Hour 3 – Sal Paolantonio, DP Show Shot Put

Published Aug 8, 2024, 4:20 PM

NFL insider Sal Paolantonio breaks down the most intriguing story lines as we barrel headlong into the start of the season. And Marvin wins the DP Show shot put contest to celebrate the Olympics.

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Final hour in this Thursday, Man, what a busy show. Talk to Dwayne Wade. In the first hour, Charles Barkley talks some football with Lewis Riddicks, South Palantonio, the mothership on the Philadelphia Eagles. He'll join us coming up here momentarily. Quincy Hall yesterday in the four hundred awesome and you have the men's two hundred meter finals, so you have Noahllyles trying to go one hundred and two hundred and the women's four hundred meter hurdle final.

Men's won ten hurdles.

You got basketball later today, Serbia getting sixteen against Team USA and the women's team is a seventeen point favorite against Australia.

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DP Show Email address dpat Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle ADP Show. Just got word that Rowdy Gaines, who is the voice of Olympic swimming with Dan Hicks. The three time gold medalist, will retire after the twenty twenty eight Games in Los Angeles, but his voice is synonymous with men's swimming and does a wonderful job with Dan Hicks. Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Speaking of the Olympics, you can experience them like you've never seen them before, Primetime in Paris, Tonight, NBC and Peacock. It's interesting how we look at an Olympics. When we do well, when Team USA does well, we go Man, these Olympics have been great. You could still have good Olympics. And maybe we don't do great, but it can still be a good Olympics. There's great storylines, but it certainly helps when Team USA does well. Man, these are great Olympics so far, But what do we have? Forty eight hours left with competition? And I think for the most part successful Olympics. I know, kind of a rough start there with the opening ceremony. A couple of swimmers got sick during the triathlon. Did you see where there was a guy who was in the triathlon who was trying to prepare for E cole I and that he was sort of ingesting E cole I leading up to his event.

To build up his tolerance.

I guess I don't think that's like the Olympic spirit of how did you prepare? I basically, you know, sipped on some sewer water for a little while. I'm ready to go. Seaton poll question for the final hour is going to be what it's not recommended, by the way, it is not the FDA does not recommended.

It's not against the rules, but it's not recommended.

Josh Allen is sticking up for his teammates or happy Stefan Diggs is in Houston right now, sixty nine percent of the audience say that he is sticking up for his teammates rather than slamming. Okay, Stefan Diggs. We also have who would want as your starting quarterback? Russell Wilson or justin fields right now with seventy eight percent of the vote.

You want to guess, is that what you were? Justin fields?

Yeah?

Yeah, justin fields over Russ.

This is what happens. Players know before anybody else does. The Pittsburgh Steeler players see justin fields and they have no loyalty to Russell Wilson, like they want to win. Who can help us win, who can take us to the next level. We're in the most competitive division in football, and they're seeing justin fields out there and they're not seeing Russell Wilson, And all of a sudden you start to talk, and then everybody else starts to talk, and all of a sudden, you're going No, Justin Fields does something that Russ maybe used to do but doesn't do anymore. Mike Tomlin has no loyalty. He doesn't have loyalty to Russell Wilson. In fact, he had this to say, He's open for business at the quarterbacking position.

Would you still categorize us as a quarterback competition?

If it is, how do you wait?

What happens in the practice field here versus what happens in a stadium.

Very much is a competition.

What happens in stadium is weighted heavier than what happens in acte setting because it's more game like.

He's open for business here. Once again, they're not invested financially invested in either of these quarterbacks. Both of these quarterbacks need this as kind of a jumping off spot. Again for Justin Field's second chance. For Uss, here's a third chance for you from Seattle to Denver to here, and then where do you go from here? If you want to get another payday. It's hinging on what happens today. By the way, I'm watching Officer and a gentleman last night, very end of the movie.

Obviously, yes, of course, so at the.

Very end of the movie, and I'm immediately looking at Lou Gossip Junior, who won an Academy Award for that, and I'm thinking Mike Tomlin when I hear Mike play Mike Tomlin again, and I for some reason, I was channeling Lou Gossip Junior.

Would you still categorize this as a quarterback competition? If it is, how you wait, what happens in the practice field here versus what happens in a stadium.

Very much is a competition.

What happens in stadium is weighted heavier than what happens in a practice setting because it's more game like.

Yes, drop and give me fifty Mayo, Nase, watch your d R. Russell Wilson.

