The Dan Patrick ShowOn today's Dan Patrick Show, DP reacts to last night's game between Colorado and NDSU. FOX Big Noon Kickoff Host Brady Quinn calls in to preview Week 1 in College Football. Plus, The Athletic's Mike Sando discusses his QB tiers.
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You got to take what people give you.
You can't take what you want and it's not there.
I mean, what is it? What do you throw for four yards? You think we upset?
Right?
Who upset?
So?
They ever run a game?
Well, the passing game will pretty darn good today.
So let's let's let's be appreciative and thankful that we got one of the premier guys in college football spending it. We're gonna run the ball. We're gonna do that. We're gonna have a lot more ballats. Today was just that type of day. You got to take what they give.
You, okay, But then there was a play towards the end of the game where Dion's sun shoulder put it up for grabs and Dion apparently didn't call the play.
At the end of the.
Game, we just want to run the ball, let's get out of here, and he took a shot, you know, to Legonte because he wanted Le Johnsay to have a big play because you got the other two guys, the dogs, having a big play and they and he know he's going to have one on one matchup. He's just to put it out there far enough. But that's his character. I'm like, come on, dog, not right now. You know, it's not time to be the good guy. Right now, it's time let's put this game away. But that's that's what that was.
Come on, dog, dog, Come on dog. That explains a lot because I'm thinking, the last thing you're gonna do is throw the ball, last thing. And then he throws it and I'm going, oh my god, and you can see Dion's like what are you doing? And then you have to punt and they North Dakota State almost made them pay for it. But it was fun. It was fun to watch. But you know, that gap we have between FCS and FBS, it might be a little closer than what we really think. Because Montana State got paid three hundred and fifty thousand dollars buy New Mexico to go and play New Mexico and then go to New Mexico and beat New Mexico Montana State is really good. Four point win North Dakota State. They're the second favorite for the national championship. So these are quality teams there. You have about remember when Appalachian State would play and they opened up with Michigan one year and you're like, oh boy, that's not a team to open up with, and then they ended up winning in Michigan. You have that occasionally where you had these teams. South Dakota State defending FCS champs. Now they're playing Oklahoma State in Stillwater. Oklahoma State, I believe, has twenty starters back, and I mean, would I be surprised if that game's really closer South Dakota State won. I would not be because they're nine and a half point underdogs, just like North Dakota State was with Colorado. Oklahoma State is better than Colorado. But these are two really good teams on the road, and you know they need to do this. They want to schedule out of conference. They want to schedule with the bigger boys, so when they go back and they're playing in their conference, in their division, that they're ready to go. So you know, FCS, FBS, I know it's sometimes not as blurred as we think it should be, but there are probably five to seven programs that can go toe to toe with some of these schools, now, not Georgia, not Alabama, but with some of these other schools absolutely, and Colorado taking on North Dakota State. I don't know if Dion scheduled that, but you know that's one of those where you go, wait, we're open up with them. It's that's one of those where you go, well, even TCU, but Colorado would get these games because people probably wanted to schedule Colorado because they weren't very good. Now with Colorado getting a little bit better, and you certainly saw that last night, you know the schedule is going to change where maybe you don't take chances like this, but give credit, Colorado ended up winning the game. And Travis Hunter is probably the leading candidate for the sept Heisman the month of September. He is the Heisman front runner so far only because the other front runners, the favorites, haven't played. But he's great and I'm looking at the number of plays that he was involved in. He played one and twenty nine snaps, fifty seven on offense, seventy two on defense, wide receiver, defensive back, corner safety, a linebacker at one point. Pretty remarkable. I mean, the best player on the field. And I know people are going to say, and we talked about it last year, and that is could he be a two way player? Talent wise, yes, time wise probably not, because you have to be in the receivers meetings, offensive meetings, and then you'd have to be in the defensive meetings. You have to go out and then have reps at practice. I think what will happen with Travis is he would probably be a defense Like it's easier to find a wide receiver than it is a great cornerback. You can find great wide receivers, great cornerbacks. How many great cornerbacks do we have in the NFL right now? Not a lot. We have a lot of great wide receivers. He might go in as a corner and then maybe you have ten plays that you us him for five plays you're usinghim for maybe a punt return. He's that talented. And Shardoor Sanders is going to be a first round draft pick, probably going to be a Heisman candidate, maybe more so than you know, Travis Hunter. But Dion got the win, and uh, it was fun. I enjoyed that game. I was not going to be surprised if North Dakota State won that game. Also, you had other I thought North Carolina Minnesota was going to be the game of the night, and it turned out to be came down to the final seconds. Minnesota had a chance to win that missed a field goal. It was fun, fun to watch that back and forth, and uh, North Carolina ended up getting the win. Seaton, what's pull question today?
