The Best of The Dan Patrick Show

Published Nov 12, 2024, 6:28 PM

Dan recaps Monday Night Football and wonders if the Rams or Dolphins are in better shape after last night. Ole Miss Head Football Coach Lane Kiffin discusses his usage of the transfer portal. And Nick Wright explains why he'd rather be the Jets than the Cowboys. 

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Dolphins get by the Rams twenty three fifteen, The Finns now three and six. Not done, done the Rams now four and five. You got some mac action Tonight, ball Steak Buffalo, Western Michigan, Bowling Green Central Michigan, and Toledo. The Baseball Award finalist were announced. Will run down those. The Cavaliers Mike Cabs are now twelve and zero. The thunder rolling along with the win last night, they've lost chat holmgun probably for two months, maybe three months, and he had played really well to start this season. All right, see poll question before we dive into what happened last night in Los Angeles?

Well, why don't we start right there with what happened last night?

Okay in Los Angeles?

All right, fod has submitted this pole question.

Rams were gonna we're gonna start spelling it.

Thho d D think about it? That guy. I've thought about that all the time, all day.

I even tried to explain it, Like I got home to my wife, like Babe, this is this, and so I said THOD to her and she just looked at me like waiting for the rest, you know, that blank stare where they're like someone's just blinking looking at you, and I'm like, anyway, I thought it was funny.

There's nothing else to it.

There's a few things that we do on the show when I try to translate it to my wife or my family, And then I realized maybe it wasn't that funny.

You just got to be caught up in the moment. I can't really recreate it for you, but trust me, it was awesome. It's so funny. Oh man, I left so hard. Yeah, and then we brought up Jeff and then it's g Off and then oh, okay, not funny, all right, all right, that's funny, as you were. God a name it's like spelled it looks like g Off, but it's really Jeff.

Yeah.

People named g offf were offended yesterday. Yes, John, I usually get you. Guys are such children. You get paid to do that.

That stuff that you do, that is true. We are children and we get paid to do that. All right, She can go ahead. The rams are going to be just fine. A bump in the road last night, or frauds, no division title, no playoffs either. That's from the mind of Todd from.

Oh I was going to say it has to be Todd because his are usually really descriptive. Yeah, okay, So.

Well, I was going to ask who, even after last night's game, who is a better team, the three and six Miami Dolphins or the.

Four five Rams.

I'm going to say the four and five Rams because they can still win that division. The Dolphins at three and six they have to put up with the Buffalo Bills, and I don't think they're catching Buffalo. It's just a weird Like I watched the Dolphins and you know what they can be. It's just I don't know if they're going to be able to be that consistently. You know, Tyreek Hill had a touchdown reception. He hadn't had one in seven weeksh Yeah, but they do have all that speed they talk about. Boy, they got all that speed they do, But it comes down to it feels like to a tongue of ioloa, how good is he? And then he throws an intersect and he goes for a tackle, And I'm going and I know that the person who intercepted was close to the end zone and you want him to make a tackle. I'm to the point now where I just go Okay, whatever happens to Tua happens to Tua. There's nothing we can do. He wants to be out there. I just hope he plays smarter. Don't go low with your head. You can push somebody out about and it's hard to say you don't care. But I can't think of that each time I see him, and I was thinking that last night. I'm watching him when he goes back to pass. Now, a lot of the passes, they're very quick. He's not taking seven step drops. You don't get a chance to really run at him after you're a defender. I don't think he cares. So I don't want to watch a game and care what's going to happen to Tua. But Tua did talk about his tackling form after the game.

I feel good, everything's good.

I went up to that dude that intercepted me and ask them, like, Bro, you couldn't just like ran out of bounce.

Or like cut back.

It's like you've seen me and I seeing you, like you wanted to just run me over. He told me after the game. There was like he's like there's no room there, like there was nowhere else to go. So you know he he got to do what he got to do to help his team win games, and I wasn't. I wasn't planning on using my head to go ahead.

I guess it's like kind.

Of mid kick, like the side of your head. You mean you never fall in the Olypics front.

Nah, I didn't feel feel any of that. That was pretty bad tackling for him, though, that was pretty terrible.

I don't know if it's funny. I don't know if it's nervous laughter.

But I'm watching and I'm going, you know, don't do a Peyton manning where you go into a fetal position after an interception. But can we have some middle ground there of I'm going to, you know, get you out of bounds, prevent you from scoring a touchdown.

Just don't use your head. I mean use your head by not using your head. Yeah, yeah, like uh, maybe it's maybe it's wrong to say, but I don't really care what he does anymore. If it was a different player, I would be like, ah, man, you can't be doing that or whatever. But it's him.

He's very clearly made his choice.

He's very clearly made his decision and doesn't really want to hear about it. From anybody.

