The Dan Patrick ShowSenior NFL reporter Albert Breer joined the show today to discuss possible landing spots for Las Vegas Raiders star receiver Davante Adams, and Peter King stopped by in studio to break down Bill Belichick's coaching future as well as his life in retirement.
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Peter King will join us.
Coming up a little bit later on in studio the Monday Morning quarterback Albert Breer on the big story that is Davante Adams prefers a trade. We'll talk to Peter and Albert Breer about that, because right now, Davante Adams, now you say he prefers a trade, he didn't demand a trade. Now, maybe it's semantics. It's a very nice way of saying, I'd like to get out of here. I don't know why he stayed in the first place. When they traded Derek Carr. He went there to play with Derek Carr's former college teammate. Don't you think that he looked around and he sees the quarterback room and goes mm aiden, who Gardner? Huh, this is the guy who played with Aaron Rodgers and Derek Carr. Now, all of a sudden, you look around, you're not going anywhere. You didn't get a quarterback in the draft. I was surprised that he started the season with the Raiders because I thought he would say, look, let's just see what you can get for me. Let me go someplace else. We're not going to be competing this year. Now we have a situation where the trade deadline, I believe is November fifth. He has a hamstring injury. Well you can't really say does he have one or maybe it's just convene. Maybe he doesn't want to play anymore and it's a hamstring and it's day to day. Because this has to be awkward. And then there was a post about him preferring a trade that his head coach Antonio Peers, on social media liked. I'm guessing it was accidental. I don't like stories. I've never done that before. I don't know how you do it accidentally. Hey, there's this story there. Oh, I just.
Hit liked there. Yes, TuS talk about passive aggressive. I love that I can speak to that day Calick.
But I'm sure that the Jets situation will come up. I think it's mandatory that any analyst who's on ESPN or Fox has to say the Dallas Cowboys would be interested in Devonte Adams. I'm waiting for somebody to say, and don't rule out the Lakers, I mean, might we might as well get them all in there, Bronnie, Lebron and DeVante with the Lakers.
Wait, he plays football. I don't care.
We're gonna he could go to the Lakers there, okay, and we're gonna play the Where will Devonte Adams end up? So you have the Jets, the Cowboys are in there. I guess the Buffalo Bills, the Baltimore Ravens, the Washington Commanders, the Pittsburgh Steelers, and a dark horse, the Kansas City Chiefs. I can't imagine the Raiders trading a great player in the division to the Kansas City Chiefs. As far as the Cowboys go, I like that they'd have money for DeVante Adams, but they didn't have money for Derrick Henry. Okay, but it's the Cowboys, and after you know they had a couple of ugly losses here. You know their problem is not offense. Their problem is defense defensive line here. But if you can somehow work in the Cowboys. Sure, you know the Cowboys had twenty points against New York, but having a number two option to seed Lamb. All right, that I get it. But I think the Ravens are sneaky interesting just because go all in. I mean, you got a chance. That's where you see these teams. If I'm the Jets, I got I have to get him. I have to get him. I mean, what's the downside? You got Rogers to win? Now, your offense has not been good at all all in Now, I don't know what it cost you. I've read a couple of reports. Maybe a second round pick for Davante Adams. Then you've got to pick up his salary. I'm sure you'll get some capologists who can help you with that. But that to me makes the most sense. But we'll play the where will Davante Adams end up? Coming up in a little bit. By the way, DeVante Adams was with k Adams no relation and it's starting. Oh okay, up in Adams with k Adams And here's her question to Devonte Adams, how much does it.
Bother you when you keep hearing these trade things?
Because I would I would be paranoid. It gets annoying for sure.
You know, I'm one of those players that people like to talk about one way or the other. So if I was the type of guy that, you know, let certain things that people say on the outside gets me, then you know I wouldn't be in a position that I am.
Now.
I've had some ups and downs in the league, and through it all, I just try to stay like this and you know, do my part in that.
So whatever else happens when people are talking about, when people are.
Tweeting, liking, you know, whatever it is, you know, I can't do anything about that.
Well, I think he was trying to do something about it. He is doing something about it if you are reportedly preferring to be traded by the Raiders. And then there was a report that last year he had gone to them or started the camp that you know, maybe it's time to move on. I don't know how old Max Crosby is, probably late twenties.
What is he, PAULI twenty seven.
Okay, if you're Max Crosby and all of a sudden you go, wait, Davante wants out. I think that if I'm Max Crosby, I would say that I prefer to be traded as well.
