Hour 2 – Vincent Goodwill, Fill in the Blank

Published Jun 24, 2025, 4:23 PM

NBA insider Vincent Goodwill drops by to weigh in on the Thunder’s championship and Tyrese Haliburton’s torn Achilles. And Fritzy hosts a rousing round of “Fill in the Blank.”

You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio Hour two.

On this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Nets Dan Patrick Show. Is this Kevin Durant's last stomp or just his next stop. We'll talk to Vincent Goodwill, who did a deep dive on Kevin Durant going to the Rockets. He'll join us coming up. We'll play fill in the blank this hour as well. The Pacers. Tyre's Halliburton has Achilles surgery. No timeline announced, but they are usually about a eight month process start to finish.

Used to be a year.

But you know, with all surgeries, if you think about what knee surgeries were fifty years ago, where they actually opened you up, and then you got Arthur scoptic surgery, and they've kind of mastered knees hip surgery, replacement surgery, knee replacement, Shoulders still tricky and having had both shoulders done, still tricky.

They haven't.

Mastered that yet, as both of my shoulders will attest to. But Tyrese Haliburton out with the Achilles and his social media post was really wonderful.

It was great.

Because he said, look, I do it again, and this sucks and I'm sitting here and everybody says you're going to be better, you're going to be stronger, and he says, you know the cliche, lol. But he's got a long, long road here, and that's going to be the key. Like you want to be a good teammate now is when you could be a good teammate to Tyrese Haliburton. In four months from now, you can be a really good teammate with Tyrese Haliburton. And that's just being in his life, being around him, cheering him up because he is going to have some down days and he gave you everything and you got to sit around in a hospital bed and he's probably watching Sports Center. There's going to be the victory parade with see that's where you press the button to get the nurse to come in and it's like, what's wrong, what's wrong? Get this parade off? Uh, this isn't helping my rehab. Eight seven seven three DP Show Email address Dpadanpatrick dot com Twitter handle. A TP Show stat of the day is always brought to you by Patini America, the official trading cards of this program. And pull question for hour two. We'll have that for you. Eight seven seven three DP Show Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls.

Yes, Tom Or does watching the parade motivate you even more than ever and put you in that angry state of mind. I'm gonna heal at a record rate and that's their one and done championship because I'm coming.

I don't think you're going to rehab harder like after day one.

Into yourself more.

Yeah.

I think you know, rehab you kind of have to let it come to you. Sometimes you're gonna attack it and then all of a sudden you go, oh, I made a big mistake and I did that be like, I'm gonna get back out there. I'm gonna go out there and play.

You know.

The doctor would be like, you know, you probably should take some time, and I go, I'm already playing and playing basketball. Yeah, that's not good, And it wasn't. Then I ended up having another surgery like a year and a half later. But Tyrese Haliburton, he'll have the best people there advising him, but hopefully his teammates will visit him often because that's he's going to need some cheering up a little bit. By the way, our buddy Shane gillis he's going to host the espies.

What could go wrong a lot?

When we saw him in Dublin and then you guys went to see him perform, and all of a sudden, you're like, this guy is going to be a star. And then you start to hear the backstory of what happened. It's Saturday Night Live. And then he went back and hosted, and it feels like wherever he goes, he leaves a trail of something with him, and I'm sure that he'll he'll take some shots that the mothership will be like, uh, we need you to run everything by Now.

I've been in those meetings before, and as.

Long as it's not live, you know, like plausibly live that we can edit that or whatever. You know, they need to have built in insurances that you're not going to go off the rails.

But they didn't worry about Bill Murray.

When Bill Murray was hosting the SP's and having been in there to witness the writer's room, and my boss John Walsh, who invented Sports Center, he was there and all he was kind of he was like the lifeguard.

So John was just listening like, Okay, is that bad? Could that be bad?

