Dan recaps all the action from NFL trade deadline and wonders which teams helped their case as Super Bowl contenders? Tom Pelissero discusses moves made by the Ravens and Commanders. And RGIII explains what the Cowboys failed to do.
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Every day is the Super Bowl. How's morale? Let's go our one This Wednesday, Dan and the Dan Needs Dan Patrick Show. Trade deadline came and went. Had a little bit of action there. Tom Pelsero, NFL network insider, will join us coming up a little bit. Also, Robert Griffin Junior, the third former Heisman winner. He will join us a little bit later on as well. NBA suspends Joellenbiid for three games for the incident with the reporter, So you're going to have him play even less basketball. I would make Joe Ellenbiid play three games. Maybe we start there. The first college football rankings released, we'll talk about that as well. We have the NFL octob VP.
Septem VP went so well.
Yeah, the NFL octob VP. That'll be coming up little bit later on as well. We play in or out. We got a lot of things to get to today. Shoheyo Tani has shoulder surgery, so it wasn't just it was popped out of place. He's got labram surgery, and from first hand knowledge of that, that's going to be a little more recovery time than if he dislocated his shoulder but torn labram non pitching shoulder, and I'm sure he'll be ready for spring training, all right. The Commanders got a cornerback out from the Saints, Marcus Lattimore. And if I would have said at the start of the year, hey, by the way, the Commanders are buying at the trade deadline, they're going all in, and then you'd go, well, they got a rookie quarterback dan Quinn, first year coach there, although he's coached before, and you're in a pretty tough division. Feels like you're going to have the Eagles going to be really good. Maybe the Cowboys are good. The Giants could they be good? Probably not. But the Saints gave up Marcus Lattimore. Lattimore was the pick after Patrick Mahomes, so Drew Brees was gonna take or no, Sean Payton was going to take Patrick Mahomes And that's when the Chiefs went up and got him. And then he said, look, if he was there, we were taking him. Instead, they took Marcus Lattimore, who is I think a three time All Pro. I mean, he's a really good defensive back. The Steelers get Mike Williams, I found it interesting. You know, we do give credit to Aaron Rodgers that he's running the Jets. He was on the Pat McAfee show when he found out his former teammate was now being traded.
Mike's good guy. He'll be he'll be good in that locker room. Obviously, I had a lot of great veteran leadership. He's he said, a nice career, and sometimes change the scenery is is great for great for certain guys. I mean it was great for me. It's fun kind of get Rian Reanthus and stuff. And you know, we kind of knew with DeVante coming in that there'd be less targets for everybody because you know, Geez leading the league targets. Eaither to get his targets and tays dynamic players need his targets. So if this gives Mike more opportunities, that's awesome and h and we wish Mike.
Well, okay, wow, surely nice. He didn't call him out when he ran the wrong pass route and he threw an interception. But hey, you love Mike. And Mike's now going to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Even the Steelers picking up somebody, I know they did need another wide receiver. I don't know what Mike Williams has left, but better than nothing, I guess. You know. He's got a lot of wide receivers and tight ends. The Baltimore Ravens. The Ravens have probably more weapons than anybody in football right now, and that includes the Lions. So when you talk about two great offenses, it feels like the Ravens said, Okay, our defense isn't that good, but our offense is going to be great. And I want to talk to Tom pel Tom pelisro the NFL Network and ask him our teams gearing up with whatever moves they made to face the Kansas City Chiefs, because that's used to a lot of teams will do that. Hey, we're going to improve our team because we have to beat that team. And I find that what the Commanders did, you get a really good defensive back. But I looked at what the Ravens were doing bringing in another wide receiver. Gonna You're going to say, we might not be able to stop the Kansas City Chiefs, but we don't believe they can stop us either. Because you don't want to get into that one dimensional game that happened last year in the playoffs, and you want to be able to have your game plan. And it feels like the Ravens are all in on offense this year. And normally you think of the Ravens, you do think of defensive players. But they made some moves there. Now, some other teams made moves, but they made moves prior to the trade deadline. So we get caught up in what happened yesterday. Other teams made moves a week ago. But now we move on. This is it, This is who your team is the rest of the season. So we'll talk to Tom coming up. All right, Seeton Pole question for hour one is going to be what Pole question for hour one?
What kind of mood did you wake up in today?
Couldn't be better, couldn't be worse?
