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I want to Dan, I want to hit you with something, and I hope you understand this is not a I'm not saying this directed at you. I'm saying this directed at America. Okay, we are making the classic. We're making two classic mistakes in this college football playoff thing. And I'm just telling you now, these are massive, massive mistakes that we're doing. And I'm saying it before the college football playoff format is a final, a bracket is eventually announced. Here's the two things. Here's the one. And I didn't get into it a bunch of Twitter, but people are talking about, well, the Big twelve and the record versus the SEC and over the last ten years and Texas struggling in the Big twelve and now they're in the SEC, and like, listen, you are viewing something college sports has dramatically changed, dramatically changed in the last five years, and you're like, well, no, Dub like no, no, no, hold on, Okay, the SEC has always been in the modern last twenty five years, it's been the best college football conference. Now again that doesn't mean it's always had the best team, but overall it's been the best football conference. Dan, do you have any problem with me saying no, No, not at all. Okay. And the reason behind it, I believe is uh really threefold. Okay. The first is that there's been a migration within the United States where a lot of people have moved to the South. It's just it was less expensive, it's warmer. You know, there have been more jobs there, right, Like, if you know anything about it, between South Carolina and Alabama, they've opened you know, BMW plants, Mercedes plants, you know, like even the auto industry has shifted to the South. Okay. And so we've had a massive movement of players. So the players are there, and college football players, college basketblay, but college fall players they like to play close to home. So that's at least a portion of it. The second part to it is the level of investment, a level of investment has been greater in football in the SEC than it has been in many of the other conferences, especially the Pac Twelve and to a lesser extent, the Big Twelve, the Big Ten. I think financially is all in. The problem is there's not as many players there as there used to be in Ohio, in pen Sylvania in comparison to the numbers in Georgia and Florida and Texas, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, and then I'd say the third part to it is the proliferation of college football combined with the big names Nick Saban going back to college and Alabama and raising them up, and then everything that's spread from it. Okay, But in the last five years the transfer portal combined with nil which means players can leave whenever they want at the end of a year. The SEC has more money, spends more money, but instead of spending it on facilities like they had the last twenty five years, and they already have ridiculous facilities. It doesn't mean there aren't other places with great facilities. Due for example, if you've ever been, I think it's the Drew Brees Center, Like they got great facilities. What they don't have is money left over, nor do they have players in the area. Has players in the area. They have the facilities, and now you can spend money on the players, and they have more money than everybody else. They are playing a different sport than the one that your team is playing in the Big Twelve, in the ACC, in the Big Ten, and anywhere else. It's a completely different sport, just like Ohio State, frankly is playing a different sport than everybody else in the Big Ten. Like, don't get me wrong, I think they're well coached, they have great history, but at the end of the day, they've spent more money on their players than everybody else. And that doesn't mean you always get it right. Like if you screw up the quarterback position, you're kind of screwed. But in a sport of attrition, when your two's are as good as other people's ones and you get to late in the year, it's like it's not even close. So I understand you can use the Hey, the Big Twelve had to run there where they had all these elite quarterbacks, Those days are over. These are over. Every once in a while, you can find a gem, you can find a diamond. You can get a guy in a seventh or eighth year. You know, Utah and Oklahoma State they tried trying to out quarterbacks in their seventh year. This year. One barely played or didn't play in cam Rising, the other one one very good. With my own monited Okla mistake. But when you have more money, you can buy better quarterbacks. You can buy better players, and that's what the SEC has. Look I don't know how to tell you this, but they're just way better. And putting these others like SMU and Indiana in the field is a joke in terms of not what they've accomplished in the season, but how good they actually are, which is the goal of a selection. Mantey. Hey, here's the other mistake that we're making, Dan, is we've gone from You know what we should do is we've got to make sure we include the little guy that was a big thing. Got to make sure you get one of these other conferences should get a seat at the table, which I absolutely agree with too. Now and again, it's not gonna finish this way, but there's a world. Boise State right now, based on the committee, would be the number four seed. Now I think Boys. State's a good club, might have the best running back in college football, almost beat Oregon at organ But if you think for one second they're the fourth best team in the country, you need to have your head examined because the reality is all these people that would say, like, yeah, they should get a buye, they should have a name one of them that will pick them to actually win a national championship, nobody will because we all know they can't win three games in a row. They could pluck somebody off for one game, sure, but they an't win in three games in a row. Stop it not college football, no chance. But we're overreacting to the years and years and years and years of the SEC and other big conferences SEC and Big ten getting what we think of a special preferential treatment and getting extra teams in or getting two teams into a four team playoff when somebody else gets slighted. I think we're making those two mistakes. We're judging everything today based upon the past, which is completely different than now. And we're overreacting to the years of the little guy getting left out by giving the little guy not just a seat at the table, but a seat at the actual big boy table. Which we all know they don't belong at.

I want to Dan, I want to hit you with something, and I hope you understand this is not a I'm not saying this directed at you. I'm saying this directed at America. Okay, we are making the classic. We're making two classic mistakes in this college football playoff thing. And I'm just telling you now, these are massive, massive mistakes that we're doing. And I'm saying it before the college football playoff format is a final, a bracket is eventually announced. Here's the two things. Here's the one. And I didn't get into it a bunch of Twitter, but people are talking about, well, the Big twelve and the record versus the SEC and over the last ten years and Texas struggling in the Big twelve and now they're in the SEC, and like, listen, you are viewing something college sports has dramatically changed, dramatically changed in the last five years, and you're like, well, no, Dub like no, no, no, hold on, Okay, the SEC has always been in the modern last twenty five years, it's been the best college football conference. Now again that doesn't mean it's always had the best team, but overall it's been the best football conference. Dan, do you have any problem with me saying no, No, not at all. Okay. And the reason behind it, I believe is uh really threefold. Okay. The first is that there's been a migration within the United States where a lot of people have moved to the South. It's just it was less expensive, it's warmer. You know, there have been more jobs there, right, Like, if you know anything about it, between South Carolina and Alabama, they've opened you know, BMW plants, Mercedes plants, you know, like even the auto industry has shifted to the South. Okay. And so we've had a massive movement of players. So the players are there, and college football players, college basketblay, but college fall players they like to play close to home. So that's at least a portion of it. The second part to it is the level of investment, a level of investment has been greater in football in the SEC than it has been in many of the other conferences, especially the Pac Twelve and to a lesser extent, the Big Twelve, the Big Ten. I think financially is all in. The problem is there's not as many players there as there used to be in Ohio, in pen Sylvania in comparison to the numbers in Georgia and Florida and Texas, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, and then I'd say the third part to it is the proliferation of college football combined with the big names Nick Saban going back to college and Alabama and raising them up, and then everything that's spread from it. Okay, But in the last five years the transfer portal combined with nil which means players can leave whenever they want at the end of a year. The SEC has more money, spends more money, but instead of spending it on facilities like they had the last twenty five years, and they already have ridiculous facilities. It doesn't mean there aren't other places with great facilities. Due for example, if you've ever been, I think it's the Drew Brees Center, Like they got great facilities. What they don't have is money left over, nor do they have players in the area. Has players in the area. They have the facilities, and now you can spend money on the players, and they have more money than everybody else. They are playing a different sport than the one that your team is playing in the Big Twelve, in the ACC, in the Big Ten, and anywhere else. It's a completely different sport, just like Ohio State, frankly is playing a different sport than everybody else in the Big Ten. Like, don't get me wrong, I think they're well coached, they have great history, but at the end of the day, they've spent more money on their players than everybody else. And that doesn't mean you always get it right. Like if you screw up the quarterback position, you're kind of screwed. But in a sport of attrition, when your two's are as good as other people's ones and you get to late in the year, it's like it's not even close. So I understand you can use the Hey, the Big Twelve had to run there where they had all these elite quarterbacks, Those days are over. These are over. Every once in a while, you can find a gem, you can find a diamond. You can get a guy in a seventh or eighth year. You know, Utah and Oklahoma State they tried trying to out quarterbacks in their seventh year. This year. One barely played or didn't play in cam Rising, the other one one very good. With my own monited Okla mistake. But when you have more money, you can buy better quarterbacks. You can buy better players, and that's what the SEC has. Look I don't know how to tell you this, but they're just way better. And putting these others like SMU and Indiana in the field is a joke in terms of not what they've accomplished in the season, but how good they actually are, which is the goal of a selection. Mantey. Hey, here's the other mistake that we're making, Dan, is we've gone from You know what we should do is we've got to make sure we include the little guy that was a big thing. Got to make sure you get one of these other conferences should get a seat at the table, which I absolutely agree with too. Now and again, it's not gonna finish this way, but there's a world. Boise State right now, based on the committee, would be the number four seed. Now I think Boys. State's a good club, might have the best running back in college football, almost beat Oregon at organ But if you think for one second they're the fourth best team in the country, you need to have your head examined because the reality is all these people that would say, like, yeah, they should get a buye, they should have a name one of them that will pick them to actually win a national championship, nobody will because we all know they can't win three games in a row. They could pluck somebody off for one game, sure, but they an't win in three games in a row. Stop it not college football, no chance. But we're overreacting to the years and years and years and years of the SEC and other big conferences SEC and Big ten getting what we think of a special preferential treatment and getting extra teams in or getting two teams into a four team playoff when somebody else gets slighted. I think we're making those two mistakes. We're judging everything today based upon the past, which is completely different than now. And we're overreacting to the years of the little guy getting left out by giving the little guy not just a seat at the table, but a seat at the actual big boy table. Which we all know they don't belong at.