That's a fun movie, you know, except for what happens to is his partner, David.

David Keith, I would say fun. Uh, I mean.

Does the movie hold up, Paul, Yeah, because we've been we've been having these moments here where like Seaton said, The Usual Suspects doesn't hold up the last time he watched it, and then he watched it again, he goes.

You know, secondly, I think, yeah, I loved it when I first saw it.

Yeah, I did too, Yeah, loved mister McManus.

All right, we'll get to finister. Who got flicked the cigarette in that movie? Stephen Baldwin. He actually got flicked by the other character. He got hit in the eye with a cigarette in in the movie, But in real life, character's name was Redfoot who hit any Yeah.

South Palatonio, ESPN national correspondent covering the NFL for Sports Center. He is a popular guy and a special new edition of South Pald's successful book How Football Explains America. You got contributions, conversations, a lot of influences here, Bill Belichick, Bence Lombardi, Paul Brown, Bill Parcells, Joe Namath and the Manning family. South palachining us on the program. All right, let me start with your Philadelphia Eagles. How did we get to this point where story comes out? How last year was a mess? And as we move forward, where are we with the Philadelphia Eagles.

Well, I think people dan are still trying to figure out the forensics of what happened in twenty and twenty three. I mean that the collapse never seen anything like it before what exactly happened. Congratulations to my colleagues at ESPN dot com, Tim mcmadison, Jeremy Fowler. I think they did a good job of really uncovering a lot of new information there. But the bottom line is where does the team go from here and how do they fix it? How do they repair the relationship between the head coach and the franchise quarterback. It's going to be a fascinating season. As a guy who used to wear number eighty one used to say, get your popcorn ready, Dan, get it ready.

But why the split?

Why is it that the head coach and the quarterback aren't on or weren't on the same page at the end of last year.

You know, it looks like it's x's and o's only approach on offense. Jalen Hurts. You know, give Jalen Hurts a little bit of credit here. He's had five different play callers in his ear since he became the full time starter. Doug Peterson, Nick Sirianni, Shane Steik, Brian Johnson and now Kellen Moore. Five guys. And you know in year two that they were together with Shane Stike and calling the plays. They went to the Super Bowl where three points away from beating Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl last year. You know, they made major changes on offense and defense, and the offense didn't evolve. Obviously, the proof is in the film study. You know, I'm on the Matchup show. We do a lot of film study at NFL Films in preparation for that show. And we also saw it happen in real time. Jalen Hurts brooding on the sidelines, this guy yappen at that guy. Guys not wanting to talk to the press after the game because they didn't want to say something they shouldn't. So it happened in real time, and now we're beginning to understand.

Why Jalen Hurts a great quarterback.

Yes, he's a great quarterback. He's a great quarterback for this time you were just talking about justin fields. Dan, We're in a blitzing league. Number one two. Dan, We're in a league where the highest percentage of games ended in one score. It's a one score league. It's a blitzing league. Your quarterback has to be able to you know, ski off peacet He's got to be able to make second reaction throws in second reaction plays. Why do you think Justin Fields is raising eyebrows and wowing people at Latrobe, Pennsylvania, at Steelers camp is because he can move like Russell Wilson used to be able to move. You just made that comment. That's clear to everybody. You have to have a quarterback to get away from the pass rush. The pass rush has never been more relentless. There's never been more blitzing in the National Football League. The pass rushers have never been at a greater premium. They send waves of bodies after the quarterback. He's got to be able to run in the first quarter and the fourth quarter. You look at these Super Bowls, they're all one in the fourth quarter. Why did the Niners lose in overtime Because Brock Purty couldn't get away from Chris Jones. That's the bottom line. The Niners didn't hold up in their past protection. So yes, short answer, yes, Jalen Hurts is a great quarterback for this time in the NFL, and he's perfect for what's going on in the league right now.

How does the NFC East play out, Well.