Well, we could start with if you were Travis Hunter, which would you play in the NFL?
Offense or defense? Okay, well, you're going to get paid more as a wide receiver if you're an elite wide receiver. But it feels like, I mean, he might be just one of those guys on defense that you do pay a lot more because he's going to be reminiscent of Dion or Durell Reeves, Champ Bailey, you know those guys that are just difference makers. But I think he would go in as a defensive back. But he I mean, he might be looking at these salaries that these you know, receivers are getting and going, yeah, it'd be nice to be able to play defense. But nobody knows if you're great as a cornerback. Nobody knows who you are because you're not involved in plays, because you're taking away the best wide receiver. The ball's not going over to you, and as a wide receiver, you're gonna be in the conversation constantly, So he might go, you know, I kind of like the money in the spotlight there as opposed to being a lockdown corner.
Yeah at six what six' one six two, that's pretty good guy.
Yeah, it's for a corner.
Yeah, you know what I like about him going in as a as a cornerback. He would play every play as a corner, and then you could sneak him in as a wide receiver on the offense. Sure, if he's a wide receiver, you're not snee throw him out in corner for a couple of plays.
Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, Pauline, what if Travis.
Hunter went the other direction? I know, you just laid out the reasons why you can't be a semi full time to way player. What if he did the same thing Otani did when he negotiated with the MLB teams and said I'm going to play full time ish both ways, and that's how he ended up at the Angels. Now he may drop in the draft because of that, because if he's demanding like that, But he could also be one of the more novel unique players of the next generation in the NFL. If he says, I want to play forty plays a game on both sides of.
The ball, well, I don't know what his salary would be, but you could get kind of two salaries if you're playing two different positions, I would think. Now the question is, are team's going to want him to play both? Allow him to play both. But it certainly worked out for Sho heeo Tani and the Angels. Yes, Todd, you could.
Squeeze too much out of a great player that can do both, and then all of a sudden he's injured because he asks too much of him to play offense and defense, and now you've lost him for either side of the ball.
Yeah. Well, I think he's talent enough that even at seventy five percent at both positions, he's still going to be pretty elite. He's great, But he was the number one recruit in America and went to Jackson State with Dion and then transferred when Dion left. But what other pole questions are we thinking about today. Tod's got a couple of interesting ones too. We didn't get to our usual Thursday round of Todd bo questions, but he's back again on Friday. Okay, cool, Okay.
After watching the game last night, the Colorado Buffaloes are going to be much better than I thought in trouble and will struggle just to be Bowl eligible. How impressed were you with the Buffaloes last night?
I wasn't. I was impressed with a couple of players. That defense is not good and North Dakota State could run when they wanted to run. There was very little pass rush, it felt like. But they're going to have explosive plays. They're just going to be in shootouts. I think you just have to lock yourself in and say it's going to be a wild ride. Do I think six wins seven wins possibility? Sure, just because you have a great quarterback and you have a couple of great wide receivers and Dion's they're still going to run the football. But I with his son as the quarterback changing plays and Elias Scrimmage and who knows. By the way, the four ranked teams were in action last night, won by a combined score of one to eighty six to twenty four. Western Carolina scored twenty one of the twenty four points. They lost to North Carolina State and uh Missouri and Utah had shutouts there. Utah's quarterback is Cam Rising. He had five touchdown passes. Utah blew out Southern Utah. He's a seventh year senior, last of a last of a breed, seventh year senior. Now, I watched the Rose Bowl when he blew out his knee. That was twenty twenty three, and here we are, and he is a seventh year senior. Like we need to cap it. Like you should get five years to play Mike, right, I mean, I know you had the COVID and there's transfer portal, and but seven years time down to the real world.
You're not an idol.
Listen, Yes, the real world. The rest of us have to college.
Now.
I did stay on off campus at the University of Dayton for a few years after I graduated. I lived off campus, but I wasn't taking classes. I just like the atmosphere. You know, the beer was cheap, so was the rent, and no short supply of shorties if you know what I mean. Yes, PAULI cam Rising was born in the nineties. That's it entire statement.
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Happy to meet Friday Boys, Minister of humor. Let's go baby DP. I don't know about Marvin, but I slept a whole lot better her last night after getting Brandon and I used notification last night. That was my goodness. In the words of seeding jeepers, creepers, that was getting ridiculous and uh Coach Prime, Dan wrote riding his two horses and first round draft picks and Heisman hopefuls. I mean, winning the opener was great and for content, but I feel like Colorado is a ticking time bomb Dan, Like they they only have so many wins in them and then when they start losing, that's when it's gonna get interesting and it starts unraveling, because you know, Coach Prime has got some got some ego there, but we'll see how he handles it all. And I don't know, it's just going to be interesting to watch. So you guys have a great weekend.
Boys.
