been into the Baseball Hall of Fame. But what made Pete great is what kept him out of the Hall of Fame. He refused to give in. That's Pete. Roger Clemens is this way, Lance Armstrong this way, Barry Bonds this way. What made you great is what is going to keep you out of the Hall of Fame. But now it's up to this committee to decide. But make no mistake about it, this is not happening anytime soon. As far as Pete getting in or getting on a ballot, you got to wait till December of twenty twenty seven. We'll take a break. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. More of your phone calls coming up. We'll talk to the Hall of Famer Johnny Bench on the news yesterday with Pete Rose taking off the permanently Ineligible list. Nick Wright, host of First Things First on Fox Sports One Monday through Friday every afternoon and What's Right with Nick Wright on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts. Great to see you. Did the Commissioner have a good day? Commissioner of Major League Baseball have a good day? Yesterday?

Wow?

Wow?

This is a have you before I answered the question? I didn't hear the top of your show?

This is a have you before I answered the question? I didn't hear the top of your show?

Did you?

Did you?

You're kind of you know, one of, if not the current godfather of American sports radio. Did you have a moment of silence for should Pete Rose be in the Hall of Fame? Topic like potentially dying of being gone? It's been it's always been a go to if need be break lass in case of emergency, for your entire career, and those days may be numbered. I don't even know what to compare this too, but it is. It's like if you did a talk show about, you know, should they tear down the Berlin Wall, and then it's announced it's coming down, Like what are we gonna do here?

You're kind of you know, one of, if not the current godfather of American sports radio. Did you have a moment of silence for should Pete Rose be in the Hall of Fame? Topic like potentially dying of being gone? It's been it's always been a go to if need be break lass in case of emergency, for your entire career, and those days may be numbered. I don't even know what to compare this too, but it is. It's like if you did a talk show about, you know, should they tear down the Berlin Wall, and then it's announced it's coming down, Like what are we gonna do here?

So, yeah, I think it's a good day.

So, yeah, I think it's a good day.

And I also think maybe I'm just Oh, I'm obviously not an idiot, but maybe this is an idiotic opinion. I thought it was obvious that once a guy dies, a lifetime ban is over. I thought the whole point of it was like, while he's alive, he can't be a part of it.

And I also think maybe I'm just Oh, I'm obviously not an idiot, but maybe this is an idiotic opinion. I thought it was obvious that once a guy dies, a lifetime ban is over. I thought the whole point of it was like, while he's alive, he can't be a part of it.

But it was not a lifetime ban. It was a permanent ban. People misconstrued what the band was. It was a permanent, not lifetime. Now the commissioner has since altered that language. Now it's a lifetime ban.

But it was not a lifetime ban. It was a permanent ban. People misconstrued what the band was. It was a permanent, not lifetime. Now the commissioner has since altered that language. Now it's a lifetime ban.

So Okay, so that bad job by me. I didn't realize that. But yeah, I think that's what it should be.

So Okay, so that bad job by me. I didn't realize that. But yeah, I think that's what it should be.

I think we've talked to this before.

I think we've talked to this before.

A hall of fame should be museums in my opinion, and I if you want to in theory, you should be able to go to a hall of fame knowing nothing about a sport and if you spend enough time there get the full totality of the history of it. Maybe it'll take a month being there ten hours a day.

A hall of fame should be museums in my opinion, and I if you want to in theory, you should be able to go to a hall of fame knowing nothing about a sport and if you spend enough time there get the full totality of the history of it. Maybe it'll take a month being there ten hours a day.

I don't know.

I don't know.

So I just thought I always thought there were obvious things like I thought that if you wanted to include on plaques of certain guys played in, you know, a segregation era, played in what is commonly known as the steroid era, was banned from the sport do to gambling, like those things like that's part of the story. But I don't like the idea of we're just going to act like these guys didn't exist. And I also don't like the voters, you know, the way they have treated the steroid guys, because to me, it is short changing this what the Hall of Fame is supposed to be.

So I just thought I always thought there were obvious things like I thought that if you wanted to include on plaques of certain guys played in, you know, a segregation era, played in what is commonly known as the steroid era, was banned from the sport do to gambling, like those things like that's part of the story. But I don't like the idea of we're just going to act like these guys didn't exist. And I also don't like the voters, you know, the way they have treated the steroid guys, because to me, it is short changing this what the Hall of Fame is supposed to be.