I like the tone of that, like you know, you know, I like to be not so much here but elsewhere.
Yeah. I'm not demanding any No, I just you know what, you know, what I'd like to be instead of here? How about there? Prefer I'm just saying, yeah, prefer all right, Todd, you're doing the UH poll question honors today.
I am right in the wheehouse of what we're talking about. First hour, Paul, Which team will Devantie Adams be traded to Bill's Chiefs, Commanders, Jets, Ravens, Steelers, and our favorite other?
Well, just put the Cowboys on there. Yeah, you gotta have the Cowboys.
Yeah, because you're going to get clicks if you have the cowboys on here. Of course the Cowboys would want him.
Yes.
A lot of the people are saying it's about caproom. There's some teams that have the cap room and some teams that don't. Some teams that do not not attractive places like the Patriots or you know, but teams that have camproom. The forty nine ers surprisingly of cap space because of the brock Party situation. Oh, the Browns, the Patriots, Lions, Commanders, Cowboys, Cardinals, Jets. That's the top eight in cap space right now like this season.
Well, I would say if I'm the Lions, now, sometimes you get somebody to keep that guy from going to someplace else. So this might be a proactive move that, hey, let's get him so he doesn't end up with San Francisco. Or if you're the Jets, you don't want him going to Kansas City. Now, you do want him on your team, but you also want to make sure that somebody else doesn't get better because the move you're going to make is to win a Super Bowl. It's not going to be hey, you know, we're Carolina, we're rebuilding that. Yes you are, but DeVante Adams isn't going to want to go there.
He'd prefer not to go there.
Yes, Marvin, And when Davante made that trade request, they say, hey, what about Cleveland, Well not there.
I prefer not to go there.
I'll stay here. But the Browns need him real bad yeah, they do need him.
But if I'm Davante Adams, I probably go, eh, you know, I helped you beat the Ravens. Now, I'll join you and let's beat everybody else here Kansas City.
Imagine that walk into that.
I just don't know if the Raiders would be willing to trade in the division to the Chiefs, I wouldn't be.
I couldn't if I'm Mark Davis.
There's no way I could watch the Super Bowl and all of a sudden, Davante Adams is out there and you're going, we just gave them another super Bowl.
Yes, Paulmy I wonder I was reading today some people in New York are speculating Aaron Rodgers could, you know, volunteer to restructure again. He still gets all his money, but he just defers it, you know, Shoho Tani style.
Well you got Garrett Wilson there too, but he's been limited. Alan Lazard is limited. But if I'm Aaron Rodgers, I'm tampering. Oh yeah, yeah, I I am. Whatever it takes. I'd tell him if if you could find maybe a phone booth, I'm gonna call it.
I don't think they have phone booths anymore, do they.
You see them occasionally, like by the subways, but not too much in New.
York, like a true phone booth, or the ones that are just like a well, I mean the box style, yeah, checking.
Yeah, I don't I remember using that before in Times Square, and it's not a good thing to put that up to your ear and your mouth when you're in Times Square. You you have no idea what has happened in Times Square, but you could pretty much guess what could have happened.
Yes, Paul, there are no more freestanding public payphones in New York City. There are four full they call them superman booths, the ones that you open the doors. They are freestanding and in New York, but their phones are not in service. The people who own the property just said you could leave him outside there. There's one outside of bar in New York City, but people take pictures in it like it's a novelty.
Oh okay, the phone doesn't work.
Yes, did you have a prank one of those phone boots?
I remember looking at my window in a couple of blocks away, you can see, like the phone books, and you get the number, and you called the number, and you wait to see if someone's gonna pick it up.
That was a fun time.
Wow, you in college must have been a blast. You you're crazy, little kid.
And were you calling to see if someone's going to enter the payphone because you have the number four?
Did you ever say is your refrigerator running? Yes?
It is way you better go catch it, all right? Did you have Prince Albert n Cairn? Yes, we'll let him out.
Not a lot to do when you're nine once the littleague games, I would say, your prank the phone.
I think you were probably a little older than nine.
Might have been seventeen.
Yes, he wasn't busy calling girls?
Yes, memorizing the periodic table beyond?
Yes, Marvin, Relax, guys, and you guys said he didn't do any damage.
Come on, man, you were wild back then with mommy, why are answering the payphone?
Hang up the phone?
Why did you pick it up?
Mommy? Mommy?
Yeah, bringing us cookies?
