After Shohei Ohtani hit his 48th homerun in his chase for 50/50, Dan wonders if his amazing season will be forgotten if he doesn’t reach his goals in either stat despite being one of the greatest offensive seasons in history. And NFL Network analyst and former NFL WR Steve Smith Sr. stops by and weighs in on the struggle for Carolina Panthers QB Bryce Young after he was benched in favor of Andy Dalton.
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Tony swings HiT's a dry deep to right field.
It is into the upper deck for home run number forty eight, and.
The Dodgers on the board it's forty two.
It's shaw hel Toney hits.
Us first home run on the road trip.
Number forty eight.
Dodgers Radio Network, AM five seventy. You guys look like you're in disagreement there on how history will treat a fifty to fifty as opposed to was it forty nine forty eight or forty eight forty nine? Yes, Seden, But yeah, I.
Don't think forty eight is as good as fifty. I don't think forty nine is as good as fifty fifty as it's like a whole other level that you just reached.
But is it only because it sounds better, No, that makes it better.
It's like it's like hitting another tier where it's like and you know, hey, you won one or you won ten, what's the difference or kind of right next to each other.
Not really, they're totally different. So for us, well, Westbrook didn't average ten assist he averaged nine point eight. Is that somehow take away from nearly averaging a triple double as opposed to averaging a triple double. Yeah, the word nearly is massive.
He almost did like like they always say, like my dad always says, a close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. You know, yeah, oh you almost did. Wow, that was almost awesome. It's still awesome, just not as awesome.
No, it's because we don't take the time then to go, oh, you average nine point eight assist. It's just easier to say, man, I got a triple double, he had a great game, or he averaged a triple double, he had a great season.
Yes, Pauline, Yeah, I disagree with seating and that it's it's more consumable. Like you said, it's easier to consume. But if I said, it's one of the historic greatest power speed seasons in baseball history from a guy who shouldn't be doing that at his size, it's unfortunate that forty nine to forty nine would diminish it because it's the same. It's just a concocted number and a concocted stat.
Well, you had Ronald Acunya Junior the third who had one of the greatest seasons in baseball history, but it didn't have a magic ring to it. What did he have? Seventy seventy two stolen bases and forty homeless.
Forty one homers, seventy three steals. I think the forty one seventy three clock, Why isn't that a thing? Okay, so it's diminished, then it isn't diminished. It's it's an unbelievable accomplishment. It's just not what the other one is. Hitting fifty home runs is a season, but it's not as good as hitting sixty home runs. That doesn't mean fifty is is an awesome but it's just not as good. There's not a magical ring to Akunya's season. The forty one seventy three club. I mean, you're right in that he if he went forty four, he might get more recognition if he went forty forty then forty one seventy three, But then I don't know what numbers do we really care about anymore.
In baseball, orange sports in general.
Let's just say in general, like, what numbers do you go that still has a magical ring? If somebody gets to that point, you know in baseball, fifty fifty to fifty would be you know, kind of the final frontier. Yes, pone.
So with Otani, if he hits forty nine forty nine, it's a drop off from fifty to fifty, but he goes fifty one fifty one, it doesn't help at all. So that one extra doesn't change it. It actually makes it more awkward because we're still going to call it the fifty to fifty club when he's in the fifty one fifty.
Technically you're in the fifty to fifty club if you hit fifty one steel fifty, but.
He's in the back room of the fifty to fifty club at the fifty one.
It's one clubs Like it's like, would you rather have forty nine million dollars or fifty million dollars? Forty Nine's close enough, still good, Yeah, but right, I take the fifty though, But I'm Richie's better. I'm rich either way, correct, and shoe Heo. Tani in this scenario is rich either way. He's either hitting forty nine, forty eight and forty nine, fifty, fifty one and fifty two, whatever it is. But the five in the beginning is better. Than the four in the beginning. It's like basic mathematics.
It is there's a perceptions actually true, fifty is more than forty nine.
Checking This is like one of those things that like like if Paul said, the fact is teams win better when they have piping on their uniforms is indisputable fact, Like, uh, okay, I guess, but it's not really you know what I mean. Just I don't know that we're really only focused on the fifty to fifty because it's easy to say.
God, I'm hoping Otani gets fifty to fifty. Now just get fifty to fifty and then you know week and wouldn't you.
Rather be hoping that he doesn't so you can well for the topic use, I mean, it's just as good. Forty nine is just as good as fifty. Everybody that it's still a great season.