Yeah, I'm with you on the museum part of it. And I don't think anybody has benefited more than Pete Rose did by not being in the Hall of Fame. Sure twenty five years ago. If he's in the Hall of Fame, we don't bring up his name. But it became a campaign in a crusade. I do think the commissioner Major League Baseball meeting with President Trump may have had a quid pro quo where Donald Trump wanted him in. Oh it's not like him, are you? You don't think we had.

Yeah, I'm with you on the museum part of it. And I don't think anybody has benefited more than Pete Rose did by not being in the Hall of Fame. Sure twenty five years ago. If he's in the Hall of Fame, we don't bring up his name. But it became a campaign in a crusade. I do think the commissioner Major League Baseball meeting with President Trump may have had a quid pro quo where Donald Trump wanted him in. Oh it's not like him, are you? You don't think we had.

With this administration?

With this administration?

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Will your lips sighre on? What a scurls alligation? I know, with any with any data whatsoever. This is why people don't trust the liberal media.

Dan my god, go ahead.

Dan my god, go ahead.

Yeah. But I think Pete getting off the list, you know, people think this is just gonna be rubber stamped. He's going into the Hall of Fame, which he still has to go through this committee that doesn't get together until December of twenty twenty seven, and just to get on the ballot. So I think this is a long process. I do think Pete will get that opportunity, But I would put shoeless Joe Jackson in before Pete, or put him on the ballot before Pete Can I.

Yeah. But I think Pete getting off the list, you know, people think this is just gonna be rubber stamped. He's going into the Hall of Fame, which he still has to go through this committee that doesn't get together until December of twenty twenty seven, and just to get on the ballot. So I think this is a long process. I do think Pete will get that opportunity, But I would put shoeless Joe Jackson in before Pete, or put him on the ballot before Pete Can I.

Ask you a question and then I know you want to get to other things, and this might I am putting you on the spot, So I apologize.

Ask you a question and then I know you want to get to other things, and this might I am putting you on the spot, So I apologize.

Okay, did you like Pete Rose?

Okay, did you like Pete Rose?

I loved Pete Rose. I didn't always like him.

I loved Pete Rose. I didn't always like him.

No, so you I mean you were I knew as a player. But I'm like, I assume my only interaction with Pete Rose my entire life was my grandparents lived in Boca when I was a kid, and my granddad was a horse better and he would sometimes take me to the track and we'd see Pete Rose there.

No, so you I mean you were I knew as a player. But I'm like, I assume my only interaction with Pete Rose my entire life was my grandparents lived in Boca when I was a kid, and my granddad was a horse better and he would sometimes take me to the track and we'd see Pete Rose there.

All the time.

All the time.

And one time I said, hello, I assume you had maybe dozens of.

And one time I said, hello, I assume you had maybe dozens of.

Interactions with him, And I'm just curious, like.

Interactions with him, And I'm just curious, like.

If you liked him, because I it doesn't. It's an odd thing because even people who think like I think that he should be in the Hall of Fame, I don't think viewed him as a super sympathetic figure or even that necessarily likable of a figure.

If you liked him, because I it doesn't. It's an odd thing because even people who think like I think that he should be in the Hall of Fame, I don't think viewed him as a super sympathetic figure or even that necessarily likable of a figure.

Well, it didn't help his case that there was no active contrition. He never apologized. He never said how do I make good on this? How do I help major League Baseball? Had he done that, I think he would have already been in the Hall of Fame, and we'll talk to Johnny Bench coming up next hour. A couple other things I want to bring to your attention. I don't know if you heard about we were doing the Hall of Very Good in the NBA, So I don't know if you have, and you always like to do tears on your show in the afternoon. I don't know if you had a Hall of very Good like Joe Johnson, let's say Jamal Crawford. There's guys who probably aren't going in the Hall of Fame, but the Hall of Very Good.

Well, it didn't help his case that there was no active contrition. He never apologized. He never said how do I make good on this? How do I help major League Baseball? Had he done that, I think he would have already been in the Hall of Fame, and we'll talk to Johnny Bench coming up next hour. A couple other things I want to bring to your attention. I don't know if you heard about we were doing the Hall of Very Good in the NBA, So I don't know if you have, and you always like to do tears on your show in the afternoon. I don't know if you had a Hall of very Good like Joe Johnson, let's say Jamal Crawford. There's guys who probably aren't going in the Hall of Fame, but the Hall of Very Good.

So I love that.

So I love that.