Back?
Football was great?
Yeah, it's a trade deadline question.
Yeah the trade?
Did your team do what you wanted them to do for the trade deadline?
Got another question? I can't even have fun. By the way, Todd Fritzy was sending notes last night during the election coverage as if he was Kevin Harlan, And if Kevin Harlan was working the election last night, he would have sounded like this.
The Vice President three with Vermont, but the former president has gone on an eighteenth three electoral vote run. The Harris campaign holds play to regroup and talk things over. We step aside for stations to identify themselves. You're listening to the Race to the White House exclusively on Westwood One.
All right, thank you out have nice So Todd to credits.
You want to talk about it.
Take a thirty and figure it out.
Todd is doing this and I'm I'm watching mac football. I just it got to the point I'm exhausted with all of the election coverage, commercials uh, you know, sides, people, pinions all that. I'm like, okay, whatever happens happens. I'm gonna watch some maced football. And then Todd starts doing play by play.
He kicked a field goal with Vermont, and all of a sudden, it's eighteen three.
I'm like, what's going on here?
Uh, it's eighteen to three an eighteen oh run team Kamala is gonna talk about.
It than you.
Thistoral College loan him out, and then I was like, all right, you made me laugh there.
I thought we'd.
Been trying to tell you about these swing states.
I thought we'd have to wait till Thursday to sort all this out. It was like, uh, nope, midnight ball game. Oh and that's it.
It's like baseball. It's a lot quicker these days.
That's it. Yeah, you know, pitch count.
Uh what if the election was best out of three and like this was the first game, and then what would the results be for the next in two days from now you have another one and then if there's a need for a third election, then you go for that. So opening round to the baseball playoff. Yeah, it's a best of three. It's spread out over a week if necessary.
All right, what's the other? What's the other?
Well, since I brought up this first pole question, Paul has sent me four.
Oh okay, Jackie, I.
Was just gonna steer away from that one. I'm going to jump ahead to a segment, but I want to get this on the record now.
I know we're doing.
Octob VP Okay later, but I'm going to put up there your mid season MVP is dot dot dot.
I'll throw out a couple.
Of options for you.
Is that okay? Or no?
You want me to just save the whole thing?
Why don't we save NFL October VP.
I'm gonna do.
This is your mid season MVP. That's a combination of September and October.
Everybody gets the trophy.
Yeah, okay, yeah, all right, mid season MVPs. Yes, that's the most Valuable Player. All right, thank you to clarifying, just in case anyone knows wondering or person. Yeah, how about Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, fella, right there.
Yeah, he's doing some nice things, doing some nice things.
How about Lamar Jackson, He's doing some nice thing, Baltimore Ravens quarterback. I heard some blowbacks and pushback out Lamar winning another MVP. Well did they say this when Aaron Rodgers won his MVPs. Hey, he doesn't do anything in the playoffs, Like we can't move the goalpost on Lamar Jackson or Peyton Manning. When he won his MVPs, he wasn't winning Super Bowls like Rogers has won. Peyton has really won. He won the other one in Denver.
But we're talking about when you win an MVP, how many times do we go, well, what did he do in the postseason? And it feels like we're trying to do that with Lamar and I don't think any I don't remember people doing that to Aaron Rodgers, Like, yeah, they usually don't do well in the playoffs. I'm not voting for him next time. He's got four MVPs, he's got one super Bowl. Now do I want to see Lamar cash in and do well in the playoffs? I do?
You know.
I don't like when you know, we go, oh, you know, he was really good. But you want to see great players be great, get the opportunity to be on a big stage. But I don't think we held that against Peyton. I don't think we held that against Aaron Rodgers. Yes, Marv, do.
You think Derrick Henry having the season Eddie's having is going to hurt Lamar's chances this season?
Yeah?
Okay, yeah, He's got incredible number.
Both have incredible numbers. I think Josh Allen is the MVP, and Jared Goff I'd put him in there as well. I just it feels like people are like hesitant. It's it's almost like when you're going to vote for a Heisman candidate, but you're like, I don't know. Jared Goff feels like I don't know, but you look at the numbers. This six game stretch is the greatest stretch completion wise in NFL history. But if I say, hey, how about that percentage with Jared Goff.
So gone two touchdowns seven percent, it's.
