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Published Sep 11, 2024, 4:52 PM

Dan discusses the new lawsuit against Browns QB Deshaun Watson. Jimmy Fallon shares stories from his days at Saturday Night Live. And Mike Golic Sr. reacts to Notre Dame's upset loss against Northern Illinois.

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So we got a few things to talk about here. Christian McCaffrey is if he for Week two, Panthers lose their best player. Now you're probably not aware that Derek Brown is their best player, but coming off of Pro Bowl season defensive tackle, he's gone for the year. Justin Fields likely to start for Pittsburgh in Denver. This was one of the more expensive tickets preseason because it was Russell Wilson going back to Denver and Bronco fans were ready to welcome him. And it's looking like Justin Fields will get the start against the Broncos. Also, the NFL is looking at a new Deshaun Watson lawsuit. It's new because it's been refiled, but it's from an old charge back in twenty twenty. There was immediate speculation yesterday out of Cleveland that this was maybe fed to the Cleveland media to bring up and now maybe away for Cleveland ownership to get out of this contract with Deshaun Watson. So the timing of this very curious. Yes, it's from an old chart. Now you know the Cleveland Browns ownership is already said basically, we don't care what he did off the field. You brought him in, you paid him two hundred and thirty million dollars. I don't know if you can go, hey, he's not playing well boy. We're really disappointed that this charge lawsuit from twenty twenty has come back up refiled. Now, is there a way to get out of this contract? I mean, I wouldn't put it past Brown's ownership that they would do something like this, and they're looking at buyer's remorse here with Deshaun Watson. But that came up yesterday. It was like, okay, somebody's refiling a lawsuit twenty twenty, and then all of a sudden, it's coud the Browns get out of this contract with Deshaun Watson. I don't know the legalities of that, but if the NFL's look into it, I guess there's the possibility. I don't know the language there with I don't know if they put any language in his contract. When you think about it, hey, we're going to take you. What you did off the field is criminal, certainly creepy, but hey, we're going to give you two hundred and thirty million dollars. We're not that bothered by it, And now all of a sudden, can you say you're bothered by it? Is there language in his contract that would allow you to get out from underneath a two hundred and thirty million dollar contract. Everything is guaranteed. I guess if I'm the Browns ownership, sure, I mean, my moral compass isn't pointing, you know, in the right direction to begin with with Deshaun Watson. So if you decide that, you go, yeah, let's get out of this. I don't know if somebody's going to go, Wow, what a lack of integrity. You've already shown it. You brought in to Shaun Watson. Now, he said he's got other things on his mind, a couple of deaths in the family. His father died, and he'd didn't play well. He hasn't played well, But that was not something that we worried about with Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson when he played with Houston played pretty well for a bad team. He didn't want to go to Cleveland. I'm told he wanted to go to Atlanta. Cleveland said, no, you want to go to Cleveland. Everything is guaranteed, yes, PAULI.

There's a couple of articles out there.

It's very a lot of legal ease.

But to summarize, there's things in Shaan Watson's contract that under the category of default, like let's say you go skydiving and gets hurt. You know, the typical stuff that everybody has. But he has some things in there that the normal player might not certain things around conduct detrimental, being suspended under the NFL's Personal conduct policy, performance stancing drugs, et cetera. Also, he has a clause if the club reasonly believes that he's engaged in personal conduct, et cetera, et cetera. So he has a number of clauses in the contract that the normal player might not have because of his previous situations.