Thank you. Buddha. Can we look at Colorado's schedule? I know they have Colorado State. Uh, the Big twelve isn't as formidable as it has been, Yes, Bully.
The next few weeks at Nebraska at Colorado State Home Baylor at Central Florida, Kansas State, Arizona, Cincinnati, Texas Tech, Utah, Kansas, Oklahoma State. Okay, it's like all be teams like.
Yeah, well Utah, Utah might be a really good team. Utah might be in the in the playoffs. Oklahoma State's good. I don't know if they're great, but okay, at Colorado State. That was a great game last year. They could lose at Nebraska. I don't even know what the line is on that, but uh, Nebraska, I think it's going to be a lot better. Star freshman quarterback, Yes, Pauline.
Just to give you an idea how old Cam Rising is from Utah. He was in the same recruiting class as Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Micah Parsons, amar ros Saint Brown, and Jalen Waddle. Okay, all guys who are going on to their second NFL contracts.
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I wasn't going to ask you to, but you know, now that you bring it up, would you buy some beer? A six pack or something? All right, let me take a break. Just getting started, we will settle on our pole question, big college football weekend. We'll run down the point spreads. There a couple of surprisers. There is surpriser worn surpriser weekend. A couple of surprisers. See if surpriser is a word.
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Right now, we're in Morgantown, West Virginia for the big matchup between Penn State and West Virginia, and you know, Dan, we've never been here before, so this is a it's a fun experience for us, always one to new places. Seeing the excitement, you know, with West West Virginia, how they played last year, some of the fans feel like this is probably as good of a team, or at least they're they're feeling this way to going in the season. But it's good of a team since Gino Smith and Tebon Austin and that group really came through Morgantown.
So a lot of excitement from the Mountaineers.
Feels like every year at this time we talk about Penn State and we go, Okay, are they in the Ohio State Michigan category? They're in the very good category. Handicapped Penn State this year because I know there's gonna be a white out night and it's gonna be great and it's gonna be festive, and then at the end of the year they're ten and two.
Well, but the difference with ten and two this year is ten and two will get you rid of the play with a twelve team playoffs.
Okay, and actually, if you go back through the past decade of the fourteenth playoff, if it was twelve, let's just say hypothetically it was twelve teams, Penn State would have been in six times. So I think that narrative probably changes a lot for James Frank won in Penn State as far as just how consistently good they've been with the exception of facing Ohio State Michigan.
This is the year though, where I feel like it's gonna be different.
And for that reason, one, they've got new coordinators on both sides of the ball.
Their defense has never got an issue.
I think Tom Allen, the format coach in Indiana, would do a tremendous job. That moves some pieces around on defense too to kind of fit what they need. But it's more about Andykotnikki, the offensive coordinator comes in from Kansas, extremely creative. Look, they're gonna run the football. You have k Tron Allen Nicks singles at a running back. There's a tour of the best in college football. That's the bread and butter. But it's getting the most out of Drewaler and if he can do that. I think this guy, he reminds me a lot of Ben Roethlisberger. He's big, he's athletic, he's got a big arm. You just see some inaccuracy here and there, and then then the short intermediate throws sometimes. You know, he has a hard time creating to make some things happen. But you see flashes of what I'm talking about in regards to Big Ben and some of the similarities. So if he can get that out of it more consistently, I think they're gonna be a team that's gonna be competing for the Big Ten, probably with Ohio State.
Okay, yeah, LSU and USC. That's sneaky in Vegas handicap those two. LSU losing Jayden Daniels, USC losing Caleb Williams.
Yeah, it's funny, you know, talking to Lincoln Riley this offseason, one of the things he mentioned was how they lose that improvisational skill set that Caleb brings. But you know, Miller Moss kind of plays more maybe within the system, you know, maybe more what you want from a play caller or a coach, And it led me to think that, you know, moving on from a guy like Caleb Williams, who is a generational talent, but now having a guy in the quarterback spot that maybe it's not quite as talented. Maybe when they do when maybe maybe when they do have that success, it feels more's a team as opposed to it.
Just being one individual carrying that team.
And I got the sense that they feel like they're a better spot from a team perspective. Obviously, the changes on the defensive staff will be part of that hit the portal again to help that group. But I got the sense that this team feels like they're in a better spot than where they were before, where a lot of things were just kind of about Caleb Williams and all they heard was how bad they were everywhere else besides Caleb Williams. So I think Lincoln Riley feels like he's in a better spot from that standpoint. But again, the transition to the Big Ten is gonna be tough, and starting off versus LSU isn't going to help build a lot of momentum because elis who's an extremely talented team. You know, I think Garrett Splier's going to pick up right where Jane Daniels left offs. Now he's not gonna have Mike Nrock there calling places for him. However, Brian Kelly has been through coaching changes before. He's an extremely successful head coach, so he will be able to write that shit. I'm not sure how that this opening game like this will play out. I would lean more towards LSU with some of the talent they have, some the continuity they have too, compared to some of the change that you've got it at USC with the defense and opstadion quarterback.