This is my choice.

It's my personal decision to go do this. Then hey, dude, if you're going to be out there, then go ahead, play like that and see how far you can take it.

If he doesn't care, we shouldn't care. And once again, I'm watching the game last night. I don't know if the audience was watching the game, and you think the same thing. Whenever he starts to run, whenever somebody's ready to tackle him. I couldn't help but think it. And I've never thought that way with any other player.

I don't think in NFL history where you're you're worried about them, And there may have been instances, but I can't find, you know, I'm not remembering anything.

It just feels like Tua is fragile and he's not built that way. I mean, if you've ever been around him, he's solid. But I just kind of watch him and maybe it's a father figure in me that you just want to be like play smart, because I've seen so many quarterbacks want to be football players. Be a quarterback, don't be a football player. And there's a difference in that it's okay you can fall down, you don't have to go head first. You don't have to be Andrew Luck head hunting. After you've thrown an interception, I'm going to make that tackle. No, don't do that because eventually you're going to get blasted by somebody.

Yeah, Pluming, you're right about Tuo.

You watch him like it's a horror movie and you kind of have your fingers off, like, oh no, no, remember a couple of years ago, this is apples and oranges. But to me, it's the same. When Alex Smith came back for Washington after his year and a half long leg issues. I think his first game back was on National TV against the Rams, and he was going against a really good Rams pass right, and every time Aaron Donald got anywhere near Alex Smith, I was like, oh no, no, no, no, no no. And he actually landed on him once. But that's the kind of player. Alex Smith's leg seems fragile. Tu seems completely fragile.

Tyreek Hill's touchdown catch entered a seven game streak without a touchdown reception, the longest of his career. I'm watching the game and they put up like five time first Team All Pro, eight time Pro Bowler. I think, so he's a Hall of Famer right now, isn't he? It feels like that Tyreek And I don't know what his numbers are, but you know, because we usually look at did you get to, you know, a thousand receptions? How many yards did receiving? But it feels like Tyreek Hill is already a Hall of Famer at five time first Team All Pro maybe eight time Pro Bowler.

Yeah, pulling those numbers are correct. His first All Pro was as a rookie. That was as a return man, not as a wide receiver. Okay, right, so he got that as a return and man, which still goes on your record. But four time first team All Pro as a wide receiver before the age of thirty, Yeah, that's a ticket, yes, Todd.

And it's certainly passing that name test that we like to do. When you say that name, I think you would instantly say, yeah, Hall of Fame Tyreek Hill.

It does feel like that.

But you see when you don't have Tua in there, how it affects all of those receivers, which says a lot about Tua. Like when Tua is playing and he's on rhythm, he's really really remarkable. But you watch that team and what could have been this year because they were a playoff team last year and Tua's health. You know, that's where your your future is tied to how healthy is he when he plays?

He's really good? All right?

Seeing any other pole questions, Yeah, we're going to start hour one with that. I'm cooking up a couple on your Cavaliers too, which.

My twelve and zero Cavaliers, and Todd said if they win their next they'll be thirteen to no.

Yeah, that's how the County are the number line that I grew up with.

I confirmed it, Yeah, because Paulie goes, Hey, what did the Cavaliers twelve and oh, and Todd goes, yeah, Wednesday night Philadelphia, if they win, they'll go to thirteen and O.

I go, PAULI check that and he confirmed it very quick, he did. I appreciate it. Yes, so mad he didn't do that on the air.

Yeah. Uh.

After that, they could hit fourteen. No, but you'd have to win the next two in a row to get to fourteen.

Confirmed.

Okay, a lot of season left though, Dan as, Oh, yes, yes, a lot of seasons left.

Yes, there is, yes, there is, yes, paul is twelve and oh.

In the NBA, like four and oh in the NFL, where it's great, but it doesn't mean a ton. Or do you'd say, like the Cavaliers are now a threatening team because I saw some people this morning saying they're amongst the favorites to win the East.

Well, I don't think there's a lot of favorites to win the East. I think there's the Celtics, and they're the favorites to win the title. But who else in the East do you say they're a favorite. It's not Milwaukee, it's not Philadelphia Orlando without I'll oh, Ben, the Caves.

And Celtics are the only two teams above five hundred right now in.

The Yeah, the East isn't good, you know? Or is that parody?

Okay, okay, I got you r Is that exactly the way the system has been designed?

I got your parody right here.

The Wizards are the only NBA team that she had to lead after the first quarter of this season. The Wizards are the only NBA team that she yet to lead at halftime this season?

Did you say parody or parody? This is the Stananda.

You're right, Seaton. The spelling p A r O d Y might be more apt. They are a parody. They haven't let in halftime this year.