Todd Are you on the phone calling the phone booth?
Yes, mommy, I'm a sophomore. NYU close the door.
We don't want any more cupcakes.
Leave? Oh you wanted cupcakes?
All right?
Play of the Day will be coming up. Any other poll questions there.
We have a couple of baseball ones. Want to hear those? I guess you're asked us so much interesting?
How about we save those baseball poll questions.
We have two fun baseball ones.
You do, yes, yes, you know.
I love about the first day of the playoffs, you discover players you either forgot about or you didn't know were with the team. Michael King, the pitcher for the Padres yesterday, I was like, who is this guy? To watch a lot of Padre baseball? He was?
He used to bounce around on the Yankees. He's dominant out of nowhere.
At twelve strikeouts in seven innings, that's the second most in a playoff game in Podre's history. Kevin Brown struck out sixteen in nineteen ninety eight against the Astros. Stead of good days, sad day, best, stead of the day, stat of the day?
Here comes that?
What stat of the day.
Since baseball went to the current postseason format a couple of years ago, Game one winners have won all eight of the opening round series.
Only one of the eight went to a third game.
Interesting numbers there with the best of three in these opening round matchups.
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He's Albert Brier, the Monday Morning Quarterback senior NFL reporter. You have a situation with DeVante Adams. He is preferring a trade, not demanding a trade. What's the difference between preferring a trade but not demanding a trade?
It's better pr right Like, It's like somebody saying somebody applied the franchise tag versus being slapped with the franchise tag, right like, so it still a little friendlier, you know, I I I think part of it probably Dan is you know, Davante maybe being a little bit sensitive to the idea that he'd be a malecontent because I do think like he likes Antonio Pierce and you know, I think and you know, a nuance.
This is what like went.
On there last year, you know, and like how there were a small group of veteran players that you know, really played a role in getting ap that job in the first place. And you know, ironically enough, like if if Davanta Adams has traded, two of the three would be gone, because the three guys were really Max Crosby, Josh Jacobs and and DeVante Adams, you know, and so now you know Jacobs was in Green Bay and Adams would both be gone. So I think that's part of the reason why is because you know Adams. I don't think does I don't think Adams wants to disrespect Antonio Pierce. But at the same time, his contract sets up in a way where it's pretty clear he's not going to be there next year. And you know, as a guy is turning thirty two in December, I'm sure wanting to play for a contender right now and have a chance to go compete for a Super Bowl is a big priority of his.
Okay, what's he worth? What's it going to cost? In ye turn?
And do you do you have a list of teams pecking order where.
You I think the obvious ones are the ones that he's got.
You know, he's got connections too, So the Jets, you know, obviously played all those years with Aaron Rodgers, the Saints, he has the relationship with Derek Carr, playing in college with him. Derek Carr is a huge reason what he wanted to be in Vegas to begin with. So you know, you start with those two teams. We're sure the obvious connect the Dot Team. Those teams actually also have guys as number one receivers and Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave that I think could take the pressure off of them as an older player, you know just In you know, it's sort of coverage he's seeing and everything else.
So those are be the.
Teams I start with us for his value, I don't think they're going to get like a Brandon Ayuk type of package. The reality is Ayuk is twenty six, Adams is thirty two. So I think the more reasonable comps for for for an Adams trade would be.
Keenan Allen and Stefan Diggs.
And if you really dig into what those trades were and and you both those guys that are production last year was actually a little bit better than Devonte Adams. Now those guys have better quarterbacks, you know, Diggs had Josh Allen and Keenan Allen had, you had had Justin Herbert. But those guys had similar production, had had better production, slightly better but better production last year.
Adam.
You know, Adams or Alan went up wound up getting traded from the Chargers to the Bears for a fourth round pick. Diggs got traded from Buffalo to the Texans for a future second round pick, So a second round pick that was a year out, and fifth and sixth round picks went to Houston with.
Digs, so there was a give back there.
So that's roughly the value of a third rounder. So I think that's what you're looking at here, probably a three or a four. My guess is that Vegas probably wouldn't move DeVante Adams for a four.
I think some.
Teams will try to go fishing and see if a four would do it. Ultimately, I think a three is probably what winds up being the price.
Yeah, I was told to two, but that might be a two. That's what Vegas wants, But that doesn't mean that's what Vegas is going.
That's what I'm saying, Yeah, I mean what Vegas wants Vegas is actually going to ask for is obviously going to ask for a little bit more, I'd be. I mean, I think the value, probably most teams would tell you is a three or a four.