But when it comes to the NBA, that to me is really applicable to the NFL because there's a lot of legends that aren't ever going to make the Hall if we had. If I were doing it with the NBA, the way I would do the Hall of Very Good is taking a bunch of guys who are actually in the Hall out and putting them in that hole like the I mean.

But when it comes to the NBA, that to me is really applicable to the NFL because there's a lot of legends that aren't ever going to make the Hall if we had. If I were doing it with the NBA, the way I would do the Hall of Very Good is taking a bunch of guys who are actually in the Hall out and putting them in that hole like the I mean.

There are there's too many in the basketball Hall of Shame right.

There are there's too many in the basketball Hall of Shame right.

To where it's almost as if if you have.

To where it's almost as if if you have.

A noteworthy career and you're not considered it, like I'll give you an example, Al Horford might make it.

A noteworthy career and you're not considered it, like I'll give you an example, Al Horford might make it.

I think he will because of the two titles in Florida.

I think he will because of the two titles in Florida.

Well right, yes, and and listen, everybody likes Al Horford is it's kind of mean of me to pick him, but it's just that came to mind at no moment in his entire professional basketball career where you're like, man, shoot, we got Al Horford, like he was a good player for a long time and he'll probably make it.

Well right, yes, and and listen, everybody likes Al Horford is it's kind of mean of me to pick him, but it's just that came to mind at no moment in his entire professional basketball career where you're like, man, shoot, we got Al Horford, like he was a good player for a long time and he'll probably make it.

As you said, like there are hovg yeah.

As you said, like there are hovg yeah.

I mean at this point, like Jalen Brown is damn near a lunk like for the and he's twenty eight years old and it's so yeah, I so I have very controversial opinions on this, uh, which is so we Another thing we do on the show free Plug is Club Superstar for the NBA annual event opening again end of May, and it's twelve guys maximum, which means like, oh, shoot, is Tyre's Halliburton now in Club Superstar? And the answer to that question is yes, somebody's got to come out. I wish that's how a Hall of Fame worked. Like, listen, there's ninety six Hall of Famers or whatever the number is, so well.

I mean at this point, like Jalen Brown is damn near a lunk like for the and he's twenty eight years old and it's so yeah, I so I have very controversial opinions on this, uh, which is so we Another thing we do on the show free Plug is Club Superstar for the NBA annual event opening again end of May, and it's twelve guys maximum, which means like, oh, shoot, is Tyre's Halliburton now in Club Superstar? And the answer to that question is yes, somebody's got to come out. I wish that's how a Hall of Fame worked. Like, listen, there's ninety six Hall of Famers or whatever the number is, so well.

You know, hey, I'm gonna be a relegation in your Hall of Fame.

You know, hey, I'm gonna be a relegation in your Hall of Fame.

Yeah, I mean, you can't support this because it'd be so bad for your guy, Reggie, But it would be very exciting. It would be very exciting if it was now you can say, every you know, decade because the league numbers expanded, we had five total new Sponts or whatever. But guys who like got into the skin of their teeth, they get to have the ceremony, they get to have the plaque, but they know I'm probably just keeping somebody seat warm, which I think would be cooler.

Yeah, I mean, you can't support this because it'd be so bad for your guy, Reggie, But it would be very exciting. It would be very exciting if it was now you can say, every you know, decade because the league numbers expanded, we had five total new Sponts or whatever. But guys who like got into the skin of their teeth, they get to have the ceremony, they get to have the plaque, but they know I'm probably just keeping somebody seat warm, which I think would be cooler.

We're talking to Nick Wright, host of First Things First on Fox Sports one and What's Right with Nick Wright on YouTube wherever you get your podcast. Give me the situation, the most awkward offseason situation with let's say Milwaukee, let's say Denver, let's say Golden State, Boston, with you know, exits from the playoffs and moves that might be or need to be made, trades that need to be made.

We're talking to Nick Wright, host of First Things First on Fox Sports one and What's Right with Nick Wright on YouTube wherever you get your podcast. Give me the situation, the most awkward offseason situation with let's say Milwaukee, let's say Denver, let's say Golden State, Boston, with you know, exits from the playoffs and moves that might be or need to be made, trades that need to be made.

Well, I mean, I can go one by one if I may. Boston. What happened to Boston in the last seventy.

Well, I mean, I can go one by one if I may. Boston. What happened to Boston in the last seventy.