Could we get in trouble for that because when when Will Ferrell got on stage and started making fun of John Elway and Ken Griffy Junior, Kobe was ready to leave, like all of a sudden, things can go sideways. Norm MacDonald to me he was awesome because this Norm just didn't care and he was a big sports fan and he was he was just a funny guy to be around. But man, they start going after people in the audience and that I remember at the Mothership, They're like, you know, it's the greatest night in sports, Like we have to it's the greatest night in sports, Like we can't be making fun of people. You did have the emotional moment with Jimmy V and you know that forever changed the SPS. You had Craig Seger, you had Stuart Scott, Robin Roberts, like You've had some important people giving important speeches there. But you know, the SP's have survived, which is shocking because back when we started, we couldn't get anybody to go. And I'm going, how can this be the greatest night in sports if nobody wants to go to this thing? And it felt like if you showed up, you got an award and that's where Monica sell Us got stabbed during a tennis match, and it was the Comeback Athlete of the Year. So I'm handing the award out with Bill Murray and Bill shows up and he doesn't even know really what's going on, but he's going to be great because he's Bill Murray. And even Bill goes and the winner is Michael Jordan, and Bill Murray says, but Monica Sells got stabbed. All Mike did is come back to the NBA. But you get a whole lot more publicity if you're giving an award out to Michael Jordan than Monica sell Us. And even Bill even said to Michael, it's like, Michael, she got stabbed.

That's crazy, dude.

That's when I knew the voting might be rigged, just a little of it. I got behind the curtain. I go, wait a minute here, if you showed up, got an sp Yeah, Paul.

Just this just in from PR to ESPN.

The SPIS is live this year occasion. It's taped. Sometimes it's live. This is a live with Shane Gillen.

Okay, not plausibly live.

It appears to be actually live.

Okay.

Wednesday, July sixteenth.

Okay, it's the greatest night in sports.

Is he a one and donner?

Yes?

I feel like he's purposely one and done in this.

Yes, probably so. Yes, Oh I said, I wouldn't have cried.

That.

That's good. What about Nate Bargatzi.

He seems like he would be a great host for the Spies, Fritzy, you're big fans.

Great?

Yeah.

I love his delivery and he's very self deprecating about how he doesn't know what he's doing as a husband or a Father's good stuff.

Yeah, and it's you know, it's family oriented his stand up act, right. I don't think he ye different language. Yeah, like Brian Reagan, they don't go blue. But you know, Shane Gillis, you're host to the sp Yes, Paul.

The first time I saw a clip in Nate Bargatzi, Everyone's seen this clip. He's like, you know, in your twenties year, let's go, We'll go anywhere. I'll go nowhere. Then you get your thirties, he's like, where are we going? You know, how about how you age and you behave differently with your friends.

It's a great bit.

Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America the official trading cards for the Dan Patrick Show. Let me see, oh did we get to the pole question? For a hour or two, we have a quick NBA quiz as well.

I keep I'm currently like deep diving on Monica Seli's not winning the Spofo come Back Layer after being stabbed, Like, I just can't believe that that's true.

She got stabbed? Yeah, like pretty good. Hey, you were nominated. That's an honor.

But Michael, Michael came back, just came back to the NBA. He went to play baseball. It's not like he went to Afghanistan. He came back from the minor leagues.

What a hero. It's not it's easy to do that. Apparently not. Apparently not.

The recent series of Achilles tears in the NBA dot dot coincidence or there's a valid reason right now, sixty six percent of the audience say a valid reason for it.

Well, we'll talk to a doctor, Mark addicts, he's been a long time sports orthopedic surgeon. We'll ask him about this, because I don't know, just a coincidence. Joe in La, Hi, Joe, what's on your mind today?

Good morning? DP? Hi Joe five five eight one fifty. Yeah, I think you're hit it toward. My question is the you know.

Twenty years ago the ACL was a big deal, and fast forward, you know ten years ago, Tommy John both are all pre routine surgeries now. Seem like love to hear what the doctor to say about what the achilles recovery is going to be and the surgery's gonna be going for ten years from now.

Thanks, Yeah, all right, thank you, Joe. Yeah, I'm curious because when he suffered the camp injury, we said it last week, he's going to run the risk of tearing his achilles, and he did. Kenny in La Hi, Kenny.

Hey, Danny, I got a couple of things for you. First, about an hour ago, you were talking about old line players, all time players, and you were thinking, well, who suffered a rut for achilles. Well, you're also talking about the sixteen ninety seventy Knicks versus Lakers, and of course, as a Laker fan, I was just crushed when the Knicks beat us in Game seven. Of course Wilke had twenty one points and twenty four rebounds in that game and read it for but we couldn't stop Clyde. So the next year as an eight year old, I'm very excited to see the Lakers. Finally we get to see Elgin and Jay and Wilt together. Of course we had sixty eight sixty nine, but again going back to this seventy seventy one season, two games in Elgin ruptures his achilles and there you go, Oh, I'm great, as you know, twenty seven points the game, fifth all time points per game. And then you also were talking about the Spur excuse me, the OKAC team and having been put to the test with two seven game series, I was taking up the eighty seven eighty eight Lakers where we had to beat Utah Dallas and the Pistons. We barely survived. I was actually at that game seven where we beat the Pistons one O eight to one O five, and that was the last title of Showtime. Should won the next year, but we lost Byron and Magic because Ryle decided to take the team to Santa Barbara and really worked them hard.

