On today's Dan Patrick Show, DP talks to Senior NFL Insider for The Athletic Dianna Russini about the Jets decision to fire Robert Saleh. Legendary Radio Host Mike Francesa shares his frustration with the Jets deciding to not move on from OC Nathaniel Hackett. Actor Patrick Schwarzenegger discusses portraying Tim Tebow in FX's new Aaron Hernandez docuseries, "American Sports Story." And Keeper's Heart Master Distiller Brian Nation drops by the mancave to gift DP with a new bottle.
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I was corresponding with Tony dungeees down in Tampa and another hurricane headed that way and just seeing how he and his family are and might miss the area where they are. But a lot of people have evacuated. I think close to five million people have been ordered to evacuate there. So getting hit again in the South with another hurricane. All right? Eight seven seven three DP show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. Diana Rossini from the Athletic will join us shortly here to talk more about the Jets situation, Aaron Rodgers situation as they move forward. And you got college football tonight. It's New Mexico State getting twenty and a half against Jacksonville Stay all right. I like Jacksonville State. They're a lot of fun. And that's rich Rodriguez's team. Is he still head coach there Jacksonville State?
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I think he kind of turned that program around or re establish or established them. U. Yeah. Yeah, they can score, They can score on you quickly. Also, guess who is listed as the World Series favorites right now, if you said the San Diego Padres, you would be correct. The Padres are now plus three hundred, the Dodgers listed at plus eight hundred, tied for the fourth best odds with the Royals. I was waiting to see some passion, some anger, something from the Dodgers last night, and it wasn't there. Padres got it. I mean, they got that. Now. You may not like how they present themselves, but they have backed it up and this is going to be one of those if they get on the big stage in the World Series. I'd be curious how America reacts to them. But if you they're an acquired chassee. But man, are they good and they got they got some spirit there, they got some swag. They're not afraid. I mean, Dodgers got some big names there. But you're waiting for those big names to show up. And if they don't show up this next game, long long offseason, and to make it worse, it'd be the Padres who advance at your expense. Oh my goodness, all right. Diana Russini, mother of the Year the Athletics, senior NFL insider, co host of the Athletic Scoop City Podcast with Chase, Daniel and Diana kind enough to join us having a busy morning in the household, so thank you for joining us.
Mother of the Year, I am I am so not, I am so not. Yesterday was a day, dan h. You know, news never stops and you can't really predict it, so you got to You gotta be quick on your feet dealing with these little kids when stuff's going on, and we're potty training right now. So I'm not sure if it was some sort of symbolism yesterday, but let's just say Mikey's having a hard time with it. So we were dealing with that in the middle of taking some calls trying to piece together what happened in New York with the Jets, so you could use your imagination and imagine what it was I was dealing with yesterday. It was awesome, It was It was quite a day in the Racini household.
You know, Chefty doesn't have to deal with that, or Woje never had to deal with that, but you're dealing with potty training, so we appreciate the double duty. Did you say, how about that?
That was clever? That's crushed double duty.
Thank you, Thank you? All right, walk me through this. How did we get to this point where the Jets do something they haven't done since the mid seventies, and that's fire their coach mid season.
Not even the mid season, not even exactly to early August, early October. We're at and I think that's why there was a feeling of shock yesterday from everyone, the fan base, people in the building, and obviously people following and covering this team. And it's shocking not because Robert Salad was fired. I don't think anyone was stunned by that. It's just, of course the timing of when this went down. As you know, they lose to the Denver Broncos and then lose to the Minnesota Vikings in London. So the way it was explained to me after collecting some information yesterday was, you know what, he got back to the States on Monday, made a few calls to people with the Jets organization, didn't tell anyone that this is what he was definitely doing, but definitely came across annoyed, bothered, angry. And I had heard that he had felt that after the Broncos loss at matt Left Stadium in the rain when they lost the bon Nix that he was not a happy owner after that. So it didn't help that they had that long flight home after losing to Sam Darnold and the Viking. So the conversations he's had he had with people in the Jets front office as well as Aaron Rodgers, he did not tell them, from what I understand, I am coming into the office tomorrow to fire Robert Sala. He just told them that he was considering it. So Tuesday morning he showed up into the office and had that direct conversation with Sala that he's going to be moving on from him, and Sala attempted to lay out a bit of a case. I've got a top five defense, I've got a top five social teens unit. Right now, we could potentially be first in the division depending on what we do on Monday night. And Woody Johnson just believes that if they don't make this change right now, that this entire season is going down the drain.
But I don't know if Robert Sala was willing to demote Nathaniel Hackett as offensive coordinator as a way of saying, I'll make change, keep me here. My defense is great. Let's change the offense. Do you think that that was on the table.
Yeah, I do.
I don't think he ever had any plans of firing Todd excuse me, firing Nathaniel Hackett. I think it was to move Todd Downing into a bigger role. He's the quarterbacks coach. Remember he was the offensive coordinator in Tennessee with the Titans there. Keith Carter is the offensive line coach in New York. Tony Dues is the running back coach. And the reason why I name these guys they were all together in Tennessee, so you have a lot of the same kind of mindset, familiarity with one another. But then you have Nathaniel Hackett in there overseeing all of it. And so I think the thought from Sala's side to it, and even perhaps the rest of the coaching staff, which we will see over the next few hours, if they decide to do what I think Sala wanted to do here, which was promote Todd Downing to have a little bit more offensive responsibility play calling, pull Nathaniel Hackett back. The question we don't know though, is Aaron Rodgers willing to do that? Because I have never seen a quarterback in the time I've covered football, have the deep loyalty that he does to Nathaniel Hackett as much as Aaron Rodgers does do I think Aaron Rodgers is seeing what we're seeing, though, And you know that's something that I'm curious over because there's no way Aaron Rodgers thinks that this is good enough.
What's Aaron Rodgers' role in all of this? Sala being fired, the offense, struggling, Nathaniel Hackett keeping his job feels like he's got Is it total autonomy here, Diana?
Yeah, Yeah, Aaron Rodgers has This is Aaron Rodgers's ship. This is this is his boat. Everyone else everyone's on it. He's right in this thing. He's the captain of the ship. Joe Douglas is the general manager. Robert Salah was the head coach. Jeff Olbrick is now the interim. But everything runs through Aarin And I know I mentioned that I don't think Woody asked Aaron Rodgers if he was okay if he fired Robert Sala. I think Woody did it on his own without Rogers saying yes or no. And I do actually believe Sala and Rogers have a decent relationship. I don't think it's thriving, and I don't think they're bff and golfing together. I don't think it's like that. But I think they were fine with one another. I think Rogers liked the fact that sala was willing to listen to him and do the things he wanted to do, not everything. I don't think Salad did everything Rogers told him to do, but he certainly had a very open door policy with letting Rogers come in his office and be part of a lot of the decision making. Even in the off season with free agents in their draft, Rogers was part of everything. And that's the way they want it. That is the way Woody Johnson wants it to be. He wants Aaron Rodgers to have all this say because they believe that he's the one that has won before and he knows how to do it.