Your Wizards started out with a two to zero winning stream the season, Yeah, then lost five in a row. They are being outscored by thirteen point seven points per game. The only worst team is the Jazz at thirteen point nine?

Yeah, what happened to the Jazz?

Maybe they do eventually trade Laurie markinen Cooper Flag's coming. Oh yeah, I know they're saying he's got to go to the East to balance out the East and the West. We have to have a you know, a couple other must see guys on Eastern teams, Eastern rosters there, Yes, Mark.

And the Wizards. They're goofy.

That's a goofy franchise, Like not even unserious, Like they're always going shocked in a fool.

They're always like Blooper reels, Like that's who they are. Vale McGee, right, right, Val McGee, Vale.

McGee, Nick Young. Like even as good as Gilbert was, it was just always something goofy at the time.

Well not goofy wanted to bringing guns into a locker room.

Well I was just I was just gonna say on the court, but yes too, yes, like they're just goofy, Kyle Kuzman, Jordan Pool on the same team.

Go ahead, back to you, d thank you, thank you. Mark all right, well take a break.

Is he's being called, you know, the master of the Portal, he's mister Portal, He's Lane Kiffin. I don't think he liked the portal at all. I think he had some comments about it was bad. He'd never do, you know whatever. He was kind of going down that Debo Sweeney route, and then all of a sudden he's like, well, I can get my quarterback from USC, and my leading tackler is going to be from here, Mine leading running back will be from here, and wide receiver.

Everybody's from other schools. And that is a really good team.

As Kirby Smart, Georgia's head coach said after that loss, that's the most talented team we will face this year. But they did have the lost. LSU lost to Kentucky. But we'll talk to Lane Kiffin. Always good to talk to him.

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He is Lane Kiffin joining us on the program Ole Miss head coach. He's known as the portal King. Now, when did you get that title? When did you start to embrace the transfer portal?

I don't know about the title thing. We started on the portal, you know when they change the rules, when they created it and just really have utilized it. We still sound a lot of really good high school players. But it's basically just as you guys know professional sports. It's just the free agency part of it.

But you embraced it because initially you didn't like it.

Well, I don't know that it's great for college football. And how many windows there are and there's no structure like they having professional sports. You know, there's multiple windows and guys can just keep going, keep transfer as many times as they want. So I don't know that that's really good for college football, but we still maximum We maximize it because we make it good for old mess How.

Would you restructure it if you had the authority?

Well, I think you just got to look at professional sports. They've been doing things for a long time. You wouldn't have multiple free agency windows, and you certainly wouldn't have windows that before the season was over you could go into you know, we have a system where guys going at the end of a season when teams are still playing, So you know, that creates a lot of mental clutter for the guys. Even when they haven't gone in, they got other coaches calling them and trying to get them out of there and talk about going to other places. So it's a really poor system that way.

But are you more likely to look at a transfer than you are, Like, do you want a guy who's twenty or twenty one who's proven or you want an eighteen year old who's coming in as a freshman.

Well, I think it's really if you just think of the system the same way as the NFL, Like, you know, you can go free agency, but or you can go heavy draft, or you can go somewhere in the middle. And we still want to build through really good high school players, which we have a number of those that were making plays Saturday, But then we also go free agency. Also, where it gets a little different is you know, in this free agency you can get somebody that got three years left or just one year left, you know, because one year of eligibility. So it's it's a little bit more complicated that way than just oh you're just gonna go sign the best portal players, and you know, people, a lot of people. It's not like we're the only people that have done this. A lot of people for the last few years have done this and it hasn't worked. So, just like free agency and professional sports or looking at the NBA, you build these teams that are supposed to be good, and you can't buy culture, so you got to have other things in place and make sure that you pick the right pieces to come in that they play together, and some of them end up having reduced roles from what they had at previous places. You break big pregame speech, guy, No, I think you know you got the whole week just to talk to your team about things, and football is kind of a get hit in the mouth, and I don't know anybody remembers that, So I don't think there's there's a lot to that.

Did you say anything different prior to the Georgia game that you maybe wouldn't have said previous games?

No, No, now, throughout offseason or the week, you know, there were different things. The best thing that happened to us is Georgia beat us pretty good there a year ago, and the feeling of seeing that the feeling of how that game went him being bullied around, and really the line of scrimmages classic Georgia, what they do to a lot of people, and made a decision that we got to change our line of scrimmages. Even though we won eleven games last year, we wanted to be Georgia, and so we went out and we did that. We changed the size of our line of scrimmages, the twitch of our defensive ends in order to pass rush against them. But we also game planned against Georgia a lot in the offseason. So it wasn't a speech, it wasn't even stuff that was done that week. We spent a lot of time leading up to this game schematically as coaches to prepare for it.

