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Before we get to our next guest, he is one of four wide receivers in the last fifty years to have the Triple Crown. Now that's he did it in two thousand and five. That means he led the NFL in catches, yards and touchdowns. So before we get to Steve Smith Senior, can you name the other ones? I'm gonna throw out? So there's four other guys who have won the Triple Crown of receiving in the last fifty years.

Before we get to our next guest, he is one of four wide receivers in the last fifty years to have the Triple Crown. Now that's he did it in two thousand and five. That means he led the NFL in catches, yards and touchdowns. So before we get to Steve Smith Senior, can you name the other ones? I'm gonna throw out? So there's four other guys who have won the Triple Crown of receiving in the last fifty years.

There's four, including Steve Smith.

There's four, including Steve Smith.

Oh okay, so ife to name three? Correct? So if I say Randy Moss, he did not. If I say Lance Allworth.

Oh okay, so ife to name three? Correct? So if I say Randy Moss, he did not. If I say Lance Allworth.

Yes, nineteen sixty six, so that's beyond the scope. Oh okay, the first one was it in our list? Here is nineteen ninety cal uh uh, Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice's okay, all right, I've heard of him. The other one was within the past four years, Tyreek Hill, Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup.

Yes, nineteen sixty six, so that's beyond the scope. Oh okay, the first one was it in our list? Here is nineteen ninety cal uh uh, Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice's okay, all right, I've heard of him. The other one was within the past four years, Tyreek Hill, Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup.

Oh, yeah, that's right. We did mention that.

Oh, yeah, that's right. We did mention that.

And then the other one. Here's the big hint. This guy would be in the Hall of Fame except for a neck injury. Sterling, Shark Sterling, Sharpest correct Sling.

And then the other one. Here's the big hint. This guy would be in the Hall of Fame except for a neck injury. Sterling, Shark Sterling, Sharpest correct Sling.

Sure make way for Steve Smith's senior NFL network analysts. That's a pretty good company there, Steve, What do you remember about that two thousand and five season?

Sure make way for Steve Smith's senior NFL network analysts. That's a pretty good company there, Steve, What do you remember about that two thousand and five season?

Well, well, first, good morning. Uh, it was a long time ago. I think I had hair back then, so that's that's one of the biggest things I remember.

Well, well, first, good morning. Uh, it was a long time ago. I think I had hair back then, so that's that's one of the biggest things I remember.

But you helped Cam. That was Cam's rookie year.

But you helped Cam. That was Cam's rookie year.

Wasn't, no, sir, No, Cam was I think in middle school at that time.

Wasn't, no, sir, No, Cam was I think in middle school at that time.

Okay, no, this was Jake de Low. Oh okay, but you know, you look at that, why haven't we had more receivers win the triple crown.

Okay, no, this was Jake de Low. Oh okay, but you know, you look at that, why haven't we had more receivers win the triple crown.

I mean, it's a tough it's a tough deal to do. To leak in all the categories, it's very rare. I'm not gonna sit here into my own horn. But you know, everything has to lie. You got to have the right combination of teams playing the right opponents. Offense got to be flowing, good pass game, good run game. You know, kind of just structurally things have to fall in place.

I mean, it's a tough it's a tough deal to do. To leak in all the categories, it's very rare. I'm not gonna sit here into my own horn. But you know, everything has to lie. You got to have the right combination of teams playing the right opponents. Offense got to be flowing, good pass game, good run game. You know, kind of just structurally things have to fall in place.

I had a couple of topics to get to. Two of going on the ir as opposed to concussion protocol. What does that mean to you? When you see him go on the IR So he's gone for at least four weeks.

I had a couple of topics to get to. Two of going on the ir as opposed to concussion protocol. What does that mean to you? When you see him go on the IR So he's gone for at least four weeks.

It gives an opportunity where you could take your time and figure out what you need to do, sort out some kind of plan. Also like the fact that on those four weeks it's not like he has to play, so that means he gets to take his time and talk to his doctors. You know, going through decision making like this, it's an emotional roller coaster. There's going to be some highs, are going to be most likely more lows, and a lot of conversations that he needs to have and wrestle with and grieve through and process. And I believe it at least gives him the starting point not to be pressured in making any kind of decision tomorrow, because the league is about decisions and doing things sometimes based off perspective, not based off reality. Sooner than later.

It gives an opportunity where you could take your time and figure out what you need to do, sort out some kind of plan. Also like the fact that on those four weeks it's not like he has to play, so that means he gets to take his time and talk to his doctors. You know, going through decision making like this, it's an emotional roller coaster. There's going to be some highs, are going to be most likely more lows, and a lot of conversations that he needs to have and wrestle with and grieve through and process. And I believe it at least gives him the starting point not to be pressured in making any kind of decision tomorrow, because the league is about decisions and doing things sometimes based off perspective, not based off reality. Sooner than later.

Yeah, it just concerned me that it was four weeks as opposed to week by week that And I don't know if you agree if you get a concussion you're more susceptible to getting another concussion.

Yeah, it just concerned me that it was four weeks as opposed to week by week that And I don't know if you agree if you get a concussion you're more susceptible to getting another concussion.

I think everybody's different. I've played with some guys who's had multiple concussions. I played with guys who like for myself, I've only had one concussion in my career. However, it took me about three weeks to really just come out of it. It was a pretty bad a concussion. It was an accident. I didn't get a concussion tackled. I got a concussion. Actually, I was getting up and someone I didn't know and someone at the back of my head. I hit their knee. Like they didn't hit me. I hit them obviously because I don't really have even though my kids believe it, I don't have eyes behind the back of my head. And I hit it right there in the sweet spot, and they knew something was wrong because I was in a huddle. We said break and they said. Everybody broke out of the huddle, but me, I was still there. So you know, everybody's different. So, I mean, I played sixteen years one concussion. There's guys who've played less than that and had multiple concussions. You know, everybody's built differently. So to be able to say that we know how everyone handles it, and all of these armchair doctors who have their personal opinion, I think, you know, I know where in this age where everybody's opinion matters. So I'm throwing mine out there, and I think we all should sit back and allow to it to make his own decision on his career and allow him to deal with what he wants to deal with, versus us giving our opinion on something that unfortunately, Let's be honest, if you're not our circus, not our monkey, so why do we have to whilere we given our input on something that really we don't have a hand head.

I think everybody's different. I've played with some guys who's had multiple concussions. I played with guys who like for myself, I've only had one concussion in my career. However, it took me about three weeks to really just come out of it. It was a pretty bad a concussion. It was an accident. I didn't get a concussion tackled. I got a concussion. Actually, I was getting up and someone I didn't know and someone at the back of my head. I hit their knee. Like they didn't hit me. I hit them obviously because I don't really have even though my kids believe it, I don't have eyes behind the back of my head. And I hit it right there in the sweet spot, and they knew something was wrong because I was in a huddle. We said break and they said. Everybody broke out of the huddle, but me, I was still there. So you know, everybody's different. So, I mean, I played sixteen years one concussion. There's guys who've played less than that and had multiple concussions. You know, everybody's built differently. So to be able to say that we know how everyone handles it, and all of these armchair doctors who have their personal opinion, I think, you know, I know where in this age where everybody's opinion matters. So I'm throwing mine out there, and I think we all should sit back and allow to it to make his own decision on his career and allow him to deal with what he wants to deal with, versus us giving our opinion on something that unfortunately, Let's be honest, if you're not our circus, not our monkey, so why do we have to whilere we given our input on something that really we don't have a hand head.