Diana Rossini from the Athletics in your NFL Insider, I'm wondering how attractive this job is going to be. And I never thought I would say this that it's less attractive because Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback.
Diane, No, it is a great thought because I've been digging on that. You know, since Sala was fired yesterday, all right, well, what's the long term plan here?
Now?
What do they want to do?
Who?
You know, let's say, look, I hope Jeff Olbert steps in here and turns this thing around for them. I hope he's the guy. I hope they go, oh my gosh, he was here the whole time. We just didn't say it. But we know how this works. It's probably not going to be the case. I also think he has a really uphild battle here to try to sort out how he wants to do it and be part of this defense has been remarkable, but also fix the offense, because we all know that's the problem. Rogers hasn't been great. He's had little snippets that we've seen. So who wants to work for Woody Johnson? That's going to be the question. And you know, the needs that are floating around are, of course the coaches who are available and highly respected around the league, like a Bill Belichick, like a Mike Rabel. But these are two head coaches, in my opinion, or candidates that are going to have choices. So they're going to probably want to work for an owner that they believe knows what they're doing, and historically, I think we have a lot of questions about what Woody Johnson's doing. So I think we should probably put to bed the Bill Belichick to the New York Jets conversation. I think it's a fun idea. I think it's it's sometimes humorous, obviously with knowing the way it ended with Bill Belichick in New York. But Bill Belichick wants to work for a really good owner, and I don't believe that he thinks Woody Johnson is.
Are the Giants in a better situation than the Jets are?
You know?
I was thinking about that this morning.
I live in the same neighborhood as Joe Shane and Brian Davell, and I always hope I run into them at the coffee shop because I've seen them there before, and I was just thinking, man.
They must be sitting here, like, come, this.
Is great, Like no one's looking at us. We won in remarkable fashion.
Davie's coaching his butt off, Daniel Jones looks spectacular. I don't know what world we're in, but good for the New York Giants right now. I do appreciate I know Sala and Dabeill have a really great relationship.
They talk a lot. And look, there's no way Brian Dabele's not looking at the situation going this could have been me this week, you know, if they lose to Seattle, and look, I don't think Mara is gonna move as fast as we see Woody move on on a firing. But I don't think anyone in New York and the Giants organizations feels comfortable, Like no one's sitting there going we're coming back next year, not yet, but obviously getting a win, you know, being the winners of New York for right now, it's got to feel good.
Do you think there'll be another opening this season or another firing across the NFL? Yeah, during the season, Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah there will be because Dan, you know how this works. Once a team sees one go down, it's like whoa ball, It's open up the floodgates, like someone's like, let's you know, it's like kind of like it also, I'll plants the sea two of Oh yeah, I can fire people during the year. Uh So, I think we're just getting started. It's just early, which is why you know it's it is It is hard to have that conversation of, oh, what are they thinking for next already? Because this is early I haven't covered a firing of the head coach this early season in a very long time.
Mother of the Year Diana is Seining, a Athletics senior NFL insider and the great podcast The Athletics Scoop City with our good buddy Chase Daniel. Thank you, good to talk to you again, Diana Dan.
If I'm Mom of the Year, then the Jets are Super.
Bowl champions, okay, thank you, Diana Russini, The Athletic and the Podcast with Chase Daniel Scoop Sitting. Yeah, I don't think this is attractive job. And it's because I'm gonna have to deal with Aaron Rodgers again in the off season. Is he going to play? How involved he going to be? What changes have to be made? Is Nathaniel Hackett have to stay in that position like they don't want it? And I think he turns forty one in December. I think he's forty one this year. I know age is just a number, but I'm watching somebody who is looking like they're forty one. Brady never looked like he was forty forty two. Forty five. I mean, you're just looking at him and you just don't it's he had ballet type feet. He was so good and he can't be that way. I mean, just put the age on his body. Then you have the Achilles injury and there's no spark. There's no sparkle with this offense. They need Davante Adams And I don't even know if that's the answer, but that's that's the only possible answer out there, other than maybe we change our playbook, maybe we're not predictable, maybe we're able to run the ball a little bit. But what you're seeing right now, they are very, very generic when it comes to offense. Mitch in South Carolina, Hi, Mitch, what's on your mind today? Hey Missy?
Hey, what's up? What's going on?
Man?
Yeah?
About that? I was just calling the worrying about the Aaron Rodgers thing. I guess I was just wondering if since they got rid of Slow, is New York trying to shift to a more offensive mindset, to where Diana said they want Aaron to take over the room a little more and want him say so. So I'm guessing with both of this firing and with Diana saying what she just did.
I think it's it's Aaron's room, Thank you, Mitch. It's already his room. It's not like something changes because you fired Robert Sama. You still have your offensive coordinator there now. If you fire your offensive coordinator now, Aaron can take credit if the offense gets better. Mike and Florida. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind?
Hey?
I'm just six seven to seventy five currently on High seventy five North's Headache out of Florida into Georgia.
Well, good luck with that evacuation there, Mike.
Yeah, we got about one hundred and eighty miles ago. I'm gonna have you guys on the radio the whole time and get us through the shot.
What's any how many people are you saying? I mean, is this seventy five back? I mean Cardinals.
No, we we waited until this morning to leave, so everybody is probably already evacuated. But it's raining pretty good.
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We got a three car caravan, my daughters behind me and my wife's behind her, and we got our five casts with us and we're headed out.
All right. Well, we hope to entertain you. Do you want to hear more? Of Fritzie or less of Fritzy to help you with you know, the evacuated ius. Okay, then America is spoken. Mike cast leaving Florida, smile on my face. Uh, do you have anything special for America today? You're the Minister of humor.
We love Mike. We hate everyone else, but we love Mike. Mike knows what's good. Mike knows what's We could appreciate Mike. And he's going to be in his vehicle and he's gonna listen to our show and it's going to be a lovely thing and we love him.
Oh oh, you were doing your Donald Trump.
My voice, doing lines that he would say.
Oh okay, but not sounding not actually soundings.
We've established that my bad impersonation about Trump. But we can we could reinforce that.
Okay, yes, yes, you know, since we're doing it, I don't want to take Fritzy's thunder. But did you ever hear my Barack Obama imitation? I'm Barack Obama and I'm President of the United State. Wow, I'm from Chicago and I like the Cubs and the socks.
Man, I thought you stuck slow when you finished fast.
If you see the facial things I'm doing.
It's really yeah, kind of that's Todd's thing. I'm sorry, like his Donald Trump impersonation. It really hinges on his hands. That's it. Nothing else.
