The Dan Patrick ShowDan recaps Jameis Winston's roller coaster of a performance on Monday Night Football. Legendary broadcaster Mike Golic discusses how good he thinks Notre Dame is. And Andrew Luck joins the show to discuss his new role as Stanford University's general manager of football.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio recapping what we saw with the Broncos and the Browns last night.
That was surprisingly entertaining and you got to see a little bit of the good, the bad, the ugly with Jameis Winston.
But he does give you a pulse, He does give you hope.
There is the entertainment portion of the program with him, now that's open to interpretation. Are you entertained by him if you're a Browns fan, I don't know if you go, well, you know what, it was entertained by him. He was going to win a game for you, and then he helped lose a game for you. But at least he gives me a chance. Deshaun Watson wasn't taking any chances. He didn't want to run, he didn't want to force anything, and he just seems so irrelevant, like it seems like that was such a long time ago that Deshaun Watson played for the Cleveland Browns.
But Jameis Winston, he tried. He's not afraid.
There are times when he should try less us and maybe a little more afraid. But he even had the special pregame speech last night.
I want to think about this opportunity as we all know that that's what we do it for.
All right, We've worked all our life for this moment. It's just us today.
Let's have your on the back, energy, execution, precision, and domination all right together.
If we go one, three three.
Once again, he is entertaining. But you had to win the turnover battle. According to the Broncos head coach, Sean Paton, the turnover battle, you know, was close, and then we ended up winning it and that really sealed the game.
You know, I'm proud of the way that we fought and we got that next one that that was most important.
Once again, you got to win the turnover battle. Just to ask Kevin Stefanski, the Browns head coach, you have to.
Win that turnover margin. That's the first key to these games.
And and it's hard to go on the road and be a good football team if you turn the ball over like we did.
And that's just the truth.
That's the turnover battle, and you've got to win the turnover battle. Jamis Winston throws for four ninety seven, four touchdowns, three interceptions, two really big interceptions in about two minutes and that did it. Bo Nicks had a moment there, ninety three yard touchdown pass to Marvin Mims.
It was fun.
I didn't expect a lot. I expected Denver to win. I just never know what to expect with Cleveland. But I thought Cleveland's defense was going to be more of a factor. I thought Denver's defense because Denver's defense in the beginning part of the season was really good and Jamis Winston carved him up just a little bit. All right, Seeton Pole. Question from the first hour is going to be what.
The first hour poll question is going to be the most entertaining player in the NFL, which Paul has said we can define as we like. Okay, Lamar Jackson very entertaining, Josh Allen, you could put into He's mildly entertaining, Jamis sure, sure, this just says Barkley, which I'm assuming means Saquon not Charles Patrick Mahomes very entertaining, or Matt Barkley. I could be Matt Barkley as well. Yeah, yeah, good, call my bad. Anybody else that you would want to throw in there? And who can we take.
Off that list? Well, recentcy bias, Jameis Winston has to be in there. Yeah, did he eat a W last night pregame? For some reason, I thought he had the W that he was going to eat the W.
Yes, PAULI, I love his stat line four touchdown, three picks. I would love to know the most combined touchdowns thrown in a game, because he threw six touchdowns last night, four to his team.
Two to the other.
We're checking that saying.
I was trying to get a defensive player on this pole question, and I thought about Miles Garrett because when I'm watching the Browns and I watch them play, I start by watching Miles Garrett and then I go to the ball. No, Troy Palamalo back in the day was an entertaining defensive player. I don't know if there's a defensive player that can make this pole question.
Yes, Todd, Now you can't spell Winston without I int Is that too soon?
Bud?
You can't spell Winston without wi n.
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James is going to help somebody win. I don't know who he's gonna help somebody win. No, he's fun. He's fun.
I don't want him as my starting quarterback, but given the circumstances, I'm fine with him being in there. It just feels like you have a chance. Where's Deshaun Watson? You didn't, you didn't have a pulse. He played scared, He was very tenuous. Winston at least tries. You know, he's pushing the envelope a little bit too much. Yes, but I mean that's the guy who's the you know, the only member of the thirty th club in football history. I believe, thirty touchdowns, thirty interceptions.
