New York Times best-selling author Ian O'Connor joins us to discuss his new book "Out of the Darkness: The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers." Meteorologist Jim Cantore stops by to break down possible obstacles for Delaware State getting to Hawaii for their week one matchup. And the fastest man alive, Noah Lyles, stops by to discuss his gold medal performance in the Olympics and the challenge from Miami Dolphins star Tyreek Hill.
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It is an unauthorized biography of Aaron Rodgers. Ian O'Connor, sportswriter, New York Times best selling author, and the new book is Out of the Darkness, The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers. Why Aaron Rodgers, Well, it starts with Vince Lombardi.
Vincelambardi coached my high schools, the only head coaching job he ever had before the Green Bay Packers, and he lived eight houses away from me in Anglewood, New Jersey. And so I was always fascinated by the packer mystique and thought.
I had a packer's book inside of me. So I guess this is the one.
But Aaron, from a distance, I always found him to be compelling, mysterious, intriguing. He got traded into my backyard. I was working on a Lebron James bio, and I pivoted away from it to Aaron because I think he's a fascinating character. And I thought the marriage of him and this Charlie Brown franchise in New York would make for a great story. So far hasn't been so great. We'll see how it plays out this year but that's why I took the project on.
How do you avoid preconceived opinions notions of Aaron Rodgers.
It's not easy, but I was determined to go into this open minded, and I think some of his friends early on I ended up talking to two hundred and fifty people, As Aaron said, I reached out to five hundred and half called me back. That's about right, and a lot of his friends, I think early on, in close associates, were concerned that I had an agenda that frankly and one of his friends told me this that you're a media guy from New York, probably liberal, looking to destroy Aaron in this book, and that couldn't be further from the truth.
I had absolutely no agenda whatsoever.
And I wanted to be open minded about the vaccine, his stance on that and everything else, including the conspiracy theories, and so I think I warmed down over time, and that's the reason that he agreed to sit down with me at his home in Malibu.
Unauthorized versus authorized. How different would this book be if it was authorized?
Well, when it's authorized, Dan, obviously it's that subject's truth as opposed to the truth or the pure truth, and I think that unauthorized. A lot of people readers think it's a dirty word, like it suggests a trash book. It's really a badge of honor. I think it's closer to a pure form of journalism, and the ideal is unauthorized biography with the subject's cooperation.
With Aaron.
I didn't get full cooperation that would have required fifteen to twenty hours. I got two hours with him at the end of the process to check all of my facts, and he did. He was very candid and thoughtful and engaging at his home on the Pacific Ocean. It was a great backyard setting for those two hours. But he made the book better and I very much appreciate that.
I'm trying to figure this out because is he leading us to believe that he wants to be left alone do his own thing, but then still enjoys the spotlight.
I think he wants to be talked about. I think he always has, and I think he leans into it now he's back. In August of twenty one, those four words, yeah, I've been immunized.
That turned him into a villain.
Before then, he was considered one of the more socially aware athletes in sports. He was celebrated by the same journalists who then turned on him after the truth came out about his unvaccinated status. And I think after that he decided to really dig in and if the media wanted to go to war with him, he would be a willing participant in that war. But I think at the end of the day, he likes creating new cycles. He can do it just rolling out of bed. I've rarely seen an athlete who could command the spotlight the way he can. It's amazing that here we have a Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes going for a three peat and Aaron Rodgers, who hasn't been to the Super Bowl in a long time, is still by far the most talked about person in the league. And that's really a major reason why I decided to do this book.
Does he care what the public things?
He's humans so he cares.
He does, and he's admitted to me, at least in one answer, that it does hurt when he gets criticized, but he's a fearless public speaker. I do, on a certain level give him a lot of credit for that, because I'm not and I think most people aren't, and he's willing to sometimes unfortunately defend indefensible positions on things. But yeah, I think the criticism has hurt him, and I think he was hurt after those four words.
Yeah, I've been immunized.
When he felt that he had some media allies who weren't there for him, he thought he would get some support and some of those allies would rush to his side, and that did not happen. So yeah, he bleeds too, and I think that he tries to do a good job of not showing that.