There's nothing there where Lamar Jackson do something, or Josh Allen will do something, Mahomes will do something. With Jared Goff, you're like, oh, man, I don't think they've dropped a pass. Wow, they're scoring forty two points. But he's not going to get the credit there. But the whole MVP thing is tricky, well documented on this show with how I've voted in different sports, different categories here, But I don't want to hear this argument. Lamar Jackson doesn't do anything in the postseason. Aaron Rodgers didn't either. Peyton had his moments, but the Patriots had his number. You win the MVP by what you do during the regular season. I have no problem with that. It gets back to the NBA. They didn't want to give it to Joker and give him another one because of the category that it would put him in, Like are you going to put him in there with Larry Bird and Bill Russell? And yes, yes, he's been the best player in basketball, not well, I didn't do anything in the postseason, Joe ellen BEIID hasn't and he got MVP. We waited for Giannis to win a title. Now you can validate giving the MVP. It's tricky like that. It shouldn't be like that, but it is for a lot of voters.
Yes, Paul, I disagree a little bit on the Rogers angle because Rogers won the Super Bowl in twenty ten, and that following season he won his first MVP. After that, not a lot of playoff victories, but he didn't get a league MVP till he won Super Bowl. So they did wait for him, and then after that his MVPs. If you look at his three that he got afterwards, and you're right, he didn't do much in the playoffs after the first Super Bowl. His numbers were silly. They were like almost impossible to ignore. Like that Joe Burrow year at LSU, he had the MVP thirty eight touchdowns, five picks in a season. Another one he had forty eight touchdowns and five picks. That might be the single greatest season of all time for a quarterback.
But if I told you he's not going to do anything in the postseason, but.
That's where Lamar is kind of You're right, but is.
That would that have affected somebody's vote? And I think it would have, yeah, because hey, look I can't deny what Rogers did. He was spectacular. Now you do get ex teammates will say, you know, he was trying to boost his stats so he didn't have intercell Like, he wasn't throwing those passes that were fifty to fifty.
I wish my Bears quarterbacks would do that. Whatever that selfish thing is.
I'm like, really, I mean, there are people who are really divided with Rogers who played with him, and they're like selfish, you know, on his own agenda. And then you'd have people say, hey, you know, I'd walk through fire for him, loved him, Yes, Paulin.
He's won Super Bowl away from being equal to Peyton Manning, an equal to all those guys. If you look at his numbers, his super Bowl is early. I think he was twenty seven when he won it, and so it's kind of way in the past. If he if he picked off one more Super Bowl, let's sa he got one in two thousands, but.
He might get it the way Peyton got it, where oh yeah, you're kind of like, uh, hey, your team won the Super Bowl.
You know that would be enough though, because his stats he has four hundred and ninety crew touchdowns and one hundred and twelve picks.
Okay, who would you rather have? Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers? You're starting your team. They're both twenty seven years of bit. Oh man, who you starting your team? Is it too early to bring that up?
That might be the toughest because there's no wrong answer.
If I threw Brady in there, does Brady separate himself from those those two? You start in your team? Brady Rogers, Peyton? How about we take a break?
Wowsult? I'm gonna add what is insulting? Oh well, you would say Tom Brady? Okay, well, who in the right mind who? Okay, I can take him off. I can take him off. We'll just have Peyton Manning Aaron Rodgers. I'm going to hit Tom Pelsero from NFL Network with that. Now, I'm gonna start his morning with that.
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. He's Tom Pelsero NFL Network Insider. You can see him on the Insiders on NFL Network tonight at seven eastern. All right, Tom, before we get started, you can start your team with Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning. They're both twenty seven years of age. Who you taken as your quarterback.
So Peyton Manning won his first MVP I believe, at age twenty seven in three so he was very much like coming into his prime at that point. I was covering the Packers in the early stages of Aaron Rodgers' career. I was on at the Green Bay Prescazette from seven to nine, so he was a little bit but below age twenty seven. He was coming into his MVP years there too. I think it's probably Peyton, honestly, just because the track record was there. You know, Aaron had gone the Juco route and then it played at Cal and they totally remade his mechanics early on you were still finding out now, you know, nine, ten eleven, he suddenly was playing at you know, the best level in the NFL. But just in terms of like the safety, who I feel most confident about, I'd probably say Peyton man.