Yeah, you get the sense of Jameis Winston though that he might not be aware that there's something to be nervous about. Like he would be like, yeah, but how great am I that I've been blessed to be put in this position to throw three interceptions?
How could I lose? Yeah?
He also he also had a big request post game. Here's Jameis Winston.
In times like this.
You know that's it is.
It's an opportunity took continue took off out of the Lord, even through the toughest circumstances.
I know him better than this, I know.
I'm like, I'm just praying for the Lord to deliver me from pick sixes. Like that's just that's not me. Like phenomenal game, do some great things, But I miss it.
Up deliver me from pick sixes? But didn't the Lord? Bless those defensive backs with the pick stop getting caught up in that stuff? Which which one is the why isn't the Lord more on your side?
Then?
Is?
Why is the Lord more on the other team side? I don't know, because the Lord on their team? They're like, man, how great is the Lord that he's letting us?
Ah, bless the Lord from the pick sixes?
What he's serious though?
He's serious. Yes, he's not in on the joke. He's not making a joke or playing a role. That's James Winston.
He's a keyampal character come to life. He has a real life camp character.
Yes, yes, deliver me from Pick sixes, Priest Jesus.
It would be pretty sick though, if like aliens came down and landed, and we could choose to send one representative of all human kinds to say, go talk to the alien. I'm pretty sure I would say jameis Winston and they would quickly send him back. They're like, who is this? We've already been here? Interesting? What is this funny? I didn't realize we'd been in contact.
Jerry Judy acting like Jerry Rice. Last night he had.
Two hundred and thirty five receiving yards, most ever by a player against his former team. The previous high was Tarall Owens against the forty nine ers back in two thousand and eight.
Stat of the day, Sat of the day that pass stead of the day?
Stat of the day, here comes that?
What stat of the day?
By the way, according to DraftKings this morning, the odds to win the offensive Rookie of the Year, it's still Jade and Daniels by a good margin. Then it's bo Nicks, and then brock Bowers the tight end for the Raiders. You have to go out of your way to watch the Raiders. But when you watch, you can't miss brock Bowers. Can't miss him. But played well, you know, not great, but played well, opportunistic. But if you go back to last year, Sean Payton gets there, he's the savior. Then all of a sudden, all right, you got Russell Wilson where they clearly didn't get along, or Sean clearly didn't want him to be his quarterback. And Russ played okay, but you know the writing was on the wall. Sean Payton wanted to get his quote quarterback, and he got him in bow Knicks. See you send Russell away, take a huge cap hit, and he goes to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh gets him for a bargain and now they're leading their division. Broncos could be going to the playoffs. So both teams won. Now, granted it was an expensive decision for the Broncos, but they got their guy bow Knicks on a rookie quarterback. Now Pittsburgh is going to have to decide how much is Russell Wilson worth after this season. Now, I still maintain let's play this out. Let's see what you do when when you get to the postseason. Are you one and done? Do you make a run here? And that might over and flate under and flate Russell Wilson's value in the offseason, you still have justin fields?
Are you going to keep?
I mean they were kind of in quarterback purgatory before they had Russ, before they had justin Fields, and so they had to make a decision here, can we get somebody who's threatening down the field? And Russ has been threatening down the field. He's played well coming back from the injury. But it feels like both of these teams benefited in the off season with big decision. Now, Pittsburgh's wasn't a big decision, but I mean Kenny Pickett, he was not threatening. And if you're gonna throw for less than fifteen touchdowns in today's NFL, you better have a great, great, great ground game there and a great defense. And normally they have a good running game and they have a really good defense there, but they can move on now all of a sudd and you get somebody who is going to make the defense at least aware that you can throw the ball down the field. So Pittsburgh ends up benefiting from this, and Denver certainly has with Sean Payton, because Sean Payton's rolling the dice. You're getting paid eighteen million dollars a year, and you're going to get rid of somebody who's going to cost you what fifty sixty seventy million dollars when it's all said and done, and you're going to get bow Knicks, who was the last of all the quarterbacks drafted. So you get the rookie deal, but he better be your rookie. He better be your quarterback because you didn't get Caleb, you didn't get Jaden, even JJ McCarthy.
