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We did it. We made it to a Friday morale is high.

We did it. We made it to a Friday morale is high.

Just went out and inspected the Traeger grills Chicken in sausage gumbo today.

Just went out and inspected the Traeger grills Chicken in sausage gumbo today.

We're not playing around today. Who's got it better than we do? No body?

We're not playing around today. Who's got it better than we do? No body?

This is kind of a precursor to the super Bowl in New Orleans. I said to Tyler, could you whip up a little New Orleans for me? He said, got it? Boss, Chicken in sausage gumbo today.

This is kind of a precursor to the super Bowl in New Orleans. I said to Tyler, could you whip up a little New Orleans for me? He said, got it? Boss, Chicken in sausage gumbo today.

All right?

All right?

Come on, Oh, I just found out the calendars are available at Danpatrick dot com. These are takeoffs on sports movie posters. The calendars might be the best. I think they are the best ones that we've ever done. Twenty twenty five calendars available just in time for the holidays. Go to Danpatrick dot com and we will have some autograph ones in there. But everything is well. Supplies last, the moonshine everything that we do. It's usual while supplies last. The calendars awesome. So go to Danpatrick dot com and you can place your order. The Ravens holding off the Bengals thirty five thirty four, it's weird to have at least for me an opinion on both teams and have a negative opinion on both teams after a game like that, because with the Bengals, they don't have defense, and it is rearing its ugly head here. They do have offense. The Ravens have offense, but they don't have defense. Now, for one, I'm thinking about just getting into the playoffs. The Bengals the Ravens. I'm thinking about bigger picture winning a super Bowl. They're not going to win a super Bowl this way. You know, you're barely scraping by Cincinnati. And Cincinnati is a good team. They don't have a good record. They can put up points, and both of these quarterbacks look wonderful last night. But I'm looking at the Ravens bigger picture because we saw the playoff version of the Ravens last year, and they were great last year. I mean, they had a really good defense and a really good offense. They have a really really good offense this year and an average defense. Let's say I was going to give grades Kansas City Chiefs offense. Let's say I just said a B potential for a B plus. Their defense is an A. If I said the Ravens offense I'll give you an A, but that defense, I'm probably giving you a C minus the defensive backs. The secondary not good. And you normally think of the Ravens they run the football and they play great defense. Well, they are running the football, they're really passing the football a whole lot more. But the defense not holding up its end of the bargain. Now, let's get to the end, because yes, would've gone for two. Yes, I would have because your defense is getting you know, roughed up.

Come on, Oh, I just found out the calendars are available at Danpatrick dot com. These are takeoffs on sports movie posters. The calendars might be the best. I think they are the best ones that we've ever done. Twenty twenty five calendars available just in time for the holidays. Go to Danpatrick dot com and we will have some autograph ones in there. But everything is well. Supplies last, the moonshine everything that we do. It's usual while supplies last. The calendars awesome. So go to Danpatrick dot com and you can place your order. The Ravens holding off the Bengals thirty five thirty four, it's weird to have at least for me an opinion on both teams and have a negative opinion on both teams after a game like that, because with the Bengals, they don't have defense, and it is rearing its ugly head here. They do have offense. The Ravens have offense, but they don't have defense. Now, for one, I'm thinking about just getting into the playoffs. The Bengals the Ravens. I'm thinking about bigger picture winning a super Bowl. They're not going to win a super Bowl this way. You know, you're barely scraping by Cincinnati. And Cincinnati is a good team. They don't have a good record. They can put up points, and both of these quarterbacks look wonderful last night. But I'm looking at the Ravens bigger picture because we saw the playoff version of the Ravens last year, and they were great last year. I mean, they had a really good defense and a really good offense. They have a really really good offense this year and an average defense. Let's say I was going to give grades Kansas City Chiefs offense. Let's say I just said a B potential for a B plus. Their defense is an A. If I said the Ravens offense I'll give you an A, but that defense, I'm probably giving you a C minus the defensive backs. The secondary not good. And you normally think of the Ravens they run the football and they play great defense. Well, they are running the football, they're really passing the football a whole lot more. But the defense not holding up its end of the bargain. Now, let's get to the end, because yes, would've gone for two. Yes, I would have because your defense is getting you know, roughed up.

Second half. You guys got exposed. Go for it.

Second half. You guys got exposed. Go for it.

You're on the road, go for the win. And I had no problem with it. The problem I had that there were a couple of penalties on that two point conversion. Certainly they hit to I mean you could have called two penalties on Burrow. He got hit after the play and you got hit in the face, in the face mask. You want to call holding, Okay, I mean there's going to be holding on those plays. It's like a hail Mary. If you want to call it, you can that play. Was it egregious? I had more of a problem that the tight end didn't go deeper into the end zone. You know, the Ravens did a good job in kind of pushing him back a little bit. And therefore, even if he caught the pass, I don't think he gets the two point conversion.

You're on the road, go for the win. And I had no problem with it. The problem I had that there were a couple of penalties on that two point conversion. Certainly they hit to I mean you could have called two penalties on Burrow. He got hit after the play and you got hit in the face, in the face mask. You want to call holding, Okay, I mean there's going to be holding on those plays. It's like a hail Mary. If you want to call it, you can that play. Was it egregious? I had more of a problem that the tight end didn't go deeper into the end zone. You know, the Ravens did a good job in kind of pushing him back a little bit. And therefore, even if he caught the pass, I don't think he gets the two point conversion.

But that was a old.

But that was a old.

Fashioned shootout against two teams that don't like each other very I don't know if teams like each other. You know when we say they don't like each other. I don't know how many times you see a game and you go, you know, those two teams like each other.

Fashioned shootout against two teams that don't like each other very I don't know if teams like each other. You know when we say they don't like each other. I don't know how many times you see a game and you go, you know, those two teams like each other.

Yes, I would say to the flip side, I don't know how many teams hate each.

Yes, I would say to the flip side, I don't know how many teams hate each.

Other anymore, But do you like each other?

Other anymore, But do you like each other?

Maybe maybe hate is too strong, But is like too strong a word? Like these two don't like each other. Okay historically yes, but like the Ravens and the Steelers hate each other.

Maybe maybe hate is too strong, But is like too strong a word? Like these two don't like each other. Okay historically yes, but like the Ravens and the Steelers hate each other.

I bet Jamar Chase and Lamar Jackson are pretty cool actually.

I bet Jamar Chase and Lamar Jackson are pretty cool actually.

After last night.

After last night.

Yeah, Jamar Chase had eleven receptions, two hundred and sixty four yards and three touchdowns, So he's the first player in league history to have multiple games with at least two hundred and fifty receiving yards and three receiving touchdowns. Stat of the Day stat of the day, That beast stat of the day stat of the.

Yeah, Jamar Chase had eleven receptions, two hundred and sixty four yards and three touchdowns, So he's the first player in league history to have multiple games with at least two hundred and fifty receiving yards and three receiving touchdowns. Stat of the Day stat of the day, That beast stat of the day stat of the.