Also, so this is a year in the making that you are like teams would do this with New England. You would get ready to gear up to beat New England when the Patriots were done.

You're you're building your roster to beat Georgia. Yeah.

I just felt that Georgia was by far and away the top program in college football and I think could have won a national championship last year. They lost one game to Nick Saban, which really outside of Alabama, and nobody has beat Georgia since COVID Florida, so they're the top program by far. So yeah, when if you're going to go in a championship, to me, it's got to go through Georgia. So you better build your team to be able to beat Georgia, especially when they're on our schedule. And and I said at the beginning of your potential of you may have to blame.

Them twice talking to Lane Kiffin, old miss head coach.

Got a bye week and then you'll be at Florida, then you host Mississippi State.

What do you think of the twelve team playoff?

I think there's a lot of good. I think keeps a lot of people excited, fans, keeps teams motivated to be in it. With everything, there's a cost and a benefit, and so those are the benefits. I think there's a cost to that. You know, teams are programs are used to, fans are used to the fifty teams win their last game. Now you're going to have if you get in the top twelve, eleven of them are no going to lose. Only one is going to win their last game. So I think that'll be a little bit different, and I think they're going to have to learn, like any system, if you just start a playoff system, that's really kind of bizarre the way it's put together about these buys and five team and where you slate and you get a home home game, and so I think I think that will have a lot of work to do because I think what probably won't happen. The top twelve teams won't get in, you know, different than an NFL playoff where the top teams and they got to get in because people are going to choose who gets in. And there's such an imbalance of conferences and what it's like to have to play every week, for instance, this conference, some of these other conversations you got to show up two three times a year really and you don't deal with the hostile environments that you deal with in this conference. So I think that that's so different that it's going to be really hard to get the best twelve teams, especially with the setup where you know, you can play in a poorer conference when the conference you're gonna get a buy and here comes you know, some some great team in a big ten or SEC that's you know, potentially even going.

On the road.

What do you think of coach Saban on game day?

Little I've seen he's done awesome. I actually left him a voiceman this morning just say, uh, he seems happy. I didn't know that he would be. That's a long time, a lot of years of a very scheduled person that is used to routine. So but he seems happy and probably a lot less stress.

The uh storming the field cost old miss again gets it's going to get even more expensive. I mean, I guess it's a good problem to have. Uh you get concerned when they're storming the field with your own safety?

No, not really. I think you talk about saving. I had a saving moment actually they were storming the field was still going on in our sid Kyle Campbell's next to me, and so I gave him an ask chewing about how do we not have a better structure for this not in place? And everybody's like, you're beating Georgia by three scorers, and so it's kind of one of those Saban chewing situations. Even when I don't know, I was channeling, and maybe it was because I was like, all right, the only way to beat George is to think like Nick.

Saban, do you have uniform approval?

Do I have uniform pro meaning like you.

Know, the the you know, color, color scheme, throwbacks, any of that. Did they have to run it by you?

I give it that to our players. It's a player's game. Players think like recruits also, So our players choose our uniform combos. We opened up when we got here, two more options for them. Just kind of when we got here, I kind of said, Okay, we got to be a little bit different here at Old Miss. You know, we're not a traditional national powerhouse, so we've got to create something that players recruits want to come play at. So let's have a really cool offense. Let's have neat uniforms. Let's play a different style. So I kind of said, kind of copying the Oregon model years ago when they started that.

I'm not sure what color that blue is. We thought it might have been Richard Petty blue. That how he painted his car. Do you have an official Ole Miss color designation?

Pow powder blue? Just powder blue? So what they say, I would say, Richard Petty blue.

The analytics and in powder blue. Over our first years here, we scored more points. I just feel like sometimes you know, you look good, feel good, you play good, and so I think it looks good. I like it, and we seem to score more points in it and play better, so the players pick it. But sometimes in the bigger games I push them that way.

Did any did they bring the goalposts back?

They were downtown? I saw that, and then somehow they cut him up because one of my son's buddies brought a piece up here. Knocking on the window last night was a piece of the goal post.

Well, do you have an ample supply of goalposts there at Old Miss that you can just, you know, bring him in. It's like if you break a backboard in the NBA, you know, you just replace it.

That's a good question. The good things we have a buy and then we play in the swamp and then we come home. So may maybe we have some time to.

Go buy some if you don't. Congrats on the wind. Good to talk to you again, Thanks for joining.

Us, all right, guys, have a good week.

Thank you.

That is mister portal at least I saw an article calling him the portal king there and certainly done great things with it.

Yes, Paul, he's so.

Important to have in college football. College football lost you know Steve Spurrier a couple of years ago, Nick Saban Harbaugh, we need characters in the game. And also he's relevant because his team is relevant. Yeah, he's just he's perfect for college football.