We're not sure how good he is.
Drake May they had to take the leftovers there and bow Knicks, But see bo Nicks is what twenty four and he's been at Auburn playing in the SEC. He was at Oregon. You're playing in the PAC twelve and at that age, with that experience with two different franchises, and you're getting paid while you're in college. So the transition where I disagree with Tom Brady is a little bit easier. That's still difficult, but you have him able to make the transition. Jaden Daniels making the transition. Caleb Williams has played pretty well. Drake May only played at North Carolina, but he's probably twenty three, twenty four. You're getting these guys now, Bryce Young and Anthony Richardson. They're still younger than these quarterbacks. They're going to be younger than the quarterbacks that are taking Shaudoor Sanders. They're younger than shaudor Sanders. They're still trying to get that. The reps there learned the game. That's why when they sat down, they got a chance to learn a little bit and they played pretty well. But when you're you've got fifty starts or more in college, you're able to have that experience of being in tough situations. Here, Bryce Young went in a tough situation at Alabama. You're playing in Alabama. Anthony Richardson didn't play enough at Florida. Now we're going to find out just how good they are maybe the next, you know, five weeks here. But I'm glad that these two franchise. Remember Bryce Young was reportedly maybe available or teams were inquiring about him at the trade deadline. Anthony Richardson getting bench for Joe Flacco. So you have these situations. And so when I see bow Nicks, I don't see a rookie quarterback. I well, I see an experience first year quarterback, because when you say rookie, it has usually a negative connotation. But he has poise, he hangs in there, he's tough, and he's fortunate that he has Sean Payton.
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He's Mike Golan, co host of Gojo and Golwick on DraftKings Network. Former NFL defensive lineman joining us on the program. Good to see it, Mike, Let's let's go with the quarterback sliding situation with Trevor Lawrence and does the NFL should the NFL look at this in the offseason with any modifications?
Well, I mean, really the issue has been the quarterbacks on the sideline. You have Pat Mahomes making that move like he's going to step out of bounds and going inbounds. Caleb Williams on Thanksgiving doing that and almost got sought in half by Jack Campbell, and Caleb Williams said he had a problem with that hit. Well, you know what, I got a problem with you trying to fake going out of bounds and staying inbounds. You deserve to get smoked if you get smoked. So those are situations where listen, defenders are playing at a disadvantage with a question about hitting an offensive player, whether they get a penalty, or even if there's no penalty, they get a letter during the week that they get fined forty six thousand dollars. As well as far as the sliding dan that's such a tough bang bang play because the quarterback is going to try and get the first down, So they're gonna try. They have to start their slide after the line because when they slide feed first, it goes where the butt is when they start to slide, so they have to wait an extra beat to slide while a defender gets kind of handcuffed and when they can hit him. So yes, I do think they're gonna have to do something, but they're not dan because they're not going to do anything that favors the defense. They're gonna do everything to And I'm not saying this as a bitter former defensive lineman. I'm saying it because that's been the trend. The rule changes have all gone to the offense to try and make and for the health of the players, which has normally been the quarterbacks and the wide receivers.
But I wondered, and we're workshopping this this morning, can I have a quarterback who acts like he's a punt returner that he will signal he's giving himself up and if he extends that then it's going to be a penalty. Like just you're running with the football and you have your hand up to say I'm going down. I And I'm open to critique criticism, but I'm trying to figure out.
I get what you're saying. I get you're trying to have a signal that says I'm going down. But the problem is going to be again, when they're trying to get the first down, they want to reach the sticks, and the defender wants to stop them from reaching the sticks. But they have all the protection if they're going to slide feed first. So even if they do it, what's considered late and the defender is basically already airborne. You know what the league says, it's on the defender. The defender has to make the adjustment, just like landing on the quarterback. The defender has to make the adjustment, which is ridiculous. But they're not going to change that. But you're along the right lines of finding a way to give up for the quarterback to give himself up, just like receivers do when they want to call time out. They just hit the ground and they're done, you know, and they call time out so the clock stops.