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You know, Chase had one of those games where you go, boy, that's right, he's right there. Now we talk about Justin Jefferson, there there's a few wide receivers where there's nobody in Justin Jefferson's category, I don't think, but Jamar Chase can be in that category. What he did against Baltimore. He had four hundred and fifty seven receiving yards in two games against Baltimore this year, four hundred and fifty seven. That is an NFL record for one player against another team in a single season, and he beat the previous record by thirty yards. And there are times when you watch and you go, boy, he makes it look easy. Now, Baltimore's secondary certainly assisted in that, but when Burrow and Jamar Chase are on, they are as good, probably better than any other combination in football.

You know, Chase had one of those games where you go, boy, that's right, he's right there. Now we talk about Justin Jefferson, there there's a few wide receivers where there's nobody in Justin Jefferson's category, I don't think, but Jamar Chase can be in that category. What he did against Baltimore. He had four hundred and fifty seven receiving yards in two games against Baltimore this year, four hundred and fifty seven. That is an NFL record for one player against another team in a single season, and he beat the previous record by thirty yards. And there are times when you watch and you go, boy, he makes it look easy. Now, Baltimore's secondary certainly assisted in that, but when Burrow and Jamar Chase are on, they are as good, probably better than any other combination in football.

Yes, Mark Joe Burrow through to Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase on the same team. Yeah, crazy, that sounds that is the great his college offense ever.

Yes, Mark Joe Burrow through to Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase on the same team. Yeah, crazy, that sounds that is the great his college offense ever.

That's why he had sixty touchdown passes that that final year at LSU. And then you have Lamar Jackson like, oh, by the way, with Lamar Jackson, another great performance. And what he does is he beats the Cincinnati Bengals. I think he's lost one one time to the Cincinnati Bengals. And the other thing is he's not getting hit when you drop back to pass. And we've seen this where you're gonna and Burrow got hit last night. He got hit a lot. I think Lamar Jackson got hit once, So Burrow got hit twelve times. Lamar Jackson, coming into last night's game had been hit nineteen times on dropbacks this season total, So let's make that twenty twenty hits on him. Among the quarterbacks who have at least one hundred and fifty dropbacks this season, the only guy who has been hit in the pocket fewer times is a fellow MVP candidate, Josh Allen was sixteen.

That's why he had sixty touchdown passes that that final year at LSU. And then you have Lamar Jackson like, oh, by the way, with Lamar Jackson, another great performance. And what he does is he beats the Cincinnati Bengals. I think he's lost one one time to the Cincinnati Bengals. And the other thing is he's not getting hit when you drop back to pass. And we've seen this where you're gonna and Burrow got hit last night. He got hit a lot. I think Lamar Jackson got hit once, So Burrow got hit twelve times. Lamar Jackson, coming into last night's game had been hit nineteen times on dropbacks this season total, So let's make that twenty twenty hits on him. Among the quarterbacks who have at least one hundred and fifty dropbacks this season, the only guy who has been hit in the pocket fewer times is a fellow MVP candidate, Josh Allen was sixteen.

Whoo how stall of a day? Stand to day? Stantata day, Stannata day. This is the stant of the day. Now.

Whoo how stall of a day? Stand to day? Stantata day, Stannata day. This is the stant of the day. Now.

By comparison, Geno Smith has been hit sixty two times, Deshaun Watson fifty seven times, c J. Stroud forty nine times, Aaron Rodgers forty nine times, Kirk Cousins forty eight times. This is crazy Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen getting the protection and those are your two leading candidates for MVP now, and I'm gonna throw Jared goff In there as well. But Lamar Jackson is putting up better numbers than last year. And once again, I hope that the voters don't do this. I hope they don't hold the postseason against Lamar Jackson for what he's doing in the regular season to say yes, but now I can do that to the team. I'm not going to do that for a regular season award with Lamar Jackson. Remember when he couldn't throw, Remember he was one dimensional. We weren't quite sure. You saw him at Louisville Highlights and we wondered, well, you don't have to throw the same way. It has to get there. It's like golf swings. If you look at Jim Furicks swing, you'd go he can't be a good golfer. We he's a Hall of Famer. Not everybody's going to look like Ernie Else when he swings the golf club. Not everybody's going to look like Joe Montana or Tom Brady's. It needs to get from here to there. That's it doesn't matter. Now you can say, well side arm if you're shorter gets knocked down. I understand all of that. Lamar Jackson doesn't have that wow look at that throw or the form of look at that throw, but he gets it from A to B and he's done extremely well with that. You have the threat of him running, not as much as in previous years because you have Derrick Henry. It's they have to score just about You're got to score at least thirty points.

By comparison, Geno Smith has been hit sixty two times, Deshaun Watson fifty seven times, c J. Stroud forty nine times, Aaron Rodgers forty nine times, Kirk Cousins forty eight times. This is crazy Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen getting the protection and those are your two leading candidates for MVP now, and I'm gonna throw Jared goff In there as well. But Lamar Jackson is putting up better numbers than last year. And once again, I hope that the voters don't do this. I hope they don't hold the postseason against Lamar Jackson for what he's doing in the regular season to say yes, but now I can do that to the team. I'm not going to do that for a regular season award with Lamar Jackson. Remember when he couldn't throw, Remember he was one dimensional. We weren't quite sure. You saw him at Louisville Highlights and we wondered, well, you don't have to throw the same way. It has to get there. It's like golf swings. If you look at Jim Furicks swing, you'd go he can't be a good golfer. We he's a Hall of Famer. Not everybody's going to look like Ernie Else when he swings the golf club. Not everybody's going to look like Joe Montana or Tom Brady's. It needs to get from here to there. That's it doesn't matter. Now you can say, well side arm if you're shorter gets knocked down. I understand all of that. Lamar Jackson doesn't have that wow look at that throw or the form of look at that throw, but he gets it from A to B and he's done extremely well with that. You have the threat of him running, not as much as in previous years because you have Derrick Henry. It's they have to score just about You're got to score at least thirty points.

And that's where I go.

And that's where I go.

The negative part of this is if you faced Kansas City today. Let's say the Ravens played Kansas City today AFC Title Game and it's probably going to be in Kansas City. They couldn't put them away in Baltimore last year. Who were you taking?

The negative part of this is if you faced Kansas City today. Let's say the Ravens played Kansas City today AFC Title Game and it's probably going to be in Kansas City. They couldn't put them away in Baltimore last year. Who were you taking?

You're taking Kansas City now.

You're taking Kansas City now.

Paulie likes to say, between those two, whoever has the ball last, That's probably who I'm taking. I would take Kansas City over Baltimore because I feel like I have a complete team and the offense isn't as good as Baltimore's, but that defense is a whole lot better. And it comes to postseason, it's defense making plays or not making plays. And if you throw in the element of Mahomes has been there and done this before, I would And I don't know what the odds the number would be. Can we check with Vegas or DraftKings. Let's say AFC Title game today, Kansas City Baltimore in Kansas City. I gotta believe Kansas City would be three and a half point favorite.

Paulie likes to say, between those two, whoever has the ball last, That's probably who I'm taking. I would take Kansas City over Baltimore because I feel like I have a complete team and the offense isn't as good as Baltimore's, but that defense is a whole lot better. And it comes to postseason, it's defense making plays or not making plays. And if you throw in the element of Mahomes has been there and done this before, I would And I don't know what the odds the number would be. Can we check with Vegas or DraftKings. Let's say AFC Title game today, Kansas City Baltimore in Kansas City. I gotta believe Kansas City would be three and a half point favorite.