But then what does Max Cronsby do? Does he prefer a trade after Davante trade?
You know? Like, I think it's certainly a question.
You know, I.
Don't think the Raiders as competitive as they've been in Antonio Pierce deserves a lot of credit for this.
There aren't very many spots in their rosters that that that.
Don't qualify as need positions, right like, So this is a very real ground up rebuild for Tom Tolasco and Antonio Pierce. They are not close, but I think they are walking this tightrope of we know we need to rebuild the roster, but we also need to provide the new coaching staff some proof of concept and not make it look like we're taking this thing down to the studs. So, you know, I think with Crosby, it sort of rides a little bit more.
On where are you on Halloween?
Right when you're you know whatever, it is a week, two weeks out from the trade deadline, What does your record look like? Are you still in the race. If you're still competing for a playoff spot, then I think you keep mac Max Crosby, you know, and I think you do it almost regardless of what he wants.
But if that's the case, then are you keeping DeVante Adams as well that you're in the playoff?
No, because I think I think at this point, like Davante Adams is DeVante Adams isn't a building block for you going forward to Crosby.
I have to look up his.
Twenty Okay, So like Crosby, like, let's say, if you're if you're Telasco and and Pierce. Right now you say, realistically, realistically, we can build this into a contender, a real contender in twenty twenty six.
How much does Adams have left in twenty twenty six?
Not much?
How much does Crosby have left?
Yeah, hold a lot? Yeah right, yeah, probably.
Still a really good But if you're the Raiders, don't you try to trade Adams?
Like now, like immediate are.
You gonna are you going to go all the way up to the deadline, because yeah, I'm going to.
Drag this out.
No, I do not think you want to drag this out where you get into the you know, phantom injury.
Thing, you know what I mean? Like you just might have that what are you dealing with this week? Was that?
I'm not saying that, but like I don't think you want to deal with that on a week to week basis. I don't think that that winds up being something that is good for your locker room. It's good for your program. So I'm with you on that, Like I don't I don't think you're going to get markedly more for Davante Adams a month from now than you would now now. I mean, like, could you get a little bit more because some team gets into an emergency injury situation. That's certainly possible, you know, But I do think, like you look at this and you say, it'd be better if we just get a resolution on this now and then we get a real view of where our team is over the next few weeks without Davante Adams as part of the equation, and then you know, we make decisions on guys like Max Crosby and others on the roster that maybe we can get some value back for.
He's Albert Brier Monday Morning Quarterback. Last time you're on. You floated out there. Bill Belichick and the Jags. The Jags continue to go in the wrong direction here.
Do you think Bill Belichick has his staff.
In mind that he would he plug and play with something like this, or or would he want to wait and give me the entire offseason, not come in right away and be judged on somebody else's team.
I mean, like, I don't think he's coming in right away. Like, if that's what you're asking, when was the lost time that happened?
Well, if they if they continue to lose, right, are they going to make it? So you think this owner would give Doug Peterson the rest of the season.
No, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that.
Like I I look like I look at it like they're they got a.
Division game this week.
If they lose Indianapolis, they go to London in h to five. If they go to London in h and five, that's an embarrassing thing for a billionaire. Billionaires don't like being.
In and that's his that's hiss.
And then yeah, and then you're going to a place where he owns a soccer team, he owns Fulham and he's invested a lot in making the Jaguars a factor in that city. They're going there own five, then they've wind up coming back on seven. I think all that's are off, you know, because that would mean they'd have vot to the Bears and Patriots, all due respect, that's not losing to the Chiefs and Niners.
You know, So like I don't know.
Like I I think, you know, I like, I think there's a possibility that that that this could be a mid season thing. I wouldn't rule that out, but I just don't know how you go about, you know, bringing in a new head coach in mid season, if that's what you're asking, you know, you know, I think they would. I think they would, you know, pick whoever on the staff and make Ryan Nielson the defensive coordinator and make them the interim coach. And then you know, if you wanted to get a head start, you maybe start working in the background with someone like Bill you know what I mean, Like on that now, could you go and get a new general manager? That I think is possible like that. We've seen that that. I believe it was the Browns that did that with John Dorsey years ago, right like at the end of maybe at the end of the Hugh Jackson. Now, yeah, it was while Hugh Jackson was the coach when they brought Dorsey in in December. And there are a number of guys that Belichick has worked with, you know, Scott Pioli, John Robinson, Thomas de mittrof that are out there that don't have that that that don't that aren't working for NFL teams right now that you might be able to to to install as your general manager if you were going to make major changes in mid season. That's aid to answer to the other part of your question, Like, I think Bill has a real good idea of who you have on his staff. Like I think that there would be bringing the band back together element to all of this, Like I I think Josh McDaniels would be part of the equation, Matt Patricia, Joe Judge, Like I think there'd be a lot of familiar names as part of the next staff wherever Bill lands.