I don't know.
If it'll be too quick to give like a fair catch and slide, because again they're worried about getting the first down. But I think you're on the right path of we have to find an answer to this. Now, the hit by you know Shair was was what he led with his form and oh yeah, I mean that was that was that one we have to take out of the equation.
Yeah, that was intent and that's why I had no problem with him being suspended. How would you describe Jameis Winston if somebody had never seen him play.
I mean, I think.
You you get exactly what you saw in that game. You look at all the years where he started double digit games he had double digit interceptions, including the classic year in Tampa when he had thirty three touchdowns and thirty interceptions. But he always if he started more than ten or eleven games, he always had in the teams of interceptions.
So it's it's.
Kind of hit. And he's been that way from Florida State. He's been a gun slinger. He just tries. He feels the ball will go through the defender and into his receiver's hands. He has that mentality and at times it looks great and at times it costs you, like it did in the game against denver Well.
He wants to be Brett Favre, Yeah, but he's not Brett farv You know, no, no, but but I do love the personality that he brings like he gives us a chance, he.
Gives us a better he gives a better pregame speeds than Brett Favre, that's for sure. I mean, listen, teammates love him.
I mean they love him.
And just think about if the Browns actually started him for the entire season now, he would probably have multiple double digit interceptions. But the offense you saw the statistics up. They laid him out last night. They're just a better team with Winston at quarterback. But they're screwed. I mean the next two years, seventy two point nine million each year is the cap hit for Deshaun.
Watson watching that Buffalo game. Worse snow game that you ever played in was where.
Probably my last year in ninety three with the Dolphins, we played the Cowboys in Dallas before the new stadium, obviously, and there was a big snowstorm and we played in like a foot of snow. That's when leet wet. That's when we were kicking the game winning short field goal. It was blocked and leon let slid into it and we got repossession of it and kicked the game winning field goal that was probably about a foot of snow. And quite honestly, Dan, I know, I played nine years in the NFL and that's supposedly good, but I was not a great athlete, and when the weather was worse, everybody's athletic ability and listen, I'm a self detegrating guy, but I'm serious about that. All of a sudden, the old linemen weren't as strong as they could be because they couldn't use their leverage or plant their feet as much. And everybody he wasn't as fast as they normally were. So I loved it when the weather.
Was crappy, you were Reggie White in the snow. Yeah, it was the poor man's Reggie White. Yes, very you were Reggie very White.
Uh.
He's my Golic, co host of Gojo and Golic on Draft Kings Network. Where do you stand with the planting the flag after a game?
Listen, I mean, I know they asked Baker Mayfield about it. By the way, remember Baker Mayfield planted a flag in artificial turf, so.
It didn't it didn't even stay up.
I mean, all of a sudden, there are fights like crazy that are breaking out. What's the easiest thing to do, Dan is to stop the plant flagging. Just outlaw, just say you can't do it anymore, because it's just these are eighteen to twenty two year olds who are just ramped up, testosterone filled guys, ramped up knowing you know, you had sixty minutes to fight and win a football game and you didn't, and now you're showing more effort and fighting a team from putting a flag in your logo. The easiest thing is to just outlaw it, but players will find something else to do. You know what, they'll do the just pick Michigan, Michigan State, Michigan will just go to the center of the Ohio State logo and just start kicking it with their cleats and just turfing it that way, and a fight will still start. So you probably have to ban the flag planting and then you have to come down heavy on players if there is a postgame fight. You have plenty of film and tape to see who's doing what, and you're gonna have to discipline them. I mean, it's just it's getting carried away.
Your Notre dame fighting Irish look pretty good. I don't you know you have the Northern Illinois interruption, But they're a really good balanced team.
I don't know how good they are, do you.