Yeah, but these are pre existing lawsuits. This isn't something new that's come up that to me is would be a non starter with you know, conduct detrimental. This was before you've already signed off on Deshaun Watson. You can't be bothered by one lawsuit if you weren't bothered by twenty three lawsuits. And I would say if something came up now, okay, you know, but they're talking about things that would come up now, player charged with indicted for convicted of conduct which would be subject to a charge, indictment or conviction or any such offense. Okay, I mean that's for the duration of his contract. But I don't know if Deshaun Watson disclosed things that were there allegations. Did they know this was coming, you know, before he signs this contract, before the Browns gave him the contract. I'm gonna guess you're not going to sign him if you think that there's the possibility that he could go to jail, be suspended. But now this came up, and it's from a charge a lawsuit in twenty twenty from what I've read, and the immediate speculation. Now, if he was playing well, people wouldn't care about this. But he has not played well. And you start to look at that Cleveland team, and they do have talent there. I know they don't have Nick Chubb. Amari Cooper is a quality receiver, he's not a number one receiver. David and Joku can be really good. Jerry Judy, I don't know if he's ever gonna be. I mean, he just strikes me as somebody who was fast at Alabama and didn't do much after that, and I don't know. It's not bad to have a third receiver like that, but I just don't know how much he cares about playing football. And then you got I mean, I got Miles Garrett. Like it feels like you have things. You went to the playoffs with Joe Flacco. It just seems like if you have Deshaun Watson back. I mean, it's not similar to Aaron Rodgers, but it does feel like they went to the playoffs with Joe Flacco Deshaun Watson there, they should be even better. The Jets won seven games with Zach Wilson. They should be better with Aaron Rodgers. But you know, the Cleveland Browns, they went to the playoffs and now all of a sudden you're looking at them now. Granted Dallas, Dallas is a better team, but Dallas hit Deshaun Watson seventeen times. It was the league high for a game. And if you say, well, compare the numbers. The next closest was eleven times a quarterback was hitting the game.

So that's a whoa.

Stall a day, Stana Day, Stanaaday, Stanaaday.

He says.

The stat of the day.

Stat of Theday brought to you by Panani America. I said it yesterday on the show, and Paulie goes, are you sure about seventeen? I go, yes, the Browns hit h He got hit seventeen times by the Cowboys in that game. Now you're going to be a little gun shy if just about every play you're dropping back to pass you're going to get hit. You know, you're going to start to think about it. You're going to get it down a little quicker. He looked uncomfortable the entire game. But is this about Deshaun Watson? Is it about the Cleveland Browns. It feels like, you know, the onus is on Deshaun Watson, like we're paying and he should be great. You're paying him, you gave him guaranteed. Now you were desperate. I got to factor that in as well, Denver desperate. I got to factor that in as well. With Russell Wilson, you know, these franchises act stupid. Sometimes brilliant businessmen to make billions and then they act stupid. I mean what the Giants did with Daniel Jones. Don't understand it. Don't understand it. And the Browns you spend that kind of money under Sean Watson I don't think you can be incredulous to say I can't believe it, because when I saw it, I thought, is this a new one?

Like?

Was he getting a massage in Cleveland? Now all of a sudden you got grounds to maybe terminate that contract. This is from twenty twenty, and you've already moved past this. Ownership wise, it's like, yeah, boy, that's terrible what he did. Here's two hundred and thirty million dollars. Come on in, all's forgotten with us. We don't care, yes, Marmon.

And it was guaranteed, and I'm sure other owners were looking at the Browns like, woa, this is the guy you're giving. First of all, don't give him guaranteed money. Don't give this guy guaranteed money.

The ownership was not happy with that around the NFL, from what I'm told. But you see how much Dak Prescott's got contracts guaranteed two hundred thirty one million dollars. Do you think it's just a two thirty and then he coincidentally got a two hundred thirty one million dollar deal. I don't think so, yes, Paul.

What makes even worse for Cleveland is that they have to watch Baker Mayfield throw for twenty eight touchdowns and ten picks at one third the price.

Right. Yeah, uh so you know you have these contracts. The Cowboys officially tied to Dak Prescott for the next four seasons, and you know you have to these teams take a chance. Denver took a chance Cleveland. You know, they had to get rid of the number one overall pick Baker Mayfield to make way for Deshaun Watson, and Baker has played really well. Deshaun Watson's played thirteen games in two seasons. The Broncos whiffed on Russell Wilson. They gave him two hundred and forty five million dollars. The experiment lasted two seasons. They're paying him over thirty five million dollars to not play for them, to play for this Steelers teams are aggressive, but if we've learned anything from these quarterbacks, a proven commodity holds tremendous value in today's NFL. You got to overpay sometimes. Then there are times when you're going to whift. I just don't know how Denver can say, come on in and we got to trade guys. I guess it. That's a terrible deal. Deshaun Watson is a terrible deal. That's because ownership is desperate to find their franchise quarterback.

Yes, he when do we start looking at if the Broncos whiffed with their head coach, I would say the development of Bo Nicks. I mean, he probably bought himself two seasons because if Russ continued to play and play poorly, then.