And thank you, Kenny close the scrap book. Yeah, I knew Elgin had a bad knee. I didn't remember because I saw them in seventy one seventy two in person. I saw the Lakers when they came into Cincinnati, but yeah, Elgin Baylor, that was a guy who.

Missed the TV era.

You know, there's a few there's probably five or six that they missed out on that and as a result, we kind of history hasn't been kind to them as they should be.

Zach and Iowa, Hi, Zach, what's on your mind today?

More?

Damn?

I called in a couple of weeks ago after as an iows Stay fan and a Thunder fan. After Tyree's hit the game winner, he talked about how bearsweet it was, and then again last night to just kind of tailed, you know, book nd the series, it's the opposite side of it. Pitres sweet for a different thing, and it just in a way kin't want to they ruined the game, but it just it was hard to enjoy it knowing what just happened. And I wonder if there's you know, some other series in NBA history that kind of remind you of that. The one that comes to mind for me is the Raptors when they won the because with the injury, it's hard to enjoy the other side of it though, you know, forward looking and trying to enjoy it is you don't want to assume that you have this long window and these long runs to win multiple titles. But I do have hope that the thunder have almost a Spurs era to them in the fact that you have these young guys, a front office that gets it, and guys that seem to understand what is in front of them. And I'm hoping that, you know, in this new era of sports, they're able to hang on and understand that a little bit of sactifies here and there can be so worth it for the legacy of their careers.

Yeah, but I don't know if they think that way. Thank you, Zach.

You get a championship and then you start to think about getting paid or you want to have your own team. I mean, look what happened with Kyrie with Lebron, And look I understand where Kyrie's like, dude, I put up forty, I had the game winning shot, and it's about Lebron delivering a title to Cleveland. And then what happened with Kyrie. He went to Boston, he wanted his own team. Well, he's not a guy who is going to lead a team and he found that out the hard way. But he's probably saying, wait a minute, Lebron comes back as the conquering hero. And I've been here, like I understand all those things. You know, I don't know if Jalen Williams is going to go.

You know what I don't.

I don't want to be Pippin' to Jordan Chad Holmgren. He's injury prone? Can you keep him healthy? Can you keep is.

Lou Dort going to play for somebody else?

Like?

You just never know. I mean, look at Boston. Boston was on the verge, not anymore. Cleveland may never get back there.

You just never know.

What san Antonio had is they had personalities who they understood the spur Way if you, for the lack of a better description, they understood, you want to play for championships. We can play for championships. Tim Duncan almost went to Orlando. He almost signed with Orlando. So you did have Ginobili and you had Parker. Would they have been stars on other teams, not as big as stars they were in San Antonio because we got to see them in you know, championship games. You know, that's kind of the like Robert Dorry, he played on great teams. He had moments. That's why we remember him. If he averaged seventeen a game for his career, no one would remember Robert Dorry. Now we remember him as one of the great clutch shooters in the history of the sport. Steve Kerr was nobody got to the bulls, knew what he was supposed to do, hit a huge shot, won a title. John Paxson in his brother's shadow, you know, wasn't going to be a star or any plays. Knew what he was supposed to do with Jordan hit one of the biggest shots in NBA history. But you have to understand how good am I, where do I fit? What do I want to do? And do you want to have that we're going to keep winning championships? Is management going to want to continue to win championships? Because that's another thing. You got to have management all in on this too. But you got a great GM, you have a great base, great foundation. But you won one title. That second one will be tougher than this one. We'll take a break, We'll talk about the rockets, We'll talk about what happened with that trade with Kevin Durant. Is this his last stop or just his next stop? That question will be answered next. Dan Patrick show.

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Vincent Goodwill Junior, the third y'all Who's Sports Senior NBA writer, host of the Good Word podcast on y'all Who's Sports Ball? Don't Lie in Serious XMNBA host and he joins us after doing a deep dive on Kevin Durant going to the Rockets. Why is Kevin Durant on the Rockets?

Does he wants to be?