I think the biggest improvement, two biggest improvements during the year was the offensive line, which was really young, but they've all grown together now and Riley Leonard in the passing game has gotten a lot better. Defense is great, and the running game is great because that old line is matured. My fear, Dan is they've blown out everybody since Northern Illinois. Now USC was a little closer, they needed a couple pick sixes. But my fear is when they have to pass. Now, Riley Leonards is improving and passing, but they've been blowing teams out, But what if they're down two scores and need to pass to get back in the game. That part of the passing game hasn't really been tested yet, and the competition only gets stronger in the playoffs, so that may get tested. But they're listen. They're playing as well as anybody in the country right now, and they're going to have a home game and what I hope will be a warm weather SEC team and I hope there's three feet of snow.
How about Miami in South Bend?
So yeah, listen, both my boys were on Notre Dame when they played in the Sun Bowl and l Passo and they played the U and it was like thirty degrees and the Miami players, I mean, it was a blowout. They just did not want to play in the cold. So that's where Greg sank and the SEC is going to get mad when they see their teams traveling to Penn State, to Ohio State, to Notre Dame and playing in the first round.
And Boise State and yeah, that's right, and Boise State as well. Yes, your NFL MVP right now is you know what I mean?
I think you got to look at Josh Allen and what he's doing with that offense. I mean, Cook's running well to help the offense. They got help with the receiver position, but they go how Josh Allen goes. And right now they're one loss by Kansas City away from having the number one seed, but they still got to get over the hump in the playoffs. But it's tough not to look at obviously the quarterbacks Lamar Jackson, but I would take Josh Allen over him. And you have to look at Sakuon Barkley. You know, I'm one of those not a big fan of the Heisman because it normally goes to a quarterback, but it won't this year to go to Travis Hunter, rightfully so, so I kind of like when other positions get involved in these races.
You know, to say this, maybe maybe not to you, but I think the most valuable player on the Eagles is somebody that you wouldn't expect to be named the most valuable player on the Eagles.
Who is that?
Jalen Carter.
Let me tell you, you know, when people have started bringing up Dan that he is kind of the reincarnation of Jerome Brown, my former teammate, and that that is spot on. I mean, Jalen Carter plays on the other side of the line just like Jerome did, quickness, strength, leverage. He is a one man wrecking crew. I would completely agree with you. We know that's not going to happen. But as far as being an MVP, but MVP of the team, I mean you could certainly see that probably be Saquon Barkley. But what an impact that middle interior D line is.
Having more of a mess the Jets of the Giants.
I would say the Jets because they they gave up assets to build the team not only gave up assets but brought in older veteran players for a run, kind of like what Tampa Bay did with Tom and it worked out because they got a Super Bowl. But now you brought in players like a Tyron Smith whose career is probably over. You brought in other older players, and you traded assets away four players and it didn't work.
You have to blow the entire thing up.
With the Giants, at least they didn't. They don't have the aging vets and they didn't give up assets to bring in players. So I would say the Jets, but they're both in dad shape. But I would say the Jets in worst shape.
Good to talk to you, my best of the family. Thanks for joining us.
You got it.
But that's Mike Golik.
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He's Andrew Luck, the general manager of Stanford University Football, and I can honestly say I didn't think I'd ever talked to you again, So welcome back. Where have you been?
We've been living the dream? You know, I didn't think I'd ever talked to you again that has well. I gotta be honest, I'm not sure I could help in the D and double D conversation.
That I was listening to the show, so I don't know what I'm walking into after the show.
Okay, how does this happen? How did this job come about? And that you were willing to take it?
Yes, my wife and I we moved back to Palo Alto with our daughters to a little over two years ago. I came back to do a master's in education. We didn't know what we wanted to do with life, but we knew, you know, the roads probably ran back through Stanford and Frankly had a meeting with the president of university about some stuff on athletics. I've been volunteering and helping out and volunteer coaching high school football across the road at Palo Alto High School. The Vikings was sitting with the president, and I think through the course of a conversation and through the course of some of his conversations with other folks in the athletic department around the university, realized that this probably made sense, and it did make sense, And when I was asked, I didn't hesitate. I love Stanford. I love Stanford Football. I'm a product of this place. I believe in this place. I believe in the pursuit of competitive excellence across the board and academics, athletics, socially and happy to be a part of it.