I think about eighty five percent of what you said about the SEC I agree with. I do believe that the little guy belongs at the table because I think that's what we all love. I would love to meet the person that believes Boise State should get a first round by, because I don't know if anybody actually believes that. I don't know if people actually think that the ACC champ should get a first round by.

I think about eighty five percent of what you said about the SEC I agree with. I do believe that the little guy belongs at the table because I think that's what we all love. I would love to meet the person that believes Boise State should get a first round by, because I don't know if anybody actually believes that. I don't know if people actually think that the ACC champ should get a first round by.

To you, nobody is no chance they should. They're not good. I mean they're not and like, look, I love Camwort's great story, good player, right, but like they should have been beaten like two or three times like Cal had them to, right, So you got to go back through their schedule, Like they're not at the level of everybody else. What are we doing?

To you, nobody is no chance they should. They're not good. I mean they're not and like, look, I love Camwort's great story, good player, right, but like they should have been beaten like two or three times like Cal had them to, right, So you got to go back through their schedule, Like they're not at the level of everybody else. What are we doing?

This is the reason why I think that this is so intriguing, Doug. It's I don't know if if it's appropriate to say that we're in the middle of this, We're in the eye of this, of the storm or of college football, of this hurricane of just moving parts. Because the reason we got to this point of where we are right now on November twenty ninth of twenty twenty four is because of everything being fast tracked. And what I mean is Oklahoma and Texas go to the SEC go a year early. Oregon and Washington jumped to the Big Ten, earlier than we had ever planned. We knew USC and UCLA were cooing to the Big Ten, we did not know that Oregon and Washington were. So now you have all this conference realignment with now the Big twelve takes on this new picture, and you can't get any of these conferences together to actually figure out a way to set up a playoff. So now what happens is you expand your playoff from four teams to twelve because you had a certain select window to do that within the previous format of your college football playoff, and they didn't know how to set it up. And I'm a Big ten guy. I want the Big Ten to do well all except Michigan like that. When it comes down to it, that's who you're supporting in this day and age of college sports, where the SEC is supporting the SEC, they're looking out for what they want. The problem is, and I think this is also what you're getting to is in this version of it, they gave up too many seats because they didn't know what was happening. And that is what is so intriguing about what could come in the next two years when you're trying to figure out of possible fourteen to sixteen team playoff and you're going to assign automatic bids. This was a whole mess to begin with. And if you would have said to them, the conference commissioners and everybody involved two you years ago or a year ago and this was all being discussed, that hey, guess what, you're gonna have Boise State in Miami get buys while Ohio State and Georgia and Notre Dame all have to play first round games. You may know Notre Dame's conference situation plays a part in that, but I think you'd have a real, real problem with that. And that's it's all of this chaos is nobody knew. It's almost maybe a bit like nil right. You have no idea what exactly was going to transpire, and now you've come out with this, and it's a product that is served serving the wrong people.

This is the reason why I think that this is so intriguing, Doug. It's I don't know if if it's appropriate to say that we're in the middle of this, We're in the eye of this, of the storm or of college football, of this hurricane of just moving parts. Because the reason we got to this point of where we are right now on November twenty ninth of twenty twenty four is because of everything being fast tracked. And what I mean is Oklahoma and Texas go to the SEC go a year early. Oregon and Washington jumped to the Big Ten, earlier than we had ever planned. We knew USC and UCLA were cooing to the Big Ten, we did not know that Oregon and Washington were. So now you have all this conference realignment with now the Big twelve takes on this new picture, and you can't get any of these conferences together to actually figure out a way to set up a playoff. So now what happens is you expand your playoff from four teams to twelve because you had a certain select window to do that within the previous format of your college football playoff, and they didn't know how to set it up. And I'm a Big ten guy. I want the Big Ten to do well all except Michigan like that. When it comes down to it, that's who you're supporting in this day and age of college sports, where the SEC is supporting the SEC, they're looking out for what they want. The problem is, and I think this is also what you're getting to is in this version of it, they gave up too many seats because they didn't know what was happening. And that is what is so intriguing about what could come in the next two years when you're trying to figure out of possible fourteen to sixteen team playoff and you're going to assign automatic bids. This was a whole mess to begin with. And if you would have said to them, the conference commissioners and everybody involved two you years ago or a year ago and this was all being discussed, that hey, guess what, you're gonna have Boise State in Miami get buys while Ohio State and Georgia and Notre Dame all have to play first round games. You may know Notre Dame's conference situation plays a part in that, but I think you'd have a real, real problem with that. And that's it's all of this chaos is nobody knew. It's almost maybe a bit like nil right. You have no idea what exactly was going to transpire, and now you've come out with this, and it's a product that is served serving the wrong people.

That's for sure.

That's for sure.

It's a it is it is a mess. It is a mess.

It's a it is it is a mess. It is a mess.

My other my problem, Doug, is the rankings come out on came out on Tuesday, and you know this from your basketball days. The basketball selection committee will take their bracket granted more teams, but when you have sixty eight teams, you have to you have to move teams off of seed lines because of possible conference matchups, head to head stuff, other funk deals. You don't get a true one through sixty eight bracket because you need to move teams around. In this scenario here, what is being displayed on Tuesday when they tell us to watch the College Football and Ranking Show, they just show the rankings. They don't show the bracket. So what happens is we take the rankings and then we put them into the bracket and we find out, Wait, Indiana's going to play Penn State in the first round, Tennessee and Georgia are going to play again. That's not good for college football. So what is the what is the reason to have this process of revealing the rankings when the rankings are actually there to just set up the bracket. You don't set up a bracket.