I think that's the easy explanations to say. That is because clearly amongst the team that he listed, the Rockets were the team that looks to be a Kevin Durant away with the young talent, the coaching, the pedigree from being a real threat in the Western Conference. Like Aman Thompson is real and an alparin Shingoon. I don't know how he fits in this iteration with Kevin Durant, but he's a talented player. Jabari Smith like, they have so many young pieces and still so many young unearthed pieces yet to be explored that you add KD there, If he is a reasonable semblance of what he's been, they're a real threat in the Western Conference next season.

How does Phoenix not get Thompson Reed Shepherd or like it felt like the Rockets were like, wait a minute, who do you want this trade?

Sure will do that.

That is the art of negotiation, Dan, That is where the player sometimes controls exactly what iteration appears for him because he wants to go to a team that still has enough place like look, Thompson's going to be a non starter. And what works against Phoenix here is that Kevin Durant is thirty six years old and the max he can sign for an extension is going to be two years. Dan, we don't have a president for a player who's had Liz Frank. Remember that the Liz Frank is what got Bill Walton and achilles injury, which is what Tyre's Halliburton at and an MCL. People forget he had an MCL his first full year or second full year in Brooklyn. There's no president for the long jevity of these old guys being able to hang around and play at a championship level. So you do have to find a way to mitigate some of that risks. Like I know, the numbers look great on paper, fifty to forty ninety across the board, but it looks different Dan. If you go look at Kevin Durant in twenty fourteen when before his first real injury, when he put up fifty against against the Golden State Warriors, he looks so fluid that athleticism popped off the page. Now he's a guy who's going to be thirty seven years old, and once again there's no template for this. We don't have any president for this, so we don't know what this is going to look like or what it's supposed to look.

Like I'm going to ask you the question that you ask in your column. Is this his last stomp or just his next stop?

Well, Dan, it's hard to say, because I thought Brooklyn was going to be the last stop. I thought Phoenix was going to be the last stop. So I'm not going to box in Kevin Durant. I would just say it feels more likely. I don't know if Kevin Durant wants to be Lebron James playing until he's forty two, forty three, fifty five years old to claim every record or whatever it is for this mythical argument. I think Kevin Durant's going to play as long as his body tells him that he can play, and he can play meaningful basketball. You can only judge these guys two years at a time because that's the length of their contracts. These who's going to their forties, Dan, they need to be like sitting up somewhere next to you, reminiscent about the good times them. Need to be out there chasing around these forty year old these twenty five year olds. What's their problem?

The Achilles injuries? Coincidence or something more to it.

Maybe a little bit of both. I think what we cannot quantify, Dan, is the amount of miles that these players have on their bodies well before they get to the NBA. We think of their old dometers starting once they get to the league. That's not the case at all when you're playing AAU basketball all those games today, the personal training, and here's the other thing, this is the age of specialization. These guys aren't playing football, baseball, track, all these other things to work different muscles. They're playing one sport and it's starting that and it's starting that mile trajectory really really early. I don't know how to do that. I do know this, the next time someone has a calf injury late in the season, sit they ass down.

Period.

Yes, but we said that. I said it last week. I said, you know, you're not careful, you're going to tear your achilles. And we've seen this with Durant. You've seen this with Dame, We've seen this with Tatum. I don't know, it just feels like there's something else.

Now.

Granted, Aaron Rodgers wasn't doing anything, just back to pass. Dan Marino when he tore is just going back to pass, So it's not all These are incredible athletes and they're cutting in you know, all the mileage on there. It's it's weird, you know that it can happen to a quarterback just going back to pass.

I mean, here's the thing. Something's always going to be hurting on you as an athlete, and usually it's around your calf, or it's ten tonight it's or it's something that you're used to managing. I'm not sure. Dan Marino tor he is in what ninety three if I remember correctly, or ninety four, so he's like ten years into his career. That's not necessarily common. Dame Lillard, that's an old man injury for him, Isaiah Thomas, that's an old man injury. Dominque Wilkins, old man injury. These other guys. It's not old Tyre's Halliburton. It is, you know, explosive athlete that's jumping around. But when you have a calf Andrey remember Luka Doncic had a calf injury, and Dallas that we kind of wonder, okay, is he in good enough shape? And all these other type things. All these injuries aren't created equal, they aren't birth by the same things, but they do produce the same risk, and we have to look at them like this is a risk, especially when you're playing one hundred games into a season and Dan the game is moving so fast. That's what you gotta be careful.