Now officially, okay, what is your job? Officially?
Yeah, general manager of football, So I oversee and lead the football department. And this is a officially day two. So he took caught up to speed. I could not be more excited to work with Troy Taylor. He's an innovative offensive mind. I think he's laid the groundwork for sustained success here. It couldn't be more excited to work with the rest of the coaching staff, the players on the team. I mean, it's a hot and heavy recruiting cycle right now. I am learning a lot on the fly. It's a little bit of drinking from the fire hose. I'll be honest. I think I feel like a rookie again in the NFL. And I remember, you know, Bruce arians having very colorful allegories for what it was like to be a rookie that I can't repeat on your show. But I keep thinking of those because I haven't felt this combination of excitement and also being overwhelmed. I mean, it's incredible, but I'm just trying to play my part, trying to be a good team player.
The challenges of NIL and the transfer portal at Stanford are what.
Yeah, they exist, certainly, and like any challenge, I think we're viewing it as an opportunity. I believe deeply and the unique value proposition of the athletic and academic experience here at Stanford and that's not being sacrificed in any way, shape or form, and we're doubling down on that. And also I'm under no illusion. We're under no illusion about what the current state of college football and college athletics really writ large but especially college football is, and I think we also know it's going to keep changing. No one knows where this is going in two three, four shoot one year, two year, three or four year, five years, but we realize we need to be competitive and we will be. And I would not have taken this job that I not think we could be competitive and getting the best, the brightest, the toughest, really good football players. And at the end of the day, if I learned anything through you know, my high school, college and NFL career is that it's all about the players. At the end of the day, it's all about the players. Everything needs to point to make sure that they are set up to succeed. And we realize, I realize, and we realize here that nil is.
Part of the game.
Where is college football headed Let's say in five years, Oh.
Gosh, I think I think there are too numerous a pass that that could be taken. But I tell you what, we know it's not going to be the same as is today.
You know that. That's that's what we know.
And and part of part of this role in my role, and I think the setup, the structure of this is that that President eleven here at Stanford is realizing our athletic director, but our mirrors realizing that that you know, we've got to be able to adapt to change. Everybody is going to have to be able to adapt to change. That's part of why we're taking this step with having a general manager sort of a top a top the football organization so that wind change comes, we're flexible enough, we're nimble enough, uh to take the appropriate steps that are best for our university in our athletic department, in our in our student athletes.
But you see an NFL format coming up with college football.
You know it's this is speculation, Dan anything, you as.
A GM have to think down the road of how do we fit into the landscape here?
Absolutely and one. And we got to win to fit in a landscape.
We got to win, I mean like period, you know, period, and that's that is the north are and winning, you know, in in in constance, in in in alignment with the values of this university, which I did deeply believe in. So we got to win, period, and we're gonna win. Uh And and I know I lived it here against you know, the odds, and and and and we've lived it and and won at this university.
And where is it going? Does it?
Does it end up looking like a professional model? I mean, it's it's starting to today, it's starting to this year. So I certainly see that being one of the roads that that that you know could could could be taken.
He's Andrew Luck GM of Stanford Football. How much do you miss competition?
Oh? You know.
Part of volunteer coaching at Pally High for the past two years was was to to sort of tend to that fire, uh if you will within me. And and you know, watching the last couple of games of Stanford, last three games, knowing that I was gonna, you know, probably assume this role. Uh was a feeling I hadn't had for a while.
And I'll be here. I'll be honest, I got nerve this.
I mean, I haven't had butterflies like that in a while. And I realized, Man, I can't, I can't. You know, it's the fourth court. I can't go out on the field anymore and take a snap and you know, call a play.
I think I can't do that.
I got to sit up sit up here on the stands with my five year old daughter and cheer. So it's a uh, it'll it'll be a it'll be a new learning experience in that way as well. But yeah, you know, I I I was curious what the competitive fire would be like when when retiring from the NFL, uh frankly, and and it's uh, you know, honestly, it feels a little bit life affirming to have that, to have that full body get into it feeling during a football game again, I uh looking forward to that.