My other my problem, Doug, is the rankings come out on came out on Tuesday, and you know this from your basketball days. The basketball selection committee will take their bracket granted more teams, but when you have sixty eight teams, you have to you have to move teams off of seed lines because of possible conference matchups, head to head stuff, other funk deals. You don't get a true one through sixty eight bracket because you need to move teams around. In this scenario here, what is being displayed on Tuesday when they tell us to watch the College Football and Ranking Show, they just show the rankings. They don't show the bracket. So what happens is we take the rankings and then we put them into the bracket and we find out, Wait, Indiana's going to play Penn State in the first round, Tennessee and Georgia are going to play again. That's not good for college football. So what is the what is the reason to have this process of revealing the rankings when the rankings are actually there to just set up the bracket. You don't set up a bracket.

Well, the other the other part too, it is okay, we're essentially penalizing teams for playing their college football, playing in their conference championship game, like, and this has always been an issue.

Well, the other the other part too, it is okay, we're essentially penalizing teams for playing their college football, playing in their conference championship game, like, and this has always been an issue.

Yes, we think that could happen.

Yes, we think that could happen.

Well, I don't mean necessarily punishment. And here's what I mean. One of the big issues with expanding to a college fall playoff. And you and I have talked about this at length, and people want to call bs that's fine, but a legit part of the discussion is like, sixteen games a lot of games on kids, it's a lot a lot of games. And you're like, well, well the people don't care, like now they actually do care, and whether they care because they won't be standing by the end of sixteen games. Well, like, that's what we're gonna do. You know, Ohio State loses in the in the Big Ten championship game, then in order for them to win a national championship, they have to play sixteen games, all right, sixteen games? So what like again, what are we doing here? Like none of this makes any sort of sense. And if you if you think, like well Doug Gottlieb's sec guy, I'm not. I'm a I'm it's the reality. Perfect example is we played Ohio State in basketball Monday night, and like, look, I would say, Ohio State, I don't know their financials. My guess is they're a three to four and a half million dollar team. Okay, that is that is a lot more than that we have in our kitty. Right, And again you look at look at the SEC basketball rankings, look at how well they're doing. They got well, Auburn's doing, Kentucky's don't know, Arkansas lost a little bit. They're starting to kind of figure it out. And Texas like why are they so much better because they they have better players? Like what are we doing? And so in football, where it really is again, a quarterback in many ways can stabilize that. And I think that's what happened with the Pac twelve last year is you just had you had good invested programs, but you had all of those you had star quarterbacks. You know, I mean at Oregon and Washington. Why were they better because they had fifth year star quarterbacks that were NFL guys. And that can that can sort of neutralize the athletic advantage on some level that you're seeing when you play SEC teams, although they didn't really play SEC teams, buy and large, those are the best teams. And so in addition to putting them on a weird seed, line where they got to play an additional game and putting what everyone knows to be an inferior team in terms of overall talent doesn't mean they haven't had a great accomplishment. Like the accomplishment should get you in the field, but get you a bye and even get you a home game is like what, like that's yeah, I don't see it. And again you can say it's unfair to judge Indiana based upon the outcome of one game, but that's what's happened based upon their schedule. All we have to judge them on. They played one quality opponent all year and literally could not move the ball via the air. Couldn't. Couldn't. Now you can say, hey, it's their special teams, like okay, but again, even that is part of the difference in the levels of play, Like it's a great way to because like you don't have your ones on special teams, right, you usually have younger guys on special teams. Well, when you're at a house, when you're at ohiose State, like your your twos, your special you can pay for special teams guys, Whereas when you're at Indiana and you're like, where are we going to save money, like you save money on your depth and that's just a reality to it. But we judge. Yeah, it's unfair to judge. I saw people who are writers who I respect because they love college football. At the end of the first half, like Indiana, put them in. Put them in. They're down fourteen to seven, Like what, they had a nice opening drive and they haven't done anything since. In the one game that they've played, they've literally beaten the the bottom, completing the cycle with Purdue this week, and that's gonna be enough to put them in the field. Like what, No one thinks they're a top twelve team. They're a great story, coaches got swag, but if you have to bet your salary on who's gonna win, they wouldn't be one of the top you know, six or what is it eight at large teams not close.

Well, I don't mean necessarily punishment. And here's what I mean. One of the big issues with expanding to a college fall playoff. And you and I have talked about this at length, and people want to call bs that's fine, but a legit part of the discussion is like, sixteen games a lot of games on kids, it's a lot a lot of games. And you're like, well, well the people don't care, like now they actually do care, and whether they care because they won't be standing by the end of sixteen games. Well, like, that's what we're gonna do. You know, Ohio State loses in the in the Big Ten championship game, then in order for them to win a national championship, they have to play sixteen games, all right, sixteen games? So what like again, what are we doing here? Like none of this makes any sort of sense. And if you if you think, like well Doug Gottlieb's sec guy, I'm not. I'm a I'm it's the reality. Perfect example is we played Ohio State in basketball Monday night, and like, look, I would say, Ohio State, I don't know their financials. My guess is they're a three to four and a half million dollar team. Okay, that is that is a lot more than that we have in our kitty. Right, And again you look at look at the SEC basketball rankings, look at how well they're doing. They got well, Auburn's doing, Kentucky's don't know, Arkansas lost a little bit. They're starting to kind of figure it out. And Texas like why are they so much better because they they have better players? Like what are we doing? And so in football, where it really is again, a quarterback in many ways can stabilize that. And I think that's what happened with the Pac twelve last year is you just had you had good invested programs, but you had all of those you had star quarterbacks. You know, I mean at Oregon and Washington. Why were they better because they had fifth year star quarterbacks that were NFL guys. And that can that can sort of neutralize the athletic advantage on some level that you're seeing when you play SEC teams, although they didn't really play SEC teams, buy and large, those are the best teams. And so in addition to putting them on a weird seed, line where they got to play an additional game and putting what everyone knows to be an inferior team in terms of overall talent doesn't mean they haven't had a great accomplishment. Like the accomplishment should get you in the field, but get you a bye and even get you a home game is like what, like that's yeah, I don't see it. And again you can say it's unfair to judge Indiana based upon the outcome of one game, but that's what's happened based upon their schedule. All we have to judge them on. They played one quality opponent all year and literally could not move the ball via the air. Couldn't. Couldn't. Now you can say, hey, it's their special teams, like okay, but again, even that is part of the difference in the levels of play, Like it's a great way to because like you don't have your ones on special teams, right, you usually have younger guys on special teams. Well, when you're at a house, when you're at ohiose State, like your your twos, your special you can pay for special teams guys, Whereas when you're at Indiana and you're like, where are we going to save money, like you save money on your depth and that's just a reality to it. But we judge. Yeah, it's unfair to judge. I saw people who are writers who I respect because they love college football. At the end of the first half, like Indiana, put them in. Put them in. They're down fourteen to seven, Like what, they had a nice opening drive and they haven't done anything since. In the one game that they've played, they've literally beaten the the bottom, completing the cycle with Purdue this week, and that's gonna be enough to put them in the field. Like what, No one thinks they're a top twelve team. They're a great story, coaches got swag, but if you have to bet your salary on who's gonna win, they wouldn't be one of the top you know, six or what is it eight at large teams not close.