How do we get here with Clemson where they were in the conversation for national title and now all of a sudden has debo.
I don't know.
It feels like they dropped a little bit here. Not I mean, what are they sixteenth in the country, but still they're twelve point underdogs against Georgia and he doesn't take transfers or nil or you know, he's got his principles there. Now. It feels like the Natives are getting restless here with Dabo.
And there's something to be said for kind of sticking to what you believe your identity is, what you want.
To kind of create your program around. There's something to be said for that.
However, I think everyone would agree you have to adapt with the times. If you want to survive, and if you want to be considered one of the top teams. In order to do that, you've got to participate in nil. You've got to be able to supplement your roster the transfer portal. I mean, you look at some teams, for example, like Colorado, they're making wholesale changes in.
A transfer portal. Now I'm not saying that's the way of doing it.
Maybe it is, though, you know, maybe coach Prime after the win last night, be able. They'll prove otherwise that you could turn over a roster every off season if you will, And for the most part, as long as you have a quarterback and a few of the key pieces.
You can go win some football games.
But they've been really resistant to do that, and I think we've seen it kind of hurt them in some spots where Look, I mean, high school recruiting is not exact science. So when you're bringing these kids up, you know, you don't know how they're going to develop, You don't know what they're going to turn into three or four years down the road. So I think that's hurt them a little bit. And not being able to replace some of the spots that they've missed. They've obviously lost some coordinators too. I think that always plays a role and try to replace good coordinators that come in underneath you. Every head coach that has dealt with that nick statement did but probably more successfully than others. But I think it's a lack of wanting to adapt to the times that being able to supplement's spots where maybe they've missed and so what they've been down. But I mean not down to the grand schema things, just more down to the degree that Dabble I think created for him.
So talking to Brady Quinn, Fox College football analyst, Big noon Kickoff in Morgantown coming up this weekend. Coverage starts at ten am Eastern on Fox. Also one of the hosts on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, the show that preceeds hours on Fox Sports Radio. Let me start with Shudor Sanders. What do you see I mean? Are we talking first round high, first round talent at quarterback.
Yes, I think he's going to compete with Carson Beck for the number one overall quarterback and for these reasons, you know, I think a lot of the conversation about shador Or Colorado and coach Prime intends of being all this stuff outside of foot for the most part, right when you watch him, First off, he's an incredibly accurate passer, and so that translates to no matter what level football you're playing. The thing that I love about him the most, it's really truefold and it kind of goes hand in hand. It's his poise and his toughness. I mean, how many times did we see last year and even just last night he hangs in there. He hangs in there, or even he buys time to hang in there until someone separates or gets open and he delivers a strike and gets blasted. That is something that you cannot coach. You cannot teach. You either have that or you don't. And you could tell he's put on some muscle to this offseason, I think to prepare himself for that because let's just be honest, where our offensive line is at, they're probably going to face more of those issues, especially if they're not balance running the football. But that poise and toughness always gives them a shot. And he is one of the best quarterbacks. And he's got some extremely talented skilled players in Travis Hunter and Jimmy Horn junior.
So they're going to hang around a lot of games.
But I think if he continues on this path, they keep winning football games, I think he's gonna be up for the Heisman.
He'll be up bat only for that number one overall spot in the draft.
The interesting thing is going to be is if he gets still the attention for the Heisman even if the team doesn't win quite as many games because of the heavy lift that he's got.
You know, with that Colorado team, if.
You're Travis Hunter, would you gear up to be defensive back or wide receiver in the NFL?
Oh Man, I mean looking at these wide receiver contracts.
What I said, Yeah, I agree, Brandon.
I you frustrated with a four year ABO one hundred and twenty million dollars contract.
I he's all just strata about it.
But people are gonna say, oh, you know, he can play both both ways, and I said, you can't because you're going to be in defensive meetings offensive meetings, like you can't meet two places at one time. Or could he?
I think he could.
You know, you figure out a way of the schedule scheduling so you get him caught up to speed.
On both but full time on both sides of the ball, or.
Maybe not full time, and you're gonna have players you rotate out any way as a wide receiver. And so if I was looking at it realistically of how that would work, I think he'd be out there full time as a defensive back and then a wide receiver. He'd be in probably sixty to seventy percent of the play. And I think that's that's possible.
Wow, Now you gotta go.
You gotta be good about how you hide that, because you can't just throw him in there on place where you know they're throwing the football right because every team's scouty report and go, hey, Travison, it's gonna be a pass. So you've got to be careful about that. I think he's the type of athlete and we're a talent that could. I know there's a lot of people who are going to track from that and say it's an NFL schedule, he won't be able to take the physicality and the beating. I would love to see him try that. I'd love to least see him try to see if he could do it.