Yeah, I don't know if there's a wrong answer. Aaron, I think was twenty eight when he won his MVP Peyton because I mentioned this, I wonder if there's gonna be a bias with Lamar Jackson because he hasn't won a Super Bowl. And it feels like we sometimes base our regular season vote on or against somebody because they haven't done well in the postseason. We do this in the NBA. You know, Joe Ellenbiid hadn't won anything that he somehow got an MVP Joker, they held it against him. You can't give him another MVP. Janni's got an MVP after he won a title there. So I wonder Lamar probably with a bias against him. And then you got what's happening with Derrick Henry as well?
Yeah, well I think that's I think that's the more compelling point Dan is Derrick Henry. If you've got two people on the same team and you can make a coach and argument for either of them being the MVP, then is either of them the MVP or is it kind of the perfect you know, collective. I don't think that the now everybody does it differently. I had a vote for a number of years and then they don't let you vote when you go to NFL Network, so I lost my vote. My procedure was I just talked to every coach and GM in the league that I could and said, like, who would you vote for on all these awards? I think other people probably just vote on gut feeling or what they're seeing on the field. I know that it's Aaron Rodgers won four MVPs and he's got one Super Bowl win. Lamar's won two MVPs without a Super Bowl win. I think that we like the new thing. I think that's the biggest bias that we see is, Hey, you know, Cam Newton had an unbelievable year, and he did in twenty fifteen, but at no point before or after that was he an MVP level type of a player. He won in a landslide in twenty fifteen. Because you know, it just gets boring voting for Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Bill Belichick I think only won like one or two Coach of the Year awards because people get bored. They like the new thing, you know, and then half the time the Coach of the Year two years later they're fired.
Yeah, but Jared Goff, you can't play any better than he's played in the last six games. These are historical numbers and they're winning it. There's efficiency. They appear to be the best team in the NFC, but it doesn't feel like Jared Goff gets mentioned when And look, I'm not campaigning for him. I just know what he's doing hasn't been done before. So the value you get for him with your team has to be factored in as well.
Jared Goff had a really weird career when you think about it. I mean, he's the number one overall pick in twenty sixteen. He plays his first year, takes over under Jeff Fisher, and it's just abysmal, and everyone in the world is saying the Rams messed up. They should have drafted Carson Wentz. This guy can't play. Sean mcveigat's there. The following year, Jared Goff starts playing all of a sudden at a really high level, and there was a lot made of, you know, the communication and how McVeigh was in Golf's here and helping him through, but Jared was learning all the way through. There, they go to a super Bowl, they get shut down by the Patriots. A year or two later, McVeigh decides, I can't win with the guy. He's the throw. I think they had to trade a first round pick to offload his guaranteed money to get Matthew Stafford. Obviously it worked on well for the Rams, because you know, they won a Super Bowl in that first year with Stafford. But for Golf to go from he's a joke to oh my goodness, he's one of the best players in the league too, he's a joke again back to he's one of the best players in the league. Like, you don't see that type of arc a whole lot here. I think that, yeah, I mean I think that that some of that does perhaps get held against people. Everybody knows. Ben Johnson's really good, Dan Campbell's really good. They got tons of weapons on that Lion's team, but they're still, you know, going out there. They lose Aydon Hutchinson, one of the best young defensive players in the league, and it doesn't even matter because they're scoring fifty points a game. I think that Jared Goff has to be considered among the MVP candidates, even though you know, if you put together the Jared Goff highlight reel versus the Lamar or pet Holmes highlight reel.
You know, golf loses Tom Pelvisero NFL Network insider, give me the best trade rumor you heard yesterday that didn't come to fruition or the last week or.