What's gonna be interesting is if Texas A and M beats Texas, how that ends up falling because A and M and the go to the SEC championship game and his an M's resume strong enough, do they make a leap.

What's gonna be interesting is if Texas A and M beats Texas, how that ends up falling because A and M and the go to the SEC championship game and his an M's resume strong enough, do they make a leap.

I'll just say.

I'll just say.

This, this is why the SEC in the Big Ten wanted first round bys in what is the future bracket and all of the wrongs of this year and possibly next year's format will be set up. And one quick point to make. Because Tulane lost last night to Memphis, Tulane was on the verge of possibly overtaking the Big Twelve champ to represent a conference champion. In the top five conference champions, you get at a scenario where tu Lane would have been higher than Arizona State or anybody else, and the Big Twelve could have been shut out of the twelve team playoff. Maybe not likely, but possibly so. Now, when you're the Big twelve and the SEC and the Big Ten are saying you, guys get two automatic bids, but you don't get first round bys, you now take that in a heartbeat if you expand to fourteen teams, because otherwise you're in the verge of possibly being shut out completely. Considering how strong we think the SEC and the Big Ten are.

This, this is why the SEC in the Big Ten wanted first round bys in what is the future bracket and all of the wrongs of this year and possibly next year's format will be set up. And one quick point to make. Because Tulane lost last night to Memphis, Tulane was on the verge of possibly overtaking the Big Twelve champ to represent a conference champion. In the top five conference champions, you get at a scenario where tu Lane would have been higher than Arizona State or anybody else, and the Big Twelve could have been shut out of the twelve team playoff. Maybe not likely, but possibly so. Now, when you're the Big twelve and the SEC and the Big Ten are saying you, guys get two automatic bids, but you don't get first round bys, you now take that in a heartbeat if you expand to fourteen teams, because otherwise you're in the verge of possibly being shut out completely. Considering how strong we think the SEC and the Big Ten are.

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Obviously, Tom Brady was on the call yesterday of the Giants Cowboys game, right that was the big America's what do we call it, America's football game, America's I forget America's game where he's on the Cowboys Giants call and Dan, I don't know if you heard this, okay, but this was Tom Brady said this about Daniel Jones asking to be released by the Giants.

Obviously, Tom Brady was on the call yesterday of the Giants Cowboys game, right that was the big America's what do we call it, America's football game, America's I forget America's game where he's on the Cowboys Giants call and Dan, I don't know if you heard this, okay, but this was Tom Brady said this about Daniel Jones asking to be released by the Giants.

I don't know how the whole situation went down, but to think that you would ask for a release from a team that committed a lot to you is maybe different than I would have handled that. I always felt I wanted to get the trust and respect of my teammates, regardless situation, knowing that I was trying to do the best I picked for the team because that was the most important thing.

I don't know how the whole situation went down, but to think that you would ask for a release from a team that committed a lot to you is maybe different than I would have handled that. I always felt I wanted to get the trust and respect of my teammates, regardless situation, knowing that I was trying to do the best I picked for the team because that was the most important thing.

There were just some different things.

There were just some different things.

That happened in the NFL, and everyone makes individual choices, and I think we're all at points in our career face different challenges.

That happened in the NFL, and everyone makes individual choices, and I think we're all at points in our career face different challenges.

I faced them in college and some things didn't go the way I want.

I faced them in college and some things didn't go the way I want.

But the people that mattered most of me were the guys in the locker room.

But the people that mattered most of me were the guys in the locker room.

I showed up every day.

I showed up every day.

I don't care if they asked me.

I don't care if they asked me.

To be Scout team safety, the Scout team quarterback.

To be Scout team safety, the Scout team quarterback.

I was gonna do whatever I could to help the team in right.

I was gonna do whatever I could to help the team in right.

Yeah, so Tom Brady like, it sounds great to say, Right, It's like, man, I would have showed up no matter what I would have been Scout team safety. The problem with it is it's so far from the reality where Daniel Jones actually offered up to be the Scout team safety. The problem is that the way in which these contracts are constructed, and we'll have Mark Dominic in a second, Dan, but you know this is they can't the Giants can't put him out there even for practice, for risk of injury, because if he gets hurt even at practice, well then they owe him even more money. Right, that contract is already in albatross. It gets even worse.

Yeah, so Tom Brady like, it sounds great to say, Right, It's like, man, I would have showed up no matter what I would have been Scout team safety. The problem with it is it's so far from the reality where Daniel Jones actually offered up to be the Scout team safety. The problem is that the way in which these contracts are constructed, and we'll have Mark Dominic in a second, Dan, but you know this is they can't the Giants can't put him out there even for practice, for risk of injury, because if he gets hurt even at practice, well then they owe him even more money. Right, that contract is already in albatross. It gets even worse.

There's there's a lot to it, and I also look at as just as Brady trying to make the transition as a broadcaster and Mike Florio often frequent guest with the Dan Patrick Obviously on The Dan Patrick Show, Florio pointed out that this is your job as an analyst to do this sort of thing to get that information. I understand that you're coming from the player's perspective, but I think a simple conversation, which was Florio's point, would have solved this whole riddle for Tom Brady instead to give his perspective the way that he did.

There's there's a lot to it, and I also look at as just as Brady trying to make the transition as a broadcaster and Mike Florio often frequent guest with the Dan Patrick Obviously on The Dan Patrick Show, Florio pointed out that this is your job as an analyst to do this sort of thing to get that information. I understand that you're coming from the player's perspective, but I think a simple conversation, which was Florio's point, would have solved this whole riddle for Tom Brady instead to give his perspective the way that he did.

It's really interesting because I would I would say that if I had my analysis of his analysis generally is he's been he's been way over prepared and he has he's got to do games for a couple of years and you know, in order to truly get comfortable and just find his voice. But in this particular case, it felt like Tom Brady was It was like his Ted talk.

It's really interesting because I would I would say that if I had my analysis of his analysis generally is he's been he's been way over prepared and he has he's got to do games for a couple of years and you know, in order to truly get comfortable and just find his voice. But in this particular case, it felt like Tom Brady was It was like his Ted talk.

You know.

You know.

It was like one of those Instagram reels on Tom Brady that has made him very popular, which is like I would have showed up to work no matter what, no matter what, Like, yeah, dude, all you got to do is make a call, You're Tom Brady going to pick up the phone, and they would have said, like, hey, look he wanted to go there, but they don't want him around, okay, because he can't participate if he gets hurt, costs us more money. Like he actually did a solid by the team by removing himself from the situation. All right, more on that to come. Let's welcome in. Mark Dominic, of course, was a former gentle manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. By the way, he joins us weekly on the Doug Gotlib Show. You should check out those hits. Just download the Doug Gotlib Show podcast. Mark, am I am? I wrong that, like Tom Brady said, it's one of those like grand standing get applause from people. Tom would show up to work no matter what when the reality is that it's better for everybody if you decide to move on from Daniel Jones to not have him around the organization.

It was like one of those Instagram reels on Tom Brady that has made him very popular, which is like I would have showed up to work no matter what, no matter what, Like, yeah, dude, all you got to do is make a call, You're Tom Brady going to pick up the phone, and they would have said, like, hey, look he wanted to go there, but they don't want him around, okay, because he can't participate if he gets hurt, costs us more money. Like he actually did a solid by the team by removing himself from the situation. All right, more on that to come. Let's welcome in. Mark Dominic, of course, was a former gentle manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. By the way, he joins us weekly on the Doug Gotlib Show. You should check out those hits. Just download the Doug Gotlib Show podcast. Mark, am I am? I wrong that, like Tom Brady said, it's one of those like grand standing get applause from people. Tom would show up to work no matter what when the reality is that it's better for everybody if you decide to move on from Daniel Jones to not have him around the organization.