Could you have played like inside linebacker as well as quarterback? Same time.
I think in my mind I would like to think that, but in reality most likely not, especially having a brother in law who played that position and always.
I mean, if you ever notice, like as hands, I used to see this after.
He played games, like he kind of holds him like this because they'd be so mangled, like he couldn't break his wrists or everything else. His hands would be all beat up. They looked like, you know, big fish hooks is really what they look like.
So your brother's aj Hawk. Did he ever hit you?
Of course? Yeah?
Yes, the Bowl, he actually you know a lot of people don't know this. He actually got me twice. He beat me twice. When we're in sixth grade, we played in a Dayton league. We like couldn't find enough teams apparently in central Ohio, so we gonna travel a Dayton every every Saturday to go play. And he played for Centerble and their team beat us in the championship of that back in sixth grade, and obviously they beat us in the Fiesta Bowl as well.
Has he hit you off the field?
No, No, We every once in a while we'll kind of test each other, you know, kind of like the probably hug that like evolves into like testing to.
See like how he responds and stuff. But he actually tore his peck.
And so every single time I see him and mess with him, poke him where I know he taurus peck where kind of hurts him, and messes.
With him a little bit. I like it.
And then every once in a while I'll act like I'm gonna shoot, try to do like a takedown or something. But he's got a little crazy at him, like to be married to my older sister, Like he's got to be a little He always says she's crazy, but he's crazy too.
Yeah, but you tried to wrestle Will Ferrell a year ago at this time when we were in Ireland, and.
That was a mistake. If I'm looking back on that, I had no idea. By the way, Will looks great for his age. I had no idea his age. And then I realized, like there could have been a broken hip involved, there could have been a cardiac event, and I regret that. I apologize, and I mean, I think I just got caught up in a moment there in Ireland, which I think we all did if we're being.
Honest with yes, that is true. More concerning Alabama, without Saban or Michigan without Harbaugh.
I think it's Alabama without Saban, and it's twofold.
The first is, if you're a Kalyn de Bor, you're a great coach.
We've seen his track round it so far, but you're replacing the goat, And so how do you even go about putting your fingerprints on something that it's not like it needs to be fixed, Like he just decided to hang it up. So now you've got to try to find your own spin on it and equate to even a portion of the success that Nick sab It had and it's incredibly difficult to do.
So that in and of itself is hard.
And then I think for Caitlyn de Boor, looking at what he has, I think Jalen milro is one of the best quarterbacks in college football. But if you look at what Kaitlyn de Boor was one with Michael Pennix for the two years he was in Washington, he transformed him from a different player from his time in Indiana and they threw the football all around the field. I don't know that Jaylen Milroe out the gate will be able to do that this year. So how do you go back constructing the offense to play to those strengths. That'll be another one of those challenges. And I think for Michigan, Look, we already saw Schroon or Or play some football last year. And if I had to ask you what you think the identity of mission is this year, it's probably we're going to say together the run game and really salty defense.
Right.
I mean, I had a first round quarterback last year and they'll stilled their identity.
So that's not going to change even though Jim Harball's not there.
But can you see Harball try to bring Michigan to the Chargers.
Yeah, he just signed uh Hassan Haskins.
I mean he's literally signing players out there that used to be on his roster.
But I think that's also part of what you do as a head coach.
Right, Can you run the football like? Can he play Michigan style in the NFL?
Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt about it. I mean you've got to adapt and change a little bit. But go back to the San Francisco teams. I mean, you figure out a way of utilizing Colin Kaeprick to make him effective in the running game. I mean, if I'm not a stake in going back those years with Frank Gore is incredibly productive and a salty defense.
I mean, that's how they built that roster and built that team.
And I think he made a statement too, and he took Joel and not because he's an enter dame guy, but because that's how they built those teams. If you look at Michigan and when he probably got there, he looked at it and says, if I'm watching Bama, if I'm watching Georgia, everyone's talking about the trench.
Like we just talk about still players. All we want. Would would we go every week to see these teams.
I can almost surely sit there and go that team's gonna win, that team's gonna lose. It's because how they look up front, sure on both sides of the football. And I think that's what he's trying to get to. That's why he took a mammoth of a human being.
And Joel behave down there in Morgantown. You can get in trouble.
I've heard that before. I've heard that before. I'm still looking for uh, I'm still looking for a little fun. Maybe we can do something with the Mountaineer or something, you know, get that old musket out there.
Clo uh Seaton went to uh went to West Virginia for a little while. Did my cameo?
People? Why why a little while? Well? Why a little while? What happened?
If you just refer back to that trouble that you get into U, we're telling you I took full advantage of that in my tenure there.