You think Christian McCaffrey plays this season, I.
Do, I, you know, I.
I I think that this is I mean you and I both know this, right, Like you've been around sports longer than me. But I know well enough to know when an athlete goes over to Germany, it's not for evaluation, it's for treatment, right, So you know I I I I.
Sort of it.
The thing the thing that reminds me of the most is Andrew Locke. You know, like when Andrew Locke just could not get in front of the injuries that he had and kind of kept trying to find different solutions and it just kind of became too much for him.
Now.
I'm not saying that McCaffrey is going to become lock here, you know, but it's certainly concerning, you know, like that that he just can't seem to get in front of this right now.
So I think they find a way.
I think that that that that a lot of this is uncertain at this.
Point, you know, and and and how he feels.
What I do know is I I think they're going to find a way to get him on the field because I think McAffrey is determined to get back on the field. I would never doubt that guy's drive, like in his his will, and I think he's gonna want to find a way to get back out there. Finding the most judicious way to do that is the question. And that's how that started in.
The first place.
Dan, Like I I think, you know, their feeling coming out of out of week one, Week two is like okay, like, well, if this is the NFC Championship game, he could have played, right, but this is lingered to the point where it's you know, now you're taking trips to.
Germany and everything else. I think there's a real level.
Of determination on McCaffrey's part to be a part of the niners like drive for Super Bowl this year. And you know, I think the fact that this could be the one of the final shots that this particular group of players has at it together is a motivator too. So I think he finds a way out there. The question is what forum, and you know what sort of condition he's going to be in when he gets out there, And I'm not sure even he knows that until he actually goes out there and tests how the treatment worked on the practice field.
The two tongue of ilo situation.
Not many guys go in concussion protocol and end up on the IR, but not many players have suffered the concussions that too a Hat does to a play for the Dolphins this season.
Yes, and I say that like everybody else, you know, waiting to see what comes of everything that he's done and is doing with specialists. So I don't want to put it on him that I'm guaranteeing anything, but I I would say like that there are zero people I've talked to around Toua that think that he is even considering retiring or wanting to shut it down. And I think the dolphins own actions here would tell you that they're giving him every chance. I think the act of putting them on an injured reserve was very, very smart by the Dolphins, and I think the idea there was to take the pressure off of everybody doing that. Sidelining him for four games took the pressure off the coaches, took the pressure off of too himself, took the pressure off the trainers, took the pressure off the doctor. Took the pressure off of everybody so he could make a coherent decision on his future. I think he badly wants to play again, and I think it's easy for the rest of us to play mom and dad out there and say I would never let my kid go back out there. And it was pointing for me listening to like Tony Gonzalez's commentary right after the game and saying, if that was my son, I wouldn't let him play. I think we all feel that way. If that was our son, if that was our brother, if that was our dad, if that was our uncle, we wouldn't want him going out there, right. But this is Toua's decision, you know. And I think the psychology of the pro athlete is an interesting one, because you know, you have something that you're so elite at that somebody's willing to pay you millions for it, and it's been part of your identity since you were a little kid.
And invariably for all.
These guys, at some point in their twenties or three already, somebody's going to tap them on the shoulder and tell them that they cannot do that anymore.
And they still have more than half of their life to live, right.
It's a really it's an interesting psychological thing there, and you know, Tua now being in that position in his mid twenties has a tough spot to be in for a player. And you know, so I can understand both sides of it. You know, I think like the rest of us look at it and say, we would never let it. We would never want our brother or our son, or our again, our dad or our uncle wanting going back out there after what two has been through. But the psychology of a pro athlete is very different than that.
Yeah, because if Tony Gonzalez was the player, Tony Gonzalez would go out there and play exactly now he's saying, you know, fifteen years, which.
Is totally understandable too.
Right, Yeah, I get it, I get it. But the mentality of the player is going to continue to play.
Yeah, and I think it was really interesting too. Just one last thing on that, what Mike McDaniel's comment where he said, like you're the quarterback of your family, right like that Ultimately is who he has to answer to.