We're talking to Steve Smith, Senior, former NFL Pro Bowl wide receiver working for the NFL Network. If you were a player on the Carolina Panthers and they made the decision to bench Bryce Young, how would you react?

We're talking to Steve Smith, Senior, former NFL Pro Bowl wide receiver working for the NFL Network. If you were a player on the Carolina Panthers and they made the decision to bench Bryce Young, how would you react?

I mean, he's got a roll with the next guy. People don't want to hear that, but that's how it is. If Bryce got hurt, we'll be saying the same thing. Who's the next guy up? Next man up? Is there? For whatever reason, we feel like that this situation is now all of a sudden that Bryce is done. I'm hearing everybody talk about he should be done. Trade him. I think the fact that they sat him down, I think that's a good thing. And the reason why I believe that's a good thing is because this if you see a young man sitting there and you throw him in a swimming pool and you see he's drowning a little bit, you don't remove him from the swimming pool and throw him in the ocean and say, okay, with the bigger tides. He should be okay. Because he was drafted first overall, he should he should be fine, or hey, get rid of him. How about do what they're doing is allow him to sit back, evaluate and then maybe train them and gradually put them back in there when he can also learn the game. He was a great processor in college. That's what got him drafted. That doesn't mean what you did in college you're gonna do that in the NFL, because that's the that's the level up that's called advancing. That's why it's professionals and amateurs or collegiate. I know NIL makes people believe they're professionals, but guess what, there are eighty wide receivers next years and that are trying to come out. In next year's draft, there were I believe twenty seven wide receivers drafted. I'm no mathematician, but guess what, not, everybody's gonna make it.

I mean, he's got a roll with the next guy. People don't want to hear that, but that's how it is. If Bryce got hurt, we'll be saying the same thing. Who's the next guy up? Next man up? Is there? For whatever reason, we feel like that this situation is now all of a sudden that Bryce is done. I'm hearing everybody talk about he should be done. Trade him. I think the fact that they sat him down, I think that's a good thing. And the reason why I believe that's a good thing is because this if you see a young man sitting there and you throw him in a swimming pool and you see he's drowning a little bit, you don't remove him from the swimming pool and throw him in the ocean and say, okay, with the bigger tides. He should be okay. Because he was drafted first overall, he should he should be fine, or hey, get rid of him. How about do what they're doing is allow him to sit back, evaluate and then maybe train them and gradually put them back in there when he can also learn the game. He was a great processor in college. That's what got him drafted. That doesn't mean what you did in college you're gonna do that in the NFL, because that's the that's the level up that's called advancing. That's why it's professionals and amateurs or collegiate. I know NIL makes people believe they're professionals, but guess what, there are eighty wide receivers next years and that are trying to come out. In next year's draft, there were I believe twenty seven wide receivers drafted. I'm no mathematician, but guess what, not, everybody's gonna make it.

I'm fine with them benching him, and even using the word benching sounds rough. I think they're just replacing him, putting Andy Dilton in there, and it's hard for him. You get into bad habits and it feels like he's a little you know, he wants to make a quick decision. He doesn't let a play kind of unfold. I mean, there's a there's a lot of bad things that can happen, and I think sitting down for a little bit, maybe he doesn't play for them, But I would give I hope he gets another chance this season.

I'm fine with them benching him, and even using the word benching sounds rough. I think they're just replacing him, putting Andy Dilton in there, and it's hard for him. You get into bad habits and it feels like he's a little you know, he wants to make a quick decision. He doesn't let a play kind of unfold. I mean, there's a there's a lot of bad things that can happen, and I think sitting down for a little bit, maybe he doesn't play for them, But I would give I hope he gets another chance this season.

I agree, I think he's I don't know if given him another chance this season only because if Andy Dalton does well and you've brought him in to help him, what if having a successful season or seeing someone else do it not. Ever, some people learn differently visual aids, some people learn by example, some people learn by watching other people do it. So sitting him down and letting him ride out the season and learning and now he doesn't have the pressure on him, maybe he'll learn some things, maybe he'll see the game from a different perspective, and maybe you won't. But I'm pretty sure it will because because when you think about it, this is probably the first time he's looked at the game from this position, which is the sideline with no injury. That's not a bad thing. Adversity is about dealing with dealing with some things that you don't see. And that's what makes football players athletes so much. So much we're intriguing because we can take a negative and tournament turn it into a positive. If we're going on a bench and say he's he bryce young, can never recover. Does that mean some of these coaches who have been given a head coaching job maybe too early or or a position too early in their career, does that mean that they never should get a job there? You know this answer, No, that doesn't happen, So why does it happen with players? But yet we could give a guy a job in a in the NFL or NBA or too early, be terrible, god.

I agree, I think he's I don't know if given him another chance this season only because if Andy Dalton does well and you've brought him in to help him, what if having a successful season or seeing someone else do it not. Ever, some people learn differently visual aids, some people learn by example, some people learn by watching other people do it. So sitting him down and letting him ride out the season and learning and now he doesn't have the pressure on him, maybe he'll learn some things, maybe he'll see the game from a different perspective, and maybe you won't. But I'm pretty sure it will because because when you think about it, this is probably the first time he's looked at the game from this position, which is the sideline with no injury. That's not a bad thing. Adversity is about dealing with dealing with some things that you don't see. And that's what makes football players athletes so much. So much we're intriguing because we can take a negative and tournament turn it into a positive. If we're going on a bench and say he's he bryce young, can never recover. Does that mean some of these coaches who have been given a head coaching job maybe too early or or a position too early in their career, does that mean that they never should get a job there? You know this answer, No, that doesn't happen, So why does it happen with players? But yet we could give a guy a job in a in the NFL or NBA or too early, be terrible, god.

Awful, and then a couple of months later he's at another place worse, and then it takes them three or four times to realize maybe he's just a coordinator, not a head coach.

Awful, and then a couple of months later he's at another place worse, and then it takes them three or four times to realize maybe he's just a coordinator, not a head coach.

That's just me.

That's just me.

Would you stick with justin fields in Pittsburgh.

Would you stick with justin fields in Pittsburgh.

Well, yeah, I don't know why that. Yes, I would stick with Justin Fields. He's he's winning games for you. Why change it because you have a guy that you brought in as a vetter. This isn't about who's the best trend or personality. This is about who can do the best job to help you win.