A couple of phone calls in here Sean and Oregon. Hey Sean, what's on your mind today?

Hey Dan, I.

Needn't get to make the best and worst yesterday and Lane Kiff and getting that win yesterday after seeing how he left USC and now he finally got a signature win, he's back on top.

That was the very best.

That's a great America loves to see that, Okay. And the worst, the worst, I want to say, was learning of the passing of one of the best play by play NBA announcers there ever was Brian Wheeler on Friday. Yeah, that love by he loved by Blazer fans. And then then Sunday we get to see the Blazers lose by forty five points and they shoot four for forty two beyond the arc.

Yep, just keep shooting him. That's what. That's what.

That's the philosophy. Hey, it doesn't matter you can't shoot him, but keep shooting him. I never understood that not every team is Golden State or the Celtics. Now, the Celtics have out warriored the Warriors. You know, they like fifty threes they attempt. It's not a big deal, yes, Mark.

And the fact that Victor is seven to four. He shot twelve three pointers last night. I know he made six, but he's gonna have some nights where he makes one of twelve.

Yeah, probably seven. Just keep shooting, Just keep shooting. Also, the passing of former USC coach John Robinson. He was a really nice guy. He's a nice man. Every time I was around him, he was just he asked you questions and like he just had a I don't know, a warmth about him when you talk to him.

I always enjoyed him. Passed away yesterday. Vince in Austin, Hi, Vince, what's on your mind today?

Hey, good morning, DP, gentlemen, Seaton guys, DP. I want to get your feedback on this Colorado having a great season or a good season seventy two. Yeah, from last year they were in the Pac twelve or the middle Pac twelve. Now they're in the Big twelve. Is it because the Big twelve isn't as strong? Or is colb actually got better. I have some watching them. I think they're very talented to the best players in college football today. But he just because they're the weaker conference, or are they actually better of combination of both.

It's a combination, Vince.

I think that Dion has rounded up some players to round out that roster because he was top heavy. You had his son and you had Travis Hunter, and those are two of the top ten, top five players in the country. They just needed to have a fuller roster. And that's why I said, if you didn't get Dion last year, you weren't going to get him this year. I also think being in the Big twelve easier schedule as well. But you know, he's not going to win Sportsmen of the Year this year. Although he won four games last year and won Sportsman of the Year, which was silly, but he's won seven. It's been quieter. It just feels like this is more about football than entertainment, and maybe that's a good thing. Doug in North Carolina, Good morning, Doug. What's on your mind?

Well, Dan, I have a possible assignment for the Eye team, and Polly, this is right up your alley because it pertains to uniforms. I've noticed in the past year this season, several times this season, a couple of times this weekend, that when a tackle is being made in the NFL, it looks like the end of giving the guy a wedgie, because there's some elastic fabric that is either hanging out from the back of their shirts or out from their pants, and the guys are grabbing onto that, and I'm just trying to figure out what is that material and why is it there. The most obvious example is if you pull up David Montgomery's touchdown run against the Cowboys, You'll see it. There's some elastic material that is giving this illusion.

I like that this is bothering Doug. Yes, Paul, of course we are.

David Montgomery he had like a towel tucked in and like it's almost like stapled into his pants. And when he almost got deepants. It also happened to Dereck Henry he almost got deep pants.

The other day.

We saw a little just a touch of crack no offense. But the bigger issue is a lot of the skill position players, especially wide receivers, wear tight jerseys and then have a long t shirt sticking out of them. This T shirt now is being grabbed and pulled and ripped. It's a very slovenly looked by the way. I don't like the T shirt hanging out underneath the jersey. But there's a lot of guys reaching for tackles and slowing guys down because there's a loose T shirt under their jersey.

I was wondering if you would do a jersey onesie, so it would you know, like if you have a one year old and they snap underneath, maybe you could do that, like a onesie that snaps underneath.

But that touchdown he was talked about with Montgomery. He has a shirt underneath his jersey that come out about three or four here.

Yes, is there a.

Male onesie? I feel like our equipment makes that less possible. Oh, I think you could do it. It goes over a diaper. Yeah, like you could have a trapdoor.

If you wanted to. But yeah, you could do a onesie, you think so, I think so. Yeah, maybe maybe we get into the onesie business. Yes, time, it would be a lot less holding.

Also, if they're just wearing a tight ones I know, gripping on it's kind of right on their skin. Can't pull on their Jersey.

Thank you Ton Trent in Virginia, Hi, Trent, ADP.

Congratulations to the Bears for doing the obvious. I saw the status this morning when the news broke. It's pretty sad that when the Bears drafted their punter, Caylen Williams texted him kind of hey, welcome, but you're not getting punch here. But somehow the Bears punter has more punching yards than Caleb Williams has.