And the radio audience loves that.
Yeah.
The radio audience is like, wow, I can only imagine what the hen say. Yeah. Yeah.
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Dan, good to talk to you. They didn't, I said, And I've been hot on Salah for a while for a couple of years. He was a terrible head coach, good defensive coordinator, one of those guys who's got a job for a long time. It could be the next Spagnola. He's a defensive coordinator. He's a good one. The defense is well prepared. He had not a clue how to be a head coach. He didn't understand what it meant, and he didn't do anything that you need to do to be a head coach. So but Hackett had to go. Their offense is it's nonexistent. And to have a quarterback like they have, and he has no easy throws, he has no open receivers, They have no concepts. They can't run it, they can't throw it down the field. And this is with a great player and with other top talent left tackle, running back, wide receiver, and they don't have concepts, they have no idea what they're doing, and they look abysmal doing it. And they are also so ill prepared. And nobody was held accountable. So the head coach had to go. But Hackett had to be out to do it with them. And I don't know. If I don't know what role Rodgers played in this. He and Sala obviously weren't getting wrong, and that was easy to see. But Hackett cannot be protected here. He is not any good at his job. As a matter of fact, he's awful. He had to go too, and I would have left the defensive coordinator where he was because I don't want to damage it. Defense which is good, which is a little banged up and can get better if they get readick in somehow and get mostly healthy. Their defense has been good, is not as good as it was last year at its zenith, but it's good. And the offense has just been deplorable. And you can see how frustrated Rodgers is with the whole thing. And he's going to get hurt too, because he's going on forty one and he's brittle and he's getting the heck knocked out of him, and they're blitzing him and it's being very effective against the guy you could never blitz in the past. So there's so much there but keeping Hacket and elevating the defensive coordinator, who might be a good head coach. I don't know, we'll see, but the point is he now has to learn a new role, and he's going to impact the defense because now Sala's not there who was good with the defense, and he's not in the same job. I would have brought in a new offensive coordinator and I would have gotten somebody who would have taken that job. I don't know if it would have been Vrabel or Pete Carroll or who it might have been. I would have made those phone calls first and try to get somebody in here who would look at this as a great opportunity, which I think it could be if they had made the right moves. But Hackett being in the building it means it's still a disaster in my mind.
But Mike, I don't know if it's an attractive job because of Aaron Rodgers, because he does have autonomy there and how long is he going? Like if you said, hey, would you want the job you're Vrabel or Belichick, I'd be like, I'm going to wait until Aaron Rodgers is gone, because I don't want to wait year to year and see what Aaron wants to do and is he going to be there and all in and how healthy and is he going on vacations and so it doesn't seem like an attractive job at least you know over the next couple of years.
Very fair point. First of all, Belichick will go nowhere to the Jesse hates them, okay, so that we all know that that will never happen. He might be in Dallas, he might be in Philly, he might be in Jacksonville. He'll never be in New York with the he could be the Giants, never be with the Jets. But I understand the point, and it's a good one. First of all, making a change in season is almost impossible. It's not your staff. You haven't had time to work with everybody, you haven't had time to prepare a philosophy. None of that makes sense changing a coach mid stream. I would have brought a Frank Reich in to run the offense, and then I would have tried to bring somebody in to run the team. But I would have sat Aaron Rodgers down and listen. I know there's a lot of excuses coming out, and I think sala is probably a part of that genesis of this stuff. He was going to take the job away from Hackett and give it to Downing. I don't know if that's true. He got fired because he wore a Lebanese decal on his sweatshirt. I doubt that very much. Okay, if we he didn't want him to wear that, he wouldn't have want it. I don't believe any of that stuff. He got fired because he was a bad head coach and the team was falling apart. But they didn't do what they needed to do. They needed to get rid of him, and they needed to get rid of the offensive coordinator who is inect and they didn't do that, and that's on Rogers. And I would have sat Rogers down there and I would have said this, listen, you like looking like you look the last two weeks. Look like a bum. You want to have that as your way of going out of the NFL. You want to get pounded until you can't walk. You want to throw three interceptions and a pick six. This is not who you are. Why do you want to be part of this. Let me bring somebody in and fix this with you. We'll sit down, we'll come up with a name, and we will fix this. But Hackett has to go. And that should have been what the owner said. The owner should have taken control. Salin never had control of Rogers. Rogers has been in control of the franchise since he got here, but he's not doing it right either. If he did, Hackett would have gone out the door.
Also, why don't we scrutinize Woody Johnson the way we do Jimmy Johnson or Jerry.
Jones, because Woody is not we take because I'll give you exactly, because we don't take where he seriously. We take Jerry seriously, and we know he screws up a lot of stuff, okay, and we take him seriously because he meddles what he doesn't want to medal. He doesn't want to He wants to be an owner, and he wants to have cocktails with his buddies, and then he wants to run a Trump fundraiser and then go off and be an ambassador. Again. Remember what, he didn't hire Sala. That was a big part of this too. He didn't hire him. His brother did. That was a big part of this, and that's why he didn't feel any allegiance to him. I was surprised what he made this move in. I called for this last week and I'm not saying he did it because he did not doubt what he listens to me what he and I don't get along. But the point is I didn't think what he had this in him to do this. But of course what he screwed it up like he screws up everything football wise, because he didn't do it the right way. He did it halfway, and he did it the wrong way. Because I think this way, I don't think it can work.
Talking to Mike Francessa, if you're looking at which franchise is in better shape, the Jets are the Giants. Who would you say, uh, neither, you got to pick one, which team you.
Had to pick one? Right now? I'd pick the Jets because they have more talent. I'd pick the Jets because they have Aaron Rodgers. And if I can get Aaron Rodgers out of the way and just let him be the quarterback, this can work. They have talent, they have a Hall of Fame left tackle, they have offensive linemen who can play. The problem is they haven't been properly coached. They haven't been together long enough to understand the concept of how to block together. They are all new that it wasn't gonna work unless you had strong coaching. This is not a good coaching staff and it's not a good offensive room, and Hackett is in it. He shouldn't be there. Okay, he's only there because he's buddies with the star quarterback. That's not a reason to be there. And everybody in the league knows it. And here's what's the jokes on Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers looked at the head coach with complete contempt and disdain and is glad he's gone. But now the world is looking at Aaron Rodgers that way because he protected his buddy, and that's not going to work.
If you gave the Jets a mulligan, would they bring in Aaron Rodgers again?