Yes, Marvin, And even if the Ravens had the ball last, Chris Jones on the other side of the ball, Yes, and he's going to make a play.

Yes, Marvin, And even if the Ravens had the ball last, Chris Jones on the other side of the ball, Yes, and he's going to make a play.

Chris Jones.

Chris Jones.

He's not the equivalent of Patrick Mahomes, but he is the that guy's on the field and he'll probably make a play. And that's how we assess Patrick Mahomes. So here is the call of the Ravens stopping the two point conversion last night.

He's not the equivalent of Patrick Mahomes, but he is the that guy's on the field and he'll probably make a play. And that's how we assess Patrick Mahomes. So here is the call of the Ravens stopping the two point conversion last night.

Burrow takes the snap, Ravens brings Bliss pressure, Burrow throws at the end zone.

Burrow takes the snap, Ravens brings Bliss pressure, Burrow throws at the end zone.

It's in complete.

It's in complete.

It's in complete and with thirty eight seconds left the play by Hazel Lebarno. What a wild way end to night as the Ravens will sweep the series from the Bengals and improved just seven and three.

It's in complete and with thirty eight seconds left the play by Hazel Lebarno. What a wild way end to night as the Ravens will sweep the series from the Bengals and improved just seven and three.

The Hey he is in the Barn ninety eight Rock Ravens Radio Network. Here's Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow.

The Hey he is in the Barn ninety eight Rock Ravens Radio Network. Here's Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow.

He's gonna make the opportunities that are there, make the plays. You know, we did in spots and we didn't in spots tonight, and that's the story of our season. So Dean, I'm going to do everything in my power to continue to be ready for the opportunities that come, try to take advantage of them.

He's gonna make the opportunities that are there, make the plays. You know, we did in spots and we didn't in spots tonight, and that's the story of our season. So Dean, I'm going to do everything in my power to continue to be ready for the opportunities that come, try to take advantage of them.

I'm not done done on the Bengals.

I'm not done done on the Bengals.

Now.

Now.

I think they got the Chargers in LA coming up. They got the Steelers a couple of times. They but you know you're looking for a wild card spot. Are they better than the Broncos. Yes, but the Broncos have a better record. Can they get to.

I think they got the Chargers in LA coming up. They got the Steelers a couple of times. They but you know you're looking for a wild card spot. Are they better than the Broncos. Yes, but the Broncos have a better record. Can they get to.

Nine wins?

Nine wins?

Nine wins might do it in the AMC, So you have to have five wins in seven games, very very small margin for era. I think the end they end the season against the Steelers, Steelers would love nothing better than to bounce them.

Nine wins might do it in the AMC, So you have to have five wins in seven games, very very small margin for era. I think the end they end the season against the Steelers, Steelers would love nothing better than to bounce them.

Those two teams don't like each other. Yes, Pony, it.

Those two teams don't like each other. Yes, Pony, it.

Would be great if that were for the wild card spot. But your Bengals have Chargers, Steelers, then they get Cowboys, Titans, Browns, Broncos some winnable December.

Would be great if that were for the wild card spot. But your Bengals have Chargers, Steelers, then they get Cowboys, Titans, Browns, Broncos some winnable December.

The call so they don't end the season with the Steelers.

The call so they don't end the season with the Steelers.

You have the Steelers to on January fifth, Okay and the whole thing.

You have the Steelers to on January fifth, Okay and the whole thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

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We make way for Dominique Foxworth, ESPN writer, commentator and also he's got his own podcast and he contributes to Get Up. Former NFL player, grew up in Baltimore, University of Maryland. Probably still Ravens fans, so maybe his opinion is slanted a little bit here.

We make way for Dominique Foxworth, ESPN writer, commentator and also he's got his own podcast and he contributes to Get Up. Former NFL player, grew up in Baltimore, University of Maryland. Probably still Ravens fans, so maybe his opinion is slanted a little bit here.

Dominie's first of all, Dan, thanks for having me. I'm not still a very fan because I never was a Ravens fan. They didn't get a team there until I was like fourteen, and by then I was trying to get a scholarship and get some girls to like me. It's too late to become a fan when you're like fourteen, right, I'm in ninth grade.

Dominie's first of all, Dan, thanks for having me. I'm not still a very fan because I never was a Ravens fan. They didn't get a team there until I was like fourteen, and by then I was trying to get a scholarship and get some girls to like me. It's too late to become a fan when you're like fourteen, right, I'm in ninth grade.

Who did you grow up liking?

Who did you grow up liking?

I just love football. I was a big Barry Sanders fan. One of my best friends was a Cowboys fan, so then of course I had the root for forty nine ers and Jerry Rice. So yeah, I didn't really have a team. And when you're I don't know if anybody else can relate, But we had Washington had a team, but we're Baltimore, so we're close enough to Washington to hate them and be far enough away that you can't actually consider that your team, so like you root against them, and ironically I live in DC.

I just love football. I was a big Barry Sanders fan. One of my best friends was a Cowboys fan, so then of course I had the root for forty nine ers and Jerry Rice. So yeah, I didn't really have a team. And when you're I don't know if anybody else can relate, But we had Washington had a team, but we're Baltimore, so we're close enough to Washington to hate them and be far enough away that you can't actually consider that your team, so like you root against them, and ironically I live in DC.

Now, okay, give me the headline. What is the headline after last night's game? And should there be a different headline from last night's game?

Now, okay, give me the headline. What is the headline after last night's game? And should there be a different headline from last night's game?

So I think the headline from last night's game is probably some weird pun on Lamar's name. It's probably at the top headline because that's what that game really felt like it was about. And honestly, I watch a lot of film and try to analyze the like schematic decisions in all these games, and I'm not rewatching last night's coaches film because it wasn't about scheme. It was about Jamar Chase being better than everybody on the field, Lamar Jackson being better than everybody on the field. And I think the next headline would probably be about the Ravens defense might cost them a shot at the Super Bowl.

So I think the headline from last night's game is probably some weird pun on Lamar's name. It's probably at the top headline because that's what that game really felt like it was about. And honestly, I watch a lot of film and try to analyze the like schematic decisions in all these games, and I'm not rewatching last night's coaches film because it wasn't about scheme. It was about Jamar Chase being better than everybody on the field, Lamar Jackson being better than everybody on the field. And I think the next headline would probably be about the Ravens defense might cost them a shot at the Super Bowl.

Yeah, that's what I was wondering, because I can come away with a not negative angles on this. But with the Bengals, they lose another close game and I thought that they were going to win that game last night, and then I look at the Ravens and I have to look at a bigger picture. So I'm going to extrapolate and go, what's this mean for them? Bigger picture? Can they beat Kansas City in Kansas City in January?

Yeah, that's what I was wondering, because I can come away with a not negative angles on this. But with the Bengals, they lose another close game and I thought that they were going to win that game last night, and then I look at the Ravens and I have to look at a bigger picture. So I'm going to extrapolate and go, what's this mean for them? Bigger picture? Can they beat Kansas City in Kansas City in January?