Fast all right, all right, thank you Trent. Yes, the Bears who fired their offensive coordinator. All right, let's take a break. Got our play of the day up next.

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Let me get to Nick Wright, who just joined us.

Nick Wright, of course, the co host of First Things First weekdays at three eastern on Fox Sports One, also All Things Right with Nick Wright on YouTube as well, and Nick joins us on the program.

Why did you think the Broncos were going to beat the Chiefs on Sunday?

Well, I don't think they're going to go undefeated, or I didn't think they were going to go undefeated. At this point, you got to open it up as a possibility, and all year long I felt like there was they were going to go five and one in the division. And this game coming up against Buffalo is the only meaningful game left on the schedule. If they win this game against Buffalo, they're kind of playing for nothing. The final seven weeks, they'll be four games clear of Buffalo, four games clear of Baltimore. I guess you could say Pittsburgh could run them down, but I don't think and I really respect what Pittsburgh's done, but given their schedule, they have six divisional games plus the Chiefs plus the Eagles left, they're not gonna run the table. So the Chiefs would have four games clear of the field. So I just thought it was a game that Sean Payton's Super Bowl, Denver's defense with Vans Joseph played the Chiefs well last year. A lot of factors. And here's the other thing, kind of weird spot. The only one o'clock Sunday kick for the Chiefs all year, so it's kind of like a body clock weird, like West Coast team going east type of thing. They're not used to playing early and all of that played out, but they're the you know, one of the greatest teams ever put together, so they won.

Anyway, how big a deal is this going undefeated for the Chiefs, Well, I.

Think it would be a bigger deal if they weren't chasing what I think is maybe more impressive history. Now, obviously, if you could three peat while going undefeated, that's unfathomable. But like let me let me ask you, Dan, do you if the Chiefs were to three peat at fifteen and two, are they a more legendary team than the seventy two Dolphins?

I think so yes.

So I think it's because you're going for It would be almost as if when Lebron was chasing down Wow got Lebron into if the same night, like Lebron could have broken Kareem's all time scoring record, he was going for the single season scoring title. It's like both are cool, but one is held in a higher regard than the other. And so that's why last year I was big on the undefeated thing, and they obviously, you know, lost their very first game, because to me, that was a unique carrot as like, hey, no one's ever done this. A lot of teams even though it's been a long time, have gone back to back.

I'm wondering, and this made the rounds yesterday. Are the Chiefs may be bored a little bit and maybe bored on offense a little bit, that they like degree of difficulty and that maybe we're seeing a little malaise there.

So I don't think they're bored. I think they're practicing. I think that Listen. It is not coincidence that Mahomes has the worst numbers of his career except for in the fourth quarter, when he's the best quarterback in the league. It's not coincidence the Chiefs offense is pretty mediocre except for third downs, where they have the best third down conversion rate of any team in fifteen years. It's not coincidence that they trail in every game this year but one and then come back. What I think is for a team that knows it's going to be a twenty game season and only two or three games actually matter, they are using the beginning of games to figure out what most teams try to figure out in practice. I think most teams in practice they're like, all right, what are the fifteen plays that definitely work, Let's use them on Sunday. I think the Chiefs in games are like, Okay, what are the plays that we don't know if they work, that might get added to the play, you know what I mean what I like to call the good plays, Like it's crazy how just when they got to have it, that's when they run the good plays. And it's also why I would prefer they not have to pull these games out on final drives, because I think one of their playoff edges is there's gonna be less tape of them running their good plays than other teams. But the more times you have to activate that gear, you know, the more that gets out there. But I don't I really feel like, let me give a kind of thirty thousand feet. Two years ago, the Chiefs were fairly doubted, and by fairly I don't mean modern, I mean like it should they should have. They hadn't won the Super Bowl in a couple of years, malmes Is coming off his worst playoff performance ever, they traded away Tyreek Kill. That doubt was legitimate. They win the Super Bowl. Last year, they were somewhat fairly doubted because they truly played bad football for a six week stretch and lost games. This year, it is purely a media creation. They are the two time defending champions, with the best coach, the best decoordinator, the best special teams, the best quarterback in football, the best defense in football, the best kicker in football. They haven't lost, they've played one of the toughest schedules. But it's boring to say, well, obviously they're better than everyone else. So now it's a pure what's wrong with the Chiefs. Meanwhile, every time the Ravens do anything, it's, oh my god, is this the greatest offense we've ever seen, even though they lose a third of their games.

Well, that's not anti Chiefs as much as we won a new story.