Two hours is you know, a sports tragedy in that they they thought maybe rightfully so that we went cold. The first two games were better than the Knicks. We're obviously better than the Cabs. And I think, listen the Pacers last people forget last year the Pacers Conference finals. Halliburton got hurt early Game two, and so we didn't really get to see that, but I'm sure they felt comfortable we're gonna win the championship and be in good position, maybe even for a three peat. Now, the next time Jason Tatum plays basketball, Al Horford won't be on the team, Kristaps likely won't be on the team, Drew or Derek White might not be on the team. And that team that people were talking about, that team pairing away even if they win because of the finances of it. So there's that. I think Denver, even if they lose this series, has done enough to where they can feel better about their direction than they did when they fired Mike Michael Malone obviously, and you're seeing just enough from Strawther and Watson like maybe they get better and you hope you get a healthier Michael Porter Junior.

Two hours is you know, a sports tragedy in that they they thought maybe rightfully so that we went cold. The first two games were better than the Knicks. We're obviously better than the Cabs. And I think, listen the Pacers last people forget last year the Pacers Conference finals. Halliburton got hurt early Game two, and so we didn't really get to see that, but I'm sure they felt comfortable we're gonna win the championship and be in good position, maybe even for a three peat. Now, the next time Jason Tatum plays basketball, Al Horford won't be on the team, Kristaps likely won't be on the team, Drew or Derek White might not be on the team. And that team that people were talking about, that team pairing away even if they win because of the finances of it. So there's that. I think Denver, even if they lose this series, has done enough to where they can feel better about their direction than they did when they fired Mike Michael Malone obviously, and you're seeing just enough from Strawther and Watson like maybe they get better and you hope you get a healthier Michael Porter Junior.

I think Golden State has finished.

I think Golden State has finished.

Now, I've said that before, and you know, Draymond's made fun of me, and that's fine, But I I do Anybody trying to concoct a Yanna's trade to Golden State doesn't understand how the CBA works and assets work. So I just I don't see And I don't think Jimmy Butler's getting better.

Now, I've said that before, and you know, Draymond's made fun of me, and that's fine, But I I do Anybody trying to concoct a Yanna's trade to Golden State doesn't understand how the CBA works and assets work. So I just I don't see And I don't think Jimmy Butler's getting better.

You know what I mean?

You know what I mean?

I think we are seeing that at thirty five years old, playoff Jimmy has real limitations. I think Milwaukee here is the other part of the Tatum injury. Does that give Yanni's pause where he's like, maybe I give this one more year? Like the Calves are the Calves, by the way, or a second Apron disaster. I have a thought on them in a seat. The Celtics are self eliminated. You know, I'm gonna train all summer with just a picture of John Halliburton, Tyrese's dad in.

I think we are seeing that at thirty five years old, playoff Jimmy has real limitations. I think Milwaukee here is the other part of the Tatum injury. Does that give Yanni's pause where he's like, maybe I give this one more year? Like the Calves are the Calves, by the way, or a second Apron disaster. I have a thought on them in a seat. The Celtics are self eliminated. You know, I'm gonna train all summer with just a picture of John Halliburton, Tyrese's dad in.

My you know, for motivation.

My you know, for motivation.

Maybe the East do If I'm Yannis, do I want to go west?

Maybe the East do If I'm Yannis, do I want to go west?

Where?

Where?

Honest to God, Dan, if you were to list if Jannis goes West and Tatum is injured, if you were to list the twenty best players in the NBA, sixteen would be in the West. Jalen Brunson, Donovan Mitchell, Tyrese Halliburton and then Nayland Brown, Jalen Brown or towns like is that those? Everyone else is in the is in the West. So does Jannis want to do that? And so I think all that's fascinating. I also think because of everything I just said, Eh, year twenty three, go home, win a title with Cleveland or at least make another finals is something for Lebron James. Oh, it's something that you couldn't go there if they's won sixty four games, made the finals, but when they just keep getting clocked in round two and it's like, oh, who's your starting three, Max Struce, I think I'm an upgrade.

Honest to God, Dan, if you were to list if Jannis goes West and Tatum is injured, if you were to list the twenty best players in the NBA, sixteen would be in the West. Jalen Brunson, Donovan Mitchell, Tyrese Halliburton and then Nayland Brown, Jalen Brown or towns like is that those? Everyone else is in the is in the West. So does Jannis want to do that? And so I think all that's fascinating. I also think because of everything I just said, Eh, year twenty three, go home, win a title with Cleveland or at least make another finals is something for Lebron James. Oh, it's something that you couldn't go there if they's won sixty four games, made the finals, but when they just keep getting clocked in round two and it's like, oh, who's your starting three, Max Struce, I think I'm an upgrade.