Mor than guys, And yeah, I agree. I hope you guys had a good Thanksgiving and hopefully enjoyed the games. But I agree with you guys. I mean, it's pretty standard and Tom was never in this kind of position right, not where his contract is just overbearing and the reality is the organizations moving on and walking away, and so therefore he can't see it from that lens. But he could have been better prepared for that comment. I'm sure he faced a little bit of backlash today, has deserved. But no, this is a decision made around the table with the agent, player club, et cetera, all deciding that that's the best interest. And I don't disagree that, you know, he shouldn't be there. I am sure that with the injuries that it looks like, well he could have played, they would have still gone three lock. And so it is what it is.

Mor than guys, And yeah, I agree. I hope you guys had a good Thanksgiving and hopefully enjoyed the games. But I agree with you guys. I mean, it's pretty standard and Tom was never in this kind of position right, not where his contract is just overbearing and the reality is the organizations moving on and walking away, and so therefore he can't see it from that lens. But he could have been better prepared for that comment. I'm sure he faced a little bit of backlash today, has deserved. But no, this is a decision made around the table with the agent, player club, et cetera, all deciding that that's the best interest. And I don't disagree that, you know, he shouldn't be there. I am sure that with the injuries that it looks like, well he could have played, they would have still gone three lock. And so it is what it is.

Is it simple enough, since we're talking about Daniel Jones that the Vikings make this move just basically just for insurance purposes for the rest of the season, because it seems like they have a future. What do you think was going through the mind of Quasio Delpha Menza making that signing for Minnesota.

Is it simple enough, since we're talking about Daniel Jones that the Vikings make this move just basically just for insurance purposes for the rest of the season, because it seems like they have a future. What do you think was going through the mind of Quasio Delpha Menza making that signing for Minnesota.

Yeah, I think I think they're just kind of looking at all things. I think they're kind of looking at from a perspective of not sure where their quarterback is in terms of health, knowing that more than likely Sam Darnold's gonna find it different home in twenty twenty five, and therefore we can already be protected with the backup quarterback and get to see him and let our coaches get to feel him, understand him, and see what ticks, and let our coaches have a little play with him. We've seen what they've done with san Donold and be making Minnesota relevant in twenty twenty four, and I think that they're trying to say, hey, let's kick the tires on this one. So I think it's a longer term move, depending on if Daniel Jones likes the environments as much as maybe they like Daniel Jones.

Yeah, I think I think they're just kind of looking at all things. I think they're kind of looking at from a perspective of not sure where their quarterback is in terms of health, knowing that more than likely Sam Darnold's gonna find it different home in twenty twenty five, and therefore we can already be protected with the backup quarterback and get to see him and let our coaches get to feel him, understand him, and see what ticks, and let our coaches have a little play with him. We've seen what they've done with san Donold and be making Minnesota relevant in twenty twenty four, and I think that they're trying to say, hey, let's kick the tires on this one. So I think it's a longer term move, depending on if Daniel Jones likes the environments as much as maybe they like Daniel Jones.

I would also say, Mark, you tell me if I'm wrong. Okay, there's something in basketball. You have basketball families, footballs you have football families. I think it's brilliant from Daniel Jones and his agent in that they don't really have a connection to the Shanahan Tree and knowing that system, the verbiage, how everything works, and this gives Daniel Jones, you know, the next couple of months to learn the system, which doesn't mean it works in Minnesota. But if you look throughout the league, Kevin O'Connell has connections with everybody else. It puts seeming in a completely different football family and gives them an opportunity because that's what you do, right Like when you have a new coach, you're bringing a guy who knows the system, whether starter or backup. And I think it's a brilliant move from that perspective. Could that be what the agent's thinking.

I would also say, Mark, you tell me if I'm wrong. Okay, there's something in basketball. You have basketball families, footballs you have football families. I think it's brilliant from Daniel Jones and his agent in that they don't really have a connection to the Shanahan Tree and knowing that system, the verbiage, how everything works, and this gives Daniel Jones, you know, the next couple of months to learn the system, which doesn't mean it works in Minnesota. But if you look throughout the league, Kevin O'Connell has connections with everybody else. It puts seeming in a completely different football family and gives them an opportunity because that's what you do, right Like when you have a new coach, you're bringing a guy who knows the system, whether starter or backup. And I think it's a brilliant move from that perspective. Could that be what the agent's thinking.

Oh, I think absolutely. I think you know, you're looking at what's the best confiense right now in the NFL, who's having the most success. You're thinking of those situations. You're thinking, who's you know, who's been able to resurrect careers or create careers. You're thinking of that situation. So it makes a ton of sense. And again on the practice squad or anything like that, you're not married to anything as you're getting a jutes, so right now you're as much getting dated as you're trying to date. And so I think in that spot, it really works well for him to see if he enjoys the system, enjoys the coaching and the environment, or is this just a quick stop, you know, learning more and then finding a different place in twenty twenty five win free or when the end of the season hits and you decide if you're going sign a practice squad guys back or not.

Oh, I think absolutely. I think you know, you're looking at what's the best confiense right now in the NFL, who's having the most success. You're thinking of those situations. You're thinking, who's you know, who's been able to resurrect careers or create careers. You're thinking of that situation. So it makes a ton of sense. And again on the practice squad or anything like that, you're not married to anything as you're getting a jutes, so right now you're as much getting dated as you're trying to date. And so I think in that spot, it really works well for him to see if he enjoys the system, enjoys the coaching and the environment, or is this just a quick stop, you know, learning more and then finding a different place in twenty twenty five win free or when the end of the season hits and you decide if you're going sign a practice squad guys back or not.

Mark Dominic joining us here on the Dan Patrick Show. We're obviously going to talk about Maddieberfluss in the bank. He said today he's met with Ryan Poles, is met with Kevin Warren. We'll have a meeting later on what do you say one of the questions you're asking your head coach after that end of game debacle yesterday in.

Mark Dominic joining us here on the Dan Patrick Show. We're obviously going to talk about Maddieberfluss in the bank. He said today he's met with Ryan Poles, is met with Kevin Warren. We'll have a meeting later on what do you say one of the questions you're asking your head coach after that end of game debacle yesterday in.

Detroit, Well, I have a hard time. You know, they complete that pass without the face in the hands of the face and they're at the thirteen yard line and they have to win. Instead, they do get the penalty, so it's a twenty two yard penalty in theory, and then they turn around and get sacked. I feel like someone and it shows you that the lack of I guess maturity on Caleb Williams to not understand that this is a moment where you can't just wait for the call. You either got to tick the timeout, throw a ball to get yourself a builgal position or something on the sideline. Should be taking the time out to me that I'm Ryan Poles. I'm trying to understand why did we just burn the timeout? I know you know, we would have to get the ball you know, spiked, or we had to throw it to the sidelines. But how do we let the clock expire? And to me, that's a big question. And as a GM, I don't ask that question last night and ask him this morning. It's too emotional last night. It's going to be hard to get the right answer. It's going to add a know, this morning, you walk in with your head coach and he said, let's go through the chain of events and how that played out last night and talk to me about what you have seen. I think matthe Eberflus makes it through this weekend. I know he's very confident that he'll make it through the weekend. I just don't know if it's really because the Bears have been playing a little better, and certainly the second half was shocking for them to make it come back. This game should have been, you know, out the door in the first half. Obviously by the way the Lions just kind of blundered in the red zone. But I think you hold on to Matthew Riflus for at least the other week or two and you are going through the process, you know, and Ryan pulls me not know what's going on, and he might be part of those, you know, the sweeping So you know, to ask your Jim and manager what's going on may not be the best question, but I think you'll hold onto everything for a week or two more. But behind the scenes, as as you know.