It depends on the week. You talked to me a couple weeks ago. I would have said yes. Then you see what d Hop is doing there, and you see how poor this defense is play and it feels like a no. And if they win. I mean, the Ravens offense is so impressive this season that it's possible that they could score on every drive, and that seems like that's what they're gonna have to do to beat anybody in the playoffs. Right now, this defense is a problem. And it's weird because they have so many big names and players that we know to be good, from Mattabik to Smith to Hamilton's out with the ankle and Humphrey. But then you get out there and it's just they can't get pressure. That's when it comes down. They can't get pressure. The simulated pressures that they use to trick people early in the season and last season they're not working. And they've had quite a brain drain there from the decordinator to I think Denard Wilson was probably the next best coach on that on that team, and he's moved on to be a very good, seems like defensive coordinator down to Tennessee. So I think that's really hurting them.

It depends on the week. You talked to me a couple weeks ago. I would have said yes. Then you see what d Hop is doing there, and you see how poor this defense is play and it feels like a no. And if they win. I mean, the Ravens offense is so impressive this season that it's possible that they could score on every drive, and that seems like that's what they're gonna have to do to beat anybody in the playoffs. Right now, this defense is a problem. And it's weird because they have so many big names and players that we know to be good, from Mattabik to Smith to Hamilton's out with the ankle and Humphrey. But then you get out there and it's just they can't get pressure. That's when it comes down. They can't get pressure. The simulated pressures that they use to trick people early in the season and last season they're not working. And they've had quite a brain drain there from the decordinator to I think Denard Wilson was probably the next best coach on that on that team, and he's moved on to be a very good, seems like defensive coordinator down to Tennessee. So I think that's really hurting them.

Also, Okay, you played the game final two minutes there? Do you want you want everything called?

Also, Okay, you played the game final two minutes there? Do you want you want everything called?

There? You know there was holding on that two point conversion. Burrow got hit in the face mask there, Like, you know, how do you guys, how how do you want it called?

There? You know there was holding on that two point conversion. Burrow got hit in the face mask there, Like, you know, how do you guys, how how do you want it called?

Yeah?

Yeah?

I mean, I think you nailed it off the top with the biases. Whatever team I'm on, I'm creating a rationale around that. But honestly, if I am a coach and if I'm a leader on one of those teams, shut the hell up and play man like. That's what it comes down to for us is normally those calls I feel like complaining about the referees is also like complaining about the weather. It's like it's not your control, yet it's going to impact the game. There was a holding call on the Ravens on that fourth and two earlier in the game that I thought was a little TICKI tac. It sucks when you're on the wrong end of those, but it just kind of happens. And neither of those felt like egregious at the end, which I know is not a consolation to anybody who wanted the Bengals to win. But that little tap on a face masks a defensive player, that's ridiculous, Like, I never think that should be called. Ever when someone gets their face a quarterback gets his face mask grazed after he's release the ball.

I mean, I think you nailed it off the top with the biases. Whatever team I'm on, I'm creating a rationale around that. But honestly, if I am a coach and if I'm a leader on one of those teams, shut the hell up and play man like. That's what it comes down to for us is normally those calls I feel like complaining about the referees is also like complaining about the weather. It's like it's not your control, yet it's going to impact the game. There was a holding call on the Ravens on that fourth and two earlier in the game that I thought was a little TICKI tac. It sucks when you're on the wrong end of those, but it just kind of happens. And neither of those felt like egregious at the end, which I know is not a consolation to anybody who wanted the Bengals to win. But that little tap on a face masks a defensive player, that's ridiculous, Like, I never think that should be called. Ever when someone gets their face a quarterback gets his face mask grazed after he's release the ball.

Oh wait, do you think Mahomes gets that call?

Oh wait, do you think Mahomes gets that call?

Probably? Okay, okay, yeah, all right, the rules are a little different for certain But why, I mean, I think that we're human, the refs are human. You're influenced by those things. I think the reason why they called that holding on Jamar Chase early in the game that I thought on Stevens that I didn't think was a real call was because it's Jamar Chase and they expect Jamar Chase to be open, and he's not wide open. There must be something.

Probably? Okay, okay, yeah, all right, the rules are a little different for certain But why, I mean, I think that we're human, the refs are human. You're influenced by those things. I think the reason why they called that holding on Jamar Chase early in the game that I thought on Stevens that I didn't think was a real call was because it's Jamar Chase and they expect Jamar Chase to be open, and he's not wide open. There must be something.

Wrong when it comes to MVP. And I've been on this campaign on this soapbox. I hope they don't hold what Lamar Jackson doesn't do in the playoffs against him during the regular season, because you know we're gonna get there, We're gonna go, You're gonna give Lamar another MVP. And he's like, I don't remember them ever saying that about Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning or farv. It just it feels like we're so postseason content of what we do in the regular season, you know, the joker in the NBA, it felt like, uh, he's got to win. Okay, then he won. Now, Yannis, He's got to win. Then he won. Now people are like, why did Inbiid get the MVP? You know, he like, it's weird how we do that. And I hope that the voters don't do that with Lamar this year. If he is the MVP, he's the MVP, and it's called the regular season MVP.

Wrong when it comes to MVP. And I've been on this campaign on this soapbox. I hope they don't hold what Lamar Jackson doesn't do in the playoffs against him during the regular season, because you know we're gonna get there, We're gonna go, You're gonna give Lamar another MVP. And he's like, I don't remember them ever saying that about Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning or farv. It just it feels like we're so postseason content of what we do in the regular season, you know, the joker in the NBA, it felt like, uh, he's got to win. Okay, then he won. Now, Yannis, He's got to win. Then he won. Now people are like, why did Inbiid get the MVP? You know, he like, it's weird how we do that. And I hope that the voters don't do that with Lamar this year. If he is the MVP, he's the MVP, and it's called the regular season MVP.

We wanted to match up because these are the only things, as we get further from history, the only things that we can point to is like who won MVP, who won the Super Bowl, and so we wanted to match up. We want the MVPs to also be the guys who dominated the playoffs, and you're right, it influences the way that we appreciate their their following seasons. And Lamar has to do it in the playoffs obviously, but when you are playing the way he is playing this year, there really is There's no question that he's the MVP of the league right now. He's making it such that all the important important passing category he's number one in and then he does ridiculous things like he did last night on the sideline in the red zone to make plays that or make yeah, make plays that allow them to win, that go far beyond coaching or any talent of the players around him.

We wanted to match up because these are the only things, as we get further from history, the only things that we can point to is like who won MVP, who won the Super Bowl, and so we wanted to match up. We want the MVPs to also be the guys who dominated the playoffs, and you're right, it influences the way that we appreciate their their following seasons. And Lamar has to do it in the playoffs obviously, but when you are playing the way he is playing this year, there really is There's no question that he's the MVP of the league right now. He's making it such that all the important important passing category he's number one in and then he does ridiculous things like he did last night on the sideline in the red zone to make plays that or make yeah, make plays that allow them to win, that go far beyond coaching or any talent of the players around him.

We're talking to Dominique Funksworth, ESPN writer and commentaryor you can see him on Get Up.

We're talking to Dominique Funksworth, ESPN writer and commentaryor you can see him on Get Up.

He has his own podcast.

He has his own podcast.

The biggest reason I want to have you on is I think you brought this up maybe on Monday, that you felt like Buffalo Bill's players were easing up on Tua, as if to consciously say we don't want to end his career.