So, I would say. I mean, there's always, you know, various names that pop up at different points, and there was a lot made of you know, the Rams stuff, which was real. I mean, the Cooper Cuff stuff. They absolutely explored it. He didn't end up getting traded all of a sudden, They win three games in a row and they're like a half game back in the division lead. Now, you know, if that season goes a different direction, are we talking about Matthew Stafford potential being traded. I mean, there were definitely people speculating about that when they were one and four, but we didn't have we never had a quarterback suffer a major season ending injury. That's one of the biggest differences last year versus this year. You know, you had that early spate last year of Aaron Rodgers gets hurt right out of the gate, and Cousins gets hurt and Anthony Richardson gets hurt. Like there was this line of quarterbacks suffering major injuries. We didn't have it, so a lot of the quarterback stuff never really got ramped up just because there wasn't the need there. I would say, you know, one of the wildest trades that happened was what happened with Marshawn Lattimore. Because the Saints go from firing Dennis Allen on Sunday or Monday or Monday morning, whatever. It was a very unique statement. I think it's fair to say for Mickey Loomis where he basically says like, this wasn't Dennis Allen's fault. He's a great coach. We had a ton of injuries and we're gonna miss him. I don't recall seeing a GM say something no. There was no turn in the statement too, but we needed to make it so Mickey Loomis feels like still he's got a really good team. The one guy they were going to trade was Latimore, and credit to Mickey for you know, stirring up a market. They had four different teams. I thought it was getting done to the Chiefs that they were gonna make yet another splash. Oh wow, you know, the Ravens were in that mix, the Chargers were I believe in that mix. And then in the end, it's the Commanders, who a year ago were the big story of trade deadline because they traded everybody, because they traded Chase Young to San Francisco, and they traded Montes Sweat to Chicago to get a year later and for them to be the team that really came out of nowhere in the last hour before that trade got done and give up a third and fourth round pick to add a veteran cornerback. You know, it's a fun time to watch what the what the Commanders are doing. But that was definitely one where you're chasing all these different permutations and I did not think until the final twenty minutes or so that he was going to Washington.
Who should have been traded.
It's a good question. I'm a little bit surprised that the Browns didn't do more.
That.
That's probably indicative of the fact that they feel like they had a playoff team last year. And but for you know, the up and down quarterback play that they've had throughout the course of the season, and now with Deshaan Watson hurt yet again, another guy who got hurt last year, another one of those ones where they went through five different quarterbacks. They feel like they you know, they still could have been good. I mean, it sounded like they were willing to trade just about anybody. I wasn't surprised that they didn't trade Miles Garrett, but I thought, you know, between listen, they already traded Amari Cooper and that was a fairly significant deal. They traded Zadarius Smith to Detroit finally yesterday after after several weeks of work. But you know, between let's say, you know, Greg Newsom, I'm just throwing out names, and I thought, like made sense on paper, Greg Newsom, maybe David Nijoku, You've got some good players, Elijah Moore that you probably could get value for. I thought maybe this would be a especially knowing the Browns analytical approach, I thought maybe this would be more of a go down to build back up. They seem to be, you know, looking toward twenty twenty five, of let's get a new quarterback. Potentially you know, see where Deshaun Watson is. Realistically, they got to draft a quarterback next year, and they did pick up some ammunition. I thought maybe they'd pick up even more.
Yeah, I don't know if you can rebuild with Deshaun Watson's contract there.
It's it's a really valid point, Dan, I would say this, you know, ninety two million dollars is what they still over the next two years. Forget this year for a second, because they already paid that down. Anyway, they owned ninety two million over the next two years. That would be the most cash that we've ever seen a team eat. But we just saw the Broncos last year eat it somewhere around forty million of Russell Wilson. Just to say we are moving on, how do the Browns get out out of things with Deshaun Watson. I mean, there's several different ways this could go. One is you just say we're paying them anyway, Let's draft a quarterback, sign a quarterback, whatever, Let DeShawn come in. It's an open competition, and we see what happens and we either cut them or is the backup or maybe you know, he finally gets back and is the starter again, but we let it ride. The second option of this is you pull off a brock Osweiler style trade or you send you know, assets with the player to get rid of the player and get rid of his money. Ninety two million would be an extreme amount to trade. I mean, brock Osweiler, you know, that's always the example, because the Browns at the time took on his seventeen million dollars salary and got a second round pick out of it. Well, if the second round picks were seventeen million, well what do you get for ninety two million? I mean, you're probably throwing good money after bad literally and figuratively, if you're saying, all right, let's send two first round picks just to try to get rid of de Shawn's money. So the third option is you cut them. You just say, we're going to eat the ninety two million.
It is what it is.