Well, yeah, I don't know why that. Yes, I would stick with Justin Fields. He's he's winning games for you. Why change it because you have a guy that you brought in as a vetter. This isn't about who's the best trend or personality. This is about who can do the best job to help you win.

I'm going to make sure I got the quote correct that you said Russell Wilson was kind of like the guy who goes out for cigarettes and never never comes back.

I'm going to make sure I got the quote correct that you said Russell Wilson was kind of like the guy who goes out for cigarettes and never never comes back.

I said, just I said, Russell Wilson's game that we known him to be in Seattle. Yeah, went out for cigarettes and has not come back. He was he there in Denver? Was he a Russell Wilson scrambling around and being Russell Dazzel in Denver?

I said, just I said, Russell Wilson's game that we known him to be in Seattle. Yeah, went out for cigarettes and has not come back. He was he there in Denver? Was he a Russell Wilson scrambling around and being Russell Dazzel in Denver?

Is he still out for cigarettes in Pittsburgh?

Is he still out for cigarettes in Pittsburgh?

Bro out for cigarettes? Man, he ain't there? Where did it go, Steve?

Bro out for cigarettes? Man, he ain't there? Where did it go, Steve?

Where did it go?

Where did it go?

I don't know. That's why when you go out for cigarettes, get their new porchs, bro They'll never come back. So that's just the whole point.

I don't know. That's why when you go out for cigarettes, get their new porchs, bro They'll never come back. So that's just the whole point.

So you would stick with Justin Fields, Yeah, definitely, you know that answer. Yeah, Well, sometimes they just kind of ask I know, you do.

So you would stick with Justin Fields, Yeah, definitely, you know that answer. Yeah, Well, sometimes they just kind of ask I know, you do.

You're great at that. Man.

You're great at that. Man.

You got a backdrop here. It looks like you're joining is from heaven.

You got a backdrop here. It looks like you're joining is from heaven.

Yeah, you know, it's pretty dreary here in Carolina. It's raining, So you know what I want to be sunshine and rainbows and smiles and be happy. Man. You know, you know I played with this attitude and this persona man, and sometimes you just gotta wake up and say, you know what, it's good to be allied.

Yeah, you know, it's pretty dreary here in Carolina. It's raining, So you know what I want to be sunshine and rainbows and smiles and be happy. Man. You know, you know I played with this attitude and this persona man, and sometimes you just gotta wake up and say, you know what, it's good to be allied.

Bro.

Bro.

There's some people that didn't wake up. There's some people that's going through some worse circumstances. I get to talk about football, a game that I love playing. I get to you know, I do a little golf sometimes here and there and talk on my podcast eighty nine. So look, I'm just hanging out man and enjoying life and loving life, right, bro.

There's some people that didn't wake up. There's some people that's going through some worse circumstances. I get to talk about football, a game that I love playing. I get to you know, I do a little golf sometimes here and there and talk on my podcast eighty nine. So look, I'm just hanging out man and enjoying life and loving life, right, bro.

But you played with a chip on your shoulder. Can you get rid of the chip on your shoulder after you're done playing?

But you played with a chip on your shoulder. Can you get rid of the chip on your shoulder after you're done playing?

Absolutely?

Absolutely?

You know?

You know?

It called is called golf, It's called iron out. I sit there and uh play play golf and look at it and and and uh. I get on the course, I'm feeling good, look fresh, look dapper, and get out there first first hole. Uh, mat, I'll get a par may even get a birdie second hole. I'm over here looking for my ball out in the woods. What you're gonna do? Get mad? You just you just gotta take it for what it is man, And so that's what I'm trying to do and enjoin. I'm forty five years old. Uh hell, I gotta I gotta slow down and enjoy life at some point before life is no more.

It called is called golf, It's called iron out. I sit there and uh play play golf and look at it and and and uh. I get on the course, I'm feeling good, look fresh, look dapper, and get out there first first hole. Uh, mat, I'll get a par may even get a birdie second hole. I'm over here looking for my ball out in the woods. What you're gonna do? Get mad? You just you just gotta take it for what it is man, And so that's what I'm trying to do and enjoin. I'm forty five years old. Uh hell, I gotta I gotta slow down and enjoy life at some point before life is no more.

Yes, yes, yeah, we all do. But we tell us, we tell ourselves that, but that doesn't mean we do it.

Yes, yes, yeah, we all do. But we tell us, we tell ourselves that, but that doesn't mean we do it.

Yeah, Well, you just gotta hang out with me a little bit more and see you you see that, you'll see the change if you don't believe it. Yeah, I've heard worse from worse better people, so I'll be okay.

Yeah, Well, you just gotta hang out with me a little bit more and see you you see that, you'll see the change if you don't believe it. Yeah, I've heard worse from worse better people, so I'll be okay.

Better people than me.

Better people than me.

Yeah, like my wife.

Yeah, like my wife.

Yeah, it's fair.

Yeah, it's fair.

I appreciate that.

I appreciate that.

That's a veteran move by you. You don't have any more beefs with players, Like if you see a player, is there still a beef with somebody that you played against?

That's a veteran move by you. You don't have any more beefs with players, Like if you see a player, is there still a beef with somebody that you played against?

No?

No?

Not really. I saw I've run into guys all the time.

Not really. I saw I've run into guys all the time.

Well, Terrell Buckley, if you saw Terrell Buckley.

Well, Terrell Buckley, if you saw Terrell Buckley.

Yeah, I think we're cool unless he has a problem with me. I don't have a problem with him.

Yeah, I think we're cool unless he has a problem with me. I don't have a problem with him.

Wait, didn't you have the super Bowl moment? Didn't you have a he spit on you?

Wait, didn't you have the super Bowl moment? Didn't you have a he spit on you?

Yeah? But I can't sit around it. I can't sit around then.

Yeah? But I can't sit around it. I can't sit around then.

But if him though, Steve, like.

But if him though, Steve, like.

To be honest, dare I don't even know where I would see him. He and I would run into each other. But if we did, Hey, what's how you doing? Just hand looking man in the eye and keep it moving, bro, I don't.

To be honest, dare I don't even know where I would see him. He and I would run into each other. But if we did, Hey, what's how you doing? Just hand looking man in the eye and keep it moving, bro, I don't.

You know?

You know?

Okay, just in case, you know, you may see him at a super Bowl or something.

Okay, just in case, you know, you may see him at a super Bowl or something.

If that is the case, I'm gonna I don't have a really good I don't really have time for that.

If that is the case, I'm gonna I don't have a really good I don't really have time for that.

Man.

Man.

Oh well, thanks for joining us as always, and uh appreciate you. Yeah, enjoy your golf game?

Oh well, thanks for joining us as always, and uh appreciate you. Yeah, enjoy your golf game?

Oh will I can't today? Is raining?

Oh will I can't today? Is raining?

Yeah? My best of the wife too? Who's better than me?

Yeah? My best of the wife too? Who's better than me?

Should be?

Should be?

Should be? Not always though?

Should be? Not always though?

Always?

Always?

Okay, of course always.

Okay, of course always.