Well, it's also, if I may, it's also, and I've said this for I will say it again. Lamar Jackson was so unfairly maligned at the beginning of his career that now folks have an allergy to treating him the way we treat Aaron Judge, which same guy, unbelievable, remarkable, historic regular season player who it's not that he's not the same in the playoffs. Every single year he is his absolute worst in the playoffs. Every athlete of my lifetime that has fit that profile is treated with heavy, heavy skepticism except for Lamar, and I think it's because, you know what, I blame Bill Pollian, I blame Pollyon. I think because Bill Pollion said he was supposed to be a wide receiver, everyone since then is still reacting, is still reacting to that.

He's Nick Right, host of First Things First on Fox Sports One, also What's Right with Nick Wright on YouTube wherever you get your podcast. We've talked about this before, where sometimes we'll look at what you do or don't do in the postseason and that affects how people view you in the regular season when it comes to awards. Like Lamar Jackson, I don't know if there is a hangover for what happened last year in the postseason or the previous year. You're going to give him an MVP again this year?

And is that fair?

Joker Yannis, you know, you win a title and all of a sudden, then you know there's hands off Joel Embiid gave him an MVP and then he doesn't act like an MVP in the postseason. Do you think that what Lamar doesn't do in the postseason is going to hurt him for the MVP this year.

Not enough for him not to win it with it, because right like this, the way I look at it is Brew on the show says this, and he's right. You almost look at the MVP race as one hundred meters dash or whatever, or call it a sixteen hundred meters or whatever. But it's staggered starts, and it's staggered starts based on how many times you've won, how you've responded in the postseason, if you're a legend, how long it's been since you've won, etc. So I think Lamar started in last place before this year. He had everything working against him narrative wise, he had just won it. He's never played well in the postseason, you know, the two biggest factors. But he's not only made up the stagger, he's now running away from the field, and so I do think it impacts it, but I don't think it disqualifies him. What is interesting as a thought exercise is what if it plays out exactly the same. What if a year from now, Lamar is now a three time MVP back to back and just had a record breaking regular season and then fell on his face in the playoffs, and next year at Week ten. He's got twenty five touchdowns, one interception. The Ravens have an even better record. At some point, I do think either folks are going to say we don't care that the award is losing some luster, or they're just going to say sorry. I know we say it's a regular season award, but there's an element of, you know, our own biases. I guess that are gonna come into play. But I feel stronger about the NFL, the NBA MVP and its historical resonance than the NFL MVP. The NBA MVP doesn't have a lot of Sean Alexander Season's Rich gannon season just doesn't. It's really the who's who of the twenty five greatest players ever with a couple. Oh, Steve Nash winning a second was weird, you know that type of stuff. NFL MVP is not that, so I don't. I'm not as emotionally attached to it as I have been with other stuff.

Bigger mess. The Jets are the Cowboys? Well, what a question?

The Cowboys are more hopeless, amazingly because there's there's no way to get out of this.

The Jets.

The Jets were the most predictable mess in the world, and as embarrassed as Aaron Rodgers should be. I got a whole lot of a whole lot of folks that are on that elite media group chat that you're on that I'm not should be real embarrassed with some of those Jets takes before the year. But the Jets, here's thing, I don't you know. We're not gonna get political on this show, but I will talk about one of the after effects of last Tuesday in this country. Woody Johnson might be going abroad again and the Jets might have a real chance of a true reset. Woody out because he's gonna be ambassadored somewhere. I'm sure he'll do a wonderful job. Chris Johnson taking over. Tell Aaron Rodgers to go home. You build around Quinn Williams, who's awesome, Sauce who's having a really rough year and I think could go in the wrong direction, but is a great player, your young players, and blow everyone out new GM obviously new coaching staff. New use your top five pick you're gonna have on a quarterback, and go fresh start the Cowboys. The Cowboys had such an opportunity to do something cutting edge. If they would have just held the line on Dak. You know what, screw it. We are going to have this be lame duck years for everyone. And had they done that, I don't think their fans would be bummed about this year. They'd be like, hey, you know, lose as many games as you can, draft a quarterback, reset around your young quarterback ceedee Lamb Micah. Instead, they signed Dak at the last minute, and now they're locked into this mediocre ish roster win healthy, They're gonna have a new head coach and Jerry has lost the plot. I mean, I don't the again, not to get political, but the Cowboys don't have a Kamala Harris to replace him with. And I know that didn't have worken out, but like Jerry is, Jerry is fighting old wars and losing them, and so that's a if I'm a Cowboys fan, this is probably the most down I've been. I thought they'd be good this year. I don't think they'd be great, but I'm like, they're the Cowboys with Dak. They win ten, eleven, twelve games every year. I know Dak's hurt, but they weren't gonna win that even if Dak had stayed healthy.

More embarrassing my take on the Jets to start the year, or your take a few years ago on Joker winning MVPs.

Okay, So, first of all, my Joker take was not wrong. Second of all, I didn't know you.