But it's there, is Ian O'Connor. The book is Out of the Darkness, The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers. Any similarities with other people you've profiled with coach k Bill Belichick, Derek Cheeter, Arnold Jack Nicholas.
Good question, Dan, I think the one similarity is, and that's why I was surprised he admitted to me he made a mistake with his COVID stance back in twenty twenty one, is that they don't admit mistakes, these greats coaches and athletes. They don't admit weakness and faults and errors, and they never say I'm sorry. And I've come to believe the reason is because they fear that weakness will follow them into the competitive arena and compromise their chances of winning.
And winning at a big time level and becoming an all time great.
And I think, really, when Aaron admitted to me he made a mistake and wishes he had a mulligan on his not his stance because he's still anti vaccine, but just the way he did it and didn't tell his truth at the time, which was he was allergic to an ingredient and Pfizer and Maderna and concerned about Johnson and Johnson's side effects. Said why didn't you just say that? And he says, yeah, I should have said it. It was a mistake. But when you admit fault guys like Aaron Rodgers, coach, k Derrek, Cheeter, Belichick, when's the last time you heard any of them say I'm sorry about anything? And I really think it comes down to they think it will hurt them in competition, and that's why they don't do it.
If you gave Rogers a due over a mulligan of going to the Jets or the Jets bringing Aaron Rodgers in, Does anybody have a different opinion on that either side?
No, I think Aaron would still do it. I think the Jets would still do it. Of course after this season, if they have a losing season or he's hurt again, I think the answer would be different. But Aaron was no longer wanted in Green Bay. He knew that effectively, that was a firing. Even though he pushed for the trade. He saw this great opportunity Dan in New York to if he wins a ring for a franchise in the big city that has not been to the Super Bowl since January sixty nine, that's going to feel like three rings and it's going to be Messia in ninety four for the Rangers on steroids. And I think looking at Brady with seven rings and Aaron with one, he can't close that gap. But if he wins the big one for the Jets, it's going to feel like he really did close that gap. And I think he saw that as a great opportunity, and I agree with him.
I wonder about his career how he views it because he's often referred to as the most talented quarterback, or maybe the one or two most talented quarterbacks to ever played the game, but he has won Super Bowl. Has it been a disappointment to him in what he's accomplished, even though he's been League MVP quite a few times.
And I think the League MVPs helps a little bit, and he did win more of those than Tom Brady, but he that's not what people count. They count the rings and he's down six to the guy he will always be compared against, and that hurts. But he didn't have Belichick, arguably the greatest coach of all time. He didn't have Josh McDaniels, the best offensive coordinator in the league, and he didn't have that Patriot Way support system. There were people who believe that Aaron would have won three, four, five, maybe six rings with the Patriots in the same situation Brady was in special teams and defense and coaching were factors in some of those bitter playoff defeats. If you look at particularly the period Dan from twenty thirteen through sixteen, those four seasons of lost postseason opportunities, Aaron made big, sometimes magical, sudden death plays in each of those seasons and there's nothing but failure in.
The box score.
So I do think his eleven to ten postseason record can be a little misleading, But at the end, of the day. He's barely over five hundred in the playoffs, and he can't really run away from that.
You let me go back to you saying that he got fired by the Packers. Did he get himself fired? It's one thing that you know the franchise is going to turn on you, but it felt like they were at a point of no return that they had to do that.
Well he ended up.
It was a very similar situation to Brett Favre, ironically enough, and Aaron was on the good side of that one and now on the bad side of the franchise wanting to turn it over to Jordan Love. And I think that they always had later in his career the upside and the downside of employing Aaron Rodgers, But the downside got greater in that you had him. He wanted more personnel, say, and influencing decisions, and that's not really the pack away. I think they gave him a little bit more late in his career, but not enough. And then suddenly he's not making the playoffs. That last year he looked like a diminished player misses the playoffs, So we're not getting the upside when Aaron's healthy, where we're getting in the playoffs basically every year, so they wanted to move on.
He knew that, and.
Again with the Jets, it was a great opportunity, Hey, go to the big city.
I'm coming from the smallest market in the NFL.