Here's an interesting thing about the NFC East. Man So the league, because it's a one score league, and because teams are overdrafting quarterbacks and missing so much on quarterbacks. We've never had this much upheaval in the NFL back to back years where you had near seventy different quarterbacks start an NFL game. And now you have a league where in the off season you had seventeen new offensive coordinators, sixteen new defensive coordinators, sixteen half the league, including four new defensive coordinators in the NFC East. Now I've been covering the NFC East for thirty two years, I can't remember a time we had four new defensive coordinators in the same division in the NFC East like this, if you're a quarterback, you got to be able to really study film. Cliff Kingsbury just talked about Jaden Daniels really being a film study rat and the fact that he's very impressed with him in the classroom. And there's a reason for that. He's got Mike Zimmer coming at him, he's got Vic Fangio, he's got a new defense in Shane Bowen in New York. So these quarterbacks in this division have to be ready for anything at all times, all four quarters, for every week of the season. And I think it's really important right now to have a quarterback in this division who can get out of the way of the rush, and I think that's what sets up the Eagles really well.

We're talking to South paler Antonio, ESPN national correspondent covering the NFL Sunday NFL Countdown and NFL Live Fantasy Football. Now, tell us a little bit about the book, the special new edition of your book, How Football Explains America.

Yeah, thanks for mentioning the book, Dan, I appreciate. I sent you guys some copies and I'm you know, it's still August. Get on the beach.

You read it.

You know, it was really popular when it came out, and the Triumph Books, my publisher, said hey, let's update it and re release it. The bottom line is that the book tries to discover how and why the game was created and how it evolved through different cultural influences in the country, the immigrant influence at the turn of the century, the military influence in the United States, African American culture's influence, the influencer television and the sixties, all through the decades, and how football also influenced those decades and those events. So we try to take a big view of why the game changed and how or why it was created.

Is there kind of a an X marks the spot of when football became America's pastime? Can you pinpoint a time, moment, event year.

People have different answers for that right. Some people say, you know, Mark Bowden's great book on the Giants and the Baltimore Cults, and how much of that was you know, the signpost to make football a television event. Other people say it was Nameth Super Bowl three. Bottom line to me, it was the Packers in the sixties, the way that Vince Lombardi and Bart Starr the Green Bay Packers dominated the game and made it appointment viewing on CBS television right after, right before sixty minutes, and how you know, it was just the place you went to see sports, especially the NFL. I think was very, very big. I think that was an important point too.

Yeah, because Joe Namath made it more than just a football game. He's probably the first guy who made it more than just Hey, it's this underdog. Now you had David versus Goliath. Nobody was given the AFL credit. Who's this guy, Joe Namath, brash guy, good looking guy.

Now all of a sudden.

It just felt like the ground swell was different than here comes the Packers sweep or bart Star to you know, Boyd Dowler, No.

Namath was super important. I mean, Sports Illustrated is about to put out the fifty most important games in NFL history. And the editors asked me to write the blurb on the first Monday night football game, the Jets versus the Rounds with Joe Namath. And the way I wrote the blurb, Dan, I hope the editors don't get mad, I'm giving it away a little bit. I said, wait, what did my old man just tell me? I get to stay up at nine o'clock and I get to watch NFL football and oh, by the way, it's the messiah Joe Namath on television on my television set at night. I get to stay up after the Waltons and watch football.

At you know. But the thing is about Nameath.

He didn't have a great career, but he went into the Hall of Fame because he won that one game. Because if you look, Lenny Dawson was a better quarterback than Joe Namath. If you look at the numbers, team success in my opinion, but Joe went in that game was so important. That's why I think he went into the Hall of Fame because he beat the Colts.

Sure, it's like saying Jimmy Hendrix is a better guitar player than George Harrison, but hey, Harrison goes into the whole thing. But you know, Namath is the only quarterback to win Super Bowl MVP without throwing a touchdown. Passing a Super.

Bowl yeah, sixteen to seven the final there, yeah, yeah, who was it, Mats Matt Snell scored the touchdown?

Matt Snell? Correct?

Yeah?

Or correct Johnny sample with those with those interceptions on the.

Back of the end zone number twenty four.

Yeah, And I always felt bad the impact that had on Johnny Unitas as well and Earl Morrile because the Colts were the big, bad, you know, but slower. You know that the Jets were the sleeker. And I love the AFL.

Love the AFL, oh God, absolutely loved it. But you know this the contrast between Bart Starr. He was John Glenn in a crew cut and then here comes Joe Namath, and it was it was like the sixties writ large.

But you have the AFL. The NFL is like the AFL now, just like the NBA is a lot like the ABA was. So these these secondary leagues are you're not as good as us? They ended up adopting a lot of that. And if you watch the AFL, it was a passing league. Yeah, they were up and down the field.

It was great.

Yeah. You know, I went to the Long Island Arena to watch the nets and I could never have my game, sort of feel like Julia Servings. So I chose Billy Paultz.