Talking to Vincent Goodwill, he is the Yahu Sports senior NBA writer's latest article has to do with Kevin Durant with the Rockets. I'm curious about the Spurs if they're taking Dylan Harper, so that backcourt's pretty crowded. So I got the Rookie of the Year, I got dearon Fox, and it feels like somebody is not going to be long for San Antonio.

What are the Spurs gonna do well?

Talking to people around the league, the Spurs are the team that they're like, Okay, keep an eye on them, because the Spurs like to keep things to the best. They're not going to go out and telegraph their moves. Remember we didn't see the darn Fox trade happening. They were like they already got they already got a young guard there, and then he added another one, right, so I wouldn't be surprised, like there have been instances where I don't know if you remember this stand the Phoenix Sons of ninety seven had Kevin Johnson, a young Steve Nash, and Jason Kidd, and they wound up working out that. You know, kJ was a little bit older, Steve Nash was a little bit unfounded at the time, and you kind of let these things work themselves out. You take the best player available. Like I don't. I'm not a believer in reaching, but I am a believer in the Spurs having number two and number fourteen. I think they had number two hoping that Kevin Durant would pick them and they would use that as far as draft capital in the trade. But now that they don't, I wonder if they're going to take I don't see that being a tenable thing. But also it is supposed to be a positionless league, and that what they tell us. I don't believe that, mind you, I don't believe disposition to lead. He think that's a.

It is amazing though, when you look back on the Phoenix Suns, you had three Hall of fame point guards. I don't think Kj's a Hall of famer, but he played like a Hall of famer at times. Jay Kidd and Steve Nash. But you're right, nobody knew about Nash. I remember being at a practice facility and watching Nash and I go, you know that that's the kid from Santa.

Clara, Like he's he's pretty good.

And then they've said, well he won't play here, he won't start here, and then all of a sudden he goes to Dallas and next thing you know, you know, he's somebody unique. But you didn't worry about salaries back then, Vincent. Now I got dearon Fox. What's he going to cost me? Although I get Castle and Harper on you know rookie deals, Aaron Fox is going to cost me a lot of money. So it feels like he might be the guy Jettison here.

Well he just got him.

Like that's but I think if you knew that you were gonna end up with the second pick like I, they wouldn't have made the move, probably for him, if they knew they were going to be in this situation. I like him, but if I can get younger and I don't spend money, I thought they were going to get Durant. I thought that that they realized that he can help us, he can take pressure, he can be a bucket, and but you know they're they're not yet where the Rockets are, and the Rockets might be a year away. San Antonio feels like maybe two years away from being uh oh, here they come.

Well, Victor's coming, and I think there's a difference between Victor's coming and the Spurs are coming. I think they're on two different kind of a little bit different timeline.

Will he be the best player in the game in five years?

If not him, who are you kidding me?

Well, go just.

Is gonna be there for a little while, whether you believe that, But it feels like, you know, by twenty five I think I said that he'll be the best player in the sport Victor.

I mean, why won't he be the best player in the sport two years from now? Why won't he be the best player in the sport next year? Like, do you see what he's doing. He's out there with the monks. He looks like Eddie Murphy and the Golden Child. Do you remember that movie.

Yeah, that was a bad movie. That was a bad good reference bad movie. But yeah, he's with the Tibetan monks there. But yeah, I look, I'm a big fan because he should have been Defensive Player of the Year the last two years. But I just wonder can the team keep up with him?

Is that he's well, he's not going anywhere. And here's the thing.

No, but the talent around him, can they keep up with him as he develops? So castle can he shoot better? Is Harper going to be you know, true go to guy? Who else do you have on that team who's going to help you?

You know? So that that would be my only concern with that.

No, I don't disagree with you. I mean I think they have pieces that you can move. The Jeremy Sohans, the Keldon Johnson's guys like that that you if you're talking about packaging players and figuring stuff out, if you want to press the fast forward button. But until a player goes into his first rookie extension, And if you think about this, like the NFL, where if you get a quarterback on a rookie contract and you start putting in those veteran pieces around him, like Seattle deal with Russell Wilson like a decade ago, that's what the NBA is turning into now, where if you get a guy on the first contract or the first rookie extension, that's when you start building a championship team. That's why you have all these teams sort of positioning themselves to make runs now before guys get really really expensive. I wouldn't be surprised if the San Antonio Spurs put all their chips to the center of the table, but traditionally that's not how they have operated.