Not ten years, but tenures, ten years ten years there, I mean, so.
I'm not judging if it was ten years, by the way, not judgment.
Did you ever get in trouble at Notre Dame like socially?
No, there is an incident one time where there's construction near my dorm. I lived lived in zomb Hall, which, to give you any indication, it's not even a dorm anymore. It was a little bit of a wild dorm.
I guess.
But we don't pick. We get kind of thrown in there. I had driven on campus. I think it was in the summertime or maybe it was like maybe just started the season and it was an area where there was construction, and so there's a gate to get on campus.
You can't just like drive on wherever you want.
It's really hard to get on, and so they had let me go on because I think I was like dropping people off or something.
But the person at the gate told me to drive on a sidewalk area because there's constructions.
Wise I couldn't get back to the dorm, and I did so there happened to be like a Notre Dame police officer there. She was not too happy about that. So that became like a big incident. Or there's like cop cars everywhere, and then they all it took was one radio up to the guard game and they're like, yeah, sorry about that.
I told them you do that. So that was about the most trouble I got in.
But there was like ATVs there's like three cop cars surrounding like the dorms, like everyone's looking outside, and I was like, this looks a lot worse than what actually happened here.
It sounds like a boring college career.
It had to be boring, though, man, when you're when you're the quarterback of Notre.
Dame and I'm sure you know Sam Hartman and his hair dealt with this last year. You know Riley Lennon's dealing with this. Now is you get noticed everywhere? I mean I remember even like afterwards, like we've been on international trips in Italy or Ireland, like you've got people randomly just go hey, I remember watching a Notre Dame. It's it's it's one of those things that kind of it comes with the territory.
All right, Well, have some fun down there. Thanks for joining us. As always, Brady, I'll have a lot of fun liners here.
So you know that.
Liner didn't get cheated in college though, no.
He did not.
He had a great day, Rady. He should have stayed an extra year at USC.
I mean think about you, say, like seven years.
Now, Liner should still be at USC's forty years old. Yeah, thank you, Brady, Brady Quinn there in Morgantown, it's been state and in West Virginia Big noon kickoff. Also, he's one of the co hosts on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, the show that preceeds hours on Fox Sports Radio. Will come back update the poll results. Dak Prescott has some interesting things to say about his owner and the NFL team that will drop out of the playoff mix from last year. Have that for you After this.
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Wap I was curious the last time Clemson came into a game as an underdog of ten or more points. September of twenty twelve, Clemson tenth in the country, fourteen and a half point underdog at number four Florida State. Florida State won that game forty nine to thirty seven, twelve point underdog against Georgia. Coming up on Saturday. He's Mike Sando back on the program, senior NFL writer at the Athletic and he has ranked the quarterbacks different tiers here, so it's not ranking them now. This is yearly that he does this, and for the first time since twenty sixteen, only three quarterbacks landed in Tier one. Aaron Rodgers not there for the first time in the eleven year history that he's been doing it. Mike, good to see you again. Now, based on your rankings, the lowest ranked quarterback who will start Week one is who.
Probably Jacoby Brissett by to scroll all the way down, johe Verssett is just seen as a really great backup quarterback and somebody you wouldn't probably want to have start the whole season, so it may be a little unfair to compare him to the other guys that are earning a lot more money. But we wanted to have all the veterans starters represented, and I think that probably accurately reflects how even the Patriots feel about him. They wanted to start, but probably not for too long.
Did you think about putting Mahomes on his own tier? Well?
I did. First off, to do this ranking, I talked to fifty coaches and execs in the league, seven GM's, eight head coaches, a dozen coordinators, a bunch of people. So it's there rankings really based on their criteria that I've gleaned from them. And one of the comments was from one of the guys I spoke with, can we have a tier zero for Mahomes? Because I think Mahomes is different Historically, Dan, if you look at the multiple championship winning quarterbacks, you can start Bradshaw, you know, Joe Montana, get into Aikman far Brady. They usually did it with not just good defenses, but elite. The forty nine ers led the league in fewest points allowed in the eighties. People don't really know that Mahomes in nineteen and twenty two the Super Bowl on teams that weren't even top half of the league. And then last year's defense was good and he was able to win it without as good of an offense. But that is a differentiator to me, not just among the quarterbacks playing today, but it's hard to find guys who win multiple championships without really good defenses. And that's why Brady and that's why Rogers and Breeze great Quarterbacks Hall of Famers, one ring each. That was the missing component. They couldn't overcome it. Mahomes has.
So you have three quarterbacks on Tier one, Mahomes and then the other two quarterbacks.
Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, with Lamar Jackson just next, missing Tier one by about three votes.
But if I factor in turnovers here with Josh Allen, like how do you quantify the turnovers? And he's had more turnovers than any other quarterback, I.