Let me go to the biggest and try to pull off something that would be pretty iconic. And so it was both parties knew they had to have this divorce. But deep down he's hurt by that, and people close to him told me that. And so ideally, if he could reach the Super Bowl, I think the team he would want to face and bea it is the Green Bay Packers for obvious reasons.
What was the one question that you wanted an answer to?
Family estrangement?
And he did address some of that on the record, and I appreciated that.
Because he didn't know me an answer to that question. But it's gone on now for nearly ten years, and it's a complicated issue.
There's not one defined moment, dan or issue that separated this family. But I was happy that he agreed to address that and also addressed that he his father told me that they had a hug last year at Lake Tahoe at the celebrity golf tournament, and Aaron came over in the middle of his Saturday round, saw his father in the crowd and gave him a hug and said I love you, and Ed Rodgers was crying, and it was an emotional moment. It only lasted about thirty seconds, but it meant something to both men. Aaron wanted to be his father. His father was his idol when he was growing up. And so Aaron told me for the book, and this is the first time he's ever said this publicly. He wants to have a relationship with a family member, this being his father, and so hopefully that happens. And I think the road to family reconciliation will run through Ed Rodgers, and let's hope it happens sooner rather than later.
If you had to predict what is Aaron Rodgers doing after he's done playing.
I think he'll be one of the best analysts in a network booth. Ever, and I know he says he doesn't really have interest in that, but when he's talking football, there's nobody like him. I think he's even better at it, or would be than Brady and Peyton Manning.
He's a computer when he's.
Talking football, it's mesmerizing and I think he would be unbelievable at it, and I don't see another path for him.
I don't think politics is the answer.
I think he'll stay in football, and that seems to be the actual second career for him.
Good to talk to you, Ian, Good luck with the book.
Thank you, Hey, damn my pleasure, Thank you.
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This is not helping? Yeah, you're right, you know, once I get terminology down, I am going to be awesome Firewood. Yeah yeah, yeah. Uh, you know, speaking of tough, Jim Cantorea the Weather Channel. He travels all over and usually going to places that aren't very nice and joining us on short notice so he can give us his thoughts on the manliest states weather wise that you've ever been to. Jim, thanks for joining us. The manliest state Okay, yeah, like harshest weather, Like you've got to be a man to live here. What would be your top dude?
Honestly, the worst.
The worst weather is Chicago, you know, dealing with the wind off the lake. Because I was out doing live shots one time, and you know, I didn't even notice until I walked back into the truck. I'm guys, look at my I'm looking in this little mirror. Look at my nose. It's white. I got frostbite on my nose. I didn't even realize that my cheeks were starting to turn white. So yeah, Chicago's got to be Uh, that's got to get that's got to get.
The wind in Okay, what about rural areas.
Oh my god, the outer banks in North Carolina. I mean, they want to they want to hang me. They hate it when.
I come out there to cover hurricane because I am.
But it's not your fault. You didn't ran the hurricane.
Dan tell them that. Okay.
By the way, when you when you were wheeling that axe earlier, I thought if they were going to do a remake for Fargo, I think you got it.
I think you're a shoe in just sewing out.
Well, speaking of Fargo, where where like the coldest temperatures where you just got it? Because I'm in Maine and obviously you know I'm manly, but uh.
I mean it's really the Northeast. There's just something about that biting cold after storm. I mean one time we were in Massachusetts in March for a thirty five degree snowstorm and it was just like such a wet, gloppy snow and it went inside all of my clothing. It was just like, I'm like hypothermic right now. I am absolutely I have to stop doing shots so I'm gonna freeze to day.
So that was that was right, Werth.
Dakota's got to be up there, what's that? North? Dakota's got to be up north. Dakota's got to be up north.
You know what for the record, that's the only place I have not been for the Weather Channel to do coverage. I've done every other stake, every other stake except North Dakota.
So I got to get that before I before I leave this.
Okay, well you have Montana, Montana.
Yeah, Minnesota, Wyoming did a you know thing at a Yellowstone Minnesota. Minneapolis always cover snowstorms up there.