Called in one of the worst MVPs ever. Did well?

I said after his first MVP he was the worst MVP since Dave Cowens. But again, people have a very hard time understanding scale. If we get the thirty richest people in the room and I say you're the poorest, You're still rich. You're just the poorest of those guys. Now, you know, was he at that time, you know, the third worst MVP since Stave Cowen? Should I add him? Added Derrick Rose?

Fine?

Whatever. My other Joker MVP take was that I just want him to go on a legendary playoff run before he wins all the MVPs. He did, and now he can win all the MVPs. I am consistent on this the Jets thing. I didn't realize you were one of the people believe in the Jets. It's so baffling to me, Like, at its core, you have a forty year old somewhat interested in football, potential drug abuser at quarterback who just came off of torn Achilles with the worst coaching staff in football in what world? Is like, Well, that's twelve wins. I just I never see.

Seven games with Zach.

Everyone said everybody, they have a.

Good defense, they had skill position, and I thought Rogers Rogers could be a difference of two wins, maybe three wins.

I thought that Ebody says they have. So here's the thing, this is what frustrates me. The Jets had league average skill position, guys league average. People like Garrett Wilson's amazing line up the receivers in this league one through twenty, and tell me where Garrett Wilson comes in. The answer is going to be somewhere between ten and fifteen, which means about half the league as a receiver as good as Garrett Wilson. People love Brice. No one's ever loved a running back who's never had a thousand yards in a season more than they love Grease Hall. So and then there's Rogers, who was not good as last year in Green Bay. So I just think it was a I think people wanted the jets to be good. But the other piece of it that I didn't understand why people wouldn't do is part of when we're talking about the chiefs Emon and mahomes is playing poorly. We're like, man, he is such a leader, and in this league that matters so much. Nobody did seem to care about the fact Aaron Rodgers, by any objective measure, is one of the worst leaders in sports, and that that was going to have knock on effects. So I didn't mean to take a shot at you. It was really a shot at Greenberg. I'll be honest with you.

Bones, I'm not wearing it. I'm not wearing a jersey or anything. Well, I don't know what.

I don't know. I see green under that sweatshirt you're wearing. I'm not sure what's there?

That?

Sure you look great? Oh wow, what a T shirt? Is that great?

Is that?

Junior?

Yeah? All of a sudden things just changed a little bit, there, didn't they.

Yeah?

Yeah, like ten percent, yeah, ten percent off there. Yeah, you're right about Rogers. Rogers forgot what it's like to be a leader when you don't play well where you can follow me the way I play.

Now you have to actually have a voice.

Now, you actually have to lead by telling people and you know, regrouping people like Micah Parsons in Dallas.

Be a leader. Be a leader. Yeah, don't be a podcaster. Don't be Draymond Green. Be a leader. Stand up, you know.

I so, can we talk Michaeh for a minute. I don't know how much time with you?

Yeah? I So.

I just turned forty, and I found that while my actual politics didn't get more conservative, my sports politics did. I'm like a big run the ball guy. I told you this, now punt on fourth down. I also am way more annoyed by these young kids that haven't learned to win that are doing podcasts. And I really hate the person I'm becoming, but I'm kind of embracing it. I obviously do not believe shut up and dribble. I think it's an abhorrent stance. I actually have maybe the hottest Micah Parsons podcast, take imaginable. I'm fine with you doing the podcast. It just can't be about football. It has to be about things other than football. Exactly the opposite of shut up and dribble. You talk about anything you want except football. Stop ranking quarterbacks and leaving dac out or then putting back in at the bottom. Stop talking about schemes and other players like do the podcast. It's fine, but it can't be in the NFL. It can't be about football. And I also think him doing the Draymond thing of oh you guys misinterpreted me get the real story on the edge with like, man, I'm sure Bleeve your report pays well and God bless him. But to quote second time Lebron James, let's keep the main thing the main thing. Let's focus on the main thing that allows for these other things to exist.

Great to talk to you, Oh you too.

I have one last question the how do you stay tanned? Because my wife this morning turned to me and said, you look quote you look like a vampire and it's the winter, and I don't know what I'm gonna do, and you always look just wonderful.

I would leave the house occasionally if I were you, like, just get outside, walk.

Around your sports to watch.

I was just walk around New York. Okay, the sun's been out for the last month. There hadn't been any rain there. Nick, Yeah, I know, just get down good. Okay, do some exercise and I do.

I do exercise every day, but I do it inside my house.

You get out do some yoga outside or something.

Flipside is if I spent so much time outside instead of watching football replays, I'm gonna have been as wrong about the Jets as you dopes. See you Dan?

Wow?

Where did that come from a little harsh?

Yeah?

He hung up? Yeah soft?

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