Who was the thumper?

Was that his name or Wopper Wopper Mopper thumper, Billy Poltz. Uh, we'll talk to you during the season. Great to catch up with you again. Good luck with the book. It's How Football Explains America From South pal Antonio.

Thank you, buddy. Okay you Dan Soupal. Yeah.

Watching the AFL now, I grew up Cleveland Browns fan, and because we had Jim Brown, Leroy Kelly. But to be able to watch the AFL when I went to move to Cincinnati and the Bengals got their franchise and we didn't go to watch the Bengals, we watched the team the Bengals were playing.

God, I love the AFL. It was just you were bombing they were throwing deep loved it all right, Well take a break, come back after this Dan Patrick show.

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He's a guy with small hands but a big heart. How about a round of applause for Marvin he won the shot put contest here? Yeah, Mark, Wow, big shoulders there, Yeah, big shoulders carrying a show. We did the shot put the last two hours. We needed an hour in between to recover. You guys, are your shoulders are going to be on fire later on going to be Yeah, they're on fire now.

Yeah.

So Seaton got the silver, Marv the gold, and Paulie and I agreed that we tied for the bronze.

Yeah.

Didn't the high jumpers do this the last Olympics where they're like, uh, we both tied, Okay, let's hug it out. We didn't want to put off so Todd, Oh, yeah, I didn't want to. I didn't want to get that shot put again. Sixteen pound shot put. Todd respectable the second time around. First time around was not good, not good. Went you dribbled it about maybe three.

Feet though very much in the last place.

Yes you were, Yes, you were, but respectably last once again, your last in this event.

You're still one of the best in the world.

Personal best, Yes, I threw your personal best are yeah, personal records.

Uh. Todd wants to provide Olympic themed meat Friday. So we're trying to come up with recipe inspirations for Tyler tomorrow on the trigger. Do you have some these?

We did the onion rings and the gold you competators, how about medallions of beef.

Met old and medallions of beef. Okay, butterfly steaks, steaks presented in butterfly fashion.

That's kind of nice.

I think it's I think it's shrimp. I thought they butterfly your steak, right, I think they I think they do that with the shrimp. I don't know if they do with that with this steak salad. One thousand island dressage.

Wheaties.

Can you do anything with leading me? Sprinkle it on the on something and a bad mutton.

Mutt mutton well mutton letuce and tomato sandwich muttains.

All right, Thank you to uh Luke and Charlotte Luke. Thanks for holding bud. What do you have for me?

Hey, guys, return of the steeple chase apologists here. I just wanted to give you guys props for keeping up the good word talking.

About the best event in the world.

What an electric race it was last night, had one of the front runners getting a face full of track in the last two hundred meters USA slipping the silver medal in there. It's everything you could have dreamed for.

Thanks, have a good week.

Thank you Luke. Yeah, we've come in.

It feels like every morning and we're like we just noticed some event and Todd goes, you know that one where you jump over something and then you there's a puddle of water and I go this steeple chase.

He said, yeah, why are they landed like a little foot pile of water. It's so bizarre. Chico in Baltimore, Hey Chico, Hey Dan.

How you doing.

Hey?

These Olympics, some of them, don't you know that they should remove skateboarding and remove stuff like mountain climbing.

And I mean mountain tming and mountains that yeah, removed that, remove breakdancing and all that other stuff.

Well, they're trying to get younger audiences. That's why they went to the X Games events because they the Olympics were getting too old, they were aging out. And to get a younger audience, a bigger audience than you have to have, you have to have more than just swimming in gymnastics. You want to make sure that you have other events there. And if it's you know, snowboarding, the different types of events that they have there, even skateboarding now Seeton, you may think differently because this is you know, a fringe kind of counterculture type sports that you know, the the skateboarders that do they want to be in the Olympics. Is important to be in the Olympics with skateboarding, even break dancing. Every host country gets to have a couple of events that they want to put in, Like lacrosse is going to be in the LA Olympics. It's not in all the Olympics, but you get a couple that you want to put in. Your thoughts on skateboarding in the Olympics.

Oh yeah, I think it's awesome, absolutely, and I mean honestly, I think if you're going to have, uh, I don't a room for synchronized swimming or swim dancing whatever they're calling it now, which is very impressive to think that those people are doing that while swimming.

However, swansing, they're swansing.