What's it like though? You take off that uniform. You get rid of that career, you go home and you're raising babies. You're a stay at home dad. How would like give me the you know, the transition. How long did it take before you got into dad mode where you're raising daughters, You're changing diapers, there's daycare, there's feeding, there's all of these things.
Let me tell you, there aren't seventy thousand people cheering for you change a diaper at three am and then have to go get a you know, a yogurt out of the fridge for your wife because she's hungry and so you know, and you know, our daughter Lucy, she didn't care.
What was going on in my life. She needed the support.
So it was Uh, yes, it was a transition. I am thankful and grateful. I can't imagine my life without it. I think it brought a perspective that I certainly needed at a very deep level.
Uh.
And and you know, we have two beautiful daughters. I would not have changed my time in the world with them over the past five years for anything, anything, but this time now made sense for us as a family.
Uh.
And it wasn't And yeah, it was. You know, I feel like I lived the domestic life for five years and supported supported the family and different ways. And again I'm thankful for it and grateful for it. Wouldn't wouldn't change it for the world, and and we as a family, we're ready for this opportunity back at Stanford as well. Look, I met my wife here, you know, we met as freshman in the dorm. She was a gymnast. So Stanford Stanford athletics, football, gymnastics, the rest of the sports. This is this is the greatest athletic department, I'd say, in the world. Like you know, you look at the Olympics. We had fifty nine athletes, We had over thirty medals. You know, we we support a team USA in a way that I think folks don't quite appreciate or realize. And I'm I'm excited for Stanford football to continue to do it's part to support the greatest athletic department in the in the world or at least the country.
Let me go deep with you here.
Were you a football player or a guy who was really good at playing football?
You know, that's a great question, U I and I have I have reflected on that when when I when I retired from the NFL. And I think I've noticed in talking to other folks who have retired, and you know, I think, and no matter whatever the circumstances, it's difficult. Whether it's after college, after a short career, after a long career, it's a it's a it's a difficult and challenging process. And there was a grieving period and a grieving period because a part of my identity died, you know, and and that part of me was a football player, and that was a huge, huge part of me. Uh, certainly I was more than just a football player, just like everybody out there and doing. You know, you're more than just the host of the Dan Patrick Show, the illustrious Dan Patrick Show.
But there's a grieving period.
Uh And and and of course life goes on and daughters and family and and and other things, you know, begin to fill that void, but you have to fill that void with something positive.
It almost felt like there were more questions about your retirement than the end of the Sopranos.
I don't know if that's a good bad thing.
Well, your career died, and somebody may have died in the Sopranos, but it was just one of those where it's like, wait, what happened? Because they finally got around to giving you an offensive line they I mean, you know, and I guess everybody was shocked that you could walk away from that when it felt like the Colts finally caught up to you and protecting you and giving you a good team around you.
Yeah, I'll push back. I don't view it that way with the Colts at all. I always viewed that, I will.
You got beat up so much earlier in your career, and I said, this is a war of attrition. This is when Quintin Nelson got there. I go, yes, he's got an offensive lineman there. You got beat up too much. I think you fall out of love with football.
Well you know part of it. Well, I will push back again.
Frankly, Dan, I never doubted the support I got from anybody in the Colts building, including how we built things and what we did. I I know, I played with teammates that that were ass kickers, that were great, that that worked their butts off. I certainly, and if I got beat up a little early, it's because of how I played, you know, and and what I did and how I ran around.
Were you like Josh Allen though, did you do you see similarities with Josh Allen of you know what, a little reckless?
Yeah?
Maybe maybe perhaps, And I'm I'm hesitant to make any comparisons. I think some oftentimes we end up devaluing somewhere along the line. So shoot, if if i'm if I'm now retroactively compared to Josh Allen, that's a good thing. He's amazing.
He's doing so pretty sore, so were you.
Yeah?