No, I don't think they would. It's been too much trouble. I really don't think they would. I think they tried something I could understand how it could work. Listen. Would he had a chance to make this right last summer, A lot of people, including me, screamed, get rid of the coach and clear out the staff and get rid of Hacket and you can win and fix the offensive line. They fixed the offensive line, and then the GM screwed up the Reddick thing and got rid of the wrong people on defense, so he weakened the defense. But the defense is still playing really well. The problem is, hey, Breese Halt looked like a superstar last year. He doesn't even know which end is up right now, and he is so upset it's ridiculous. He's getting hit in the backfield every other play. The offensive line cannot run block. They have no concepts. Aaron Rodgers isn't missing open receivers. They have no open receivers. All they can run is quick passing. If they don't get rid of the ball, and two point five, he's on his back. They have no running games, they have no concepts. They're running the wrong way. From a Hall of Fame quarterback. It is a joke what's going on right now, and it's not gonna get fixed. It's packets in the room.
I love to hear your passion.
It's just sickening to watch. But I never thought I was surprised what he fired. Salah I came out yesterday. I was playing golf. I got off the court golf course. My wife said to me, they fired Salah. I said, get out of here. I said, they actually clean house. She goes, no, they.
Only got rid of sala I said, of course, great to talk to you as always, Mike, be well danced, all right, buddy, Mike francessa host of the Mike Francisca podcast on Bette Rivers Network on YouTube. Longtime host Mike and the Mad Dog. That's what you hear in New York. That's what you used to hear with Mike and Chris, and they were the voice of the fan. A couple of phone calls in here Kurt and Iowa. Good morning, Kurt, what's on your mind today?
Hey, good morning, Dan, Goodrning boys. Hey Polly, this is your old direct TV hookup for the winn A Bay Go years ago. Go with me on this. I have a little bit of a prediction for Aaron Rodgers. So the rest of the season goes a little better than the last few weeks. Looks pretty good. Sam Darnald takes the Vikings on at least a one win playoff journey, Donald to the Jets, Rogers to the Vikings, and his Brett Farve circle is complete.
That is original, but I don't think that's going to happen. Thank you, Kurt. Good to talk to you again. Because remember for everybody who says, oh, Sam Darnold and the Vikings, they drafted JJ McCarthy. Sam was brought in to be a backup quarterback to JJ. He was going to start a few games. But they thought so much of JJ McCarthy they drafted him. They drafted him high. Aaron is not going this is his last stop. I don't know how much longer he's going to play, But no, I do not see him doing the Brett Farv You know where it's the Green Bay to the Jets, to the Vikings.
Yes, paul I have another pie. Then Aaron Rodgers will play for another team in his career oh the field, not a specific time, okay, but one more stop.
Does anybody want a piece of that? We already have. The Jets will win a Super Bowl before appear in the Super Bowl before the Cowboys do. Okay, Todd, I can't.
Believe I'm saying this because I don't know. I think Rogers will play for another team beyond the Jets. I can't picture what team that is, but I think he's got another team.
Anybody think Aaron Rodgers? Who else thinks Aaron Rodgers plays for another team? Okay, I'm on an island. Well no, you're with Paulie. Oh god, no, well you might as well be on an island. We're going to die fast. Yes, yeah, Marvin, you want a piece of that that Aaron Rodgers plays for somebody else? You know.
I'm team Paulie too.
Oh yeah, god, all right, don't take the bat. You guys are soft.
So which side of the vet do you have?
Aaron Rodgers doesn't play for another team.
I don't think he plays for another team.
Yeah, let's go all right. Yeah, so it's Seaton and I giving pies to Marvin, Paulie and Fritze. Right, you're on team Pauli ram Okay, that's what comes with it.
We're giving pies to you because we're winning this.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah take that.
Yeah.
Curtis in Illinois, Hi, Curtis, what's on your mind? Warner DP.
I just wanted to point out that this thing just reeks of Aaron Rodgers having his fingerprints all over it, because it reminds me of his days in Green Bay, when you had to have had some kind of hand in getting McCarthy fired mid season, and then you know, ultimately the Packers deciding to move on from him after giving him that opportunity, and it almost seems like the same thing here where if they're threatening getting rid of Hacket his buddy. He said, it's either Hacket and I'm gone, or get rid of the head coach and let me run the show. And it's ultimately going to be on him, and I think he'll go down and flames this year.
All right, Well, it's already getting warm. You know, the fire is starting to crackle a little bit there. But you know, going back to Green Bay, I don't care to. I just know that somebody in that organization said they were hoping Erin was going to leave a year earlier because they knew it just it's not what they wanted to do. That's not the direction they wanted to go in. And they had seen enough of Jordan Love that they were willing to take that chance. Not everybody knew he was going to be potentially a really good quarterback. I think they thought that he did have the potential, But everybody now looks at it, go, man, Jordan Love is you know he's going to be a Hall of Famer. I don't think they knew that, but I think they knew enough that they were willing to take a chance to go in a different direction. And that should tell you everything you need to know and Aaron going to the Jets. Look, you got paid, you got a chance bring in your buddy as an offensive coordinator. You get to bring in your buddies wide receiver Like, Okay, this is good. I get to hang out, go to the Ranger games. I get to go to the Yankee games. Everybody gets to see me on the jumbo trunk. This is awesome. I'm I'm in the media capital of the world. Hey, how are you hey? And then all of a sudden you don't win or you get injured, and then all of a sudden you're not up on the jumpbotron anymore. Yes, Pauland you know what's.
The sneaky undercovered storyline? Month one? Do you want to play guests? That's sneaky Undercreer Jordan loved not playing great for the Packers. He's a fifty six percent passer with eight touchdowns and five picks in three three games. I know I didn't play, but his all the numbers are way down from last year. It's only three games.
Yeah, but check his overall winning record, his winning percentage. I think he has a losing record.
Yeah, he's ten and eleven in his career with the Packer.
Yes, as a starting quarterback and they're paying him fifty million dollars a year.
Last year he did have thirty two touchdowns eleven picks, way high numbers.
I know, It's just I keep saying this. I gotta see more before I invest in that kind of money. Seems like a great kid. When we met with him in Vegas, he looked great. Second half of the season. He was probably the best quarterback. You go to Dallas, you dominate there. You know you got a chance to get to the NFC title game, like there was so much momentum, But we get caught up in those moments or a half a season or maybe one season. If I'm giving that much money, I got to see a couple of I got to see consistency there. Because if I said to the Cardinals, you could have a do over with Kyler Murray, do you think they they would pay him that money when they paid it now? Maybe do you think the Eagles would have paid Jalen Hurts that money, Maybe Trevor Lawrence. Maybe the Bengals would have done that with Joe Burrow. The Chargers would have done that with Justin Herbert. But what I'm saying is I need to see a little bit more. The sample size is got to be more than eighteen games. It just does for me to spend that kind of money, or I do it a year early. I can't do that. I know the Bills did that with Josh Allen. Well, Josh Allen is different. You know, they ended up getting a bargain with Josh Allen. The Chiefs. You know, with Patrick Maholmes, they ended up getting a bargain with him. But that's why, you know, when these quarterbacks come up, I just need I need to see a larger sample size.