Two.
It doesn't have to answer to the Dolphins. He doesn't have to answer He thinks he's got to answer to his locker room, right, which is the natural mentality the athlete, the coaching, Steff, Ultimately the people he's got to answer to to the people who live under the same.
Roof as him, not us. Thank you, Albert, you got it. Thanks Dan.
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He's Peter King, NFL analyst for Sirius XM, the Let's Go Podcast with Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Max Crosby and Jim Gray, and covered the NFL for more than four decades. Pete, good to see you. As soon as I see Pete, he says, Hey, forty five years today, and I go forty five and he goes Chris Berman.
Forty Firman forty fifth year, forty five year anniversary. I just saw it on social media on the way up here to that.
Dang. Yeah, forty five years, forty five years at the Mothership, So that must mean nineteen seventy.
Nine he was there, yeah, when it started seventy yeah, him and Bob Lee and tom Me's Yeah, and I think they had a trailer there was no building. I mean the fact, you know, everybody wanted to work at ESPN when it became cool. Yeah, but those who were the pioneers who started a place when it wasn't cool, nobody knew if it would last. They thought it might be a local Connecticut sports channel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But for Bob and Chris and the late tom Mes to take a chance with something like that, And that's why I've said, all along, build a statue there of those three, name a building after that. I mean, remember them because people are going to forget them, and I don't want them to because without them, I'm not here. I don't have this job. And I forever indebted that they were doing it when they I didn't even know who was watching. So happy anniversary to Chris Burm All right, what do you miss most? How are you when you watch a football game? Watching it differently?
I mean I.
Watch it with I watched the Sunday Night game the first half of a glass of wine in my hand and having just finished pizza. No, I watch it for total entertainment, now for yus, for fun. And I used to watch it like if I had an idea that I was going to write a column about Joe Burrow, I would have the Bengals game on and I would watch every moment of Joe Burrow. And now I just watch the game. I do watch it a little bit differently. I just watch it for fun. I put on red Zone. Scott Hansen is my guru, and for six or seven hours, that's what I do. The difference in my life now, Dan, is that, except for the first week where I watched all of the Sunday Night game, I am in bed no later than halftime. And one week I was in bed about a quarter nine on Sunday night because I just that was the one thing about my life that I really didn't like. When you're a kid, you can stay up until four o'clock in the morning one day and then so it's a rough next day, but then you're fine the day after. But you do that when you're sixty six, sixty seven years old, and your life sucks until Wednesday. And so I just didn't want to do that anymore.
But how much did your brother's health. Yeah, like you start to have mortality, you know, when somebody around you passes way.
I mean all my father and my two brothers were all dead before the age of sixty five. And you know, I'm sixty seven now, and I'm not going to be dead anytime.
Well, shoot, that's a dumb thing.
So but I don't I'm trying to take care of myself and all that stuff.
But my whole.
Point is it's harder to do that when you're always tired and when you're beat up, even if you're working out, and I was working out three four days a week, but after a while, it just really starts to get to You.
Give me the team, the story that you would love to do a deep dive on this year right now.
I would really love to do Dan Quinn the Commandos Commanders. I really wish they'd just be Washington football team.
Yeah, I love that.
It was the greatest thing football team that would really be fun. I've never met Jayden Daniels, I don't know much about him, but wow, is he impressive. But the other team I would love to be around a lot is Kansas City because look, if Kansas City somehow finds a way this year, they're the Beatles. You know, they're gonna be Mahomes as John Lennon, Andy Reid is a portly Paul McCartney, and you know they are going to be the biggest thing in sports because obviously in the Super Bowl era and not since Green Bay sixty years ago, or there's somebody win three titles in a row, and so that to me, I'm totally fascinated. And you know, Dan, I think we are going to look back on this era of football and we're going to say, Okay, the first twenty years of this century were owned by Brady. The next twenty years are going to be owned by Mahomes. And one of the biggest reasons is not just talent and all that stuff, but he has the will. And I tell this story last year in Frankfurt, when I was covering the game for NBC, they played Miami and they're playing crappy on offense, and after the game, I interviewed Mahomes on the field for NBC and I said, man, your offense. You won, but your offense is in trouble. And he goes, Oh, we're going to straighten it out. Don't worry. We're gonna be okay. We're gonna And afterwards I went into the locker room and I kind of gave him a little fistbum said, thank you. You didn't have to do that, and I appreciate you doing it. He said, hey, no problem, he says, Peter, I want to tell you we're going to get this offense straightened out.