But and I'll say this too, Quenton Nelson is an amazing football player. My one year of playing with Quinton was a dream. You could tell that he's a leader as a rookie. There are not many people built like him physically, there's not many people with the emotional intelligence and the football intelligence of a Quenton Nelson. And when I think of when I think of interior alignment that we're looking for here at Stanford, I think of two guys. I think a Quentin Nelson, who had played with or played with an Indianapolis, who's a Notre damer who we could care less about.
In that way.
And I think a David Dicastro, who I played with here at Stanford, who had the amazing career in Pittsburgh. I mean, you gotta be tough to play football. You gotta be big, you gotta be nasty, and you gotta be smart. So that's what we're looking for. So you know, I had to turn that in for a recruiting plug for Stanford. Somehow someone in the question.
Dam where is Captain Andrew Luck?
Now you know what, I have never met Captain Andrew Luck. I wish I wish I had the humor and wit to pool a social media account off like whoever the person is doing it, I hope, I hope they continue to tweet.
So now you're a general, your general, Andrew Luck, You've got promoted.
Great, needed it, needed it.
How would you recruit if you were coming out of high school? Yeah, he got nil. Now your dad has means, So I don't know how important would nil have been to you coming out of high school? And would it have changed maybe where you went instead of Stanford.
Well, it's absolutely it's a part of it's a part of the process, and it's part of the game, you know, it's it's part of the game of big time college football.
Where would you have gone?
I think with NIL, I would have gotten to Stanford And look I think there's a misconception that Stanford is not not competitive in the NIL space, and I can tell you it's not true. We are competitive and very much looking forward to this recruiting class. And again that's why I think with the unique value proposition that this place has, with the combination of athletics and academics and being part of the greatest university of the world, in my opinion, in the greatest athletic department in the world, and with NIL, I know we can compete with everybody for every great academically strong football player.
And where would you have gone? Where was your second choice?
Oh? I had no second choice.
I'll tell you.
I'll tell you what. I'll tell you.
What maybe made it easier was that was that my hometown or home state university, the Texas Longhorns, did not offer me a scholarship, So that made it easier.
Wow, are you still there?
No?
No, But it's a good story.
Good luck, good luck general, good luck John. What about the Book of the Month club? Is that going to be brought back? We did have somebody who called in yesterday knowing you were going to be on.
That's a great question. It's been dormant I'll be honest, I haven't thought about it, but it warms my It warms my general luck to know that someone out there wants to know what what I'm reading.
But here you are on camp Us. Now all that higher learning, smart kids, you're going to have your book of the month is going to be different than the way Maybe it was when you were in Indianapolis.
You know what, I wouldn't devalue the NAA.
It was Pat McAfee never read a book.
You know what, Pat, Pat Mackison. I bet Pat McAfee read a book. It is intelligence is off the charts.
I think McAfee read a magazine. Maybe he didn't read a book. Pat's crushing it, that's all he is. He was a great He was a great teammate, and he is doing a heck of a job out there and bringing a lot of joy to people's lives.
Was he this goofy when you played with him?
You know what, Pat? You know, people ask a lot about Pat. I mean Pat's famous, I mean capital F famous.
There's no doubt.
Yeah, you know, I always come back to two things. One he said he has a big personality and was not afraid to talk right period. So it's no surprising that he is, whereas he was a great teammate and a great punter, and a punter is an offensive and defensive weapon when they're really good, and he was really really good. And you know, I had a kid at Pally High. Our punter would still do the Pat McAfee celebration if he, in practice or in a game, you know, downed it within the ten yard time.
So did you have to worry about McAfee on a bye week though, No, I'll kint all. Yeah, yeah, well, congratulations, welcome back home. Appreciate it, and don't make it five years the next time we talk. Okay, wasn't that long.
It was over five five years and four months, five years.
And four months. You've got you've got good data folks there, yes man.
Yes, yes, real good.
My analytics department, I got an nil. I even have a transfer portal group here. I just need a GM. So good luck, thanks for joining us.
Appreciate it.
That's uh, that's a general Andrew Luck Uh, the general manager at Stanford