All Right, what's the better version of Michael Jordan, Young Mike or old Mike or veteran or our veteran Mike. I'll give you five years of the next five years.

Oh, it's that middle five. It is. It is eighty nine to ninety three Michael Jordan, and I don't think it's particularly close. Like in eighty nine, he was scary, just like the triple doubles, and he was going into his body and he took that really not good bulls seam to the Eastern Conference Finals where he took two games off of a Detroit team that didn't lose to anybody else that season that series, and then the next year you could see he was really coming and really going to show up. And then you went when you run off three in a row, and I know that the bad boys were old and Magic carried a bunch of dudes who were Magic and the who's who of who in nineteen ninety one to the NBA Finals. He didn't have a direct equal because of len bias and because of the calendar. But there was no greater player we've ever seen in this league's history besides Michael Jordan. Between nineteen eight, in nineteen ninety three now the nineteen ninety seven Michael Jordan, the adult grown Michael Jordan. That guy put up the best NBA Finals we've ever seen. Legit, from game to game, from the flu game to the triple double to the game winner in Game one. Performance by performance, that's the best NBA Finals we've ever seen. As far as game to game effect. That was a thirty two to thirty three year old Michael jo. Okay, you can, you can, you can take a pick?

Okay?

Is Michael the first and second best player of all time? If I look at what he was in eighty nine and what he was in ninety six ninety seven.

Well, well, I will tell you this, and this is what's something someone told me, so it's not original. Michael Jordan is so great he went into the Hall of Fame as two players himself and Scottie Pippen.

Wow, Wow, that's cold blooded.

I am from Detroit, Dan. No, we do, we do, we do call Scotty sitting around here.

Gilbert Arenas said that he can't believe that people treat Kobe like he was his sidekick when he was with Shaq in that three peet. There is that fair to say that he shouldn't have been viewed as Shaq's sidekick.

I think the problem is revisionist history has sort of made people go to the stat sheet and said, man, Tracy McGrady was a really good player. He could have done what Kobe did. No, he couldn't have like Kobe actually carried the Lakers in some of those playoffs series. Now, two thousand, Kobe wasn't fully grown. He was still twenty one years I think twenty two years old, and he was still battling a little bit of inconsistency and find himself. But by two thousand and one, no no, no, no, no, no, no no no. By two thousand and one, he was arguably the best player in the game. Like the way he dominated that San Antonio Spurs series in the Western Conference Finals where he was taking forty point games on the road. Again, Tim Duncan and David Robinson and going to the basket and dunking on them. No, no, no, there is as much as there is dan a big gap between Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. And I think there is a huge gap between those two players. There's even as greater of a gap between Kobe Bryant and anybody else that you feel like you can put in those spots. Because Shaquille O'Neal needed somebody, and he just didn't need a Vince Card or Tracy McGrady. Like those guys were great, great players, But Kobe had an appetite and all around complete game, especially defensively where he would really get after it. I think, you know, it's funny when he died, it was almost like there was an overarching sort of reach to put him in a certain spot. And now all of a sudden, we're going to downplay. No, no, no, can we just ring it a little bit to the middle. I'm not going to say Kobe Bryant's rings didn't count, like if you're not the number one guy, don't count whatever, Because Magic Johnson played with Kareem al Dula Jabbar, whose rings were those in nineteen eighty nine, eight two eighty five, Like, I don't want to parse that and turn that discussion into something that is not.

I mentioned this and I'll leave you with this with OKAC that I know we want to fast track them to being a great team of all time, which they're not. Uh, you know, you went to Game seven twice. You had to hold off the biggest underdog in the last twenty five years according to the odds makers. It took a guy blowing out his achilles.

You hold on, you won.

We might look differently at this OKC team in three years with what happens, they could be the Toronto Raptors, or they might have some sustainability here, which I hope they do and they probably should. But I think we want to have that coronation of this is one of the great teams of all time, great regular season. Denver took them to seven, Indiana took them to seven. And that's why I would just say, enjoy, enjoy your parade, enjoy your title. Don't put them in there with the one Lakers or the you know, eighty six Celtics or you know they're not there.

But that's okay.