We would look at the head coach there. But I I mean when Sean Payton came in, he said, this is a mess and this coach that's one of the worst coaching jobs ever. And then Sean did not like Russell Wilson wasn't his kind of quarterback, and he was going to get rid of him very costly. But now you got your guy. Now you got your next Drew Brees or you better hope because if not, you'll have two seasons to prove yourself.

Yes, Mark, if you're a Browns fan, ooh, you're hoping that the Texans don't win the Super Bowl, like, oh, not a game.

Well, there's a couple of teams like Carolina. Better hope that the Texans don't win the Super Bowl because I mean I watched when Bryce Young threw the pick six and he went over to the bench and it was like somebody brought their son to work day and he was just kind of sitting there, you know when your kids don't want to be someplace and they're kind of moping, and he just had this really sad look on his face. And I don't know him. I think we had him on during the draft, but I feel bad for him. Like there's certain situations where you go, I don't know if it gets any better. I don't know how it gets much better because it's Carolina. With that ownership. You lose your best player, Bryce Young goes. I mean imagine going to the line of scrimmage going, oh my god, I'm going to be running for my life. We don't have any weapons. This ain't Alabama.

You know.

Do I have any eligibility left? Maybe I'll go back to Alabama, Yes, Paul.

It's like the lifestyle is so different for like brock Purty. He goes, I could run it, or I could drop back and comforty pass it to a number of people, and I'm probably gonna have a lot of time to do. So it's like they're playing two different football games.

Those guys and you know, here's the Niners with now Christian McCaffrey, and it's not a big deal. He may not play this next game. Okay, I get what other Let's say he was on another team. Let's say he was in Carolina. This would be a huge deal if Christian McCaffrey couldn't play.

But with the.

Niners, all right, you know, we got this guy over here, Jordan Mason. He seemed to do really well. We're fine. I mean, that is depth, that is a luxury. Here the best player or the number one fantasy player, and you're like, yeah, okay, we'll see when he gets back. And this is one of those injuries that stays with you. I've mentioned before, if you have a sprained ankle, you're always going to have it because it'll be you'll be more susceptible to getting a sprained ankle. Now, this is tendonitis that Christian McCaffrey has. This has been there and going to be there probably his entire career. There are certain injuries that are lasting injuries, and this is one that will stay with him. They said it flared up, and in fairness to the Niners, I'll believe then that it flared up and then they decided they weren't going to have him suit up in that game.

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Jimmy Fallon, host of The Tonight Show. Look, who's turning fifty years of age? How is that possible? You're kind of are you taking whatever Paul Rudd is taking or Jason Bateman.

Yeah, now I'm starting to but it's happening. Fifties coming, It's.

Here okay, and you know, you get to be fifty, you start playing a little more golf. Maybe you're not doing as much work. You maybe want to slow down a little bit now you're out there. You know, with this grudge match with DJ Collin, how did this come about?

I just thought I followed DJ khaled on all the socials and the Instagrams and stuff, and so I'm looking at he keeps posting these photos of him playing golf, and he looked like he'd be fun to play with if he also looked like someone I could beat.

I'm not that good. Yeah, can you play?

I mean, I'm East Coast, I'd say probably. I'm not kidding five to ten times a year. It looks like he plays a whole lot more than that. Jimmy, Yeah, I think he lives on a golf course.

Do you think about putting money up other than somebody gets a nice cardigan, like make it interesting? Where As Tiger Woods once said to me when I said I'd like to play in golf, what are we playing for? You said, whatever makes you nervous?

Oh my god? Can I tell you, though, how nervous I actually did get?

Because so it's obviously I'm doing this to be fun and to make a funny thing. But we had a real PJ official it's we play four holes. We're at in Lake Tahoe, so we're after the We had the cameras stay after the American Century Championship.

We asked NBC to do as a favor. This whole thing came about in like two weeks.

But you get you get up to the seventeenth holes a par three, and there's five thousand people screaming, and then when you're about to swing, they're quiet.

And it's the most nerve wracking thing I've ever done in my life. I mean, I'm a canedian. I don't do that. I felt like an athlete. I'm like, oh my gosh, this is the pressure man.

And so when you see the first shot, it's it's it's I don't want to spoiler it, but it's something so ridiculous.