Don't think any Whenever I talked to coaches or executives, they never start talking about stats. They're not the number one reason that Allen wasn't higher and unanimous he got eleven votes lower than Tier one, was because the turnovers. Sometimes he just risks the football too much. They do feel though he can not only carry an offense. One of the key components of Tier one for people in the league is how expertly do you handle the peer pass situations? Meaning we strip away the run game, we even strip away your scrambling. Can you drop back to win the game when we're down and throw and throw and throw? And they do feel that, not only mahomes but Burrow and Alan do that just to tick better than the other quarterbacks that are below them in the league.
Hmm. You know, guys who played the position they love Burrow like they really they Now, the sample size isn't as big for me as I think it needs to be to look at his greatness. I mean we saw it in college. Obviously they did get to the super Bowl. He's been banged up a little bit, but it's amazing how these former quarterbacks look at him and they they see something, you know, Montana like like special, really really special. Obvious not mahomes Ian, But what is it about Burrow that makes him, you know, one of the you know, two best quarterbacks in the league the three toughness.
Swag and just incredible passing ability. I think he's really a good. Just has an amazing feel for the game. The defensive guys marvel about him too. More than one defensive coordinator told me about the time their team played him. Beat the snot out of them, hit him, and the defensive linemen are coming back to the coach going, oh my gosh, this is a real guy.
So I think he really does have You know, he takes a lot of boxes.
Now people all the worry is he takes too many hits and he's had too many injuries. You know, usually the great quarterbacks don't miss games. I mean even you know, these guys who play for a lot time, they have two hundred starts in a row if they're Rivers or some of the ELI, some of your guys or yeah, farv and so that's the weird thing. One defensive coach who played him a number of times said, the guy doesn't fall right. I don't know if there's some science to that, but usually these guys like Burrow have such a great feel for the game that they kind of avoid some of those injuries.
How do you evaluate rock Perdy Well?
So brock Purdy moved up thirteen spots from last year. He was a little bit of a provisional guy last year because he didn't have as many starts coming in.
But here's what I think.
Everybody points to Kyle Shanahan and the weaponry, and I think that's rightly so. But if you're just a consistent producer, you're gonna move solidly into Tier two. And if he were to do this for ten years straight, he'd probably find his way into Tier one. But when people play him, they're not like, oh my god, there's not some amazing superpower that he has the wows you. You just can't discount the production when it's that good and consistent. So I think that's why he's in tier two. He's kind of in the bottom half of Tier two. I bet you he could come up to the middle. But I do see a little bit of a line. If you look at the first four guys in Tier two, Lamar, Herbert, Stafford, Rogers, those guys are like, it's a debate. They get a ton of Tier one ers, you know, tier one votes. I'm not sure Perdy. We'll see if Perdy is going to get that. You know, maybe he leads them to the Super Bowl win and.
That does it. If I think we looked at the numbers the other day. Mahomes has had the best start of a career I think of any quarterback in the modern era.
Yep.
But if I look at him and Brady at twenty seven, twenty eight years of age, is that a fair comparison. I gives Brady second to Mahomes if we look at that first, you know, five years, six years in the league.
I think he is because I think the composition of that New England team, they were so good defensively from the from the start, and he was amazing unless not. I mean we're comparing a Ferrari and Lamborghini here, not discounting Tom Brady at all. But I do look at degree of difficulty, and to me, the way you look at that is just what are the things that the quarterback can't control an influence? Yeah, you can put your defense in a better position or a worse position.
But that is what I look at.
Defense and even special teams was was lights out I think for most of the Belichick era. So to me, it's been a little bit higher degree of difficulty, with probably more placed on the quarterback Earlier. I think the way you know, the mobility of Mahomes and his resourcefulness that way, you know, has probably put a little bit more of it on his back than it was for Brady that early. You look at Tom Brady going along when they get to seven and they had the weaponry, then I think he, you know, was really putting it on his shoulders more.
Talking to Sando's senior NFL writer at the athletic and eleven year history of ranking these quarterbacks in different tiers, and for the first time in the eleven year history, Aaron Rodgers is not in that tier one. How do you assess Rogers now or how did the coaches assess Rogers?
Yeah, I think everybody, most people feel that if he's healthy, he's still a top tier quarterback. But he got votes in like four tiers. I mean, it's kind of silly, but there's a lot of uncertainty. There's some feeling among people that hey, he wasn't quite as good at the end of Green Bay then doesn't last very long New Environment, whole season on turf. All sort of believe it when I see it. So a good number of people, I think twenty three put him in tier one, but eighteen people that put him in tier two were probably thinking that I'm just going to knock him down a tier because there is some uncertainty. And then there was a minority of people nine that put him in that put him lower than that, and I think they're saying, hey, the decline started, it's going to be hard for him to recapture what he was.