The biggest reason I want to have you on is I think you brought this up maybe on Monday, that you felt like Buffalo Bill's players were easing up on Tua, as if to consciously say we don't want to end his career.

How did you come to that conclusion?

How did you come to that conclusion?

It was just watching the game and it popped into my head when I saw it on that fourth down, and also when I saw it on one of the past rushing attempts, And it wasn't like a completely prevalent thing, but it looked odd to me, and maybe I was out there looking for it because we all were kind of nervous watching to a play. And it shocked me because that's not the mentality I would have had, or the mentality any player that I've played with would have ever had. And I could be wrong. I'm sure no Bills players would step up and say that, and I imagine that Tua did not experience it that way. But when I was watching the game, particularly that fourth down went to a dove for the first down, an important moment. That's a play that you normally meet him head to head right there. So I'm not passing any judgment one way to other. But that was the way that I experienced that game, and it shocks me.

It was just watching the game and it popped into my head when I saw it on that fourth down, and also when I saw it on one of the past rushing attempts, And it wasn't like a completely prevalent thing, but it looked odd to me, and maybe I was out there looking for it because we all were kind of nervous watching to a play. And it shocked me because that's not the mentality I would have had, or the mentality any player that I've played with would have ever had. And I could be wrong. I'm sure no Bills players would step up and say that, and I imagine that Tua did not experience it that way. But when I was watching the game, particularly that fourth down went to a dove for the first down, an important moment. That's a play that you normally meet him head to head right there. So I'm not passing any judgment one way to other. But that was the way that I experienced that game, and it shocks me.

But did you ever ease up on somebody for any reason?

But did you ever ease up on somebody for any reason?

Hell No, Like never. I had one play where Eddie Royal I think eased up on me. He was a receiver. For the Broncos and Jay Cutler was scrambling. He scrambled left and then he came back right and instead of hitting me in the head on the blind side block, which was legal back then, Eddie hit me in the chest. So I was awake when I got up and coughed up some blood I had, and I thanked Eddie. I got traded from the Broncos earlier in that season, so we were teammates, and I was like, I appreciate it because he could have knocked me out, but instead he bruised my lung or something. I don't know what he did.

Hell No, Like never. I had one play where Eddie Royal I think eased up on me. He was a receiver. For the Broncos and Jay Cutler was scrambling. He scrambled left and then he came back right and instead of hitting me in the head on the blind side block, which was legal back then, Eddie hit me in the chest. So I was awake when I got up and coughed up some blood I had, and I thanked Eddie. I got traded from the Broncos earlier in that season, so we were teammates, and I was like, I appreciate it because he could have knocked me out, but instead he bruised my lung or something. I don't know what he did.

Who's the guy that you faced where you went? This isn't fair, this guy is I'm sorry.

Who's the guy that you faced where you went? This isn't fair, this guy is I'm sorry.

I'm sorry to finished the question, but it's an easy one. It's a question that I get often. And the funny thing is I in my career, I always liked the big, fast, long strider receivers like Randy Moss. I was like, I played well against them. The guys I struggled more with was like the quick change the direction guys. But Randy was just special man. It was it was always a task like I played well against to and those bigger guys.

I'm sorry to finished the question, but it's an easy one. It's a question that I get often. And the funny thing is I in my career, I always liked the big, fast, long strider receivers like Randy Moss. I was like, I played well against them. The guys I struggled more with was like the quick change the direction guys. But Randy was just special man. It was it was always a task like I played well against to and those bigger guys.

But Randy Nah, Randy's underrated.

But Randy Nah, Randy's underrated.

It's it's funny because my son I coached my son's flag football team and we're champions once again, which was nice. But it's funny that you say that. But these kids play a game called moss and it's like he is somewhat underrated, but he is also like kind of the prototype when we talk about a receiver. Everyone's the way that we years ago would compare people to. Rice Mosta is the guy that everyone young kids compare.

It's it's funny because my son I coached my son's flag football team and we're champions once again, which was nice. But it's funny that you say that. But these kids play a game called moss and it's like he is somewhat underrated, but he is also like kind of the prototype when we talk about a receiver. Everyone's the way that we years ago would compare people to. Rice Mosta is the guy that everyone young kids compare.

To, who can do more damage in the postseason. The Steelers are the Commanders.

To, who can do more damage in the postseason. The Steelers are the Commanders.

Who I'm a sucker man. It's I want to give you some real smart, deep analysis. But the Commander's got a better quarterback, and I think the Marshawn ladder More acquisition means more. In the NFC, there's like a dearth of great quarterback play. Have a hard time imagining Russell Wilson going past Lamar and Alan and Mahomes. It's easier for me to see a situation where Daniels pulls off a few surprise victories in the playoffs.

Who I'm a sucker man. It's I want to give you some real smart, deep analysis. But the Commander's got a better quarterback, and I think the Marshawn ladder More acquisition means more. In the NFC, there's like a dearth of great quarterback play. Have a hard time imagining Russell Wilson going past Lamar and Alan and Mahomes. It's easier for me to see a situation where Daniels pulls off a few surprise victories in the playoffs.

Jared Golf's having a six game stretch that's the best we've seen in NFL history.

Jared Golf's having a six game stretch that's the best we've seen in NFL history.

But it's weird how he just sort of is there.

But it's weird how he just sort of is there.

And I liken it too, when you get traded and they throw in draft picks to get you out of town.

And I liken it too, when you get traded and they throw in draft picks to get you out of town.

I think that has stayed with Jared Goff. You got to the super Bowl.

I think that has stayed with Jared Goff. You got to the super Bowl.

With the Rams, but you didn't do anything, and it's almost like Sean McVay got you there, Like, how do you assess Jared Goff's career?

With the Rams, but you didn't do anything, and it's almost like Sean McVay got you there, Like, how do you assess Jared Goff's career?

I mean, it's similar to the questions you were asking earlier, where it's about perception, like about Lamar. It's the same sort of thing. Is we have to get over those biases that we have where someone is drafted is going to change the way that we feel about him. What they've done in the past is going to change the way we feel about him. And I think a lot of the criticism of Jared Goff, even in his success, is valid. Until last year's playoff run, he made the plays like he was making the plays even when some people were dropping him. He was making the plays that we expected. But what I don't want to do is pretend that he's more important to his team than some of these other quarterbacks that we're talking about. This is an offensive line driven team. Like this is Penne Seul is the MVP of that team.

I mean, it's similar to the questions you were asking earlier, where it's about perception, like about Lamar. It's the same sort of thing. Is we have to get over those biases that we have where someone is drafted is going to change the way that we feel about him. What they've done in the past is going to change the way we feel about him. And I think a lot of the criticism of Jared Goff, even in his success, is valid. Until last year's playoff run, he made the plays like he was making the plays even when some people were dropping him. He was making the plays that we expected. But what I don't want to do is pretend that he's more important to his team than some of these other quarterbacks that we're talking about. This is an offensive line driven team. Like this is Penne Seul is the MVP of that team.

That's interesting that you say that. Is there a most must win game of the weekend for you in the NFL? Like this team has to win this weekend.

That's interesting that you say that. Is there a most must win game of the weekend for you in the NFL? Like this team has to win this weekend.