It feels like something you see in a movie.

Well like, as a comedian, the last thing you want to hear is silence, Like you're right.

Completely all was running around trying to hype everyone up. You know, it was funny.

We were talking to I sent DJ Khala to a text and I said, hey, dude, you just look like it'd be fun to play with.

Maybe we could.

I could challenge you on the show and we'll do something. He goes, yeah, maybe i'd be done with I just gotta check my schedule. And then I just challenged him on the show for real, and I said, the winner will get instead of a green blazer like the master's blazer, gets a red cardigan sweater and we really hype it up and that'll be the that'll be the gift that the winner gets. So I challenged him on the show live, and the next day he happened to be in New York and he came on the show and accepted. And then we called them and seeing me like how can we do this? And they're like, you can't. You can't just era an eighteen home match?

Can you play? I go not really, I mean i'd say I'm double bogie golf. You know, I don't know if you want to?

He goes, No, one wants to watch that for five hours. It's boring, So I go, so let's think of another way to do it. So it's four holes, there's a it's a breakfast ball that it's actually fascinating television.

I loved it.

Is there drinking involved? Not for me, there wasn't, But for that crowd in Tahoe. Oh yeah, Oh my goodness, dude. I was like Dan, I was like, yeah, I get to get out.

Of here, dude.

It was really maybe I would say five to ten thousand people, I'll go nuts.

You can see what coming up Friday. So this Friday, it'll be eleven thirty five Eastern. So normally when you watch the Tonight Show with Jimmy, you'll be able to see the four whole.

Now I think.

I think if you're a sports bar, you should have a full on raging party this Friday night at your bar. And if you wear a cardigan into the bar, you get a drink special, get one from your grandma, get whatever you can get at cardigan sweater, go in and go.

Yeah. Jimmy said that there'll be a drink special tonight if I wore a cardigan.

It's because it's when you're going to see a live, an unaired sporting event at you know, Friday night, Friday, at eleven thirty at night, it's perfect bar time.

Who's easier to interview if I said musicians, actors, athletes.

I would say athletes number three, definitely. I'd say I'd say probably actors. Actors number one, then musicians than athletes. I feel like athletes are tougher because they've trained their whole life to be an athlete, not really talk.

You know, it's not a gift that they trained for.

So it's it's kind of they have great stories, but they're not really media trained. You know, where actors are and musicians. I think my favorite part is comedians, just because that's where I got my start and I get to goof off with all those guys like Will Ferrell. I can send him an idea, he won't even read it, and they'll just say yes, I go, no, you should read it first.

Will. He's like, no, trut, I go, I have you dressed this little debbie. He's like, yeah, no, I love it. We'll figure it out, you know.

But I'm fascinated by all of them, you know, I'm interested in everybody I have. I once said Drew Brees on the show, and he was great, and we did a game where we were throwing footballs and breaking plates. Okay, very high quality television, and he was playing against Taylor Loudner, who was a great actor in all the Twilight movies. And so I picked up a plate and I threw it up and Drew Brees threw it and he missed. And then I threw a plate up and Taylor Loatner hit one. So now it's one nothing. Taylor Lotner second one.

I throw up.

Taylor Loutner hits his second plate. If he hits one more, he wins. All of a sudden, Drew Brees stops having fun.

He goes into this, He goes into this mode.

Laser red, laser eyes came out of his He was like jumping up and down and it was like not fun anymore.

He was throwing. Before I let go of the plate, it was disintegrating in my hand. He was like, I'm not losing to this actor.

Well, I I experienced that firsthand in Tahoe, of all places. I'm playing golf with him in a century tournament. I'd made back to back birdies. I'm on the fringe of the green with a chance for three in a row. He walks by me as I'm getting ready to putt, and he says, I can't believe that you could possibly have three birdies in a row, like with such disdain for me. We got done with the round, Jimmy and was so upset with his round. He parred the par five last hole and he walked off the green. He didn't shake my hand or Ben Roethlisberger's hand. He was so upset. And I see him the next day and I'm like, oh my god. The last guy I want to run into is Drew Brees. And I'm on the range and my caddie goes here. He comes. I go, oh my god. He walks by and he goes, hey, Dan, how you doing. I go good. He doesn't even say anything about yesterday. Yeah, and no, he got He did that whole locked in laser focus. Didn't even shake Ben Rothersberger's hand.