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It's the final hour on this Wednesday, at least for The Dan Patrick Show. Gang's all here ready to go, big time actor Patrick Schwarzenegger, Arnold Son. He's in a TV series. He plays Tim Tebow. It's f x's American Sports Story Aaron Hernandez and it airs every Tuesday on FX and the next day on Hulu. So Patrick Schwarzenegger will join us coming up here. In a moment, I saw the master Distiller, not distiller, the master distiller, Brian Nation from Keeper's Heart. I saw him in the back. I said, we talking whiskey today, and he said, yeah, I'll come out and maybe talk some whiskey. This is a guy who has Bono on speed dial, and he also has the prints of Monaco on speed dial. Yeah, I'm Pauline.
I actually have a whiskey question. I'll save it, but I want to ask you. There's an ice situation. I told I was making a glass for myself and I threw the rocks in as they called him. Yeah, you guys, don't throw the me. You don'tant I'm chipping waters down the drink. I'm like, really, I didn't give it that much thought.
But they do have those ice cubes that they just freeze them. You get no water in it, yes, but I like a little bit of water, right, Sometimes it brings out the flavor a little bit more. Yeah. See the uh.
When I was in Las Vegas, I met a dude from Ireland and we were talking and he pulled out his I think he worked at like another distillery. Oh, okay, and I was just like, Okay, I don't know what he did there, but I was just like, oh, yeah, you.
Got to tell that story, quicker. I met a dude and he pulled out his and then you got that dy.
It's called suspense paining the picture, yes, and then changing it up on you. Okay, But anyway, I was just like, oh, yeah, you know Brian Nation. And he snapped a look at me, like, yeah, how do you know Brian Nation? Like hello, I'm plugged in. Yeah, Brian Nation from a keeper's heart. He's a master distiller.
That's right, by the way. Big It's not a big ten Saturday Night. It's a big big ten Saturday Night. Ohio State Oregon Saturday on NBC and Peacock Here Comes Saturday Night, presented by Discovered. Last I looked. According to DraftKings, Ohio State is favored by three on the road. We did in and out last hour. We didn't get into to all of the topics are you in or are you out? And we have two more so before we bring in Patrick Schwarzenegger, who I don't I've been in two movies with him. Really, I was in Benchwarmers, and I think.
That was the other one.
And you were in Terminator too with his father.
I was. I was interminator too, nice nightfall walk. Yeah, I was reciprocating. You know, Arnold brought me in, so I bring in his son.
What was I in?
Not housepunny? I don't think so. I think it was, Oh, we're checking, okay. It's just so hard to keep the multituator it is. And I got my script yesterday for Happy Gilmore too. Now I got they're called sides. I got my sides. That means I got that part of the script that my line's on it. And I got a lot of lines in this, and I'm hopeful that I can nail these things. There's some potentially funny lines. I mean, I'm gonna have to take Sandler's words and then make them my own to make them funny. But I'm willing to do that. Yes, Ton, are you a cue cards kind of guy?
Or you're able to memorize the whole deal and just.
Try to do it on one table? We don't have Q cards.
Do you have a call for a line? Has it ever gotten to that point.
I have called for a line before I have called for a line.
How's that go? Just called line like that.
It works. Yeah, I might say line damn it right now? Line Yeah, I mean, depending on the role that I have. Yes, but there's no Q cards.
Now.
I did hear that Robert Downey Junior had a role where he had an ear piece and he was fed lines, and I think that was the movie with Robert duval if that sounds right. Yes, Paul I.
Actually saw something with Robert Duvall when he was in the Godfather. They have pictures from behind the scenes of the making of the Godfather. Marlon Brando was not big on memorizing. Why so the other actors who are young and less established, they would actually wear like little billboards on their chest with Marlon Brando's lines when they're shooting it from behind them to get Marlon Brando. You could find these pictures online. You see Marlon Brando doing his thing.
Yeah, And there's.
Robert Davall with words on his chest, not his actual chest, more so on the front of his his sport code.
Correct.
Okay, Yes, My wife was once on Pensacola Wings of Gold and remember that, yeah, Bikini Girl number three, and she said that nobody there knew their lines and that everything was like line, hey you can't do that, line, want me to arrest you? Line that book them like. It was just like that, one after the other after the other, and it was just like, how is this such a quality show?
Quickly? Was this the way they do this?
We quickly went from Godfather to Pensacola Wings of Gold and no Steps.
It's essentially the Godfather of We've.
Never seen that episode of Your Wife?
No, I haven't either.
You've never seen it?
No, she didn't like exactly like have it on VHS or something like, hey you want to see this?
Do you want the IT team to get on that episode?
Yeah?
She had to run in slow motion like yeah, like where you run run? Oh don't I know that from Pam Anderson? Yeah yeah, pamerl number three, big deal bikini girl. That's how she was listed in the credit.
That's our credit.
Yes, Pauline ninety seven through two thousand. Pensacola Wings did not get picked up for season four. James Brolin was one of the.
Jimmy I was trying to leave names out the old Uh Jimmy didn't bother learning his lines, you know what I mean?
Line he didn't you want to get tacos? Line. Yeah, yeah, two l pastor line.
We're gonna have to ask her to memorize the four words.
Just not asking, all right, Paulie, This the final two in or on just to recap.
You say you're in. If you're in, and if you're out.
You say I'm out.
Okay, these are the last two, little quirky. Now that he's a grown up, Bronnie James should go by Lebron James Junior.
Mm hmm.
The back of his uniform says James Junior on it, and Bronnie is a nickname. I don't think it's his given name. Would you go by Lebron James Junior now that you're a grown up and getting paid as a professional, or go by Brownie?
I go Bronnie.
I'm out.
You're you're out?
Call him brownie? Yeah, some type of individuality.
Yeah, I'm out. I'm out on that, I'm in. Okay.
Last one, this is just not based on anyone around here or the building. Asking your girlfriend to marry you at a sporting event or even on the jumbo tron is a great thing. You see those guys you get one knee.
I'm out. No, that's that's terrible. No, out, out, out, out, out out out. Yes.
I don't think you could just say in or out on this question because it depends the rules of the game though, no, no, no, But for us, I'm out on it because it wouldn't have worked in my situation, But that doesn't mean that it doesn't work for other situations.
Yeah, I'm giving my opinion on this.
I'll tweak it. Then, what's your opinion of other people asking their girlfriend to marry them at a sporting event.
I think it kind of depends on the relationship, Like my wife would be like, no, no, no, we're not doing that.
You have to have a girlfriend who's a hardcore sports fan, correct.
Yeah, or likes to be on camera on the jumbo tron and you know, likes to be in front of everybody, and you're.
Sure the person's going to say yes would be helpful to do.