I mean, we can make room for people to do that on skateboards too.

I'm fine with it. But I know what the philosophy is of the IOC. They need to get younger, have younger audiences care about the Olympics, because the Olympics where well, my mom and dad want to see the Olympics. It might not be as important to younger kids, but it is with the gymnastics is really important. Swimming as big as well, but it's the other kind of peripheral sports that you're going to have people who might watch that wouldn't normally watch now. I remember when it felt like the Olympics were trying to adopt some of the X Games events, and there were participants in the X Games who did not want the Olympics to adopt or you know, kind of absorb their event or their sport.

Yeah, Seed, there's always going to be that sort of like counter culture nature to it, right, and like a certain street level fashion sense to it that will always be there. However, sports like skateboarding in particular, their popularity sort of ebbs and flows, and like once a decade it gets really popular and then goes away for another eight years or something. So in order for people to really make a living skateboarding, you kind of need you can't depend on the X Games because the X Games is eventually going to run out of cash too, you know. I mean even you see how it's downsized over the years now, it's really not nearly the same as what it was. So if you need money flowing into that sport, and every four years you can have a reminder that, yeah, nigeh. Houston is still killing it, then that's a good thing.

I remember when the X Games were hatched.

I was at the Mother ship and all of a sudden, I remember talking to one of the executives and he even said, he goes, I came up with this idea.

And he said, what's the idea, he goes.

Which probably doesn't interest you, but it's gonna it'll be interesting.

To your kids.

I said, okay, and then he started to explain the X Games, and then I go, all right. I didn't think that it would grow in metastasized to what it became, because it there was a time when the X Games felt like it was rivaling the Olympics, you know, certainly here in the United States, but then you had all these other countries that wanted to be involved in the X Games, and now you have Winter Acts, Summer Acts, and it was a big deal. But I just remember, you know, I'm never good on those ideas. When they go, hey, you know what we're thinking of doing, I'll be like, yeah, good luck with that.

Nineteen eighty five.

Ninety five, yeah yeah, wow, And I was, you know, that was the peak of my Sports Center days, and I just remember it felt like ESPN couldn't do anything wrong. That whatever ESPN was going to do, Remember, they had the like the Lumberjack games where they were throwing.

Awesome, they're cutting down trees.

And they're throwing knives and whatever they were doing, and I go, sure, people will watch, And I think that was successful for a while. Paulie and I during the commercial break, we were trying to pinpoint when the NFL sort of grabbed the baton from baseball and maybe college basketball and said, no, no, we're see you. We're the sport America's pastime. And you could probably pinpoint at least the breadcrumbs start with Joe Namath in Super Bowl three guaranteeing that they were going to beat the big bad Baltimore Colts and they were seventeen to eighteen point underdogs there. And Joe Namath was different than anybody else. He had the white shoes, you know, a fur length of a full length fur coat, had the long hair, had you know, haircut style like the Beatles, and the way through the football he was always, you know, with beautiful women, so he became more than just a football player. It became this social feeling, this wave that kind of hit the NFL and then they pulled off the upset. So if you start there, then you had the Kansas City Chiefs they ended up winning the Super Bowl the next year. Then it felt like, Okay, the AFL is here, Now what's the NFL going to do?

And you could.

Probably go from that to nineteen eighty four with Dan Marino if that sounds that he was that was different than anything we'd ever seen, Like Joe Namath was stylistic. Dan Marino changed the game, He changed the sport by his you know, five wide doesn't need a running back and he's just going to carve you up. And he just threw the ball differently than anybody else. So if you kind of start there, then I get the eighty five Bears, I get the Giants in eighty six. Now all of a sudden, I've got some momentum. I've got storylines. You got to have the draft in there, mel Kiper's in there, Chris Berman's in there. Fantasy football was taking off in the early eighties, and it just felt like there was a five or six year window where it was like, we've got everything we need. Now make sure you get as much exposure TV wise.

Yeah, Martin Madden Football Game.

Yeah, Yeah, that's a big call too. Yeah, there's there's a handful of people that you can say, you know, they help bring the game into the forefront, changed the game. But I would start with name it because I remember watching the NFL growing up, and you know, Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, you can put them in there as well.

It became more of a spectacle than just watching.

Three yards in a cloud of dust or new stadiums.

Dallas had that new stadium had the hole in the roof.

I mean we were like, oh my god, why would you build a stadium and then have a hole in the roof so God can see the Cowboys.