Detroit, Well, I have a hard time. You know, they complete that pass without the face in the hands of the face and they're at the thirteen yard line and they have to win. Instead, they do get the penalty, so it's a twenty two yard penalty in theory, and then they turn around and get sacked. I feel like someone and it shows you that the lack of I guess maturity on Caleb Williams to not understand that this is a moment where you can't just wait for the call. You either got to tick the timeout, throw a ball to get yourself a builgal position or something on the sideline. Should be taking the time out to me that I'm Ryan Poles. I'm trying to understand why did we just burn the timeout? I know you know, we would have to get the ball you know, spiked, or we had to throw it to the sidelines. But how do we let the clock expire? And to me, that's a big question. And as a GM, I don't ask that question last night and ask him this morning. It's too emotional last night. It's going to be hard to get the right answer. It's going to add a know, this morning, you walk in with your head coach and he said, let's go through the chain of events and how that played out last night and talk to me about what you have seen. I think matthe Eberflus makes it through this weekend. I know he's very confident that he'll make it through the weekend. I just don't know if it's really because the Bears have been playing a little better, and certainly the second half was shocking for them to make it come back. This game should have been, you know, out the door in the first half. Obviously by the way the Lions just kind of blundered in the red zone. But I think you hold on to Matthew Riflus for at least the other week or two and you are going through the process, you know, and Ryan pulls me not know what's going on, and he might be part of those, you know, the sweeping So you know, to ask your Jim and manager what's going on may not be the best question, but I think you'll hold onto everything for a week or two more. But behind the scenes, as as you know.

Kevin Warren, Mark, Mark, how do you not fire somebody again? And if it was just this game, okay, but they're lining up to beat the Green Bay Packers who have owned them for the better part of a decade, and the guy sits on a forty six yard field goal that gets blocked. Again, not his fault that the trajectory was so low or that the blocking was bad. It's like, not technically his fault, but this is not the first And then you go to the commander's game again, not necessarily his fault that he's got a cornerback who's who's dancing and celebrating while the ball is already snapped, but it is that like that's his football team, Like how do you continue? And I'm again Mark, you know, I'm a coach, I'm actually sensitive this thing, but how do you not fire somebody today?

Kevin Warren, Mark, Mark, how do you not fire somebody again? And if it was just this game, okay, but they're lining up to beat the Green Bay Packers who have owned them for the better part of a decade, and the guy sits on a forty six yard field goal that gets blocked. Again, not his fault that the trajectory was so low or that the blocking was bad. It's like, not technically his fault, but this is not the first And then you go to the commander's game again, not necessarily his fault that he's got a cornerback who's who's dancing and celebrating while the ball is already snapped, but it is that like that's his football team, Like how do you continue? And I'm again Mark, you know, I'm a coach, I'm actually sensitive this thing, but how do you not fire somebody today?

I just think where you at in the season and change to take a change of where you sit as an organization isn't really going to change the outcome. I mean, you gotta look at your own staff and say, who would I want to be the head coach and why.

I just think where you at in the season and change to take a change of where you sit as an organization isn't really going to change the outcome. I mean, you gotta look at your own staff and say, who would I want to be the head coach and why.

And what maybe maybe not maybe not that coach, just like somebody's literally got to get like, somebody has to get there has to be some level of accountability that isn't there, or you're just like, hey, he's gonna get fired anyway, let's just like let him play out the string. I don't know, Well, it's like.

And what maybe maybe not maybe not that coach, just like somebody's literally got to get like, somebody has to get there has to be some level of accountability that isn't there, or you're just like, hey, he's gonna get fired anyway, let's just like let him play out the string. I don't know, Well, it's like.

This, you know, and as you said, and you know, and and I don't think that he won't get fired. I just don't think they'll do it right now that they might. But you talked about the three situations, and one was on offense, one was on defense, one was on special teams. Now that allso points back to it's the team not coming together. But they're also in a position to beat the camp commanders, in a position to possibly beat the lines, in position to possibly beat the you know, the packers. So you got to look at from like we're right on the cusp of maybe things are starting to turn, even though we're screwing up and losing these games. It's not like we're getting thraddled or beat bad like we've seen some other teams. And so I think that's the only reason they're holding on. But I think change things it's going to happen. I don't think that's I think that's inevitable. I just don't know if you just have to do it just to make a point to whom as there to stay.

This, you know, and as you said, and you know, and and I don't think that he won't get fired. I just don't think they'll do it right now that they might. But you talked about the three situations, and one was on offense, one was on defense, one was on special teams. Now that allso points back to it's the team not coming together. But they're also in a position to beat the camp commanders, in a position to possibly beat the lines, in position to possibly beat the you know, the packers. So you got to look at from like we're right on the cusp of maybe things are starting to turn, even though we're screwing up and losing these games. It's not like we're getting thraddled or beat bad like we've seen some other teams. And so I think that's the only reason they're holding on. But I think change things it's going to happen. I don't think that's I think that's inevitable. I just don't know if you just have to do it just to make a point to whom as there to stay.

Can I get one more on this Bear's thing, because and I said this to Doug earlier, Mark, and I said it yesterday when it happened. I don't understand how in this day, in the age of the NFL, you have a kicker that can't kick on fifty eight yards indoors?

Can I get one more on this Bear's thing, because and I said this to Doug earlier, Mark, and I said it yesterday when it happened. I don't understand how in this day, in the age of the NFL, you have a kicker that can't kick on fifty eight yards indoors?

Is that?

Is that?

I mean, we see guys now trying sixty four yard field goals. The longest field goal in NFL history happened in that stadium yesterday. And to me, that's a that's that's the Bears telling on themselves that they don't even have a good enough kicker, that they, by the way, wanted to settle for a forty six yard or two weeks ago.

I mean, we see guys now trying sixty four yard field goals. The longest field goal in NFL history happened in that stadium yesterday. And to me, that's a that's that's the Bears telling on themselves that they don't even have a good enough kicker, that they, by the way, wanted to settle for a forty six yard or two weeks ago.

Like, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Like, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

No, And I don't disagree. I think we've seen certainly a change in the evolution of kickers. It's easy to make fifty yarders, and it does say something that you have no confidence that you can make the big kick in the big moment, especially when time running out and the odds of you you know they're not going to convert a first down. I hated the end of the game, like I was nonnous. I was like, there's no way they're going to lose this game, at least to go into overtime and see if they somehow come pull off this miracle upset. But the Bears did a Bears thing, and I know that that goes back to Doug. What you're saying is somebody's got heads got a roll. I just, you know, no one, not knowing the McCaskey family, but just knowing the overall run with Kevin Warren. I just think that they're probably like, we fire him, Maybe we don't want to win more games, Maybe weren't a position where we're comfortable for our draft pick is right now, even though it's not ideal that we're not in a bad spot based off of meeting that first round pick going forward.