What do you think I think the difference between all of those teams that you mentioned is some of the single seasons and greatest teams. Eighty six Celtics, eighty seven Lakers, eighty three, seventy six Ers that only won one championship, oh one Lakers. All those teams have gone through multiple playoff runs, winning, losing everything else. This is their second playoff run together, Dan, And that's where you can look at it and say, man, do they still have more room to grow that? And you don't know in today's NBA, especially with them being in Oklahoma City, and we don't know how they're going to handle Jalen Williams coming up for a Max, chet Holmgren coming up for a Max and having all those draft picks and figuring out the economics of the game there. But we've had seven different champions in the last seven years. Then we say the same thing about Milwaukee. Oh, they're going to go on a run. Boston, they're going to go on a run. Denver they got Nicola Yokis the best player in the game, going to go on a run. The game moves faster than ever, quicker than ever. I'm with you. I think they are one of the best single season teams we've ever seen. It remains to be seen if they have as long as a runway. What if, Dan, they are the San Antonio Spurs where they never go back to back, but they win championships over a fifteen year period. Where the ninety nine team looks totally different than the old seventeen looks totally different than the twenty fourteen team, but there's a common denominator and a common threat there. We would still say they are wildly successful, especially in today's NBA.

Will said Vincent Goodwill y'allho's sports senior NBA writer, host of The Good Word podcast on Yahoo's Sports and Serious XM NBA host.

Great to talk to you so always. Thank you, Bell always.

I love the Living for the City.

Oh all right, little Stevie Wonder Living for the City. Got a little T shirt going on there. I see what you're doing. Thank you, Vince. All right, Well, take a break. When we come back, we play fill in the blank, have an Achilles terror theory, and more of your phone calls.

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Time to play Phil in the blank. I will read something and then you Phil in the blank. Oklahoma City's future is blank Todd sga, Okay, Seaton.

It starts now. Marvin full of draft picks.

Paul not that simple.

I'll say promising championship parades are blank Todd.

I'm going with whatever tech parades or whatever.

Seaton fun, Marvin Long, Paul sloppy.

I'll say communal Kevin Durant's legacy is going to be blank Ton tarnished.

He continues to play.

Misinterpreted Marvin complex, all.

Full of semantics.

Yeah, I was going to go complex too.

Sports in late June early July is Blank Todd, desperate viewing.

Setan.

Spars, Marvin tough for the job, Paully relaxing. I would say vacation worthy. The sexy NFL team in August will be blank Todd.

The Denver Broncos, you, I think they could win the FC West. And I don't want to get into pies in the face, but I think the Broncos A lot of a lot of people in the so called experts are into Denver.

Yes, Fritzy is right on on this. It doesn't It's not just because he likes them. Every year, a couple of teams get picked to be the focal point team in August that they could surprise people. Denver's one of.

Them, Satan, What about you. Sexy NFL team in August.

Is the New England Patriots.

Well, their quarterback just got married over the weekend.

Marvin the Green Bay Packers, Paul the Minnesota Vikings.

The sexy NFL team in August will be the Bears. The Bears one degree weather is blank, Todd uncomfortable, Seaton hot, Marvin.

Really hot, Paul debilitating.

Really really hot.

Sorry I have gone there.

That's fill in the blank. We did it.

Hey, uh Angela and Oklahoma, Hi Angela, what's on your mind today?

Good morning? First of all, I wanted to say that was the best interview, one of the best interviews with Goodwill.

Uh.

Second of all, I have to say that Halliburton, you're in our thoughts and prayers. Okay, Well, and then finally let's go okay, very I'm excited and excited. So I wrote two points, one that was in case we lost, and the one that I'm gonna read you right now. It's called oh to Oklahoma, Sorry, oh to Loud City. Are you ready, dah sure, Look at that my thunder winds filling greatest champions. We came to work hard and fight every single day and night. Coaches SGA and the boys standing tall with so much poise. Oh Dan, can't wait for next year. Let's go thunder is what will cheers?

All right?

That's that Angelo and Oklahoma. She actually had words that Ryan with one another.

I was well done and poetic.

I love to create a novel approach there Axel rhymes.

Yeah, uh, Jimmy in Chicago, try to squeeze you in here, Jimmy Hey.

Then one of the time in on Marvin's Jordan question in eighty eight, amazing accomplishments that year, he was MVP, Defensive Player of the Year, also Game MVP, as well as scoring leader. I was only five at the time though, so didn't that was before my time, but I watched every game in the ninety three season. That year, I call it the Terminator year. He was just truly unstoppable. Forty one points per game in the finals, highest average in the finals for that and I just think that if he didn't retire, they would have definitely won a fourth championship as well.

Yeah, probably so,

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