I guarantee it.
I promise you, And he just he has the will that a lot of people don't have, but that Tom Brady did have.
Speaking of Brady, you're the newest member of the Let's Go podcast. You got Brady Belichick, Max Crosby, Jim Gray. How do you get into word edgewise?
Well, you know, it's all in different segments. So like I do one segment with Jim Gray on kind of happenings of the league, and you know, the other day we talked a lot about Derrick Henry and then I am part me and Jim will interview Max Crosby every week, and then Belichick does his own thing with Jim and Brady's not on every week.
He's on.
I don't know how often he'll be on, but he's not on every week because he's got his other life now. But I mean, it's kind of fun just to have fourteen minutes. You know, at NBC you've got a minute forty and now you've got fourteen minutes.
That's kind of fun just to be able to talk. You know, what do you make of Belichick the media star?
Well?
I always knew he'd be good at this for a very simple reason. A long time ago in the eighties, I covered the Giants and Belichick was defensive coordinator and he wasn't Johnny Carson, but he was incredibly insightful and enlightening, and look, he wanted a head coaching job, so he was going to be friendly and not friendly, but you know, he was going to cooperate with the writers, and in those days, the writers were everything. And so Belichick was great. And he's got it in him to be clever, to be a little bit funny, and to be really really smart, obviously about football. So I had no doubt he'd be good. If Bill wants to be good at something, he's going to be good at something. Now we just have to wait. I mean, there's no doubt in my mind or anybody. I would assume that somebody's gonna give him a shot next year. But Dan, I would just say this about next year with Bill Belichick, I want to see how accepting he is to some new stuff in football, to analytics, to.
Stuff that.
I think he's always sort of viewed himself as the smartest guy in the room, even though he wouldn't say that, but he has viewed himself that way. And I think there's more information than ever. I think he's got to start taking advantage of that information.
Is he going to be a GM too? Is he going to have a dual title?
I don't think he should be, because I'm not saying nobody in his right mind would allow Bill to pick all the groceries. But I do think that he's going to have to have a good deal of say. But look, had he gone to Atlanta, Arthur Blank was not going to newter or fire Terry Fontineau the GM, and so Bill was going to have to accept that. And I think and quite honestly, Dan, he.
Should accept it.
He should look at his weakness over the last six or eight years that he did the Patriots, and he was a weak evaluator and collector of talent.
There's no other way to put it. We're talking to Peter King.
He's the newest member of the Let's Go Podcast, available every Monday at six eastern three Pacific on Serious XM Mad Dog Radio. That's a Channel eighty two. Why is Jerry Jones in the Hall of Fame before Robert Kraft?
Well, first of all, Robert Kraft I firmly believe will get in the Hall of Fame. I think Jerry Jones got in the Hall of Fame for two reasons. Number one, three super Bowls. Number two, the business model. Jerry Jones gets in as a quote contributor, end quote. And I don't know anybody who you know if you say a guy has won three Super Bowls. Now, whatever year he got in, it was about ten years ago, eight, ten years ago, whatever it was. But at the time, he had three Super Bowls and he changed the way the NFL did a lot of its business, and he made the league a lot of money, and he made the league different so that's why. Now, if you want to argue that Robert Kraft, I mean, first of all, I think and I'd have to look up the year that Jerry got in, Robert Kraft probably had either three or four by the time Jerry got in. And look, I've said this about Craft many times. And now I'm not a voter on the committee anymore. I resigned a couple of months ago, but I am going to be a consultant to the committee. And I have said this for a long time that the reason that Robert Kraft will get in. And I'm not one of those that said, well, of course he should be in. I mean, he probably should be in by now, but he's going to get in. And the biggest reason is because in the year two thousand, right as the millennium began, Robert Kraft did something that nobody wanted him to do. He hired Bill Belichick. Everybody thought, oh my god, this anti social loser from Klee Lynd. You know who got blown out in Cleveland. You know, why would you give him another team? You know, what what are you doing? And he went against everybody, and of all the things he's done in the NFL, and he's done a lot business wise, collective bargaining wise, and all that stuff. The fact that he went against the grain and hired Belichick, because just remember Bill Belichick, Scott Pioli, they're the guys who picked the players in New England very early on. There's no reason to think that Dom Capers and whoever would be on the personnel side, there's no reason to think they would have picked Tom Brady with the one hundred and ninety ninth pick into in that year in their first draft. I mean it was, it's almost if it's almost chancy anyway. But the fact is he brings in somebody who's got the presence of mind somehow some way to pick Tom Brady and they live happily ever after for two decades and win six Super Bowls.