No, And I don't disagree. I think we've seen certainly a change in the evolution of kickers. It's easy to make fifty yarders, and it does say something that you have no confidence that you can make the big kick in the big moment, especially when time running out and the odds of you you know they're not going to convert a first down. I hated the end of the game, like I was nonnous. I was like, there's no way they're going to lose this game, at least to go into overtime and see if they somehow come pull off this miracle upset. But the Bears did a Bears thing, and I know that that goes back to Doug. What you're saying is somebody's got heads got a roll. I just, you know, no one, not knowing the McCaskey family, but just knowing the overall run with Kevin Warren. I just think that they're probably like, we fire him, Maybe we don't want to win more games, Maybe weren't a position where we're comfortable for our draft pick is right now, even though it's not ideal that we're not in a bad spot based off of meeting that first round pick going forward.

No, that's listen. That's the only that's I told Jason Stewart, our producer, like, that's the only viable explanation that I would actually go like, okay, that makes it make it look so such like such a mess, like oh my god, I can't believe we lost this game. And then then you go in the locker, I'm like, dude, we lost that game. We keep our draft pick. That's the only thing that could that could get you out of jail free. It was was I'm with you, I'm watching with my coaches, and we're we just finished Thanksgiving dinner, and we were all like, oh, okay, what do we have to prepare for that we have not because this looks terrible. It just looked I cannot believe how that game ended. Mark Dominic joining us here on The Dan Patrick Show with Dan Byram. I'm Doug Gottlieb in for Dan and Dan nets Do the Dolphins have a cold weather problem or a tua problem?

No, that's listen. That's the only that's I told Jason Stewart, our producer, like, that's the only viable explanation that I would actually go like, okay, that makes it make it look so such like such a mess, like oh my god, I can't believe we lost this game. And then then you go in the locker, I'm like, dude, we lost that game. We keep our draft pick. That's the only thing that could that could get you out of jail free. It was was I'm with you, I'm watching with my coaches, and we're we just finished Thanksgiving dinner, and we were all like, oh, okay, what do we have to prepare for that we have not because this looks terrible. It just looked I cannot believe how that game ended. Mark Dominic joining us here on The Dan Patrick Show with Dan Byram. I'm Doug Gottlieb in for Dan and Dan nets Do the Dolphins have a cold weather problem or a tua problem?

I want to lean towards more of a cold weather you know, obviously a very tough game for them as well, where you know, they had a chance to kind of close the game out in Lambeau, but they couldn't I got to give credit and Jeff Hapley, the defensive coordinator. They did a good job of making it difficult onto it and you know, being able to stuff them in the red zone and then turn around and gets pressures and sacks. I think that Jeff Hapley has done a really good job with that defense for the most part. And then you know, I think it's more again it's it's not. I think two is in a good spot. I think he's going to be okay as long as he stays healthy. I don't think some Dolphins are sting to going. We got to get a different quarterback. I think it was more just I think you got to give credit to the defensive side of just Half as the coordinator.

I want to lean towards more of a cold weather you know, obviously a very tough game for them as well, where you know, they had a chance to kind of close the game out in Lambeau, but they couldn't I got to give credit and Jeff Hapley, the defensive coordinator. They did a good job of making it difficult onto it and you know, being able to stuff them in the red zone and then turn around and gets pressures and sacks. I think that Jeff Hapley has done a really good job with that defense for the most part. And then you know, I think it's more again it's it's not. I think two is in a good spot. I think he's going to be okay as long as he stays healthy. I don't think some Dolphins are sting to going. We got to get a different quarterback. I think it was more just I think you got to give credit to the defensive side of just Half as the coordinator.

It was it was a It was a dominating performance. No interceptions from from Jordan Love, which is the first this year, and the the Packers look like they're playing their best best football. I hope you had a great Thanksgiving, Mark. We love talking football with you. Enjoy your Black Friday sports, and we'll talk to you next week. Yeah.

It was it was a It was a dominating performance. No interceptions from from Jordan Love, which is the first this year, and the the Packers look like they're playing their best best football. I hope you had a great Thanksgiving, Mark. We love talking football with you. Enjoy your Black Friday sports, and we'll talk to you next week. Yeah.

I'm very curious to see what Aidan O'Connell does today for the Raiders than the whole season will be waiting to see if he's any good. It doesn't really matter so much, but it does to the raiders brass to see if you can do anything against his chiefs today. So it'll be fun to watch.

I'm very curious to see what Aidan O'Connell does today for the Raiders than the whole season will be waiting to see if he's any good. It doesn't really matter so much, but it does to the raiders brass to see if you can do anything against his chiefs today. So it'll be fun to watch.

It will be fun to watch. He's Mark Dominique joins this weekly on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Also here on Fox Sports Rader. Coming up next, He's Dan Byrom Doug Gottliebin for Dan and the Dan Nets. Is the price right or wrong? That's next.

It will be fun to watch. He's Mark Dominique joins this weekly on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Also here on Fox Sports Rader. Coming up next, He's Dan Byrom Doug Gottliebin for Dan and the Dan Nets. Is the price right or wrong? That's next.

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In the meantime, Uh, let's play a little prices right with the Dan Byer Dan.

In the meantime, Uh, let's play a little prices right with the Dan Byer Dan.

Yeah, Doug. Round two here on the Dan Patrick Show today.

Yeah, Doug. Round two here on the Dan Patrick Show today.

Some great items up for bids. Earlier in the in the show, we had a ray show Gun aka Raygun Hologram trading card valued at six dollars. He went to Chris Purffett, I believe for three dollars. A great bid by Chris Purfett. He met eber Flus autographed helmet mini helmet valued at one hundred and twenty four dollars in ninety nine cents, went to Jason Stewart's for a mere forty nine ninety nine, and then that La Times from nineteen ninety eight that was highlighting the Wooden Classic with Doug Gottlieb on the cover. Went to Doug Gottlieb. He bid one dollar, brought it home for eight dollars and thirty three cents. So everybody has come home a winner so far in the price is right. Let's see how we do with round number two, the first item up for bids.

Some great items up for bids. Earlier in the in the show, we had a ray show Gun aka Raygun Hologram trading card valued at six dollars. He went to Chris Purffett, I believe for three dollars. A great bid by Chris Purfett. He met eber Flus autographed helmet mini helmet valued at one hundred and twenty four dollars in ninety nine cents, went to Jason Stewart's for a mere forty nine ninety nine, and then that La Times from nineteen ninety eight that was highlighting the Wooden Classic with Doug Gottlieb on the cover. Went to Doug Gottlieb. He bid one dollar, brought it home for eight dollars and thirty three cents. So everybody has come home a winner so far in the price is right. Let's see how we do with round number two, the first item up for bids.

Boys, she been the story.

Boys, she been the story.

I would imagine at some point in the next week or so, we're gonna find out that Caitlyn Clark is gonna be the Sportsperson of the Year for Sports Illustrated. How great would it be to have a Caitlin Clark acrylic Christmas ornament with her in an Indian on a fever uniform.

I would imagine at some point in the next week or so, we're gonna find out that Caitlyn Clark is gonna be the Sportsperson of the Year for Sports Illustrated. How great would it be to have a Caitlin Clark acrylic Christmas ornament with her in an Indian on a fever uniform.

Well, it can be yours if you go to eBay right now.

Well, it can be yours if you go to eBay right now.

But instead we're gonna bid on this item here on the Dan Patrick Show with Doug Gottlieb and the rest of us. All right, Doug, your first up, your first bid on the Caitlin Clark a crylic Christmas ornament featuring her in a fever uniform.