These athletes don't like to lose.

I remember beating Tiger Woods at a video game of his own game, and he who cares.

I mean, it's a video game, so clearly you're Tiger Woods.

He got so mad and I go, hey, Tiger, you know if you hold it was a Nintendo Wii said if you hold.

The button down and shake it, it gives you back spin. He goes, don't tell me how to play my game. It's this whole thing's a joke. What are you doing?

But when you see this thing Friday night, it is so it's so silly, but it's funny, but it's real. We have an official, a PGA official, so it's all by the rules. It starts raining, this thunder and lightning, it gets It's honestly the most everything that could happen happened. I couldn't have written it better. And he's a great guy to play with.

Are you still a Judgeman?

Yeah? I am.

You know, it's kind of that thing where you just kind of almost I don't know, it's not giving up, it's just you go, there's other things in life I can do. I can do others I can I can water color, paint, I can do anything I could do.

I just don't why why do it to yourself?

And then I'll find myself rooting for the Giants too, just because they're New Yorkers and they come on the show all the time, and straight hand, I'll get mad if I don't. So, but yeah, you know, I thought, for a second, I think a lot of Jets fans, for a second, go this could be.

We do it every year?

Why would why would we even say that to each other. Why would we say this could be don't say it. This course is not the year.

If you could only watch one of your Saturday Night Live skits, or you wanted your grandkids to see your Saturday Night like the one that you go, that's it.

Oh, I mean it's probably would have to be cow Bell or or with Will or you know.

My favorite one was Mick Jagger. I did a thing with Mick Jagger.

He was on the show and Rolling Stones were on the show, and Mick wanted to do a sketch and so I go. Lauren goes, go picture sketch to uh, Mick, And I go, if you want to go, I'm not talking to Mick Jack. I'm afraid. I can't you talk to him. He goes, no, he's cool, go talk to him. So I wrote down all these ideas. I go, Mick, I have this idea where me and you are are work at a Sunglass hut or something.

He's like, no, no, not that, not that. Ye be very very very nice to me, very very patient. He goes, not that. And so before the meeting, I said to Lauren, maybe I'll do an am pressure of Mick in the mirror you know, I'll be his reflection.

Lauren goes, please don't do that.

That's been done so many times. Please Lucille Ball did it. I just don't do it. Man.

So anyway, so I'm running down these ideas. I go, how about this idea, Mick, me and you. You're Keith and I'm Keith and he cloned himself so we can party with him whatever. And he goes like, nah, no, not that. I go down like ten ideas. I'm getting sweaty. I go, what if it's you in the mirror? And You're like, why am I doing this show again? I've done it in the seventies eighties, Now what my rooster?

What my do?

And he goes, uh, A lot? That A lot that I did? Yeah, I lot that. And so I had to go in the Loren's office and say good news and bad news. Good news. He wants to do a sketch. Bad news. We're doing the reflection in the mirror.

Then we wrote it on a Friday night, which is so rare, usually write on a Tuesday night. We were on a Friday night, got to set down. They made the best reflective set where everything is backwards in the mirror and we rehearsed it once and did it on Saturday night and the place erupted.

It was a it was I think it was for me. It was a perfect sketch for me.

Let me, let me see a little bit. You got a purple like a blouse on or something here?

Yeah, yeah, I got I'm wearing a purple. We're both wearing matching Mick Jagger purples satin blouses. And we're like, what you gon do?

Roosters?

Come on, I'm pulling my finger at you. I'll keep you know. He's just got out of control.

And I was brand new on SNL and I remember he loved it so much that he put his hand through the mirror and shit my hand and the place was shaking, and I was hot from all the apply. It was just really exciting moment for me because I'm just such a fan of his and I love that sketch. Any any of those ones where the place rocked, you know, very lucky to get those sketches.

But even the last year, it felt like on Sunday Night Live, everybody was intent on cracking you up, like they the goal was to make you not get through it.

It was painful, Dan, It was painful everybody because they knew I'm an easy laugh, you know, I just love I'm a fan of comedy, and it's very unprofessional to me. But Will Ferrell would We've been doing a sketch where we're in a hot tub together and him and Rachel Dratch were this creepy couple that would get in the hot tub and like at a hotel.