That's a tough one. I mean, it would have been the Bengals because they want to stay in the hunt. It comes down to probably the Jets. It's you look around divisions, you know, Like that's the way that I think about it is like who's in a division. There are a lot of teams and divisions that they can they can survive without winning. The Jets are in a situation where they can't afford to lose anymore.

That's a tough one. I mean, it would have been the Bengals because they want to stay in the hunt. It comes down to probably the Jets. It's you look around divisions, you know, Like that's the way that I think about it is like who's in a division. There are a lot of teams and divisions that they can they can survive without winning. The Jets are in a situation where they can't afford to lose anymore.

But I think they might be that's against the Cardinals. Yeah, the Cardinals. Why isn't Trey Lance playing for the Cowboys?

But I think they might be that's against the Cardinals. Yeah, the Cardinals. Why isn't Trey Lance playing for the Cowboys?

My guess is that Trey Lance is very good. And you remember that draft and how unique the COVID situation was and where Trey came from in his play seven man football in high school and a small college. Like my guess is all the tools, like the Josh Allen era of quarterbacks where all coaches thought was you needed with tools and we can make you into something. This is one of the casualties. I feel like of the Josh Allen experiment working out, other coaches thought they could do it.

My guess is that Trey Lance is very good. And you remember that draft and how unique the COVID situation was and where Trey came from in his play seven man football in high school and a small college. Like my guess is all the tools, like the Josh Allen era of quarterbacks where all coaches thought was you needed with tools and we can make you into something. This is one of the casualties. I feel like of the Josh Allen experiment working out, other coaches thought they could do it.

Yeah, but you have Cooper Rush, who's what thirty one? You already know what you have. I just thought maybe the Cowboys give him a chance to play a little bit.

Yeah, but you have Cooper Rush, who's what thirty one? You already know what you have. I just thought maybe the Cowboys give him a chance to play a little bit.

Yeah, I don't think that's a terrible idea unless he's terrible. That's the thing is, like the players know, and there's some things you can't get away with. And my guess is the reason why the forty nine ers came up off of them despite all of what they put into it was in part because he's just not very good. I think the rest of the Cowboys, how do you scout and whiff that badly?

Yeah, I don't think that's a terrible idea unless he's terrible. That's the thing is, like the players know, and there's some things you can't get away with. And my guess is the reason why the forty nine ers came up off of them despite all of what they put into it was in part because he's just not very good. I think the rest of the Cowboys, how do you scout and whiff that badly?

It's a tough So that's the thing is.

It's a tough So that's the thing is.

I've been arguing on the side of and this is probably a broader conversation about analytics, but I've been arguing on the side of the Michael Pennocks draft pick despite the fact that everyone doesn't like it, and I argued for the Trey Lance draft pick also that that was the guy that you want to pick in part because these moves that look stupid in hindsight, like there are so many of them, but you have to do some stupid stuff to kind of crack the code. Like there's if you follow the traditional status quo, you will be amongst the pack. And of course the volatility of your decision goes up, so nine times out of ten, if you do something risky, you're gonna be wrong. But if you sincerely believe that you found some spot in there that other people haven't figured out, then that's how you have success. And that's the thing. Like we point to the running back situation, that's like the current version of it where everyone's like, you don't pay running backs. The reason why that rule exists is because some dumb general managers will overpay running backs. But it's not a hard and fast rule, you know, Like I think that absolutes are for children and dumb people, but smart people look and say, oh, eight million dollars for Derick Henry. Yeah, I take that, and I think that if there were if I had a choice between a shutdown corner or an unblockable pass rusher or all pro level running back, I go for the corner or the pass rusher. But they don't cost eight million dollars. So if I have that choice, then you go with the guy who's eight million dollars. We see Saquon and McCaffrey, Like, these are unique situations and being comfortable and that's why, like these are decisions are often made by coaches that are in have security or teams have security because these are unique situations.

I've been arguing on the side of and this is probably a broader conversation about analytics, but I've been arguing on the side of the Michael Pennocks draft pick despite the fact that everyone doesn't like it, and I argued for the Trey Lance draft pick also that that was the guy that you want to pick in part because these moves that look stupid in hindsight, like there are so many of them, but you have to do some stupid stuff to kind of crack the code. Like there's if you follow the traditional status quo, you will be amongst the pack. And of course the volatility of your decision goes up, so nine times out of ten, if you do something risky, you're gonna be wrong. But if you sincerely believe that you found some spot in there that other people haven't figured out, then that's how you have success. And that's the thing. Like we point to the running back situation, that's like the current version of it where everyone's like, you don't pay running backs. The reason why that rule exists is because some dumb general managers will overpay running backs. But it's not a hard and fast rule, you know, Like I think that absolutes are for children and dumb people, but smart people look and say, oh, eight million dollars for Derick Henry. Yeah, I take that, and I think that if there were if I had a choice between a shutdown corner or an unblockable pass rusher or all pro level running back, I go for the corner or the pass rusher. But they don't cost eight million dollars. So if I have that choice, then you go with the guy who's eight million dollars. We see Saquon and McCaffrey, Like, these are unique situations and being comfortable and that's why, like these are decisions are often made by coaches that are in have security or teams have security because these are unique situations.

Well, the Chiefs they cracked the code. They had Alex Smith and they draft Patrick Mahomes. The forty nine ers had Alex Smith, they took Colin Kaepernick. Like you, but exactly, I don't like when you can get a guy and you don't have to trade up to get the guy. So when you spend, you want to take a risk up top, okay, but don't compound it by saying, and we're gonna give you, you know, first round picks here.

Well, the Chiefs they cracked the code. They had Alex Smith and they draft Patrick Mahomes. The forty nine ers had Alex Smith, they took Colin Kaepernick. Like you, but exactly, I don't like when you can get a guy and you don't have to trade up to get the guy. So when you spend, you want to take a risk up top, okay, but don't compound it by saying, and we're gonna give you, you know, first round picks here.

Then I have a problem with cracking the code.

Then I have a problem with cracking the code.

And in less in less, Trey Lance was Lamar Jackson. Like that's the thing is football is a risky ass game.

And in less in less, Trey Lance was Lamar Jackson. Like that's the thing is football is a risky ass game.

But you didn't have to go up and get Lamar Jackson. He fell in the Ravens lap.

But you didn't have to go up and get Lamar Jackson. He fell in the Ravens lap.

But wouldn't you have gone up and gotten Lamar Jackson if you could, I guess I get your point. It's it's a high risk maneuver. I get it, and I think you're right.

But wouldn't you have gone up and gotten Lamar Jackson if you could, I guess I get your point. It's it's a high risk maneuver. I get it, and I think you're right.

I know people got caught up with Lamar and they go, ah, he can run, but Kenny throw. And my point is, and you would know better. As a defensive back, I need to get from A to B. I don't have to look. You know, Jim Furix's golf swing is ugly. He's a Hall of Famer, and that's you know, it doesn't have to look like Dan Marino. It has to act like Dan Marino, and getting it from A to B is what he's done.

I know people got caught up with Lamar and they go, ah, he can run, but Kenny throw. And my point is, and you would know better. As a defensive back, I need to get from A to B. I don't have to look. You know, Jim Furix's golf swing is ugly. He's a Hall of Famer, and that's you know, it doesn't have to look like Dan Marino. It has to act like Dan Marino, and getting it from A to B is what he's done.

You're right.