But I'm out, I don't. I don't want to do it. I did know somebody who did do that, and she said no, but you know she's then said later, I was saying no right now, but he was crushed.
When they do, they're like no no, no, stand up, stand up, yeah no no no no no no no no no, I thought.
This was just a kiss camposing to me, No, we were on a kiss cam once Todd and I and well, no, I didn't know we were on a kiss cam. And then Todd was saying like, hey, hey, and I'm going.
I planted you don't know me like that. You said to me, you don't know me like that?
All right?
We spoke with, Uh, You're so lucky that.
I know.
I immediately would have kissed you. You guys, did you did kiss on?
I've done a shot out of his gel belly button.
That was my surgically repaired stomach. He just went in there.
We will always have that moment.
I'm an actor, but I could never do that more method. I guess, yes, it would take meth for me to Patrick Schwarzenegger actor model plays Tim Tebow in FX's American Sports Story Aaron Hernandez tuesdays on FX the next day on Hulu. We spoke to him last week and the first question I asked is what made you take the role of Tim Tebow.
Oh, that's a that's a great question.
I mean, first off, I'm a huge sports fan, massive football fan from college to NFL, so obviously I knew a lot about this story, and obviously I knew a lot about Tim Tebow, but from an actor's point of view, I was, you know, it's always my goal to kind of work on projects that are going to hopefully elevate me that I can learn from other actors or learn, you know, work with really great producers or directors. And when I had the opportunity to work with Ryan Murphy, again, that was a you know, a blessing. It's always great to work with him. He produces such great content. So that was kind of what first drew me in. And then it was just this story. I mean, it's really just a heartbreaking, you know, fascinating true crime story, and you know, Tim Tebow is just a sliver of the story, but he gets to kind of provide this light at the end of the tunnel for Aaron and for the story, and he's kind of this humanizing element.
So for me, it was a no brainer to play.
But do you have to become Tim Tebow? I mean, I know size wise you can't, but what are you trying to emulate or represent with Tim Tebow?
Yeah?
For kind of my research when I was doing Tim, I mean I was listening to every single audio book of his. I mean, for me, it was really the voice, the physicality, like you said, although I couldn't get to the size and such a short amount of time, how Tim kind of conducts himself as this larger than life teddy bear that's just full of energy.
And how he talks.
So I worked with a voice coach a lot on trying to get elements of kind of his lisp and then how he talks. He's always like this, and he's just always bunched up and he's almost about to run out of energy and run out of words, and it's like he doesn't take a breath during his voice and when he's talking. So that I watched probably hundreds of hours of his sermons of him preaching at different campuses and stadiums because we have some scenes like that in the show. So I did my best to try to, you know, emulate him in other ways besides just the physical build What.
About football scenes? Are there going to be any that you have to be a football player? You have to be Tim Tebow in the field.
Yeah, So I think it was pretty funny because I grew up playing football, you know, I mean, I enjoy it. I love sports, so I would call myself athletic. And when I went for the football training camp, and on the first day we had to do kind of some of the drills. I'm very comfortable except for the fact of Tim is lefty, so everything was kind of reverse from the three step drop back to when you would go for the throwing motion, and throwing a football lefty is the most awkward, weird thing if you're a right hand person, you know. So what they ended up having to do was I would go to throw the ball, and right when I would pretend to throw the ball, they would they would yell out pause, and then a real you know, a real performer could come in take my place throw the football lefty, and then they would say pause again, and then I would come back in and pretend I threw the ball. So that was how we kind of got the Hollywood way around me throwing lefty.
Did you meet Tim Tim Tebow?
I've met Tim, you know, once in the past, and he was such a great, you know, nice guy to me. But I didn't meet him for this at all. You know, I didn't obviously want to respect him. And this is not a quote unquote documentary, you know, it's more of a dramatized version of events that happened and stuff. So, but he's always been, you know, really kind and supportive towards towards me, and I have a lot of mutual friends with him.
But I didn't I didn't reach out to him.
For this American sports story. Aaron Hernandez ten episode limited series had already premiered on the seventeen, and it's a ten Eastern Pacific and season finale November twelfth. What did you find out about Aaron Hernandez that you didn't know?
Well, I think that there were kind of like different time periods for me of when I learned about this. You know, obviously when it first kind of happened and everything was coming out circulating in the news, and then there were you know, further podcasts which this show was actually about, and then you know, even of recent there was the documentary, and then there was stuff on the Swampkins and on Florida Gators.
So I would say I knew a lot. I think.
For me it was really interesting since you know, I'm playing Tim Tebow was really learning about the Florida Gators and kind of what else was happening behind the scenes during this tenure there. I was pretty shocked about all the arrests and the troubles within the football program and at the school during the time. And then I would also say it was pretty you know, interesting to learn about Aaron's childhood and kind of some of the other events that happened in his life that I don't want to say that led to where he kind of went, but had impacts on who he was that probably the general public didn't know from his family dynamic family situation and what had happened with his father and just I think that's what makes the show, you know, pretty interesting, is that it covers all basises from you know, high school up until you know the end.
How much pressure was there on you to be a bodybuilder to lift weights?
Oh?
Zero zero?
In the household, not at all.
No.
I mean, I think the thing with my dad is he's very there's a lot of pressure to find your your dreams and your your goals and your passions, whether that is bodybuilding, whether that's acting, or whether you want to be a school teacher, or you want to be a podcast host, or you want to be a you know, work at the local church and do philanthropy.
Whatever that is.
That's what he's more of a believer in and really like kind of taking step back in your life, having this vision of where you want to go, and then how do you utilize each and every day of each and every month and so on and so forth to get closer and closer towards those goals. But he never pressured me at all to do to do bodybuilding. He never put me into pressure to do acting. But I fell in love with acting. Going to the sets with him growing up it was like my favorite activity. He would always let me play hooky from school and go and sit on his set back when they would film everything in la but never towards towards bodybuilding.
What movie or set moment stands out? All those times you went with Dad.
When he was mister Freeze, that was that was the best.
I have these photos of me with him with the outfit, and I would have the before and after when he would go into the trailer to hair and makeup and he was Dad and then getting the bald cap and the blue all over him and the huge, you know, mister Freeze suit and stuff like that. But yeah, going to set growing up was like, you know, anytime he had a break. We got to take the golf cart and go over to the et Ride, or we could go over to Jaws Universal Studios.
It was like it was it was the best.
Uh, if you can if you can wave a magic wand and have your USC Trojans, your Dodgers or Lakers win another championship, oo would be.
I Maybe I'm I feel like this right now. I'm gonna go with the Dodgers. I mean, we've just put too much on the line this year. We've invested so much. We've had heartbreak year after year the last couple of years, and everyone says the asterisk with the twenty twenty season and such.
You know, So I'm going with the Dodgers. I mean, I think we have a break future ahead. I don't know. The Lakers future doesn't seem nearly as bright. So I'm gonna go with the Dodgers, all right.