We're going to take it now, and Deshaun can go on to the next thing and we are getting a clean break. That would hurt, obviously, because they put so much into this trade, in several first round picks, giving them a two or three million dollar fully guaranteed contract, taking you know, all the flak that they did, and a lot of it justified for making that trade at the time that they did it. But you know, they thought they were getting a top five quarterback. Instead they got a guy who on paper is the least efficient quarterback in the entire NFL is hurt once again, and it's played a grand total, if I want to say, it's nineteen games over the past four seasons combined. That's where they are. I think you can rebuild, but it's gonna take a little bit of you know, it's gonna take some pain. We've seen teams do it. The Bills did it early on when Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean were there. Just took the boatload of the cap consequences and everything else. They had a really down second year, but then you know, you got that thing building in the right direction. It's not impossible. It'll hurt, it's gonna be pain, but it's not impossible.
Dan, great to talk to you. Thank you again.
Tom appreciate it as always.
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He's OURG three former NFL Quarterback Rookie of the Year heispin winner, and check out his podcast Out of Pocket with RG three on YouTube or wherever you get your podcast. Always Got the Black Cowboy Hat on You Got a Sean Taylor throwback jersey as well. Yeah, okay, all right, hey man, I.
Appreciate you having me on the show. Dan. How you doing, brother good?
What's the black cowboy hat? For black cowboy hat?
Honestly, I just I've been wearing it for a few months now, being at home creating content, you know, connecting with the fans. So just felt like it was it was time to bring the cowboy hat on the Dan Patrick Show, especially with a lot of the stuff that's going on in the league right now. I just I just felt very cowboy ish, if you know what I mean.
Okay, but it feels like you're anti cowboy if you're wearing the black hat.
I mean, I did play for the Washington Commanders. I wouldn't say I'm anti cowboy. I just like to live in reality. And we all know who the biggest loser the trade deadline were and who was that? Oh it's Dallas Cowboys. Then for the Cowboys to come away with Jonathan Mingo, who I love Jonathan Mingo, the player was very high on him coming out and think that he can still be a great contributor in the NFL. But for them to give up a fourth round pick to get him when the kans City Chiefs gave up a fifth rounder to get seven times I think it was thousand yard receiver DeAndre Hopkins. The Ravens gave up a fifth round pick to get Deontay Johnson. Who else gave up some picks to get a receiver? It was Oh, the Steelers gave up a fifth round pick to get Mike Williams. Now, everyone will say, hey, those guys are older expiring contracts, but every single NFL executive that I talked to told me that it was a bad deal for the Cowboys to give up so much to get Jonathan Mingo. So when we talked about the Cowboys in the offseason, it was, hey, they're all in, and I just don't understand how they're making these moves now that their quarterback is on ir did Dak Prescott not being available, and they think that this move signing or trading for Jonathan Mingo is going to make their fan base believing what they're doing.
It's not.
It's gonna make everybody rebel and continue to laugh at the Cowboys.
Would you make of the Commanders in what they did with Marshawn Latimore.
I mean, it was just it's glorious to me. It was the stamp of approval for Adam Peters being the NFL Executive of the Year. I think he's been making win move after when move. From the very beginning of the offseason. You talk about bringing in offensive production that's veteran led with zach Ertzit tied end and Austin Eckler at running back. Noah Brown, a late pickups was their leading receiver last week. And then you also talk about what he did on the defense side of the ball, bringing in Bobby Wagner to make him the centerpiece of the Commander's defense with Dan Quinn essentially running that defense in the style that both of them know together. Bringing in Dante Fowler Junior, who's playing out of his mind. Frankie Louvo has also added an identity to that defense. Into that locker room, Adam Peters has made move after move, including drafting Jayden Daniels that has put Washington position to win this year. He basically turned Jahadan Dotson into Marshawn Lattimore. I don't know how you couldn't say that at this point in the season. This guy is the executive of the Year and I'm just so happy for the team. I'm happy for the fans. The fans in Washington, DC deserve this type of winner at seven and two, and it further proves my point of what I made earlier this year about them being the best situation for a young quarterback because coaching matters and structure matters, and they have all of that lockdown right now.
Yeah, I can't argue with what he's done and the pieces that he's had. I would probably push back and say, Brett Beach with the Chiefs is I mean, they lose players and he just plugs and plays, and they plug and play and they play well. I mean, anybody could have had these guys and they bring them in and that's where if you're looking at an MVP, it wouldn't be Patrick Mahomes, it would be Andy Reid and Brett Beach. With what they're doing with this talent, I think it's been incredible.