But instead we're gonna bid on this item here on the Dan Patrick Show with Doug Gottlieb and the rest of us. All right, Doug, your first up, your first bid on the Caitlin Clark a crylic Christmas ornament featuring her in a fever uniform.

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I'm gonna go.

This is an actor listing on eBay.

This is an actor listing on eBay.

Twenty nine ninety nine.

Twenty nine ninety nine.

All right, Jason Stewarts, I'm gonna say this knowing that there's a certain segment of our listening audience right now who's yelling at the radio?

All right, Jason Stewarts, I'm gonna say this knowing that there's a certain segment of our listening audience right now who's yelling at the radio?

Oh, why isn't Angel Reese on that ornament? What was Doug's bid?

Oh, why isn't Angel Reese on that ornament? What was Doug's bid?

Doug bid twenty nine ninety nine, thirty dollars, thirty dollars, Jason Stewart playing the game, Chris Perfett, your final bid?

Doug bid twenty nine ninety nine, thirty dollars, thirty dollars, Jason Stewart playing the game, Chris Perfett, your final bid?

I do ornaments really cost thirty dollars? Hey, maybe don't have to be like, yeah, no, I'm gonna go lower. I'm gonna I'm gonna go I don't know, sixty eighteen dollars, eighteen dollars all right? Oh, you guys all overbid, you all overbid. Yes, you're gonna have to rebid. Sixteen dollars was the lowest bid. Doug got your bid.

I do ornaments really cost thirty dollars? Hey, maybe don't have to be like, yeah, no, I'm gonna go lower. I'm gonna I'm gonna go I don't know, sixty eighteen dollars, eighteen dollars all right? Oh, you guys all overbid, you all overbid. Yes, you're gonna have to rebid. Sixteen dollars was the lowest bid. Doug got your bid.

Again, nine ninety nine.

Again, nine ninety nine.

Okay, Jason Stewart. Ten dollars, ten dollars. All right, Chris Perfett, I'll go a little bit higher.

Okay, Jason Stewart. Ten dollars, ten dollars. All right, Chris Perfett, I'll go a little bit higher.

I gotta think it's in between twelve dollars twelve dollars.

I gotta think it's in between twelve dollars twelve dollars.

Why would you never mind?

Why would you never mind?

That's all right? We have a perfect bid. We have a perfect.

That's all right? We have a perfect bid. We have a perfect.

Bid here on the Dan Patrick Show, Prices right version, and it was the person who bid nine to ninety nine, Doug gottlieb to hit it right on the head. Doug, just reach into my pocket, grab that nice one hundred dollars bill.

Bid here on the Dan Patrick Show, Prices right version, and it was the person who bid nine to ninety nine, Doug gottlieb to hit it right on the head. Doug, just reach into my pocket, grab that nice one hundred dollars bill.

It's not a one hundred dollar bill, Doug, go ahead, grab it.

It's not a one hundred dollar bill, Doug, go ahead, grab it.

You got the perfect bid nine ninety nine for a Kitlyn Clark, A Crik Christmas Sandy.

You got the perfect bid nine ninety nine for a Kitlyn Clark, A Crik Christmas Sandy.

Academy and all the people who made this possible.

Academy and all the people who made this possible.

All right.

All right.

There had been some controversy, not only with Angel Reyese, but here on Fox Sports Radio on who has been more popular, Kitlyn Clark or Aaron Judge. Well, guys up for bids now. A Top's Garbage Pale Kids card one of ninety nine foil card ungraded Aaron Judge aka Aaron Apple, Aaron Apple, not Arson Judge, Which would have would have been great. That would have been a great garbage pail kid. Jason Stewart, your bid for the Tops Garbage Pail Kids, Aaron Apple, Aaron Judge, one of ninety nine foil card.

There had been some controversy, not only with Angel Reyese, but here on Fox Sports Radio on who has been more popular, Kitlyn Clark or Aaron Judge. Well, guys up for bids now. A Top's Garbage Pale Kids card one of ninety nine foil card ungraded Aaron Judge aka Aaron Apple, Aaron Apple, not Arson Judge, Which would have would have been great. That would have been a great garbage pail kid. Jason Stewart, your bid for the Tops Garbage Pail Kids, Aaron Apple, Aaron Judge, one of ninety nine foil card.

Just let the record reflect that I was a penny off of the last one. One penny lost, but.

Just let the record reflect that I was a penny off of the last one. One penny lost, but.

You overbid too.

You overbid too.

You know who cares?

You know who cares?

I don't remember that part.

I don't remember that part.

Do you know what cares?

Do you know what cares?

No nobody?

No nobody?

Twenty four twenty four ninety nine garbage pail kid of Arson Apple.

Twenty four twenty four ninety nine garbage pail kid of Arson Apple.

Judge Perfet, Were you a garbage pail collector? By any means?

Judge Perfet, Were you a garbage pail collector? By any means?

It was not?

It was not?

Hey?

Hey?

Sorry, how's your bid again?

Sorry, how's your bid again?

Jason's too young?

Jason's too young?

Twenty four.

Twenty four.

Nine.

Nine.

I'm gonna go twenty eight dollars.

I'm gonna go twenty eight dollars.

Twenty eight Doug? Were you a collector?

Twenty eight Doug? Were you a collector?

I was. I was a collector. I had a ton of garbage rail kits, and I grew up for people who don't know in in the El Medina area of the city of Orange bodyo. Olmedina was a butted our area, and so there's a little liquor store in there. I'd walk up blocks in there, and in that area, nobody bought the garbage pail kid except for me. So I love the garage boil kids. Profet's bid was what twenty twenty eight bucks? I'll do one dollar, all right?

I was. I was a collector. I had a ton of garbage rail kits, and I grew up for people who don't know in in the El Medina area of the city of Orange bodyo. Olmedina was a butted our area, and so there's a little liquor store in there. I'd walk up blocks in there, and in that area, nobody bought the garbage pail kid except for me. So I love the garage boil kids. Profet's bid was what twenty twenty eight bucks? I'll do one dollar, all right?

So the actual retail price of this Aaron Apple garbage pail kid price is forty dollars, Chris Prefet, it is yours, Elliot. You get it for twenty eight bucks. Alright, it's deja vu all over again. And our final bid, our final item up for bids. A year ago we found out that Doug's twenty twenty three NBA CON lanyard that was autographed was up for sale. No one has bought it within the last year. Chris Purfett, your first bid for Doug gottlieb autographed lanyard.

So the actual retail price of this Aaron Apple garbage pail kid price is forty dollars, Chris Prefet, it is yours, Elliot. You get it for twenty eight bucks. Alright, it's deja vu all over again. And our final bid, our final item up for bids. A year ago we found out that Doug's twenty twenty three NBA CON lanyard that was autographed was up for sale. No one has bought it within the last year. Chris Purfett, your first bid for Doug gottlieb autographed lanyard.

An autographed lanyard, your autographing lanyards, Doug.

An autographed lanyard, your autographing lanyards, Doug.

Somebody asked me to sign it, and then they went the way tell it.

Somebody asked me to sign it, and then they went the way tell it.

Doug's garbage pail kid would be Hound Doug, Hounddug.

Doug's garbage pail kid would be Hound Doug, Hounddug.

I looked it up, Hound Doug. I okay, I'm want to go.

I looked it up, Hound Doug. I okay, I'm want to go.

So it's a lanyard like lanyards, I'm gonna go nine ninety nine.

So it's a lanyard like lanyards, I'm gonna go nine ninety nine.

All right, Doug for your.