I think I would help out a little there.

I think I would help out a little there.

Now the real question there is what do the Cavs have to trade to get Bronny?

Now the real question there is what do the Cavs have to trade to get Bronny?

Because rob Olinka gonna hold their feet.

Because rob Olinka gonna hold their feet.

To fire on that one.

To fire on that one.

Boy, Uh, what do you think trying to handicap Lebron? You want to win one more title? You're not gonna win it with the Lakers? Well, I listen not. I don't think how they're they're constructed. I think Austin Reeves is probably the movable piece there. But I I mean, you got to get a big guy, and I don't know.

Boy, Uh, what do you think trying to handicap Lebron? You want to win one more title? You're not gonna win it with the Lakers? Well, I listen not. I don't think how they're they're constructed. I think Austin Reeves is probably the movable piece there. But I I mean, you got to get a big guy, and I don't know.

Do you trade Austin Reeves straight up for Malawatch like the kid out of Duke. So say he's gonna be that ninth pick just now.

Do you trade Austin Reeves straight up for Malawatch like the kid out of Duke. So say he's gonna be that ninth pick just now.

I mean he's he's got to develop. And now I got Lebron.

I mean he's he's got to develop. And now I got Lebron.

That probably yeah, I mean that to me makes a lot of sense for the Lakers. For Luca, like you know, a young defense, catch lobs, block shots. But for Lebron, I don't know. I so listen, I am such a Luka Doncic believer. I know that, you know, half the NBA fans seem to think he's just a fat alcoholic. I think he's a guy who carried a mediocre team to the finals last year. I think he'll be fine. I thought, and I it has broken like this for a while, that I that the way the brackets broken that I thought the Lakers had a really good chance to come out of the West. And now when you see it like you're like, oh, maybe they did. The problem is they played terror William Minnesota played great, So I don't I think. I don't think they'd be drawing dead as long as they added a big going into next year. But obviously the East, that path is wide open right now, and so I, yeah, the Cleveland thing to me is worth pondering for a moment. Now, he'd have to basically play for the minimum, and we know the rules on Lebron James. If he plays for the max, he's greedy, and if he plays for the minimum, he's rigging it. So he's gonna get criticized either way. But I think that's something that would be worth considering.

That probably yeah, I mean that to me makes a lot of sense for the Lakers. For Luca, like you know, a young defense, catch lobs, block shots. But for Lebron, I don't know. I so listen, I am such a Luka Doncic believer. I know that, you know, half the NBA fans seem to think he's just a fat alcoholic. I think he's a guy who carried a mediocre team to the finals last year. I think he'll be fine. I thought, and I it has broken like this for a while, that I that the way the brackets broken that I thought the Lakers had a really good chance to come out of the West. And now when you see it like you're like, oh, maybe they did. The problem is they played terror William Minnesota played great, So I don't I think. I don't think they'd be drawing dead as long as they added a big going into next year. But obviously the East, that path is wide open right now, and so I, yeah, the Cleveland thing to me is worth pondering for a moment. Now, he'd have to basically play for the minimum, and we know the rules on Lebron James. If he plays for the max, he's greedy, and if he plays for the minimum, he's rigging it. So he's gonna get criticized either way. But I think that's something that would be worth considering.

Being in New York. Are you caught up on the Knicks hysteria? Yeah?

Being in New York. Are you caught up on the Knicks hysteria? Yeah?

Oh yeah, and listen, I'm no, I'm no Dan Patrick. I don't get free tickets to things. I'm buying tickets to these games. Really, I'm yeah, because I don't ask for press passes because I feel like I don't know man, like I'm I don't want a I don't want to feel like they did me a favor.

Oh yeah, and listen, I'm no, I'm no Dan Patrick. I don't get free tickets to things. I'm buying tickets to these games. Really, I'm yeah, because I don't ask for press passes because I feel like I don't know man, like I'm I don't want a I don't want to feel like they did me a favor.

I own this whatever.

I own this whatever.