Okay, Yeah, let's go around the room. I who thinks Jim cantoorre's ever been struck by lightning? Polly, I'll go to you. I know, can the Weather Channel. I know he wants to. It would be great for the brand, especially live TV. I don't think he has. Okay, Todd, has Cantory been struck by lightning? I think he's been mildly electrocuted by lightning.
Yes.
Do you think I'm going to say no? I think hold on, Jim, hold on? Are you gonna say no? Marvin, No, I'm gonna say no, Jim, your answer.
If I have, I don't know it, honest to god.
I mean, I've been in thunder snow six different times with many different episodes of it. Uh, and that is something you actually can get struck during speaking of Maine. The only fatality that we have on record, Dan is a young man in Maine. He was out sledding and he got thundersnow in the middle of a winter storm. So you can't actually get struck by it. But I don't think that it's It's happened to me for the best of my knowledge.
Delta's Delaware State is traveling to Hawaii and they're talking about maybe.
An they're trying to problems.
Right, is there a hurricane on the way, typhoons or what kind of storm is headed towards Hawaii? Have you checked your live local late breaking Doppler, Doppler super Dooppler radar.
Dan, You know, I don't spend a lot of time on the Pacific stuff, but I'll do this for you.
Okay, now we do.
We've been on this for First of all, there's the area right there that we're looking at. Okay, that's the here's Gilma behind that, and see another invest behind that.
Okay.
So here's what it looks like from a satellite perspective. So there's Hawaii, you see it. Yeah, this this area that we're watching, there's actually two systems here that are going to come together and This is what they could look like as they come toward wise. This is what they call a GFS model. Hopefully this is pointed right at it.
So here's what it looks. Let's get together maybe tomorrow, and.
Then it's working its way to the west and then boom, here we are twelve Sundays. That Sunday morning. Let's just go back six hours. So this is about game time. It's pretty far away from Awahu's right there. That's where the game is going to be played and where I have the plus mark. So it's pretty far away. They'll be some wind. I think there'll be some win here. But right now, you know, the thing's got to come together and it's got to develop, and if it doesn't develop, it's not going to be much at all. Listen, here's the deal. Weather's the great equalizer they need to play this game.
Thank you, Jim Jim Cantori meteorologists. Weather Channel will follow him up with who you would expect, Noel Lyles, the fastest man in the world.
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He won a gold in the one hundred meters and a bronze and the two hundred meters, while having COVID Noah Lyles joining us on the program. Noah, congratulations. What's it like when you race when you're expected to win as opposed to you might surprise people and win.
I'd say when you're expected to win, the pressure is definitely a lot higher. People are always going to be hanging on every word, and when they don't expect you to win, you're more of a under the radar.
It's a lot less pressure.
It's a lot easier to win because you feel like you're just going against the grain and saying, yeah, I can do this, as opposed to, oh, I have.
To do this.
What made you think that you had lost the one hundred meters?
To be honest, I could.
Usually I have that innate feeling that tells me, yeah, I won this race and it's pretty good, even when it comes down to very very close races. I've had races all throughout the year that have been, you know, the smallest of margins, and usually I have that feeling.
And at the end of the race, I just didn't have that feeling.
I didn't know where I was in the race and I was just like, you know, I this is one of those moments that I'm just watching just like everybody else.
How often do you practice that lean at the tape?
I actually don't practice it. It's kind of just natural, you know. I just know what it takes. I know that if you throw your arm out enough, it will throw the chest further. I also know that the torso is what they count. And then you know, just knowing those few facts, it's all about timing. It's all about when you decide to lean. A lot of people will lean too early and some people won't lean early enough. So just kind of getting down the timing, you know, you just kind of learn it. It's kind of an innate feeling you had.
Who's the fastest man in the world.
That's me. I mean, that's what the title.
But if I look at if I look at you saying Bolt's time, is he still technical? Please?
Hey, you're talking about records now, you're asking who the world record is.
You know, we've always given the title of fastest man to a world champion and an Olympic champion.
You know, we've it's just so.
Happens for the last you know for eight uh sixteen years that that was both.
He had both.
Usually you don't always have the person that has the world record and the title at the same time. But we in the sport of track bit have always given it to the title of who has the Olympic one hundred meters men's gold medal and who has the World Championship hundred meters men gold medal.