You're right.

I mean, I don't disagree with you, and I can't argue with the numbers when it comes to making decisions like it never really pays off to cobble together picks and move up like you see Michael Parson's falls of mind is a great player who falls to you. I think you're right generally, and I think generally it's more advantageous to throw the ball than it is to run the ball. However, there are situations where you have to go against the status quo and maybe these decisions. And I guess from my perspective, the person that I imagine that I am, and the type of general managerer coach that I imagine I would be would be one who's not sitting back hoping the odds work for me. One who plays the odds as much as possible until I see an opportunity, and then I say, ah, this is my spot. We're going all in because I'm not gonna go out like I just do what everyone said and it didn't work out for me. I'd rather be fired because they could point to the one risky decision I made and it didn't work out, or then I'm the greatest coach of all time because I figured out I cracked the code.

I mean, I don't disagree with you, and I can't argue with the numbers when it comes to making decisions like it never really pays off to cobble together picks and move up like you see Michael Parson's falls of mind is a great player who falls to you. I think you're right generally, and I think generally it's more advantageous to throw the ball than it is to run the ball. However, there are situations where you have to go against the status quo and maybe these decisions. And I guess from my perspective, the person that I imagine that I am, and the type of general managerer coach that I imagine I would be would be one who's not sitting back hoping the odds work for me. One who plays the odds as much as possible until I see an opportunity, and then I say, ah, this is my spot. We're going all in because I'm not gonna go out like I just do what everyone said and it didn't work out for me. I'd rather be fired because they could point to the one risky decision I made and it didn't work out, or then I'm the greatest coach of all time because I figured out I cracked the code.

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He's Dominique Foxworth, the in season football podcast three times a week, also contributor to ESPN's Cut Up.

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Which can I see happening more Bengals getting into a wild card or the Ravens winning the Super Bowl?

Which can I see happening more Bengals getting into a wild card or the Ravens winning the Super Bowl?

Right?

Right?

Now Bengals have about sixty percent of that vote. Oh okay, I'm a little surprised at that.

Now Bengals have about sixty percent of that vote. Oh okay, I'm a little surprised at that.

Well, winning the super Bowl is, yeah, but you're you're viewed as the second Actually, I.

Well, winning the super Bowl is, yeah, but you're you're viewed as the second Actually, I.

Can say that.

Can say that.

Okay, winning the Super Bowl is difficult to do, true, Right, I'm gonna have to have a little larger sample size on that. It looked into Jimmy Jimmerson there. You know what, maybe we get a little Jimmy Jimmerson on the Ravens chances to win the super Bowl.

Okay, winning the Super Bowl is difficult to do, true, Right, I'm gonna have to have a little larger sample size on that. It looked into Jimmy Jimmerson there. You know what, maybe we get a little Jimmy Jimmerson on the Ravens chances to win the super Bowl.

Right now, the Bengals are trying to figure out why their record is so terrible when they're playing this. Well, yeah, and winning the super Bowl is very difficult, thank you, Thank you, Jimmy. Yeah, and that could be making two point two seventy five million dollars a year doing you could.

Right now, the Bengals are trying to figure out why their record is so terrible when they're playing this. Well, yeah, and winning the super Bowl is very difficult, thank you, Thank you, Jimmy. Yeah, and that could be making two point two seventy five million dollars a year doing you could.

Get a job at ESPN. I might. I might by just being Jimmy Jimmerson being Yeah.

Get a job at ESPN. I might. I might by just being Jimmy Jimmerson being Yeah.

My sources are telling me the exact same thing that Adam Schefter's sources told him.

My sources are telling me the exact same thing that Adam Schefter's sources told him.

Jamar Chase had a night eleven receptions, two hundred and sixty four yards, and three touchdowns. He had four hundred and fifty seven receiving yards in two games against Baltimore this season, four hundred and fifty seven receiving yards.

Jamar Chase had a night eleven receptions, two hundred and sixty four yards, and three touchdowns. He had four hundred and fifty seven receiving yards in two games against Baltimore this season, four hundred and fifty seven receiving yards.

That's one of those.

That's one of those.

You're the secondary, you're the defensive coordinator, Dean piece, you know what's happening.

You're the secondary, you're the defensive coordinator, Dean piece, you know what's happening.

There's nothing you could do.

There's nothing you could do.

You can't go wow, didn't know that guy was that good. It's okay, Jamar's gonna get the ball. We got to make sure he doesn't get the ball that often, and when he does, he doesn't score touchdowns. But the big story was the officiating at the end of the game. Certainly here is Zach Taylor, Bengals head coach.

You can't go wow, didn't know that guy was that good. It's okay, Jamar's gonna get the ball. We got to make sure he doesn't get the ball that often, and when he does, he doesn't score touchdowns. But the big story was the officiating at the end of the game. Certainly here is Zach Taylor, Bengals head coach.

We got to find a way to close out these games. You know, we had our opportunity. We got down there, went for two and just didn't work out for us. But this team's going to continue to put us in good positions and there's going to be a point the season where that turns and we'll respond the right way. From this game, we got a one game season next week against the Chargers before the buye and so we'll get our bodies right and get ready to go fight them.

We got to find a way to close out these games. You know, we had our opportunity. We got down there, went for two and just didn't work out for us. But this team's going to continue to put us in good positions and there's going to be a point the season where that turns and we'll respond the right way. From this game, we got a one game season next week against the Chargers before the buye and so we'll get our bodies right and get ready to go fight them.

Yeah, you got Chargers, bye week, Steelers. You got Steelers twice in the last six or seven games of the season.

Yeah, you got Chargers, bye week, Steelers. You got Steelers twice in the last six or seven games of the season.

Dean Blandino.

Dean Blandino.

He's doing college and NFL games on Fox, including Colorado, Texas Tech and the Falcons in the Saints. Former head of officials for the NFL. You know, we only call you when somebody's upset about something, So thanks for joining us. Let's look at that play, that two point conversion. What do you see and was it called correctly?

He's doing college and NFL games on Fox, including Colorado, Texas Tech and the Falcons in the Saints. Former head of officials for the NFL. You know, we only call you when somebody's upset about something, So thanks for joining us. Let's look at that play, that two point conversion. What do you see and was it called correctly?

Well, no, it wasn't called correctly. You watch the contact on JASICKI, I mean he's held. And I went back and watched the coaches film the All twenty two and the back judge, who's in the middle of the field and actually standing on the endline, is responsible for that action. And the back judge actually reaches first flag, and there's a mechanic where you see the action, you see the hold, and then you find the football and if the ball is out somewhere else already, then then there's no flag because the theory is there's no impact on the play and the back just looked and Burrow was kind of in the in the process of throwing, and I think that's why he didn't throw the flag. But it's early enough where that's clearly a hole. It should have been called and then you go to the contact on Burrow. I mean it's it's forcible contact to the headneck area. There's no way, there's no way around it. Referee looks to be in good position, just just either felt it wasn't enough, didn't see it. But it's a foul and you know the Bengals should have had another shot at it.