Coolest actor you ever met growing up?
Coolest actor.
I don't think he's I don't know if you'd callify him as a as an actor, but Guy Fury, Oh.
Yeah, we've had him on the show quite a few times.
I'm a huge fan. I love the flavored town.
Have you been on the show.
I've never been on his show. Oh, we say, yeah, yeah, please do. I would love to do it.
Okay, but that'll go over well at home. If a guy decides to come to your place or takes you out, you go out to a restaurant. You know how this works.
Yeah, bring him over, slap some meat on the grill.
Let's do it. Okay, it sounds great. Good luck with the show. Great to catch up with you, and thanks for joining us.
Patrick, Well, thank you man, I appreciate it, and have a great day, have.
A great week, Patrick Schwarzenegger. The show is American Sports Story. Aaron Hernandez. He portrays Tim Tebow. All right, we'll take a break. We'll get to more phone calls coming up back after this Dan Patrick's show.
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You know, if you weren't with us in the first hour. Diana Rassini, she's on the Jets story with the athletic and I said, any other coach is going to be fired mid season? She's like, yeah, once you have one organization firing a coach, then it kind of opens the door like you're not the first to fire your coach. I'm like, okay, and then you start to look around, you go okay, if it goes south or further south for Jacksonville the Saints situation, like I don't know which teams would pull the trigger because you also have to you could be bad, but you're just going to ride this out, or you have an owner like you do with the Jets. He's like, that's it. I've seen enough. I got embarrassed. We went to London. I have my friends there and I'm an ambassador there, former ambassador there, and we end up losing on firing you. I don't know how many like Jerry Jones feels like he can do it. But Jerry is so loyal, like he's been loyal to a fault. Certainly with Jason Garrett. I don't think if it went south for the Cowboys that he would fire him. And you're not getting Bill Belichick, as Mike frances has said last hour, You're not getting Bill Belichick. Doesn't matter. He's not coming there. Does Mike Rable go there? Yeah? Maybe, but not during the season. Yes, Marvin.
Is Kevin Stefanski in any trouble in Cleveland? Or is that just Deshaun Watson.
Wasn't he coach of the Year last year? Then they make the playoffs last year, won a playoff game. Yeah, that one's tough because you gotta It feels like he knows the best situation is to bench his starting quarterback, but he can't. And I don't know if he'd pay the price for that. I hope he wouldn't. But with that ownership, I can't roll that out.
Yeah, Paul, Yeah, the Rams are one and four. There's a long way to go. It feels like Sean McVay, though, has a two year window of badness. He has to have two bad seasons back to back to be in danger because Super Bowl five and twelve, A lot of injuries last year, ten and seven, one and four this year.
I think he's on scholarship as long as he wants to be there. It feels like they won a Super Bowl. I think they have injuries, you know. I think what happens after Matthew Stafford retires will be interesting with the Rams. Does Sean McVeigh want to continue to do that or does he go into the broadcasting booth because he was going to make same money or maybe more money being a broadcaster. But as we've seen with these coaches who become broadcasters, that lure that poll is always going to bring there to bring you back, because there's nothing that can replicate that you can be out at the games. I talked to Tony Dungee about it, and I said, you know you're on the field, you're talking football. He says, nothing replaces being on the sidelines.
Yes, Mark, is Zach Taylor on the hot seat in Cincinnati at all?
I'd say yeah, I'd say yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't like troubleshooting this because you know, Doug Peterson, should he be fired? I don't know. I'm not urban Meyer needed to be fired. Like there's certain situations where you go that guy is not good for the team and needs to be fired. Doug Peterson's won a super Bowl, they've underachieved. But do you lose your job, that's I mean, that's drastic. Then you get fired during the season. Now, every year, how many coaches get fired on that Black Monday. You know there's usually four or five. But you have to really good. You have Ben Johnson the offensive coordinated with the Lions. He was the choice, the candidate, and he was asking a lot, so he went back to the lines. But you're gonna have Belichick and you're gonna have Mike Vrabel. If you're an owner, you're going, okay, are we better with my coach or one of those coaches? And if you go just top three, there chances are those three are gonna be better than your coach. Chances are all right. Update the poll results. And I saw Brian Nation out there, the master distiller with Keeper's heart. If we can have Brian come out, I got some whiskey questions to ask him. Aaron Rodgers makes the Jet job right now?
Eighty nine percent have that less attractive, also more to blame for the Jets struggles. The quarterback is thirty six percent of the vote, followed closely by the owner. Head coach is in last place. Oh on that one, last place?
Oh look here, yeay it it's Brian Nation with his fake accent. He's got his Vit King's jersey on. Look at you, of course, Keeper's heart in Minneapolis, Saint Paul, Yeah, and you look good. You got your you know. He did text me after the Vikings one on Sunday, and I said, oh, you're a longtime Viking fan. How long you been a Viking fan for?
Ever? Since I was two?
Ever since you were too drunk. You're better than that. You got here.
I got here at twenty twenty one.
Okay, so you've been a Vikings fan for three years.
I've been a Vikings fan for three years.
Okay.
It's just been amazing, yes, okay.
So if you're new to the show, Brian Nation Master Distiller came over from Ireland and created a lot of those great whiskeys there comes over to Keeper's Heart. One of our favorite sponsors creates awarded the best Irish whiskey in the world.
Yeah, which was which was fantastic Back in twenty twenty three when our ten year old Single Month was awarded Best Irish Whiskey for twenty twenty three the world by the San Francisco International Spirits Competition.
You know, it was one of those ones.
It's like our Academy Awards when it comes to Spirits because it's the longest running award show and the most revered.
So it was a nice one to get in our bowl.
And you know, we keep getting lots of different awards for our whiskey and we're really really happy with that. But the most important thing for us, in the biggest reward for us, it's more people that drink it, and it is growing and it's great to see that that growth of keeper's heart around the US.
Okay, to become a distiller, but then to become a master distiller? What makes you a master distiller?
Well, I mean for me, it was all about getting experienced and I was one of the fortunate ones when you look at where I came from in terms of being an Irish distillers. I was mentored by one of the icons not just in Irish whisky but in world whiskey, Barry Crockett. And to be mentored by him for eleven years before I took over his master distiller was thing that was I was very, very fortunate.
But is there a test that you take to become a master distiller.
It's more it's more a test of life experiences within the distilling industry, to be honest, and getting to know the intricacies of how you actually make the finest quality distiller and the best styles of whiskey. So it's all about the experience. There are some courses nowadays that you can actually go and become a master master Distiller, but for me, it was it was more the heart's slog of experience and working your way up to it.
You know. So here I thought you took a test? Did you just name yourself a master distiller?
Like this.
Distiller?
Here we going?
Why do you you?