I was like, sure, why not.

Didn't know he loved the Cowboys, but apparently he does pretty good line.

Yeah it is Green Bay Packers, just Vince Lombardi. They were dominant.

Jerry Kramer came out with Instant Replay and that was kind of behind the scenes where we haven't really read something. North Dallas forty book that came out kind of gave you really the dirty details of what goes on in professional football. So there was you know, there were a variety of characters, storylines, teams, events, moments, and you put it all together and then the NFL has never looked back.

Yeah. Mark NFL films also with the Sables.

Good call back to back Blue Blue. Yeah, NFL films was huge because we didn't get to see all the games. If you didn't watch Monday Night Football where Howard Cosell would do the highlights and that was must see. I got to stay up until Howard was done with the highlights and then all of a sudden, all right, time to go to bed. Didn't get to see the second half, but your team might have been on the halftime highlights with Howard goes sou You're like, we made it. The Bengals made it. Pauli said that there is a career NFL career that just came to an end. He said, it's a very odd career to quantify. One of the more fascinating NFL careers is over.

Okay, I'll give you a series of hints. Okay, this player played for six teams, one team twice, so you could characterize him as a journeyman.

However, this quarterback also had a season his second season in the league. He threw for twenty seven touchdowns and only two picks, one of the greatest seasons stat wise in NFL history, twenty seven to two.

So not Nick Foles it's Nick Foles.

Six teams, a backup for most of his career, different places. He also has a Super Bowl MVP versus Tom Brady. Yeah, he's not even in danger at all of sniffing the Hall of Fame. No, but he's what a fascinating career.

Yeah, yeah, go toe to toe with Tom Brady, lived to tell about it. But I think when Chip Kelly was there and his offense and Nick Foles embraced it and vice versa, and that was pretty impressive showing yes, Mark.

The crazy part about that is that may have been Tom Brady his best Super Bowl performance.

He threw for five hundred yards. They didn't punt. That's the one Bill threw. Oh do you think Belichick threw that one? Belichick threw that one. That's a loss on Bill, not on Tom. Accurate.

Yeah, can we say that, yeah, but yeah, Nick Foles, that's pretty fascinating.

M Would you say he had a great career? Great? No, but interesting? Yeah.

I think he would say he had a great career though, right, I mean not great in this sense that we're talking about like Joe Montana great, but like hell, yeah.

He had fifty eight career starts. I did well, he was.

His record is winning percentages five hundred courtse But of all of the quarterbacks who went against Tom Brady, did anybody have better numbers than Nick Foles? Because Eli didn't have great eight numbers. He had great moments. I don't know if he had huge numbers there.

Yeah.

Pauline Fowles was twenty eight to forty three three seventy three, three touchdowns and a pick us Tom.

Brady and a touchdown reception. Correct, Brady did not catch a pass, but one was thrown to him that day. Oh my god. Twenty eight to forty eight five.

The Eagles Trada by the way, Yes, yeah, Brady was twenty eight to forty eight, five hundred and five yards, three touchdowns, no.

Pick, Yeah, thankes. Yeah.

When you're down on the field and I'm we're setting up because I'm handing out the Super Bowl Trophy right after that to the Eagles, and you're watching Brady go back to pass and he gets sacked and uh, it happened so fast in front of you. But when you're watching on TV, you're like Tom, you can see the rush. When you're down on the field. I'm right behind Brady in the end zone. And it happens so quick.

It's just it's.

Mind boggling that you're he's seeing what he sees. We see it because we're up above and we're looking at it, going, oh, he's wide open. Tom's doing it well.

They all do it in real time and it's moving real fast, and I remember, God, don't give Brady another shot.

And even then we still thought he could still win that game against the Eagles, just like against the Giants when he had one more shot and he was trying to throw it to Gronk in the end zone. Watching the game from the sidelines is fascinating, just because TV does not do it justice. It slows everything down, it keeps it in frame focus here down there on the field, and you're like, who's he throwing it to? And I remember being on the sidelines when Eli has the pass to Mario Manningham right in front of me, and I'm going, I don't know how he possibly saw that, and that he caught it as well, Like it was just wild because you see the ball and I who's he throwing it? And then all of a sudden it's perfectly placed. Whatever they get paid, they're worth it. We'll take a break, last call for phone calls, what we learn, What's in store tomorrow?