And I'm not covering like I'm not covering. I'm not going in the locker room, you know what I mean. I'm not covering the games. So no, I buy tickets. And so I went to Game two against Detroit. I went to Game three against Boston. So I've actually been to two Knicks losses, but yeah, it is exhilarating and the city feels an extra verb because the thing is this, the Knicks are the only team that everyone in the city roots for, like Yankees, Mets, Giants, Jets, you know, Rangers, Devil's Islanders. And I know people are like, what about the Brooklyn Nets. The Brooklyn Nets don't have fans. They don't and so the I did have season tickets to Brooklyn for a year because I didn't listen. I wanted to watch Kde and Kyrie and Harden, but I I got rid of those once they got rid of those players. But the Garden is really just unlike any other spot, and it is yeah, I mean the so, yeah, the city feels very alive.

And I'm not covering like I'm not covering. I'm not going in the locker room, you know what I mean. I'm not covering the games. So no, I buy tickets. And so I went to Game two against Detroit. I went to Game three against Boston. So I've actually been to two Knicks losses, but yeah, it is exhilarating and the city feels an extra verb because the thing is this, the Knicks are the only team that everyone in the city roots for, like Yankees, Mets, Giants, Jets, you know, Rangers, Devil's Islanders. And I know people are like, what about the Brooklyn Nets. The Brooklyn Nets don't have fans. They don't and so the I did have season tickets to Brooklyn for a year because I didn't listen. I wanted to watch Kde and Kyrie and Harden, but I I got rid of those once they got rid of those players. But the Garden is really just unlike any other spot, and it is yeah, I mean the so, yeah, the city feels very alive.

Are you coming to any games.

Are you coming to any games.

Now this guy?

Now this guy?

Once you've I mean I could at the finals. You're right, it just can't go to Nick.

Once you've I mean I could at the finals. You're right, it just can't go to Nick.

You hang out with Jordan after he wins another title.

You hang out with Jordan after he wins another title.

By the way, shout out to NBCIX. I know that's awesome, and I listen, what do you.

By the way, shout out to NBCIX. I know that's awesome, and I listen, what do you.

Think his role is going to be a gambling expert? Wow, that's a walk off. That's a walk off. That's Nick right, host of First Things First on Fox Sports One and What's Right with Nick Wright on YouTube wherever you get your podcast. We'll take a break. We'll be back after this and The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FS or stream us live on the Peacock app. Pete Rose and the White Sox the nineteen nineteen White Sox taken off the permanently ineligible list. That was the difference. People thought it was a lifetime ban, and then Pete dying in September, therefore time to lift the ban. It was a permanently ineligible it was not a lifetime ban. The commissioner has since re edited, re edited or reframed it to say now it's the lifetime ban. Pacers close out the Cavaliers. They win it in five gentlemen sweep. They like to call that. The Thunders survive a big night from Joker. They lead three games to two, eight seven seven three. DP show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a GP show. Our stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. And we say good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app. One hundred and fifty years of Greatness and that's where horses are crowned the oldest tradition in sports, the Preakedness Stakes. It'll be live on NBC and Peacock coming up this weekend. Whole question, Seaton before we get to Johnny Bench. Yet we got up there right now. Do you agree with Rob Manfred's decision? Sixty one percent say yes they do. It's bringing Johnny Bench the Hall of Famer Johnny great Sea. Again. Let me ask you the question, do you agree with what the commissioner did yesterday?

Think his role is going to be a gambling expert? Wow, that's a walk off. That's a walk off. That's Nick right, host of First Things First on Fox Sports One and What's Right with Nick Wright on YouTube wherever you get your podcast. We'll take a break. We'll be back after this and The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FS or stream us live on the Peacock app. Pete Rose and the White Sox the nineteen nineteen White Sox taken off the permanently ineligible list. That was the difference. People thought it was a lifetime ban, and then Pete dying in September, therefore time to lift the ban. It was a permanently ineligible it was not a lifetime ban. The commissioner has since re edited, re edited or reframed it to say now it's the lifetime ban. Pacers close out the Cavaliers. They win it in five gentlemen sweep. They like to call that. The Thunders survive a big night from Joker. They lead three games to two, eight seven seven three. DP show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a GP show. Our stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. And we say good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app. One hundred and fifty years of Greatness and that's where horses are crowned the oldest tradition in sports, the Preakedness Stakes. It'll be live on NBC and Peacock coming up this weekend. Whole question, Seaton before we get to Johnny Bench. Yet we got up there right now. Do you agree with Rob Manfred's decision? Sixty one percent say yes they do. It's bringing Johnny Bench the Hall of Famer Johnny great Sea. Again. Let me ask you the question, do you agree with what the commissioner did yesterday?

I do.

I do.