I bet she was born.

I bet she was born.

Thank you, Steve, No problem, bro, that's Steve Smith, Senior NFL Network analyst.

Thank you, Steve, No problem, bro, that's Steve Smith, Senior NFL Network analyst.

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Oh my god, it is uncomfortable. Even eleven years later. Matt Harvey then with the Mets, so here he is a young star in New York and looking at Tommy John's surgery. He had talked about that the day before. We have him on the day after, and he just wants to talk about Qualcomm and he didn't understand the kind of the quid pro quo is, I'll have you on, you can get your sponsorship plug, but I get to ask you some questions. It happens all the time on the show. And we start out I think it's okay, but he's sort of dancing with me a little bit. He doesn't want to say too much about his shoulder and surgery or Tommy John surgery, whatever it was, And all of a sudden, well this is how it sounded. And it doesn't get any easier for me to listen to this or look at it. When you hear Tommy John surgery, what does that mean to you? As a picture, you know, I.

Oh my god, it is uncomfortable. Even eleven years later. Matt Harvey then with the Mets, so here he is a young star in New York and looking at Tommy John's surgery. He had talked about that the day before. We have him on the day after, and he just wants to talk about Qualcomm and he didn't understand the kind of the quid pro quo is, I'll have you on, you can get your sponsorship plug, but I get to ask you some questions. It happens all the time on the show. And we start out I think it's okay, but he's sort of dancing with me a little bit. He doesn't want to say too much about his shoulder and surgery or Tommy John surgery, whatever it was, And all of a sudden, well this is how it sounded. And it doesn't get any easier for me to listen to this or look at it. When you hear Tommy John surgery, what does that mean to you? As a picture, you know, I.

Mean it's uh, it's something that obviously everybody you know knows about. It's it's so common, but you know, it's it's.

Mean it's uh, it's something that obviously everybody you know knows about. It's it's so common, but you know, it's it's.

Something you never you never know And is it scary when you hear that that you know, that possibility of you're deciding not to do it? How scary is it?

Something you never you never know And is it scary when you hear that that you know, that possibility of you're deciding not to do it? How scary is it?

You know? It's uh, it's it's it's kind of where I mean, every picture can can you know, relate to to what's going on? But you know, I think I didn't. I did all those answers yesterday and and you know, maybe at the appropriate time we can we can talk a little bit more about that. But obviously, uh, you know, today is about call Comb.

You know? It's uh, it's it's it's kind of where I mean, every picture can can you know, relate to to what's going on? But you know, I think I didn't. I did all those answers yesterday and and you know, maybe at the appropriate time we can we can talk a little bit more about that. But obviously, uh, you know, today is about call Comb.

You don't want to talk about your you know, this whole rehab and Tommy John, Well, I.

You don't want to talk about your you know, this whole rehab and Tommy John, Well, I.

Will, I mean, I we can set up another call if you'd like too about that subject. But uh, you know, today obviously today we're honoring and supporting Callcomm.

Will, I mean, I we can set up another call if you'd like too about that subject. But uh, you know, today obviously today we're honoring and supporting Callcomm.

Well, okay, I'll let you get your pitch and uh tell us about qualcomm.

Well, okay, I'll let you get your pitch and uh tell us about qualcomm.

Uh then Matt, Well, you know obviously we uh you know, average average person uses their phone, you know, over one hundred, one hundred times per day, and you know sometimes.

Uh then Matt, Well, you know obviously we uh you know, average average person uses their phone, you know, over one hundred, one hundred times per day, and you know sometimes.

This went on for another ninety seconds. You can just leave it underneath me, Marvin.

This went on for another ninety seconds. You can just leave it underneath me, Marvin.

Nice to have a way to connect, and.

Nice to have a way to connect, and.

Like I really cared about QUALCOMMB. We didn't even know what qualcomm was. You know.

Like I really cared about QUALCOMMB. We didn't even know what qualcomm was. You know.

Baseball is is, you know, obviously huge and stadiums are sold out everywhere and people are.

Baseball is is, you know, obviously huge and stadiums are sold out everywhere and people are.

When he says, hey, we could talk about this at another time, I my head pops up and I stare right at Fritzy, like, how did we get into this?

When he says, hey, we could talk about this at another time, I my head pops up and I stare right at Fritzy, like, how did we get into this?

Pretty much everybody tweeting and using.

Pretty much everybody tweeting and using.

Face but you know, Todd had no idea bring bring Matt Harvey up again. And I see just going on fantastic. Yeah, it's unlimited and.

Face but you know, Todd had no idea bring bring Matt Harvey up again. And I see just going on fantastic. Yeah, it's unlimited and.

Food, participating in game promotions, you know, and support, yeah, you know, information about the game. You know that way you don't have to buy a booklet of all the rock.

Food, participating in game promotions, you know, and support, yeah, you know, information about the game. You know that way you don't have to buy a booklet of all the rock.

Don't want a booklet obviously.

Don't want a booklet obviously.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So he just kept going, and then I knew the interview was over. You can lower it now, Marvin. Your head snaps up and he says, well, I mean, I'm happy to set up another an interview at another time where we can talk about that. And your head snaps up and you look right over it. I looked at Todd's so funny, And all I know is that when that interview ended, we heard from somebody, a PR person or an agent, said hey, we'll set up something. Sorry about that. He nobody told him what he's supposed to do. You can get your plug for Qualcomm. I want to talk to you about Tommy John surgery. And I knew he wasn't a good interview, but he became kind of an interesting interview because a legendary interview. By the way he answered the question honored Qualcomb very well.

So he just kept going, and then I knew the interview was over. You can lower it now, Marvin. Your head snaps up and he says, well, I mean, I'm happy to set up another an interview at another time where we can talk about that. And your head snaps up and you look right over it. I looked at Todd's so funny, And all I know is that when that interview ended, we heard from somebody, a PR person or an agent, said hey, we'll set up something. Sorry about that. He nobody told him what he's supposed to do. You can get your plug for Qualcomm. I want to talk to you about Tommy John surgery. And I knew he wasn't a good interview, but he became kind of an interesting interview because a legendary interview. By the way he answered the question honored Qualcomb very well.

His credit.

His credit.

I will I will say that that's what he was doing, and he is. He did a great job with that. Oh it's painful, so painful, Yes, tom But.

I will I will say that that's what he was doing, and he is. He did a great job with that. Oh it's painful, so painful, Yes, tom But.

When you looked at me like that, I really hope to this day they didn't think per second I had some kind of agreement them.

When you looked at me like that, I really hope to this day they didn't think per second I had some kind of agreement them.

Yeah, just we'll just talk about QUALKMB.

Yeah, just we'll just talk about QUALKMB.

You don't have to ask him any questions about baseball, the Mets, or surgery.

You don't have to ask him any questions about baseball, the Mets, or surgery.

I know that it was.

I know that it was.