Yeah, Dan, it's been nothing short of amazing, and they're trying to accomplish something different. If we were giving away the Executive of the Year away at the end of the season, I think we could all agree that if the Kansas City Chiefs three peete for the first time in NFL history. Then yeah, it goes to Brett Veach. I think from the Commander's point of view, it's more of where they came from. The Chiefs have already been at the top and are staying at the top. The Commanders have forced their way to seven and two in a year where people didn't even think they would be contenders in their own division, and right now they're leading that division. But to speak of the Kansas City Chiefs, I mean the move they I do think they're the winners. You know, obviously I'm wearing the Commander's jersey or Redskins jersey. You know fans out there, I still want that name back, but that's neither here nor there. I'm wearing the Commander's jersey. But I fully understand that the Kansas City Chiefs are the team that won the trade deadline because they brought in DeAndre Hopkins. He's a receiver that helps them get closer to that three peat because it gives them two chain movers on offense. You saw what Kelsey did this past week, fourteen catches one hundred yards. Having DeAndre Hopkins there allows Mahomes to continue to have this moment of like his BS meter like not his BS meter. His I don't give a shit meter is off the radar. Right now, he's throwing a bunch of interceptions. You saw the throw that he made down the field of DeAndre Hopkins. To make that catch, that's trust. And when you've had a receiver for two weeks and you're already doing those types of things, I completely understand why de Hopp is posting pictures of Randy Moss and Tom Brady because these two could have that impact.
He's RG three. You can check out his podcast, Out of Pocket with RG three. It's available on YouTube wherever you get your podcast. We stumbled upon this question that you probably didn't think you would be answering today. You can start your team with Peyton Manning, ok or Aaron Rodgers.
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I mean, I'm starting with Peyton Manning. I like all these guys, you know. I think Peyton Manning's with the greatest ever. I think Aaron Rodgers is one of the greatest ever. I think for me, when you're building a team, you want to build the culture, and I think that Peyton Manning, over the course of his career had less issues with the media in the locker room, and I think that part of it would make you pick Peyton Manning. From a talent perspective, No, I believe that Aaron Rodgers is overtly more talented than Peyton was. But when it comes to their personalities, when you think of Peyton Manning, you think of commercial and him being funny, his massive forehead, whatever you want to think about, right, But when you think of Aaron Rodgers, if you go negative, it's some of the locker room distractions. It's the darkness, retreats, it's it's the missing of of you know, off season workouts at times, even though I didn't have a problem with that this past offseason because he was there every single day for all the other days of the offseason. So I would just say their their ability to manage the media is something that is a big deal when it comes to being a franchise quarterback. So I would I would start with Payton Manny.
If I threw Brady in there, yeah, I mean I'd go, it's all Brady.
I think guy's got seven rings.
I'm just I'm just looking at if we just did talent, Oh, Aaron's got to be the most talented quarterback who's probably ever played.
I would disagree just because of Patrick Mahomes, just because of Mahomes, and I don't think that's recent bias.
I think that he's.
Proven over the career, the years of his career, that he is the most talented quarterback we have ever seen. He can do everything Rogers does, he can do everything Manning does, and he can do everything Brady does. And he's on track to to go break Brady's record of Super Bowl championships. So I would say it's Mahomes, But after that, I think Aaron is certainly within the top five. There's some guys that Michael Vick, you know, one of the most talented quarterbacks ever accomplished. No, yeah, Aaron's more accomplished, but there's some guys out there that have been super talented that maybe haven't put up the same numbers as Aaron.
The college football playoffs, the brackets came out, yep, and I love the fact that you got Indiana against Tennessee, Boise State, Ohio State, Alabama, Texas opening round, Notre Dame Penn State, and then you can't help but notice waiting in the quarterfinals is BYU Here. People are gonna they're gonna lose their minds. If if you have Texas or Alabama, these schools the blue bloods, and BYU is there waiting, they would be waiting for the winner of Boise State in Ohio State in the quarterfinals. What do you make of the first showing of the rankings.