At a hotel, there were those creepy couple that would get.

And he would eat like a duck leg or something and he go like, how I And then time I talked, his hand would pinch me under the water.

Because he knew I would start laughing.

Oh, that's not in the script for him to do it. He just is pinching, Okay.

Yeah, And so he would do that.

Or Molly Shannon would do stuff to just she just knew, well look at me, just make me laugh. And Tina Fey would just and they would crack me up, and I'm like, and her ratio sounds and I would just get in trouble, and they didn't like it.

You know. I had one line in.

Cow Bell and Will Ferrell and Chris push each other and Will's wearing a shirt where his guts hanging out the bottom and his glasses fall off.

And he looked like an insane man.

And I had my one line and I flubbed it and then everyone's mad at me.

It's like they didn't put me in sketches. I got in trouble.

Is Jimmy fallon The Tonight Show coming up this Friday, eleven, thirty five pm Eastern on NBC. It's the big showdown that everybody's talking about. It's the Cardigan Classic with a DJ Collin and there's a little bit of everything in there, a little bit of everything.

It's really fun, but it's it's a good hour and it flies by quickly. It also repeats on Peacock the next day and then Golf Channel on Monday Monday Night.

Good to talk to you, Jimmy. Thanks for joining.

Us, but always good to talk to you.

Thank thank you.

I appreciate you having me on. Keep it up, keep up to good work.

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He's co host of Gojoe and Golick on DraftKings Network. His Mike Golick, former NFL defensive lineman, went it to Notre Dame is oo ooh, oh, my bad, seriously, my bad. Okay, let's just get it over with. Let's just get it over with. How painful was that watch for you with Notre Dame against Northern Illinois.

I was sitting right in the stands there watching that, and uh it was. And you know, in week two of the college season, there were a number of big teams playing smaller teams that pulled out, you know, close wins. So my thought the whole time there was just get the win. Just get the win. Just get the win. It's all that matters. They went up fourteen to thirteen in the second half. I thought, okay, maybe they'll put another field goal on him, another touchdown on them, and.

They'll win the game. And then.

Riley Leonard throws that interception that's returned thirty yards to the fifty yard line. A couple first downs later, they kicked the field goal, and unfortunately Notre Dame has done this before two years ago to Marshall certain Wiom and my son Mike and Jake were here as well, so it it was crushing. And I say this in all sincerity, congratulations in Northern Illinois. I mean they they outplayed Notre Dame. They out it wasn't fluky, it wasn't oh my god, all these turnovers. They outplayed Notre Dame in South Bend the first time they ever went there, and kudos to them, tip of the cap to them. Even Marcus Freeman said, hey, maybe we're basically reading the clippings, but coaching staff and players and they let one slip away. They won't let one slip away that they couldn't.

Yeah, but the good news is it's a twelve team playoff and you know your toughest game. I always say, all their toughest game is USC but then tell that to Notre Dame facing Northern Illinois, like, hey, week in and week out, you know, you just can't slip up. And they do this every year. It feels like there's that one slip up game where you go, what is going on here?

The problem with they should be able to absorb another loss and possibly make the twelve. But here's the situation. I think we'll only have two losses up to twelve, maybe a third depending on the season, but basically two losses and if Notre Dame. If Notre Dame wins out, they'll prop they'll they'll most likely be in if they were.

To lose another one.

You put that Northern Illinois loss up against somebody else with two losses and it's probably not going to be as bad a loss as Notre Dame was to Northern Illinois, So that could have them with two losses on the outside looking in, possibly.

Talking to Mike Golick. He is the co host of Gojo Golick on DraftKings Network and you can see it from eight am to ten am. Do players care about the uniform when they do like the Giants uniforms or the Steelers throwbacks or the Packers three Like the players care when they're putting these things on.

I think most don't. I know, I never did.

I think we are in an era of more style, where where players.

Have stylists to.

Match their clothes to go into walk into the game, you know, because they're on camera. So I do think players are more aware of style than they were years ago. But I think for the most part, once a game starts, they don't care. Ever, linemen are just trying to get air in their lungs, you know. Receivers are just trying to catch balls. DB's are trying to stop that. So I think once the game starts, No, they don't. For the most part, they don't care.