It'll feel like it'll feel The point I'm making is it'll feel like a disappointment to people because he didn't get to fifty to fifty, because they don't want to go I think he had forty nine forty eight or was a forty eight forty It makes it easier on people to say, hey, he went fifty to fifty that year is it?
Are?
So you're saying, are people are disappointed he's not going to get there because man, no, it's harder for me to say yes, not that fifty is better than forty nine.
Yees yeah, okay, yeah, because when I say, Russell, you're not going.
To get into the Hall of Fame because you hit forty nine and it's hard to say, or because you hit fifty and that's a better number.
Well, no, those people actually do a deep dive into your numbers before they elect you to the Hall of Fame, whereas the casual sports fan probably wouldn't. People didn't even I brought up Bronocunya Junior. You guys didn't even know that he was in the forty one of such baseball Nobody cares. You may not watch baseball, but you'll rememb number fifty to fifty with Otani because of the numbers. It's it's rounded off. If I say Russell, what Westbrook Junior the third? If I try to say Russell Westbrook Junior the third, it's a tough name. MVP season, then you go, oh, yeah, you average a triple double. Hey, if I bring up any of Lebron's MVP seasons, you have no idea the numbers. Hey, how about Jordan's MVP? You have no idea. The one MVP we know Russell Westbrook Junior, the third he averaged a triple double. We like it, so it's easy, Yes, Marvin.
I think with Otani it's about being in a new club because if he gets forty nine to forty nine, he's still in the forty forty club. Oh he's in the back room. So he's still in the same club. Fifty to fifty it's a whole new club.
Yes, let's say hypothetic. Hypothetically.
JK.
Dobbins of the Chargers ran fornineteen hundred and ninety four yards this year. We what we instead of we would congratulate them and be semi historic because it's hasn't been done in a long time. Two thousand, But he didn't get two thousand. It's a bit similar like if you ran for nineteen hundred and ninety six.
Well, okay, Tyreek Hill didn't get to two thousand yards last year, but he came pretty close. Does anybody know what the final tab was? No, because he didn't get to two thousand. We love it. It's really easy for us to remember. Yees see.
So if he ran for the people wouldn't remember two thousand and one yards. I just remember two.
Thousand, he would. I don't know how many yards Terrell Davis had. It was two thousand. Yeah, but nobody cares about football numbers. Wait, so nobody cares about baseball numbers. Nobody cares about football.
People used to care about baseball numbers until steroids. Okay, and at that time, we were doing the radio show saying, why don't we care about football numbers?
Nobody cares about football namers. I can rattle off all these baseball numbers. I know all of this stuff, but nobody cares about football. Now we don't care. We don't care. There's no, there's no, there's no I know. I'm the one who said it originally, No I did. I did. We don't care about numbers because unless there's nothing in football where you go, wow, that's a magical season. I mean two thousand yards, Yes, that would be if a receiver gets to two thousand yards even when somebody broke up. You know Tom Brady's single season touchdown mark? I mean, did Peyton do that?
Like?
How many is what's the record. I don't think anybody cares. But if somebody throws sixty touchdown passes, we'll remember that. If a receiver gets to two thousand yards, we'll remember that. I'm just saying I think we like convenient numbers.
Yes, Marvin, I think the magical number of football was two thousand yards for a running back. Because, off the top of my head, I can name Chris Johnson, Jamal Lewis, O J. Simpson, Eric Dickerson, Adrian Peterson. That's just off the top of my head. That's the only number in football.
Kind of a brag by you there, what's that? I thought that was kind of a brag. I would just be ahead and flex off the top of my head.
No flex zone over here.
Sorry guys. By the way, Yes, yes, yes.
I do have the list. It's Eric Dickerson, Adrian Peterson, Jamal Lewis, Barry Sanders, Derrick Henry, Terrell Davis, Chris Johnson, and O. J. Simpson. Want to hear the guy who's never going to get his due for this, because no one's going to go to bat for this guy. OJ Simpson should be considered the single season rushing king. He had two thousand and three yards in a fourteen game season. Yeah, everyone else had sixteen chances to get two thousand. He had fourteen chances. He rushed for one hundred and forty three yards a game. No one else ran for over one hundred and thirty two yards a game. He's clearly the single season rushing king. But because no one's gonna go to bat for OJ first of all historically, Yeah, but uh, it's you know, the season has been expanded.
But did Jim Brown? Did they play twelve games? Right?