I just think what you just mentioned, Dan is exactly why it didn't matter if it was four teams, twelve teams, or thirty two teams. People are always going to have a problem with whatever the end result ends up becoming. BYU's earned that spot to be and have have a bye week with the way that they've played, and no one should be upset about that. The beauty to me of the twelve team playoff is the fact that we're going to see matchups that we traditionally wouldn't see at higher stakes, Not in the regular season, not the first week of the season. But these are going to give teams like a Boise State with Aston Genty, who is the leader for the Heisman Trophy right now, despite popular or the waves of support behind other players, this guy's on pace to break Barry Sanders rushing record, which is unheard of. So I want to see those matchups even if it is against one of the vaunted blue blood programs, they still have to go out and earn that week in, week out in the College Football Playoff when the stakes are at their highest. A couple of years ago, who saw TCU with Max Duggan having an opportunity to play for a national championship. Yeah, I don't think anybody did. So. I think that's the beauty of it. College football is getting closer and closer to March Madness. We just can't have that many games because obviously these kids can't play a thirty game season.
Yeah.
I think we're eventually going to get to the NFL model, and I think you're going to have these teams that are on the West coast, So the Pac twelve teams, you know now in the Big Ten, they're going to be playing regional again. So we're going to go back to this eventually where you'll have teams in the Midwest, teams in East Southeast and just like the NFL, and you're gonna be playing each other twice and then you'll play you know, the the Midwest. One year it'll be it'll be that model. I think we'll have, you know, maybe forty teams and you know there's gonna be revenue sharing and everything that goes along with that. What was the most money? What was the best offer you got from a school coming out of high school?
I mean they were not paying when I was playing, Okay, because Dan, if they were paying when I was playing, you know, my family is financially secure and very well off, but the amount of money that we'd demanded to bring in at that time would have been astronomical. I will tell you a story, though, I did get pranked one time one of my offensive linemen. We were about to play TEXTA A and M my my freshman year big rival obviously Baylor and AM don't play anymore, but a big rivalry at the time, right down the road from each other. And he told me, hey, you know, last time last year when we won this game, I came back to my apartment and there was like two thousand bucks in a double day out front of my apartment.
And I'm like, okay.
He's like, hey, man, if we win this game, I wouldn't be surprised if that happened to you. So we go, we win the game. You know, I throw for like three touchdowns. We're balling out. We blow them out. I literally sprinted back to my apartment. Dan, I was so ready to see that duffel bag of fifty K. And when I got back to my point my apartment, my offensive lineman was was sitting in the parking lot in this truck laughing. There was the funniest thing for me. But, like I always tell people, if you think that you would not have taken money if it was offered to you, especially when if you're a kid like myself who wasn't well off, you're lying to yourself. That's not a moral thing. A lot of the guys that talk on TV, you know that were players. They took money in their time. But I didn't get any of those offers. And if I did, obviously we probably wouldn't be talking about it. But I didn't get any offers, unfortunately. And that's just being honest. We got to be honest with each other.
Here, Okay. I know, I'm just surprised that nobody's offering you like a car. No no, no car offer.
No car offer. The only offer I ever got that was material was like a job to like go work at a law firm because I went to school for political science and that was my degree. That's what I got my undergrad degree in. So one school had like offered me a job at a law firm in the off season or in the summer, which is also illegal. It was illegal at the time, So I turned that down because I didn't want to lose my eligibility. But I didn't get any car offers anything like that. Now I'm not saying I am not saying that there aren't some people that I know that did, but I am not going to snitch on them.
What's the best offer? You don't have to mention a name like this guy got taken care of. He got what.
Oh, they were making five hundred thousand dollars a year, so whenever when when back then?
Yeah?
Back then?
So yeah, back then.
So I was two. That was two thousand and eight when I came out, So back then they were making five hundred thousand a year. This was not at Baylor, by the way, No one at Baylor.
Which.
The compliance the compliance team at Baylor top notch. I got a free pizza one time, and they made me go back and.
Pay for the pizza.
Okay, so I don't know how they even found out I got the free pizza, but they found out I got the free pizza.
Yeah, but imagine the Ohio State guys with Terrell Pryor where they're trading gear for tattoos like nowadays. Like if you say that nowadays, you're like, wait a minute, they got in trouble for that. Yeah, and their coach got fired. Jim Tressel, Yes.
You're spot on. And and the thing about it is, it's it's so crazy when I hear people talk about the wild wild West that college football is. It's always been the wild wild West. It's now just legal and people can be more forthcoming and they can track that information with nil earnings. That that not everybody loves. But understand that what you see now in the forefront was happening behind the scenes at a lot of major and massive, blue blood programs well before it became public.
Good to talk to you again, Thanks for sharing.
I appreciate you guys. God bless