Insane, No, I know, you would you assume that they know like Kyler Murray did this. Kyler Murray got on and he didn't say anything, And then I said, well, tell me about gator and then he told me about gatorade, and then that was it. He didn't want to answer anything, at least tell us.

Insane, No, I know, you would you assume that they know like Kyler Murray did this. Kyler Murray got on and he didn't say anything, And then I said, well, tell me about gator and then he told me about gatorade, and then that was it. He didn't want to answer anything, at least tell us.

An advance, you know, sometimes a certain topic that are up the limits. And then we decided as a group, then is it worth having that person on if we can't ask a B or C.

An advance, you know, sometimes a certain topic that are up the limits. And then we decided as a group, then is it worth having that person on if we can't ask a B or C.

I wouldn't have had either on. But they certainly gave us great content. That Seatan's Kyler Murray precision. That's basically what I was getting out of him. It was essentially you were interviewing Beavis and butt Head.

I wouldn't have had either on. But they certainly gave us great content. That Seatan's Kyler Murray precision. That's basically what I was getting out of him. It was essentially you were interviewing Beavis and butt Head.

So the fallout from that, like you said, there was a flurry of emails and apologies and incredulous responses from PR people over the next several hours. It was decided that Matt Harvey would call back in the next day. They reached out, got a hold of Matt that evening, and the next day he reappeared on our show and said he was going through a lot, he didn't know what to talk about, whatnot, and it went pretty.

So the fallout from that, like you said, there was a flurry of emails and apologies and incredulous responses from PR people over the next several hours. It was decided that Matt Harvey would call back in the next day. They reached out, got a hold of Matt that evening, and the next day he reappeared on our show and said he was going through a lot, he didn't know what to talk about, whatnot, and it went pretty.

Well the next day. How could he possibly think correct, Yes, how could he possibly think that we were here just to talk about you know what, casting you know what I've been really thinking about a lot. Is Qualcomm? Who can we get on? Hey, Matt Harvey would be the guy to have on. Uh hey, do you want to talk to him about his elbow?

Well the next day. How could he possibly think correct, Yes, how could he possibly think that we were here just to talk about you know what, casting you know what I've been really thinking about a lot. Is Qualcomm? Who can we get on? Hey, Matt Harvey would be the guy to have on. Uh hey, do you want to talk to him about his elbow?

No?

No?

No, no, I'm gonna talk about Qualcomm? Are you kidding me? Let's talk about that device how it helps you. Oh my god, I just it was one of those where you go, wait, he's blowing me off talking about his his injury. I mean I already answered all those questions yesterday. Yesterday, you are in New York. You're a star of the Mets, and you don't know how to do an interview where you get to get your plug in and answer four questions and then that's it. Oh my god, he just is he still talking?

No, no, I'm gonna talk about Qualcomm? Are you kidding me? Let's talk about that device how it helps you. Oh my god, I just it was one of those where you go, wait, he's blowing me off talking about his his injury. I mean I already answered all those questions yesterday. Yesterday, you are in New York. You're a star of the Mets, and you don't know how to do an interview where you get to get your plug in and answer four questions and then that's it. Oh my god, he just is he still talking?

Marvin?

Marvin?

Actually he just stopped me. He did, and I let him get his plug. He that's one of the longer plugs ever in his It did just keeps going on it and he had no sensib awareness there. He's like, and I could have said, and I swear to god, I almost did this. Matt, tell me more about Qualcomm, because I like, I was gonna make a total farce out of this.

Actually he just stopped me. He did, and I let him get his plug. He that's one of the longer plugs ever in his It did just keeps going on it and he had no sensib awareness there. He's like, and I could have said, and I swear to god, I almost did this. Matt, tell me more about Qualcomm, because I like, I was gonna make a total farce out of this.

Is sure a website we can go?

Is sure a website we can go?

Yeah? Yes, Now, he did call in in yes the day after that, and then we kind of moved I didn't want to have Matt Harvey on again.

Yeah? Yes, Now, he did call in in yes the day after that, and then we kind of moved I didn't want to have Matt Harvey on again.

That was even a little bit more awkward, Uh, going back and forth with the PR people that evening we agreed upon it, and then you go, nah, you said nah.

That was even a little bit more awkward, Uh, going back and forth with the PR people that evening we agreed upon it, and then you go, nah, you said nah.

I didn't want him. I didn't want him on. I had no interest. But then the Dan answer, They're always like no, no, no, no, we should have on.

I didn't want him. I didn't want him on. I had no interest. But then the Dan answer, They're always like no, no, no, no, we should have on.

You know, so crushed nationally as bad as it was, it was like he really and rightfully so he was like ripped and crossed the nation everywhere, headline everywhere.

You know, so crushed nationally as bad as it was, it was like he really and rightfully so he was like ripped and crossed the nation everywhere, headline everywhere.

But I don't know who it was. Somebody was interviewing him after me, and uh, like they didn't bring it up that this just happened, but it just somebody else another radio show had him on and treated it like it was, Hey, Matt, how are you? How's the Tommy John surgery? And he's answering these questions. You'd never know that, you know, minutes earlier, he says, I'm only here to talk about qualcomm He's he's got legendary status with this show, and he can have that provided he never comes on the show again. Yeah, although Paula goes, no, we would have him back. I go no, one on one man. Okay, why didn't you guys book Matt Harvey for today?

But I don't know who it was. Somebody was interviewing him after me, and uh, like they didn't bring it up that this just happened, but it just somebody else another radio show had him on and treated it like it was, Hey, Matt, how are you? How's the Tommy John surgery? And he's answering these questions. You'd never know that, you know, minutes earlier, he says, I'm only here to talk about qualcomm He's he's got legendary status with this show, and he can have that provided he never comes on the show again. Yeah, although Paula goes, no, we would have him back. I go no, one on one man. Okay, why didn't you guys book Matt Harvey for today?

Well I thought about booking him when his career ended, I think three years ago, but it didn't go over well in the room because.

Well I thought about booking him when his career ended, I think three years ago, but it didn't go over well in the room because.

Well, no, but we're talking about today. If you would have him on again, then you would have him on today. Things haven't gone well for Matt Harvey. No, they haven't the last two to five years. Yes, two to five is a funny line. By the way, Wow, he'd prefer to talk about Qualcom if I'm I believe he would, and you know his surgery. Yeah, yes, I think things have not gone well for Matt. Okay, are you up analyst next? Which actually makes the Qualcom interview. It all makes a lot more sense to know what he was doing while he was with the Mets, and then to me that much of an idiot. You can google me. Get it now, you can google it. I forgot about Kyler Murray's b kirkte cousins on loan from the Falcons coming up.

Well, no, but we're talking about today. If you would have him on again, then you would have him on today. Things haven't gone well for Matt Harvey. No, they haven't the last two to five years. Yes, two to five is a funny line. By the way, Wow, he'd prefer to talk about Qualcom if I'm I believe he would, and you know his surgery. Yeah, yes, I think things have not gone well for Matt. Okay, are you up analyst next? Which actually makes the Qualcom interview. It all makes a lot more sense to know what he was doing while he was with the Mets, and then to me that much of an idiot. You can google me. Get it now, you can google it. I forgot about Kyler Murray's b kirkte cousins on loan from the Falcons coming up.