So we'll see. I can't wait.
That's one of the things this season you just can't wait for, is like what rogers are we going to get?
How do you look at the rookie quarterbacks?
So Caleb Williams would be the one I think people are most excited about and optimistic about, and then I do believe that it would be Jaden Daniels next. And then I feel like there's a split on may you know, just some of the people that I've I've talked to, you get a little bit more of disagreement of how good they think he can be. And then you go on to Pennix, who I personally really liked him and just as a pastor in college. But it seems like a lot of people think he's more of a finished product and they wonder how much better he's going to get. So we'll see about that. JJ McCarthy. I think we're just going to have to wait on and then bow Nix. It's really all the fit with Peyton. I think if you like bo Nicks, you like Sean Payton, and you're you're betting on that combination more than necessarily the skill set of bo Nicks or anything like that.
Well, a lot of good stuff, a lot of good information here. It's at the Athletic and it's Mike Sando's column, senior NFL writer there. Good to talk to you again, Mike, good luck, have fun in the upcoming season. Thank you you too. That's Mike Sando and joined the Athletic. He spent twelve years I think at the mothership, the Pro Football Hall of Fame voter.
Yes, Paul, I'm with you on the Mahomes thing. It does feel like he's earned the right to have his own tier. It's weird that I'm actually a little bothered.
By You're bothered by it.
Well, it's like Joe Burrow and Josh Allen, their careers really aren't that close to Mahomes.
No, it's a big he's a lapping the field. I guess I'm surprised. It feels like there's this negative blowback on Josh Allen that he can't win the big one here, can't handle you know, the big moment there, He too many turnovers, whatever it might be. I always feel like when he's playing, Buffalo has a chance to win. And I can't say that about every quarterback. I feel like because of him they can win a game. Burrow, I feel that way. Mahomes, I feel that way. And then it starts to get a little diceier where you're going, all Right, Do I fully believe that that quarterback can somehow find a way to win a game, and that sometimes is the real litmus test, at least for me. Yes, yes, uh, Marvin.
Yes it is.
Marvin Hey, Marvin Hey, Is this the perfect store for Josh Allen to win MVP?
No, Stefan Diggs.
Everyone's kind of down on you guys this year.
Not expecting you guys to be Super Bowl contenders.
Might be harder. I mean, I guess the storyline is there, but he's still got to produce. And these young these young receivers, they got to be able to step up. And they do have young talent there and a couple of good tight ends. But trying to assess this handicap, this you know, the draft is loaded with people where we go. Man didn't see that one for a variety of reasons, either really good or really bad. Dak Prescott had something to say about his owner, Jerry Jones. The coverage doesn't always match the headline here because it feels like Dak Prescott takes a shot at his owner. Here is Dak Prescott and it starts with the reporter's question.
Jerry said, the negotiation isn't about your merit as the Cowboys quarterback, but more about there. What do you take from that when he says, you know, it's not really about what you're doing, Well.
Yeah, I understand that that's the business and the nature of this game that we play. Yeah, I mean I stopped honestly listening to things that he says to the media a long time ago, so it doesn't really hold away with me.
Okay, Now if I just printed that as opposed to you hearing that, you would have a different take on that. He was also asked about is he going to get a contract before the season starts?
As I said, well, back in camp, it's too It's two parts of this. Both SATs have to come to the room.
You don't need a deal done before the season.
I don't need to know. No, do what you like it done before the season.
I think it says a lot if it is or if it isn't. But however it doesn't, it doesn't really matter to me, to be honest with me, What does this say if it isn't, just how people feel?
Okay? And I applaud the reporter good follow up question there. But if I'm Dak Prescott, I'm not Once the season starts, I'm going to play this out because you had your time, nothing's changed. I am who I am, and you know what the market's going to be. And then if you play well, I mean, didn't you get a new deal after you know, messing up his ankle breaking his ankle?
Like?
I think he's okay, And he handles this well. He really does, because this is every day. This is many times a day people want to ask you about this, pin you down, relationship with Jerry, relationship with ced lamb uh, you know, your place amongst the great quarter like all of this stuff, and I think he handles it extremely well. Does that sound easy? Not many quarterbacks get all of these questions all of the time, and Dak Prescott does. It goes along with the territory being the Cowboys quarterback. But hey, if he plays well, bets on himself. Get to the off season, they're going to be teams waiting to sign him. Let me take a break. Last call for phone calls? What we learn, what's in store tomorrow? And Todd has his rhyme time. We're all excited for rhyme time. Come on. Okay, now did that sound fake.
A little bit?
Okay, good catch it. You see right through us, don't you? Okay? Okay, now you're you're gonna be his buddy, don't okay? You know your microphone is I can hear what you're saying. You know how they are. Don't listen