How closely are you watching the Deshaun Watson situation, that it's not about necessarily play on the field. Now you have this civil lawsuit that's been refiled, and could the Cleveland Browns get out from underneath this contract?

And actually Dan everything is about play on the field. Right when he signed with Cleveland, it was because he had a great year in Houston and then sat for games because he wanted to be traded, and he didn't have any criminal charges against him. They were all civil, and he settled with adding twenty three of the twenty four or twenty two of the twenty three, and the Browns and Haslam signed him because he played great in Houston. That's why they signed him and gave him that. Then everybody thought a ridiculous contract that was just just recently beaten by Dak Prescott and now the Browns they will look to try and get out of this contract because again of his quarterback play it being bad this time that they'll look for a clause or they have the clause or for a reason to get out of this deal now. So while it's horrendous of what went on off the field of which he was suspended eleven games, find five million dollars and we all know what he went through, but it's on the field Dan that controlled all of this, and fans hated it. Fans hated the fact that the Browns signed them. But then after a while, you're just going to root for your colors. You're going to root for your jersey and try and root for a win. But now that he's playing bad, it's like, hey, can we get rid of them fast enough?

Which NFL fan base should feel the worst today?

Probably Cincinnati though though Zach Taylor in weeks one and two in his time, I mean, Houston is one in ten. So that's a problem. That's a problem for the players standpoint of execute on the field and the coaches standpoint of not having them ready. But now New England, we know, even with Bill Belichick and girod Mayo, who was a linebacker coach under Bill, they're gonna have a tough defense.

But for their offense, and I know.

They didn't have T Higgins and I don't think they tried to run the ball enough in what was a one score game going into the fourth quarter. But they have perennially been bad the first two games. But to me, there was no excuse to put up the small amount of points that they did.

As a former player, the difference between being hurt and being injured is what.

It's a gray area, man, It's a gray area. Was a gray area to me because I was a tenth rounder who started maybe half my career and felt if I left the field, I may not get back on the field. So players are in different positions. For the most part, players are tough and we'll want to work through.

Now.

What has helped is I was pretty much get the one to make the decision on whether I wanted to play, whether I wanted to take the needle take the pill, of which I did many many times to play. Now, you know, you hear coaches say it's the doctor's decision. If the doctor says no, then it's no. We could talk our doctors into letting us play as long as it wasn't too detrimental or you know, blown acl or something like that. But we could talk the doctors into a shot or letting us play now you can't. Now it's a little more difficult to do that, and you'll kind of have your helmet taken away from you, which, in all honesty is a good thing.

What is that like? How long does it take you get the shot to then you feel the numbness or you don't feel anything.

Oh?

I mean there was a year, my year in Miami, I got the cartilage torn in my ribs, between my ribs in the in game one. I got shot up before the game and at halftime for most of the season, and it feels I mean, listen, you could hit me with a baseball bat and I wasn't gonna feel a thing. And I've had that shot up, my shoulders shot up, my heel shot up. I mean, I've had a lot of things. And I'm not saying this to say I was this tough guy. I'm saying this as this is what was done when I played. I mean, there was a needle going into somebody all the time. And people can think about it what they want to think about it. They said, well, didn't you think about what you were going to be like at fifty I said, I thought about playing on that Sunday And that was it again. Players are smarter tod and take care of their bodies better today. Don't get me wrong. It the shot though, worked. They numbed the pain. But man, when it wore off, whether it was on the plane ride home or in a home game, when I went home and went to bed, you definitely felt that that's when the pain pills kicked in, and that's when you know it could lead to opioid problems for players. It wasn't pretty, Dan, It wasn't a pretty way to go about your business.

Quarterback play in Week one, we're seeing touchdown passes down considerably.

Why, well, I think defenses are ahead of offenses. You're not playing your starters in preseason games as much, though. I get it to a point because practicing with a team for a couple of days before you play them in preseason I think is actually more important. But still it's not completely full go. It's not usually it's not tackling into the ground. You certainly can't hit the quarterback when you're practicing with another team, And in preseason starters don't play a lot. See Cincinnati and why they slow start one to ten in under Zach Taylor. In the first two weeks, and defenses are normally ahead of offenses, so I think that has a lot to do with it. I think we'll eventually go to an eighteen game schedule, will probably go down to two preseason games, so you'll get even less work by the starters, and the offense really needs to be in a timing rhythm. Defense needs to as well, but the offense with all the different parts, needs to be in sync, I think more than the defense, and they're just not getting the reps in preseason that they normally had gotten years ago.