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It's a relationship that goes back I think thirteen years. He's Kirk Cousins, he Falcons quarterback, four time Pro bowler and fresh off the win Monday night against the Eagles, back on the program. How you doing I'm doing well, Dan.

It's a relationship that goes back I think thirteen years. He's Kirk Cousins, he Falcons quarterback, four time Pro bowler and fresh off the win Monday night against the Eagles, back on the program. How you doing I'm doing well, Dan.

I'm also a big fan of a Mercedes Benz now that I moved to Atlanta driving Mercedes Benz. But I'm here on this interview for one reason and one reason only, and that's to talk about another brand that I have a great respect for and want to honor, and that's Qualcomm, Oh, my conductor software and telecommunications company that really just inspired me to on this interview today.

I'm also a big fan of a Mercedes Benz now that I moved to Atlanta driving Mercedes Benz. But I'm here on this interview for one reason and one reason only, and that's to talk about another brand that I have a great respect for and want to honor, and that's Qualcomm, Oh, my conductor software and telecommunications company that really just inspired me to on this interview today.

Thank you. I hope you'll allow me to indulge in you and some other questions about like the win against the Eagles. But if you want to get around talking about Qualcom, we'll get to that pitch coming up.

Thank you. I hope you'll allow me to indulge in you and some other questions about like the win against the Eagles. But if you want to get around talking about Qualcom, we'll get to that pitch coming up.

Unlike Matt Harvey, I will allow you to talk football, okay, but Qualcomm does mean a great deal to me as.

Unlike Matt Harvey, I will allow you to talk football, okay, but Qualcomm does mean a great deal to me as.

It does Matt.

It does Matt.

All right, last Drive by Philly. You're on the sidelines. What do you think is going to happen. How's that going to play out?

All right, last Drive by Philly. You're on the sidelines. What do you think is going to happen. How's that going to play out?

You know what?

You know what?

Dan?

Dan?

The final drive of the game. I've got some scars in my football career where I thought we had won the game and then it didn't end up the way I had hoped. So I get a little skeptical when I'm standing there watching, but you also believe, you know, we can do this. And all the Eagles needed was a field goal. So I was just standing and watching, and our defense made a great play. Jesse Bates was instinct, Fule got the interception and at that point just needed to take a knee.

The final drive of the game. I've got some scars in my football career where I thought we had won the game and then it didn't end up the way I had hoped. So I get a little skeptical when I'm standing there watching, but you also believe, you know, we can do this. And all the Eagles needed was a field goal. So I was just standing and watching, and our defense made a great play. Jesse Bates was instinct, Fule got the interception and at that point just needed to take a knee.

But when you see them passing, because on the Manning cast you had Peyton Eli and Matt Ryan saying the only way the Falcons can get the ball back is if the Eagles put the ball in the air. You see the pass and then what are you thinking when Saquon drops that?

But when you see them passing, because on the Manning cast you had Peyton Eli and Matt Ryan saying the only way the Falcons can get the ball back is if the Eagles put the ball in the air. You see the pass and then what are you thinking when Saquon drops that?

Yeah, I think that's what's kind of so fun about pro football is the strategy and the different options you have there. I had heard an argument for you do the the sneak that they've made famous on third down and see if you can get it to a fourth and one. And then because that play is seemingly so unstoppable. Just do it again on fourth down and believe that you're going to get it again. So there's an argument for just doing that sneak all the way down the field. But the play was a good play in the sense that he he he is opening the flat and it's a safe throw, and your odds are he's gonna catch it and potentially convert, and and you can ice the game. So you know, when you don't know the future, you don't know how it's gonna play out, all you can do is is make your best call that you believe in and and let it go from there.

Yeah, I think that's what's kind of so fun about pro football is the strategy and the different options you have there. I had heard an argument for you do the the sneak that they've made famous on third down and see if you can get it to a fourth and one. And then because that play is seemingly so unstoppable. Just do it again on fourth down and believe that you're going to get it again. So there's an argument for just doing that sneak all the way down the field. But the play was a good play in the sense that he he he is opening the flat and it's a safe throw, and your odds are he's gonna catch it and potentially convert, and and you can ice the game. So you know, when you don't know the future, you don't know how it's gonna play out, all you can do is is make your best call that you believe in and and let it go from there.

What was it like you get in the huddle for that last drive and you say, what.

What was it like you get in the huddle for that last drive and you say, what.

You know, I get very methodical. I'm kind of just processed driven. So the play comes in, Hey we got to run this play. If anything, it's all game. It's hey, guys, let's just have fun competing and and let's.

You know, I get very methodical. I'm kind of just processed driven. So the play comes in, Hey we got to run this play. If anything, it's all game. It's hey, guys, let's just have fun competing and and let's.

Wait, wait, that's what you say. You're just like, hey, let's let's compete, have some fun.

Wait, wait, that's what you say. You're just like, hey, let's let's compete, have some fun.

I think there's a little bit of that. Just let's not overcomplicate this. We don't need to talk about, you know, the magnitude of the moment. We don't need to talk about how John Candy's in the stands. You know, they talk about it. Joe Montana said that, like, that's all well and good, but let's just go play and uh, find the open guy, get rid of the ball, and try to get that first first down, and I think I play my best. Just kind of simplifying the process and just treat it like you're playing the job the position you've always played.

I think there's a little bit of that. Just let's not overcomplicate this. We don't need to talk about, you know, the magnitude of the moment. We don't need to talk about how John Candy's in the stands. You know, they talk about it. Joe Montana said that, like, that's all well and good, but let's just go play and uh, find the open guy, get rid of the ball, and try to get that first first down, and I think I play my best. Just kind of simplifying the process and just treat it like you're playing the job the position you've always played.

I'm going to give your offensive line credit. But also in the process question, the Eagles didn't blitz you, how surprised were you? And I know their defensive coordinator normally doesn't do that, but you don't have great mobility coming off surgery. How surprised were you that they didn't send an extra guy or two.

I'm going to give your offensive line credit. But also in the process question, the Eagles didn't blitz you, how surprised were you? And I know their defensive coordinator normally doesn't do that, but you don't have great mobility coming off surgery. How surprised were you that they didn't send an extra guy or two.

Well, so the touchdown of Darnell Moone was cover zero, so that was an all outputs. So if anything, when they did bring the blitz, you know, we had our biggest play of the night in terms of an explosive play. So he may have said, hey, I learned my lesson sending the pressure there, let's not do that. And secondly, until the final drive when they were playing more of a pre event coverage to just keep us out of the end zone. They really did have a roof on the defense and we weren't getting many explosives throughout the game, so I would say their plan was reasonably effective outside of that cover zero and then out side of the final drive, So I wouldn't really second guess that plan. And Vic Fangio is the decourder. I have a lot of respect for it. Played against the law, he's always kind of been tough. It's been hard to find explosives, and in the first game against the Packers they didn't blitz a ton either, so it was pretty pretty consistent with what they've been doing.