How long do you think it will take for somebody to surpass Bolt's time in the one hundred meters.
I'm trying to get it done as soon as possible.
Unporentially, I don't have a crystal ball, so I can't tell you an exact date. But I mean, as athletes, we're always looking to improve ourselves and we're always looking for greater challenge. And I think everybody sees the world record as one is incredible and two as I want that.
To be me.
When did you know you were fast?
I mean, I've kind of always known I was fast. Both of my parents were runners. They both ran for collegiately for seam Hall, and my dad even went professional with Adidas. And you know, there's just that you know, I'm faster than everybody on the playground feeling that you have and it just never went away. So throughout the years, it just continued to grow more and more, and then I'm just I got to a point where I was like, you know what, I think I could be the great set this. You know, I think if I really settled down and work on everything, I possibly could be the best.
What's that feeling like to run fast?
Oh?
It's a very you forque type of feeling. That's that's why I feel it. It's very hard when a lot of athletes leave the sport because they don't get that, you know, adrenaline rush anymore. When you're running and you're constantly feeling like you just go faster and fast. I think the easiest way to describe it is if you run down a hill, the hill kind of does most of the work for you, so it feels like you can just run forever. That's kind of what it feels like. When you're running at top and speed and you're pulling out ahead of everybody.
It's just like, oh my god, this is that I'm the fastest. I'm the fastest.
What's the strangest thing you've thought about while you've been running? While it didn't in a race, can your mind wander at all?
It can? It could definitely wander.
I've had races where, you know, me and my brother are both professional runners and.
Coming through high school.
I think there was this time where we were running and he was winning at a certain point in the race, and I railed up, yelled out, oh you want to play, and I just took off on him. Yeah, that was pretty random of a thing to say in the middle of the race.
We're talking to Noah Lyles, one hundred meter gold medalist in Paris. Is there a like depressions set in after the Olympics with this is so big and now it's over and then you got to wait four more years for another Olympics.
No, there's definitely. That's definitely a thing.
I can't I can't remember the exact word for it, but you almost like the Olympic syndrome.
You know, coming from such a high.
It's very hard sometimes for athletes to come down off of that because you've you've worked for four years and maybe more, and because of that, you don't know where to go once you got up to the top. Because most people can only imagine getting to the top. They don't think of oh, once, what's on the other side. I think me knowing what I want to do with the gold medal with the title has helped me in a sense, also knowing who I am as a person, knowing that if I got the medal or didn't, I'm still going to be the same. No, I'm still going to go out and attempt to run as fast as I can. I'm still going to try and be a creator and vinor a lover of the sport. But know that I'm the same guy who's going to get on my friends and play video games and take out the trash.
You know that's still me.
All those were just a form of me, and knowing that helps me to say, hey, I'm perfectly fine going back home and nobody knowing who I am, and then at the same time walking outside and everybody.
Know Anybody tried to steer you to play football.
All tons, tons of times, tons of times throughout high school. They were just like, oh, yeah, we'll get you on a wide receiver. We'll just put you on a go route. Nobody will touch you. But my mom was very strict on not having us, you know, do football. She was very concerned about injuries, concussions, all that stuff, and rightfully so, But personally, I'm not that big into physical contact sports. I think like basketball is the closest physical context where I'll get to.
But my brother, I tell you he was born to be a wide receiver.
But he's not. He's a professional track athlete.
He is, he is.
We went a different route. That's just how it is.
And like, uh, we have a plan for you versus Tyreek Hill, plan both. Yeah, how about you both wear football uniforms.
It's not a little two gimmicky for me. He's the one who changes.
Okay, yeah, but we have to we have to make it. This is for TV. No, I'm going to produce this. So maybe that or you both hold a football and race, or how about because see sixty meters, I know why he wants to do fifty yards because even if he loses, he's gonna lose. It'll be close. But one hundred meters that there's no interest in that. But you have everything to lose. But you would still do this with Tyreek Hill.
I'm not right.