The Commissioner has talked about the number of international games, and I was told by source that they're going to sell that package. The international games probably going to be sold separately. The question is how many countries do you think the NFL is going to try to play games in the near future.

As many dan as many as they can. I mean, they are trying so hard to globalize the game. I don't believe we will ever have a team overseas like Jacksonville in London, or let alone a division overseas.

I don't think that will ether ever happen.

But I think, and this isn't like baseball and hockey, when you and even football, where you have a lot of overseas players playing in our sport.

You don't have a lot of that in the NFL.

So the only way way the NFL gets global the globalization of it, is to go play on their turf in their territory. So they'll try and play everywhere. And you gotta be careful. I mean, you're talking ten hour flights, you're talking the grass is horrible. But the players are highly paid. Uh players, don't get me wrong, but they're still not the owners who are grabbing this money from from games overseas or out of the country and kind of conditions.

Be damned situation.

But can we give the fan too much football?

Well, we can't give the the international fan too much football because they don't see it that much.

But obviously us in the United States, can we can we give you too much? Can we be gluttonous that eventually you say enough, I'm backing away from the buffet?

No, No, I don't think so.

The only there hasn't been an actual schedule game after Christmas and Wednesday this year is a Tuesday. There's been a game on Tuesday because of a weather causing a game to you know, be postponed a couple of days, but that's good. Tuesday is going to be the only day an NFL game hasn't been scheduled.

You cannot have enough. I mean it is.

It is by far and away the most popular sport. I remember there were NBA analysts saying, oh, the football playing on Christmas isn't going to affect the NBA is still king on Christmas.

It's a joke. I mean, it's not even.

Close, and it rules the roost and I think college football quite honestly a second, but nothing will affect people wanting to watch the NFL A big reason you can gamble on it.

Do you remember a certain time one time when an offensive lineman pancaked you, like it stood out out of all the offensive linemen that you took on, where it was just like, damn, that was different.

Well, there were so many times. One time I played against the late great Bill Freelik, who I actually played against for years when he was at Pitt and I was at Notre Dame, and then we played against each other in the NFL.

Man he pancaked me. Well.

I actually hurt my knee on the play and went on ir for four weeks.

He just folded me backwards and.

I kind of bent back as I was trying to fight it on my knee. That because I was injured, was probably the one that I'll remember the most, but I'm not gonna lie. It happened a couple of times.

What was your super Bowl pick?

My super Bowl pick this year is Detroit Detroit over Kansas.

City, Okay, yeah, yeah, you know what. And I took the Jets because I thought did okay, yeah, I thought that Robert Salah either gets fired after week twelve or he's the coach of the year. I think the defense is really good. I think Rogers will ease into things. They got some playmakers there, and I thought, and maybe it's trying to get you know, clickbait. I could have taken Kansas City. I took Detroit as well, you know, because Kansas City is right in front of you, and sometimes what's in front of you, we don't want to take that because nobody's gonna notice if you say I'm taking Kansas City to win it all exactly right. But uh, I went kicking and screaming. I wanted to change my my pick to the Chiefs. When I'm like, nope, I'll stick with the Jets. I'm gonna have confidence in uh, you know, an angry Aaron Rodgers.

Well, I think Aaron and I think the russ will kick off a little bit because we're used to seeing Aaron was kind of Pat Mahomes before Pat Mahomes. Maybe Pat Mahomes is a little more magician like, but Aaron on the run, rolling right, rolling left, rolling dropping dimes was incredib in this first game. He didn't do that much. He just got rid of the ball. You know, he was almost truly like a pocket quarterback when he can be pretty dangerous outside the pocket. And I think he'll get to that. And I agree if they're going to go somewhere, they're going to be led by their defense. That's why it was a little disheartening to get run on the way that defense got run on, because they're breaking in a new old lineman and they really got Garrett Wilson and Breise Hall as your two main weapons. But I get you wanting to go out on a limb because our mutual friend Stu Gotts picked the Jets and Chicago in the Super Bowl, so he really really went out on a limb.

Yeah, great to talk to you my best of the family. Thanks for joining us.

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