Well, so the touchdown of Darnell Moone was cover zero, so that was an all outputs. So if anything, when they did bring the blitz, you know, we had our biggest play of the night in terms of an explosive play. So he may have said, hey, I learned my lesson sending the pressure there, let's not do that. And secondly, until the final drive when they were playing more of a pre event coverage to just keep us out of the end zone. They really did have a roof on the defense and we weren't getting many explosives throughout the game, so I would say their plan was reasonably effective outside of that cover zero and then out side of the final drive, So I wouldn't really second guess that plan. And Vic Fangio is the decourder. I have a lot of respect for it. Played against the law, he's always kind of been tough. It's been hard to find explosives, and in the first game against the Packers they didn't blitz a ton either, so it was pretty pretty consistent with what they've been doing.

Let's go around the room and guess the percentage that Kirk's achilles is or what he's gonna say. So, Todd, what do you think Kirk is going to say as far as how far along he is with the recovery. I'm gonna say eighty three percent, three seat ninety ninety five, ninety Well, I need you to pick. I'm gonna go towards ninety ninety Marvin Zeeden ninety five only.

Let's go around the room and guess the percentage that Kirk's achilles is or what he's gonna say. So, Todd, what do you think Kirk is going to say as far as how far along he is with the recovery. I'm gonna say eighty three percent, three seat ninety ninety five, ninety Well, I need you to pick. I'm gonna go towards ninety ninety Marvin Zeeden ninety five only.

Kirk's a very positive guy. I let's say one hundred and five percent better better Now he's faster, faster. Okay, I'm gonna go I'm gonna say he's eighty eight percent right now.

Kirk's a very positive guy. I let's say one hundred and five percent better better Now he's faster, faster. Okay, I'm gonna go I'm gonna say he's eighty eight percent right now.

I'm somewhere between like ninety five and one oh five. So you're there, create a good parameter. Okay, I'm feeling good. I think the challenge for me Dan and honestly would be the red jersey of practice and the rust that I think needed to be worked off. I think they being out since week eight last year or after week eight, and when you come back, you're not really back. You're in a red jersey and it just doesn't have the same feel of live football. I've always said that going into week one that it's a little hard, but just felt that again this year. And you know, I'm optimistic that as we go here that that that Russ gets off pretty quick.

I'm somewhere between like ninety five and one oh five. So you're there, create a good parameter. Okay, I'm feeling good. I think the challenge for me Dan and honestly would be the red jersey of practice and the rust that I think needed to be worked off. I think they being out since week eight last year or after week eight, and when you come back, you're not really back. You're in a red jersey and it just doesn't have the same feel of live football. I've always said that going into week one that it's a little hard, but just felt that again this year. And you know, I'm optimistic that as we go here that that that Russ gets off pretty quick.

But how does that affect you as far as planting or running or lateral movement?

But how does that affect you as far as planting or running or lateral movement?

You know, I think I think in the first game against the Steelers, the final play really basically the interception that I threw, I'm getting you know, I'm there's push, but I'm used to in practice. Basically the Sea's part, you know, it's like Moses in the Red Sea or I just stand there and everybody just gets out of the way, and I make the throw. And then you play against the Steelers and you realize they're not getting out of the way. They're just going to continue to make it a telephone booth for you. And so kind of realizing that I've been playing in a much much bigger telephone booth in practice, you get this all sense of security of oh, I got space here, I got room, when in reality, no, you don't. And so it takes live bullets to realize, you know, just how fast the game is moving and how just how small that telephone booth can get.

You know, I think I think in the first game against the Steelers, the final play really basically the interception that I threw, I'm getting you know, I'm there's push, but I'm used to in practice. Basically the Sea's part, you know, it's like Moses in the Red Sea or I just stand there and everybody just gets out of the way, and I make the throw. And then you play against the Steelers and you realize they're not getting out of the way. They're just going to continue to make it a telephone booth for you. And so kind of realizing that I've been playing in a much much bigger telephone booth in practice, you get this all sense of security of oh, I got space here, I got room, when in reality, no, you don't. And so it takes live bullets to realize, you know, just how fast the game is moving and how just how small that telephone booth can get.

He's mister Primetime now, Kirk d Cousins joining us on the program for the last five Monday night.

He's mister Primetime now, Kirk d Cousins joining us on the program for the last five Monday night.

You couldn't then, I guess the tables have turned along these lines.

You couldn't then, I guess the tables have turned along these lines.

What happened?

What happened?

What I couldn't figure it out in primetime?

What I couldn't figure it out in primetime?

And I always drugged my shoulders at both sides because some of these Primetime wins I've had recently, I really haven't played that that great, you know. I remember we had won a couple of money night games at the Bears, and I walked on the field. We won, but I wasn't outstanding and there has been games in the past we lost and I thought that's the best I've ever played, So I kind of shrugged my shoulders at it.

And I always drugged my shoulders at both sides because some of these Primetime wins I've had recently, I really haven't played that that great, you know. I remember we had won a couple of money night games at the Bears, and I walked on the field. We won, but I wasn't outstanding and there has been games in the past we lost and I thought that's the best I've ever played, So I kind of shrugged my shoulders at it.

But I'll much rather take mister primetime than what it used to be.

But I'll much rather take mister primetime than what it used to be.

But what is that like when you throw that interception, that that you know you feel like, Okay, we've lost this game, or I've cost us. That feeling of walking off, you know, to the sidelines, going into the locker room, you know.

But what is that like when you throw that interception, that that you know you feel like, Okay, we've lost this game, or I've cost us. That feeling of walking off, you know, to the sidelines, going into the locker room, you know.

Definitely ruined my my afternoon, in my evening. Dan, it's pretty miserable. Uh, but when you go home to the kid's wife, Nah, No, it's there's no there's no consolation. I was sitting there watching the Lions and Rams, and I'm pretty miserable on Sunday night. That's honestly again, that's the challenge I've had my whole career is how do you how do you still sort of sleep at night? How do you you know cause you're gonna fail, this league's gonna test you. Is being able to kind of let it roll off your back and just move forward. For me, it's always been you just wear it so hard, And that was something that both Sean McVay and I used to kind of, you know, have a kindred spirit about is it just it just eats at you, and it's what it's what makes you great. It's one of your greatest strengths. But then it can also be one of your biggest challenges you face. And and just that that how much it means to you something I've always tried to kind of balance.

Definitely ruined my my afternoon, in my evening. Dan, it's pretty miserable. Uh, but when you go home to the kid's wife, Nah, No, it's there's no there's no consolation. I was sitting there watching the Lions and Rams, and I'm pretty miserable on Sunday night. That's honestly again, that's the challenge I've had my whole career is how do you how do you still sort of sleep at night? How do you you know cause you're gonna fail, this league's gonna test you. Is being able to kind of let it roll off your back and just move forward. For me, it's always been you just wear it so hard, And that was something that both Sean McVay and I used to kind of, you know, have a kindred spirit about is it just it just eats at you, and it's what it's what makes you great. It's one of your greatest strengths. But then it can also be one of your biggest challenges you face. And and just that that how much it means to you something I've always tried to kind of balance.