Look, he challenged me, so that means he wants the crown of fastest man. So you have to race the race that gives you the crown, there might be leeway for adjustments. But if you think we're running anything that has yards in it, and you're sorely mistaken. But we can definitely have conversations. I'd have no problem having conversations about it. But you're right, this is entertainment. No, we won't be running with pads on. But hey, I don't have a problem laying down a track in the middle of a football stadium and saying, hey, let's pack this place out.
Okay, But I brought this up to you, sain Bolt. I don't know how long ago when Tyreek Hill wanted a piece of Usain Bolt, and I said, would you be willing to put up one of your gold medals? Yeah? And you would not put up your gold medal in one hundred meters versus Tyreek Hill.
What does he earn to deserve that status?
He plays football and he's a great football player.
But you don't get to jump.
The line just because you think you're best. There's tons of those people out there.
What if you got his Super Bowl ring?
I don't want a Super Bowl ring. I'm very very content with my Olympic medals.
Well, DK Metcalf at least did try to do this professionally. Yeah, I mean he took the steps. But yeah, if I'm Tyreek, if I can get this to forty yards, then I think he would probably sign up for that. But one hundred meters. See, that's the difference. Though. You get to top end speed and you stay at top end speed. Most people get to top end speed and then all of a sudden it doesn't last long. That feels like that's the difference between being football fast and being track fast.
It is, but even in track, you get to top end speed faster than the football players.
They just don't know.
Is your slow start though? Explain your slow start or what is perceived? Is it calculated that your start is slower because you were i think in last place after what fifty or sixty meters at the Olympics.
Yeah, I'd say it's a perception compared to field that I'm racing against. Yes, it looks slow. Compared to the world, it's at the top of the list. I mean, you're not going to find a faster starter out there if you're just picking people off the street or even anybody who's probably at a collegiate level or so on and so forth. But yeah, it's perceived slow because I'm going up against the fastest men on the planet. But you know, we all have our gifts and that's why we run one hundred meters, because just because you start.
In the first thirty meters in last doesn't mean that you're gonna.
End up that way at the one hundred meter mark, and it's all about who crosses the tape first.
Your reaction to NBA players reaction to you talking about you're not truly a world champ in your sport, but you are in your sport.
Yeah, what was the question?
What is your reaction to what their reaction was to what you had to say. You know, Kevin Durant and Anthony Edwards there, you know some guys who took some shots at you.
To be honest, I think everybody missed the point which happens when you just have fifteen second clips. I mean, can you tell me what the question was asked that proposed that answer.
I'm not sure what. Yeah, but you were talking about, hey, how can you be you're a world champ because you're going against the world, whereas the NBA is not going against the entire world or Major League Baseball.
But that wasn't what the actual question that was proposed to me was about. That was a very fifteen second clip of what the whole answer was. That question that was asked to me was what is it like going back to the US and not being recognized for your accomplishments like a lot of the other sports and countries that they have in other other places.
And I said, it hurts because the US has such.
A wide array of sports and great ath leads, and unfortunately we give the title of world champion to other sports. And that hurts me because I feel that we have world champions and the ones that they're giving it to are national champions.
And that in basketball was an example.
There are other sports that do it as well, and it just hurts that because you do have world champions like me, and you know there are you know, even there's even a world championship basketball team that goes out, you know, that's not a part of the EMS. And there's also people who do in gymnastics, tennis, you know, they based everybody who's on the world stage, you know, And that's the message that was trying to get it across.
They were just an example of what The question that was asking me was.
Posing, that's fair.
Where's the gold medal?
It's it's right over there. You're why you want to see it?
Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, you give.
Me the.
Yeah, go get it.
Yeah, it's it's kind of cool. I got a piece of paras in it. It makes it real special.
Here we go, very shining. Now. You haven't shined that up, have you?
No, I haven't shined it up. Became like this. It's actually a little dingier than when I first got it.
You know what, you should show up to the race with Tyreek Hill, no shirt on and just the gold medal around your neck, just just kind of announce your presence there.
Noah, Hey, I'll I'll have everybody carry it like a like a boxer. I'll bring away and Olympic medals and I'll just have somebody carrying on.
Somebody's gonna have a.
Heavy keep keep fighting a good fight. Thanks for joining us, and again congratulate having me. That's Noah Lyles, fastest man in the world.