Is Russell Wilson playing his way out of the Super Bowl or out of the Hall of Fame?
I don't know.
There's gonna be so many quarterbacks from this era who have a good argument for the Hall of Fame, so many.
And I don't know.
I'm always hesitant the one guy though, Dan and I'm hesitant on Russell Wilson. I would like to see him do a little bit more somewhere outside of the cocoon of Seattle, and he hasn't yet. But let's see the one guy who this year in Detroit on that Sunday night and then against San Francisco, I said to myself, Matthew Stafford. I'm not saying it's an absolute, no doubt. Matthew Stafford absolutely has my vote. I think he's this generation's Dan fouts And plus he's got a Super Bowl.
Yeah, Dan Foutz didn't have one.
I just think that Matthew Stafford and what he's done with a team that many times has been down and out because of injuries, he just keeps them in every single game. And I just I think Matthew Stafford's special.
And what I found interesting is these younger quarterbacks Caleb Williams, yeah, CJ Stroud, and they were gushing over Matthew Stafford, Yeah, gushing yeah. And I'm like, I mean, they grew up on him and they're watching now. Granted he wasn't on the big stage really other than with the Rams, but they're seeing him and seeing what it's like to be a quarterback to be able to do what he's doing. And I found that amazing because if you're a young quarterback, you're probably saying, maybe it's Tom Brady, maybe it's Patrick Mahomes, somebody. They're watching Matthew Stafford when he was in Detroit, Yeah, and gushing over him.
Yeah.
I mean, look, everybody's gonna say if he say, oh, Matthew Stafford the negative people for the Hall of Fame. To me, Matthew Stafford lifted that franchise for so many years into at least mediocrity when they probably didn't even deserve that. And I would I'd say one of the saddest things I've seen is when his own wife and their kids can't go to the first game of the season because they're going to get booed. I mean, you know, sports fandom has really gone too far when something like that happens. Bothers me.
Well, Dan Campbell, you lose the playoff game and somebody leaks his address and you got I mean, they should be planting flowers, yes, at Dan Campbell's house.
Yeah, he's fabulous, So that whole franchise. You know, last year in training camp. I remember I've been to the Lions over the years in training camp and there's sixteen people there, you know, as a crowd. And last year it was raining steadily at seven thirty in the morning for an eight thirty practice, and there was a line of people waiting to get in a long Lion. I mean, they've changed football in Detroit. Bill Parcells always said the one team that he thought would have been great to coach, not that he looked back and wanted to change his life, would be the Detroit Lions. He just had a fascination because when Parcells was a kid, the Lions meant something.
Yeah, and Tony Dungee said, yeah, he came close to coaching the Lions because his dad was.
A Lion science fan. Yeah.
Before I let you go, your remembrances of Pete Rose when you were in Cincinnati, do you have a favorite?
I'm twenty three years old. I just get hired by the Cincinnati Inquirer. The Philadelphia Phillies come to town, and my sports editor says, go, basically, do the state of Pete Rose? What's going on with him now? With the Phillies all that? And I went into I just walked into the clubhouse before a game four point thirty in the afternoon in Cincinnati, and I introduced myself and he goes, oh, Peter King, Hey, you're new at the Inquirer. That's cool, love the inquired great paper. Where are you from Enfield, Connecticut?
Oh? How jammed up out here?
Well?
I went to Ohio University. Oh cool.
He interviewed me for two minutes before I started talking to him and Dan. Over the years, I would see him occasion. I went to lunch with him one day in New York when he was still managing the Reds, just for fun.
Because I like the guy.
And then the last time I saw him was maybe five six seven years ago. I was out at Fox on the Fox lot in LA and I saw him and he goes.
Peter, how you doing? What are you doing here?
You know?
And he had the memory of an elephant, he really did. And he could talk to anybody pretty much about anything as long as it had to do with sports.
And uh, if you if you didn't get a chance to listen to Johnny Bench yesterday.
Yeah, I gotta hear that. I gotta go back and listen.
Yeah, yeah it was raw. Are you sticking around for the pizza party after the show? I am, yeah, okay, yeah, thank you, Dan. It's great to be with you. That's Peter King,