I just I think he's done more work than you can imagine to try to figure this out. I think it had to be agreed upon by the Hall of Fame, though I think that was a question mark that had to be done. Jane is the person that's basically, you know, what's the sanctification of the Hall of Fame and that it hopefully all members of the Hall of Fame. Although we know there's been question marks about it, whether it be peds or whether it be past history or people that have been elected to the Hall of Fame. But for the commissioner, I think he I know personally that I've talked to him. I know there's others that have talked to him. I know that he's trying to get the temperature of what it was. I think the temperature was mixed. I think I think like the voting is sixty one percent. I think the percentages were one way or the other with some Hall of famers. Do you take a poll of the Hall of Famers, or you take a poll of the writers, or you take a poll of just the dan Etz and I think you're going to wind well. I mean, there are fans and they understand what's happened with Pete and with the Black Sox scandals. I mean the one person I mean, as you may, as you know, Ted Williams was a staunch supporter of shirless show Jackson, and they keep saying, well, there was no evidence against it, and he hit three something or four hundred. So I guess the feel is all I can say is it is a perfect time for this thing to come out, because right now, as we prepare for the day. I am not in Cincinnati, but they are honoring Pete at the stadium. There will be forty two thousand people coming out and maybe more now that this announcement has been done. But for the Rose family, I'm extremely happy for them that it's all somewhat behind us.

I just I think he's done more work than you can imagine to try to figure this out. I think it had to be agreed upon by the Hall of Fame, though I think that was a question mark that had to be done. Jane is the person that's basically, you know, what's the sanctification of the Hall of Fame and that it hopefully all members of the Hall of Fame. Although we know there's been question marks about it, whether it be peds or whether it be past history or people that have been elected to the Hall of Fame. But for the commissioner, I think he I know personally that I've talked to him. I know there's others that have talked to him. I know that he's trying to get the temperature of what it was. I think the temperature was mixed. I think I think like the voting is sixty one percent. I think the percentages were one way or the other with some Hall of famers. Do you take a poll of the Hall of Famers, or you take a poll of the writers, or you take a poll of just the dan Etz and I think you're going to wind well. I mean, there are fans and they understand what's happened with Pete and with the Black Sox scandals. I mean the one person I mean, as you may, as you know, Ted Williams was a staunch supporter of shirless show Jackson, and they keep saying, well, there was no evidence against it, and he hit three something or four hundred. So I guess the feel is all I can say is it is a perfect time for this thing to come out, because right now, as we prepare for the day. I am not in Cincinnati, but they are honoring Pete at the stadium. There will be forty two thousand people coming out and maybe more now that this announcement has been done. But for the Rose family, I'm extremely happy for them that it's all somewhat behind us.

Why wait until Pete dies?

Why wait until Pete dies?

Well, that's I think that there was some concern that it would He wanted to get into the game of baseball as far as what has been talked about. He wanted to still be a manager or something like that. I think that created some problems, the fact that whether somebody would actually hire him at this point or what position he would be in. And I think there was still okay, you know, we still have to have a certain caution here. We got to put up some yellow flags and in most cases a lot of red flags and make sure that none of this happens. I really believe it was a push by so many people. I think the Commissioner's ruled on it twice. I know Bud Jim Bud Seeley ruled on it two or three times, and the consensus was that he was not going to He was permanently banned, and so I think there's they're cutting hairs a little bit on whether now that he's deceased.

Well, that's I think that there was some concern that it would He wanted to get into the game of baseball as far as what has been talked about. He wanted to still be a manager or something like that. I think that created some problems, the fact that whether somebody would actually hire him at this point or what position he would be in. And I think there was still okay, you know, we still have to have a certain caution here. We got to put up some yellow flags and in most cases a lot of red flags and make sure that none of this happens. I really believe it was a push by so many people. I think the Commissioner's ruled on it twice. I know Bud Jim Bud Seeley ruled on it two or three times, and the consensus was that he was not going to He was permanently banned, and so I think there's they're cutting hairs a little bit on whether now that he's deceased.

Now, it's okay, you probably know this better than anybody. How do you think Pete would react today if he were alive about damn time?

Now, it's okay, you probably know this better than anybody. How do you think Pete would react today if he were alive about damn time?

What took him so long? About damn time? Uh? No. I think he wanted to He wanted to be voted on.

What took him so long? About damn time? Uh? No. I think he wanted to He wanted to be voted on.