You know it's after taking me twelve months to recover from my last time I was on your show.
Well, you came in and you told me that you knew Bono.
Oh jesus, here we go. I did that, Yes, you did.
You said that you were good friends with Bono and Prince Albert of Monaco. So you are you going to go back over?
No?
No, no, this is why you had a hard time because I called you out on this by calling you out as a master Distiller. Yeah, I think you just called yourself Well I.
Mean yeah, basically, I just I just christened myself master Distiller.
But no, I mean, and you did try to contact Bono when you were on the show that day, right.
She's talking about rewriting history.
Oh did you did you? I cannot beat.
I can't believe.
Did you reach out to Prince Albert.
On the show.
Yeah, after the show.
No, I told I told you that I wouldn't. I wouldn't actually expose them to to you.
What are like?
I mean, I don't blame you.
Yeah, exactly, So why would they do that?
Okay?
But Bono, how did I come up with the Bono story? If you didn't tell me that you knew Bono?
Well, I think you came up with on a story because you took a story I was telling that night, and you embellished it.
You know, it's a good way to it's good like you're good at it. But I felt I won that battle on the show.
But like embellishing calling yourself a master? Yeah yeah, fair enough, fair enough.
I mean I I go around every day and I just say hi, I'm the master. Yeah.
Oh I know when you go home, but I go home?
Yeah yeah.
Does your wife go hello master?
That is the last thing my wife?
Yes, I can see that. Okay. The most common mistake made in drinking whiskey is what is.
People feel they have to drink it in a certain way. And for me, you know, that's the worst thing a person can do with whiskey. I mean, whiskey is about any drink is about enjoying the way the way you want to drink it. And for me, people ask all the time, what's the best way to drink whiskey, And my answer is always you drink whiskey the way you enjoy it. Now, when you're doing something like a tasting, you're always going to do it in a certain protocol. But if you're there at home and you want to enjoy a glass of whiskey, try it the way you feel you'll enjoy it. Mix it, drink it neat on the rocks, whatever, but don't feel that you have to drink it a certain way because then it almost brings a trepidation to it.
And that's, you know, it's that's not what whiskey is about.
Whiskey is about being able to sit down, relax and enjoy with friends or even on your own water.
But it's intimidating though, because you drink a beer growing up. When you're younger, you might drink bad wine or whatever it might be, have a bad experience with tequila, like whiskey is like when you're growing like you're grown up when you're drinking it, or how do you drink it? Do I put it. Do I put ice in it? Do I put water in it? You know what's the best way to actually know how you're drinking? I wouldn't know.
Yeah, And I think one of the things about keep Heart and one of the things that we do even at our distillery is we make it. We make whiskey very approachable in terms of the cocktails that we offer at her at our facility, but also the versatility of the whiskey of Keeper's Heart makes it a whiskey that you can actually mix very very easily with. But to back to your question on you know, what's the best way or what's the way if you want to if you want to understand the full flavors of a whiskey, the first thing you do is you actually knows it's neat, so you actually sniff the whiskey, try to feel what kind of flavors you get. Everybody's palette is different, so they're going to get different flavors. But that gives you an idea of the different types of flavors that come in the whiskey. When you add a drop of water that will open the whiskey up, you'll get different flavors. If it sits in the glass and it just sits and leaves. It gets warm in the glass in a room, you know, again, there'll be different flavors. So there is a bit of a journey in whiskey because it's such a complexity of flavor and such a great balance of flavor. But also when you mix it in a cocktail like an old fashioner of Manhattan, you're actually able to see that the whiskey, particularly keeper's heart is the is the hero of the cocktail.
And we are such I mean when we went up there, I got Fritzy and I got Marvin, who were drinking whiskey and they did shots and I said, no, no, no, you sip it. So when I gave them the whiskey, they were like boom, and I go, where's your whiskey? And Marvin goes, uh, I downd it. I go, no, no, no, we're not doing shots. It's just you're sipping it.
Sorry about that. I didn't know, no, very stumbling yeah.
And he lets you know I was there. He lets you know so many times that you shouldn't have had that you should be shot.
I kept saying, sip, sip, Paul, He's got a couple of questions from uh from the Twitter. Okay, if let's.
Say this guy has said my wife is hesitant to try whiskey, would you tell her to mix it with a little bit of water, a little bit of ginger ale or there.
To cut it?
Okay? So what would you do if you're just his wife wants to try.
Yeah.
So for me, if a person hasn't tried whiskey before and are worried about the an intense flavor or whatever, I would definitely try it, like in something like a mule or a whiskey lemonade, because what it does do is it allows the flavors of the whiskey to come to life, but it also brings some of the robus flavors down a little bit by adding some lemonade or some ginger ale. We like for us during the summer, particularly our Keeper's Heart Irish plus American works great in a whiskey mule, and our Irish plus Bourbon works great in a whiskey lemonade. So again showing the versatility, and that's definitely a great way to be introduced to whiskey. And we find that at our distillery in Minneapolis as well, is that when people come in and are intimidated by whiskey. The first thing they do is they try it in a cocktail and you'll find that a lot of people by the end of the night then are actually kind of brave enough our want to try and neat as well to appreciate the flavor more on it in its concentrated form, and they're surprised, which is great for us because they're surprised in a good way and they walk away as ambassadors for Keeper's Heart, which is, you know, great for us.
When's the last time you were drunk?
Okay, I was with Paddy Coffee last night, our marketing director.
Yes, from Dublin. Yes, I leave it there.
Yeah. See, you should fire Patty because he drinks all the profits Paddy.
Paddy is Paddy is desperate, Like I mean, Jesus every time you go away with Paddy. Actually, I'm never going to travel with Patty again. Because we got on a flight yesterday at twelve thirty a pm and we landed in Hartford at eight fifteen pm. We'd have been to Ireland, so we were diverted. We were halfway to Connecticut and we were worked it back to Detroit because there was a problem with the wings and then we have to get on another plane.
So I reckon Patty's jinx.
How do you say thirty third?
Thirty third?
It's turny turn, trty turn Yeah, yeah, turd.
It's actually funny because when you're when you're doing tastings and when you're doing tours at the distillery, or you're talking about the triple distillation process. I always talk about the third distillation, and some people are kind of looking a bit queer at me, going, what did you say?
Then?
I got the third?
Yeah? The third? Yeah? Wait, what do you put in there? The turd? Uh? He's Brian Nation, He's a master distiller. Just ask him. It's a keeper's heart. Asked for it at your favorite liquor stores. We'll take a break. You're going to show us how to make some cocktails during the on peacock.
Ya, but I brought your present?
Did you? I know?
Now you know I shouldn't be telling you you brought you present?
Why did you show me? When we go to commercial break and then we'll let people are watching, they can actually see it, okay in my hand on peka, Okay, all right,