Well, no, it wasn't called correctly. You watch the contact on JASICKI, I mean he's held. And I went back and watched the coaches film the All twenty two and the back judge, who's in the middle of the field and actually standing on the endline, is responsible for that action. And the back judge actually reaches first flag, and there's a mechanic where you see the action, you see the hold, and then you find the football and if the ball is out somewhere else already, then then there's no flag because the theory is there's no impact on the play and the back just looked and Burrow was kind of in the in the process of throwing, and I think that's why he didn't throw the flag. But it's early enough where that's clearly a hole. It should have been called and then you go to the contact on Burrow. I mean it's it's forcible contact to the headneck area. There's no way, there's no way around it. Referee looks to be in good position, just just either felt it wasn't enough, didn't see it. But it's a foul and you know the Bengals should have had another shot at it.

But ken officials do they Let's say, somebody sees it or can you gather can you get yeah, I mean, it doesn't happen very often, Dean, And I don't know if it's because of pride, professional pride of hey I didn't see it, or I mean I didn't see it that way, or you know, whatever it might be. I would think, collectively, we have to get this right. Whether you got it right or not, we do no.

But ken officials do they Let's say, somebody sees it or can you gather can you get yeah, I mean, it doesn't happen very often, Dean, And I don't know if it's because of pride, professional pride of hey I didn't see it, or I mean I didn't see it that way, or you know, whatever it might be. I would think, collectively, we have to get this right. Whether you got it right or not, we do no.

Doubt and pride goes out the window. They don't. Nobody wants the game to be officiated perfectly more than the officials. And we know perfections not a not a reasonable expectation. But yeah, they get together. You know the contact on Burrow, the umpire is the other official and in addition to the referee, who could see that and if there umpire sees it and says hey, yeah, I've got contact to the headneck area. Okay, great, let's let's drop a flag or if another official. I think at the goal line, you're going to have one set of eyes on each of those receivers, so there's going to be less help in that action. But yeah, absolutely you want them to get together. If somebody sees something a different way, okay, But.

Doubt and pride goes out the window. They don't. Nobody wants the game to be officiated perfectly more than the officials. And we know perfections not a not a reasonable expectation. But yeah, they get together. You know the contact on Burrow, the umpire is the other official and in addition to the referee, who could see that and if there umpire sees it and says hey, yeah, I've got contact to the headneck area. Okay, great, let's let's drop a flag or if another official. I think at the goal line, you're going to have one set of eyes on each of those receivers, so there's going to be less help in that action. But yeah, absolutely you want them to get together. If somebody sees something a different way, okay, But.

Do you see a point where we we start with the final two minutes where we're there's a you know, the eye in the sky is able to say, guys, you miss this, let's clean this up. Do we get to that point where this is what we're going to do, and let's say we just start out with the final two minutes.

Do you see a point where we we start with the final two minutes where we're there's a you know, the eye in the sky is able to say, guys, you miss this, let's clean this up. Do we get to that point where this is what we're going to do, and let's say we just start out with the final two minutes.

We're heading in that direction. Absolutely. You look at the couple weeks ago, right, Sam Donold Thursday night, we don't get the face mask in the end zone, big play safety. So yeah, we're headed in that direction. I think the Competition Committee has always taken a more measured approach, and right now there's some situations when there's a flag down, replay can assist. I think we're gonna see I don't know when, if it's next year, if it's three years, five years, we're gonna see somebody up there that's going to say, hey, and the last two minutes is a perfect, perfect starting place or is it scoring plays as the turnovers? Because officials aren't perfect. There's one hundred and fifty to one hundred and fifty five plays a game. Overwhelming number of decisions are correct, but there's four or five plays that really affect the outcome, that decide the outcome, and you got to be perfect on those plays, and a lot of them happen in the last two minutes. So yeah, it's a great starting place, and I think that'll be an off season discuss with the committee for sure.

We're heading in that direction. Absolutely. You look at the couple weeks ago, right, Sam Donold Thursday night, we don't get the face mask in the end zone, big play safety. So yeah, we're headed in that direction. I think the Competition Committee has always taken a more measured approach, and right now there's some situations when there's a flag down, replay can assist. I think we're gonna see I don't know when, if it's next year, if it's three years, five years, we're gonna see somebody up there that's going to say, hey, and the last two minutes is a perfect, perfect starting place or is it scoring plays as the turnovers? Because officials aren't perfect. There's one hundred and fifty to one hundred and fifty five plays a game. Overwhelming number of decisions are correct, but there's four or five plays that really affect the outcome, that decide the outcome, and you got to be perfect on those plays, and a lot of them happen in the last two minutes. So yeah, it's a great starting place, and I think that'll be an off season discuss with the committee for sure.

I never understood this with the NBA that the star players would get calls or the benefit of the doubt, because I always thought they're the stars, they don't need the benefit of the doubt. It's the guy who's the ninth man on the bench. Does Mahomes gets, you know, preferential treatment because he's Patrick Mahomes. Did Brady get preferential treatment because he was Tom Brady?

I never understood this with the NBA that the star players would get calls or the benefit of the doubt, because I always thought they're the stars, they don't need the benefit of the doubt. It's the guy who's the ninth man on the bench. Does Mahomes gets, you know, preferential treatment because he's Patrick Mahomes. Did Brady get preferential treatment because he was Tom Brady?

And if so, why?

And if so, why?

I think that's a perception. I really do high profile. Look, Tom Brady probably the greatest of all time. Patrick Mahomes on his way there. So there's going to be more eyeballs, there's going to be more attention, whether they get the call they don't. But when you look at the numbers, and I don't know the numbers this year, but whenever we did that, whenever we did a deep dive, it wasn't that Tom Brady's or the Peyton Mannings, you know, or the Patrick Mahomes that were getting all the calls. It was more even imbalanced. And you know, look, there's kind of this perception that Joe Burrow doesn't get at those calls.

I think that's a perception. I really do high profile. Look, Tom Brady probably the greatest of all time. Patrick Mahomes on his way there. So there's going to be more eyeballs, there's going to be more attention, whether they get the call they don't. But when you look at the numbers, and I don't know the numbers this year, but whenever we did that, whenever we did a deep dive, it wasn't that Tom Brady's or the Peyton Mannings, you know, or the Patrick Mahomes that were getting all the calls. It was more even imbalanced. And you know, look, there's kind of this perception that Joe Burrow doesn't get at those calls.

You know.

You know.

I read today that he needs to start arguing more, he needs to start complaining more. I don't officials don't the good ones that doesn't affect them. They want to get it right and it doesn't matter if it's Tom Brady or if it's a you know, a backup quarterback that's in the game. So yeah, I think that's more perception. I don't think that's reality. But look, sometimes perception becomes reality.

I read today that he needs to start arguing more, he needs to start complaining more. I don't officials don't the good ones that doesn't affect them. They want to get it right and it doesn't matter if it's Tom Brady or if it's a you know, a backup quarterback that's in the game. So yeah, I think that's more perception. I don't think that's reality. But look, sometimes perception becomes reality.

Yeah, but Brady jawing at you and you're an official, that doesn't impact.

Yeah, but Brady jawing at you and you're an official, that doesn't impact.

It could go one or two ways. Because I've I've I've heard officials that said, you're not going to get that. The more you jaw it me, the more I'm gonna I'm not, you know, like, oh this guy, like all right, shut up? You know and I and I work with Tom now and I love him and he's he's a sweetheart. I can't believe I say, you used to complain a lot. That's not what I'm getting from you today.