I think he felt like he never had that opportunity and everything else, and I think that was his one one thing. I think he always believed that had he been on the ballot, that he would have been voted into the Hall of Fame. Now, what the what the Hall of Fame has not done, I think is make a space for Pete in the Hall. And you know, we we honor different groups of baseball players. We honored catchers, and we honored day, We honor the heroes and what did baseball and legends and everything else. I think it's a perfect spot for the Hall of Fame to in so many ways. And I think you'll see it in Cincinnati on the board today. I think they'll highlight all the things and the person that he was one hundred and forty five pounds, He was not drafted, he had to be he had to be had at a scout, which was an uncle give him a tryout. Then he winds up being an All Star at five different positions. Then he's you know, he wins the MVP of the World Series. These are all things that you can honor him with and praise him for. And I think I heard Mike Smith talking about the fact that and the other players on MLB talking about the fact that they were they wanted to be like Pete. They wanted to play like Pete, they wanted to hit first slide, they wanted to do all the things he was. He was a persona personification of hustle and attitude and love for the game of baseball. And the rules are the rules, but for Pete, he I think he should be honored at the Hall of Fame just with video, but you also tell the story of why and while why this happened, and what the ramifications are.

I think he felt like he never had that opportunity and everything else, and I think that was his one one thing. I think he always believed that had he been on the ballot, that he would have been voted into the Hall of Fame. Now, what the what the Hall of Fame has not done, I think is make a space for Pete in the Hall. And you know, we we honor different groups of baseball players. We honored catchers, and we honored day, We honor the heroes and what did baseball and legends and everything else. I think it's a perfect spot for the Hall of Fame to in so many ways. And I think you'll see it in Cincinnati on the board today. I think they'll highlight all the things and the person that he was one hundred and forty five pounds, He was not drafted, he had to be he had to be had at a scout, which was an uncle give him a tryout. Then he winds up being an All Star at five different positions. Then he's you know, he wins the MVP of the World Series. These are all things that you can honor him with and praise him for. And I think I heard Mike Smith talking about the fact that and the other players on MLB talking about the fact that they were they wanted to be like Pete. They wanted to play like Pete, they wanted to hit first slide, they wanted to do all the things he was. He was a persona personification of hustle and attitude and love for the game of baseball. And the rules are the rules, but for Pete, he I think he should be honored at the Hall of Fame just with video, but you also tell the story of why and while why this happened, and what the ramifications are.

I think the immediate reaction from a lot of people was Pete's going to get into the Hall of Fame. And I've cautioned my audience to say they're not going to vote on this till December of twenty twenty seven. And there's other guys on that ballot like Steve Garvey and Louis Tiant and you know some really good players shoeless Joe Jackson's going to be on there as well. So it's not a foregone conclusion Pete gets in or even gets on the ballot. But you know it's going to be a process here, and people shouldn't think we can.

I think the immediate reaction from a lot of people was Pete's going to get into the Hall of Fame. And I've cautioned my audience to say they're not going to vote on this till December of twenty twenty seven. And there's other guys on that ballot like Steve Garvey and Louis Tiant and you know some really good players shoeless Joe Jackson's going to be on there as well. So it's not a foregone conclusion Pete gets in or even gets on the ballot. But you know it's going to be a process here, and people shouldn't think we can.

I think we can assume that his name will be there. I think they there's going to be the need for that to happen. But I think there's you know, there's you know, there's guys. You know they've been on Some of these guys have been on the ballot for twenty years. I mean, you know, they keep thinking, or they'll think and you know famous words of Frank Robinson and Bob Feller and this isn't for the God, this is for the great and so and that is exactly the way it was framed. And so here here we are at this point saying, okay, you know, we know Pete Rose great good gosh, he's forty two hundred and fifty six hits, you know, and you know all the teams that he helped in all the World series. We know it's there but I think that would be the ultimate honor. But again, you're, okay, we're going to take twelve or sixteen guys. We're gonna take four owners, we're gonna take four media, and we're gonna take eight players, and we're gonna have to get twelve votes. And you know, Marvin Miller didn't make it in forever because the owners were never going to vote for him because I felt like during the drug situation, he could have controlled that better, and yet he had to allow players to get off of the drugs before they could test them, and that's why it took long that And you can also say that Sosa and the Peds and Maguire saved the game of baseball. All of these things are suppositions. All these things are not proven, but all these things are true. And so now you got to get twelve guys to go to sixteen guys to go into a room, and you got to have twelve yeses.