But the pressure that I see on these rookie quarterbacks. You played I think one game your rookie season, but you know, high draft pick, come on in and let's see some magic here.

But the pressure that I see on these rookie quarterbacks. You played I think one game your rookie season, but you know, high draft pick, come on in and let's see some magic here.

Uh?

Uh?

Bryce Young from last year, now he gets binged. I can you can you put us in that position of what that pressure is like for these kids?

Bryce Young from last year, now he gets binged. I can you can you put us in that position of what that pressure is like for these kids?

Yeah, it's it's it's difficult. First of all, football's a team game. And so when you have a great system, great coaches around you, getting people wide open, the protection plans outstanding, you're gonna look a little better, and vice versa. When you you know, if you got to you know people.

Yeah, it's it's it's difficult. First of all, football's a team game. And so when you have a great system, great coaches around you, getting people wide open, the protection plans outstanding, you're gonna look a little better, and vice versa. When you you know, if you got to you know people.

Around you who aren't really helping move the needle. That can make it a lot harder too.

Around you who aren't really helping move the needle. That can make it a lot harder too.

So the quarterback gets evaluated so much as if he's on an island, when in reality, it's a team deal and then uh, certainly as a rookie, there's gonna be you know, a learning curve. There's gonna be things that you've got to figure out. And then then year two comes where defenses say, okay, we we've got a year of film on you. Now we're gonna study you and start to figure out better how to defend you. So even once you have a good rookie year, that doesn't suddenly mean you've got it all figured out. So it's a marathon, not a sprint. I learned that first hand being a fourth round pick, thinking that going to Washington was a dead end and seeing how my career played out. You got to play for the long game and just believe that if you have good habits in a good process, that the long game will work itself out.

So the quarterback gets evaluated so much as if he's on an island, when in reality, it's a team deal and then uh, certainly as a rookie, there's gonna be you know, a learning curve. There's gonna be things that you've got to figure out. And then then year two comes where defenses say, okay, we we've got a year of film on you. Now we're gonna study you and start to figure out better how to defend you. So even once you have a good rookie year, that doesn't suddenly mean you've got it all figured out. So it's a marathon, not a sprint. I learned that first hand being a fourth round pick, thinking that going to Washington was a dead end and seeing how my career played out. You got to play for the long game and just believe that if you have good habits in a good process, that the long game will work itself out.

You got the Chiefs coming to town.

You got the Chiefs coming to town.

Yep, Sunday night, Howell.

Yep, Sunday night, Howell.

How often do you watch the other quarterback too? Not as a fan, but just watching during the game of what Mahomes would do, or Brady would do, or Josh whoever it might be.

How often do you watch the other quarterback too? Not as a fan, but just watching during the game of what Mahomes would do, or Brady would do, or Josh whoever it might be.

Well, it's funny because I remember driving home from a game last year. We play at noon in Minnesota Central time, so we'd be driving home at like four o'clock and my wife, who loves following it all, said in the cars she said, all Sunday night football this week is Mahomes versus Stafford.

Well, it's funny because I remember driving home from a game last year. We play at noon in Minnesota Central time, so we'd be driving home at like four o'clock and my wife, who loves following it all, said in the cars she said, all Sunday night football this week is Mahomes versus Stafford.

That's gonna be great.

That's gonna be great.

It's gonna be a lot of fun or whatever the two quarterbacks were, and I remember kind of kind of laughing. I'm like, well, it's the Chiefs versus the Rams, it's not Mahomes verse Stafford. But her point is is that the quarterbacks are what makes it fun to watch. And I would do agree with her that when you have two really high level, experienced quarterbacks with a lot of skins on the wall, that's what kind of draws my interest the most to watch and to study and to see. And so I think that's where football gets really fun, is when you get those quarterbacks so you feel really know what they're doing. It's it's really the best product.

It's gonna be a lot of fun or whatever the two quarterbacks were, and I remember kind of kind of laughing. I'm like, well, it's the Chiefs versus the Rams, it's not Mahomes verse Stafford. But her point is is that the quarterbacks are what makes it fun to watch. And I would do agree with her that when you have two really high level, experienced quarterbacks with a lot of skins on the wall, that's what kind of draws my interest the most to watch and to study and to see. And so I think that's where football gets really fun, is when you get those quarterbacks so you feel really know what they're doing. It's it's really the best product.

Okay, full disclosure. I wasn't big on the uniforms, the away uniforms, the all white with the black helmet. Yeah, I needed I need a little more oomph in there, a little bit more contrast in there. And I know, if you can work this in your contract, well.

Okay, full disclosure. I wasn't big on the uniforms, the away uniforms, the all white with the black helmet. Yeah, I needed I need a little more oomph in there, a little bit more contrast in there. And I know, if you can work this in your contract, well.

I negotiated a lot of contracts over the years, so I'm open to any.

I negotiated a lot of contracts over the years, so I'm open to any.

You're very good at it. You're very good at it. I think we gotta we gotta do a little better on the road. It just felt a little your uniforms felt incomplete.

You're very good at it. You're very good at it. I think we gotta we gotta do a little better on the road. It just felt a little your uniforms felt incomplete.

See, well, I don't want I don't want incomplete uniforms. But when I played in Michigan State, our style was all white head to toe with with the green helmet. And so when I came in room the other night and saw it's going to be all white with the black helmet, it kind of took me back to my Michigan State days and I thought, I can I can work with this. We had success with this in college, so I was open to it. You know, the linemen tend to like all black because black is slimming. They do not like all white. They feel like they're walking out there looking like the michelin Man.

See, well, I don't want I don't want incomplete uniforms. But when I played in Michigan State, our style was all white head to toe with with the green helmet. And so when I came in room the other night and saw it's going to be all white with the black helmet, it kind of took me back to my Michigan State days and I thought, I can I can work with this. We had success with this in college, so I was open to it. You know, the linemen tend to like all black because black is slimming. They do not like all white. They feel like they're walking out there looking like the michelin Man.

So linemen would be more in your corner. The all white does not work for them.

So linemen would be more in your corner. The all white does not work for them.

When Drake London goes to the line of scrimmage, does he have any options thereof? I mean, the move is incredible to score the game winner, but right, like, how does that work? What's the play call and it's going to him, but does he have any can he change anything?

When Drake London goes to the line of scrimmage, does he have any options thereof? I mean, the move is incredible to score the game winner, but right, like, how does that work? What's the play call and it's going to him, but does he have any can he change anything?

You know?

You know?

So it's it's designed for him to kind of have that basketball crossover. Drake has a basketball background and so he has a real natural feel for how to break down and kind of sell one way and go the other like he's a point guard.