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Last Call for phone Calls, What we learn, What's in store tomorrow? The Great Bob Costas will stop by the program close up Sean Pierre eight seven to seven, three DP show, Big Track and Field Day. A little bit later on, we'll, of course recap everything tomorrow. BMCAA. Well, did they hammer Jim Harball or the memory of Jim Harball, because Jim Harball now with the Chargers. I don't know if this four year punishment is really going to matter to Jim Harball. Why don't they say to Jim Harball, if and when you come back to college football, it's four years now.

Now it's a punishment. Now you won't come back.

But at least you're saying something that could impact him, as opposed to this doesn't impact him. I don't know is this going to hurt his legacy that what he did in twenty twenty one where recruiting violations like the Big One is the cheating scandal Connor Stallions, that's the one we care about, not this one. This was during the title season. This happened, That's what we care about. But the NCAA, all right, you're kind of punishing him, but then you're kind of not. Let's see Eddie and Ohio. Hi Eddie, what's on your mind today?

Hey?

Now Dpno, Hey, so, I guess I'm the second biggest Steeplechase fan because I heard the biggest calling earlier. But the steeple chase was actually a horse race in the beginning, and the water hazard was meant to some when the horse riders would have to navigate you know, small rivers or creeks or stuff like that on their fight from one steeple to be another. One reason I know any of this is because when I was running in high school, I claimed I was going to be the first person in history to ever catch the people until I did my research and found out if you're not actually chasing anything.

Thank you, Eddie, Greg and Sarasota. Hi Greg, what's on your mind today?

Hey?

Dan?

You brought up Howard Cosell, the great voice of NFL passed, and I just wish you could come back from the grave and just call one dolphin.

Game for me.

Could you imagine two tongos by loop? Thank you, Greg. Yeah.

Cosell always like almost like Stephen A does with Michael Olawa, Candy. Who is the other name that steven A would slavo?

Can't play download, can't play outside, can't play.

But Howard cose I think a lot of what steven A does, or I shouldn't say a lot, but some of it is sampling what Howard Cosell did and how he did it. Having an opinion. You know, Howard was had opinions on everything. It wasn't just sports, and so does steven A. But stare bitch eighte syllables. I remember doing an NBA draft with steven A and we're trying to sum up what the Portland Trail Blazers were doing, and he basically said, I got nothing to say. I don't know what the Blazers are doing and I don't know if they do either. And I'm going, wait, we're supposed to be giving analysis on this. You can't just tap out. But I remember he was like, I don't know what they're doing. Uh.

Brian in California, Hi, Bry what's on your mind today?

Five? Yeah. I was listening to the comparison and looking back on Nick Foles's career on how many different examples he had to go through, and I got the no risk it, no biscuit arions quote for that guy. But I was wondering if you would as his career anywhere near Dan Marino's because he has a ring and Dan doesn't.

No, no, I would take Dan Marino's career even Nick winning a Super Bowl against Tom Brady. Dan Marino changed the position. How many quarterbacks in history have changed the position. Peyton certainly did, Dan Marino certainly did. Now you can say Joe Montana because of the West Coast offense, but that's Bill Walsh and Joe Montana. How many quarterbacks did Brett Farv change it from being sort of that hey gunslinger type. I guess Tom Brady change it, made a running game out of his passing game.

I don't know.

Are there five to seven, maybe seven to ten quarterbacks who changed and Dan Marino there was nothing like that. There was nobody like Dan Marino. And he was brash his second year. I mean, you're throwing for five thousand yards. That was unheard of Hey, we're gonna have everybody up five wide. You know, we're going to pass the ball and we're going to continue to do it. And back then it wasn't just short passes. Duper and Clayton were going deep and it was fun. This day in sports history Paul.

Nineteen or three. Joe McGinty, speaking of sore shoulders of New York, pitched two complete games in one day. He won them both, and ninety two the Dream Team clinched the gold medal. They beat Croatia one seventeen eighty five. Bonus coverage Fritzy nineteen ninety eight, Paul Malader got his five hundredth stolen base.

Yeh, Molly all back Halder expert Todd, Fritz Todd.

What'd you learn today?

Charles Barkley would argue that Jason Tatum's game is better than bam lebron Nkd's.

He's also worried about the Serbia game game the shift to do see No Connor, Charles has no idea what's going on either?

Yeah with TNT after this year, Marvin Chuck is not working every night, No, Paulie.

Would you learn Charles needs some bags of cash.

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