Jim Brown? Brown rushed for like eighteen sixty three or cracked eighteen sixty three are on the screws bop nineteen sixty three in twelve games. I have that as fourteen games. Oh okay, Well, then he started his career, Jim Brown. He started with twelve games I think as a rookie.
Okay.
But OJ Simpson has the record, Okay, yards per game.
In a season. Well, congratulations, Jeeves. Yes, Tom Pauli said it with his JK.
Dobbins theoretical if he's got under two thousand yards, he used the word semi historic, and that's what it is. Were you a great season? But if you don't hit those magic numbers that are easy to abbreviate and digest. It just becomes a semi historic accomplishment.
Thank you, Tom Well. All right, Pole question for hour two is going to be but Steve Smith, senior NFL Network former Carolina Panther, five time Pro Bowl wide receiver joins us in about ten minutes. Kirk Cousins joinses in an hour from now. Just got word from Saquon Barkley's camp next Tuesday. Wait a minute, what happens if the Eagles don't win in New Orleans? So he's got to join us on Tuesday, win or lose?
You know, I would I would expect.
Okay, who's taking the Eagles in New Orleans this weekend?
Oh? I, I think we all have to take it right if if.
Barkley's uh health and well being, guest, I'm going to take the.
Eagles, Especially the way the last game ended, They've got to take it out on somebody, and the way that game played out at the end, I think they're going to be a very angry bunch of birds going to the Big easy.
Okay, thank you, Tod Chiefs bring back Kareem Hunt and it looks like Justin Fields gets the start again for Pittsburgh. Did Mike Tomlin talk about how he came up with naming Justin Fields as his starter? He had a press conference yesterday. I know food was involved with Mike Tomlin.
There's certain things that go on among teams that I don't talk about. Whether it gets out or how it gets out is unimportant to me, and I'm not overly guarded against it. But it's just certain things as a leader that I talked to the collective about that I have zero intentions of sharing with the larger public because it's about our collective and how we come together and how we appreciate and support one another. And you know, I can't give you all the ingredients of the hot dog.
You might not like it. Coach, who's going to be your starting quarterback?
One question like what are you doing?
What are you doing?
Just all we want to know. I don't need the ingredients of a hot dog. We don't need to see how the sausage is made. Just tell me who your quarterback is. That's all long winded way of saying none of your business there.
Yes, by the way, I just googled ingredients and a hot dog do not look at that. Thank you, just move out your life.
Just enjoy them. You enjoy them, Yeah, just enjoy You may not like the ingredients of Justin Fields, just enjoy him as he's out there. I think Steve Smith Senior is saying he said this a couple of weeks ago about Russell Wilson. I think the analogy is he's like the dad who went out to get cigarettes and never came back. That Russ isn't coming back. So we'll talk to Steve Smith, he'll join us.
I mean, he's just got a caf sprain. He didn't abandon this.
Family, no, no, yeah. And also, sources close to me tell me this could be the anniversary of one of the more stranger things that happen on this program. Okay, I think this might be the day. But I'm going to have to get some of my best people on this obviously, not the people in front of me, but the people behind the scenes can help me with this anniversary of sorts. All right, we'll take a break, talk some football, try to get some phone calls in here as well. Back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Before we get to our next guest, he is one of four wide receivers in the last fifty years to have the triple Crown. Now that's he did it in two thousand and five. That means he led the NFL in catches, yards and touchdowns. So before we get to Steve Smith Senior, can you name the other ones? I'm gonna throw out. So there's four other guys who have won the Triple Crown of receiving in the last fifty years.
There's four, including Steve Smith's.
Oh okay, so life to name three?
Correct?
So if I say Randy Moss, he did not. If I say Lance Alworth.
Yes, nineteen sixty six, so that's beyond the scope. Oh okay, the first one was it in our list? Here is nineteen ninety cow uh uh Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice is okay, all right, I've heard of him. The other one was within the past four years, Tyreek Hill, Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup.
Oh yeah, that's right. We did mention that.
And then the other one. Here's the big hints. This guy would be in the Hall of Fame except for a neck injury. Sterling Sharp, Sterling Sharp is correct?
Sterling sure make way for Steve Smith's senior NFL network analysts. That's a pretty good company there, Steve. What do you remember about that two thousand and five season.
Well, well, first, good morning, Uh, it was a long time ago. I think I had hair back then, So that's that's one of the biggest things I remember.
But do you help Cam? That was Cam's rookie year, wasn't it?
No, sir, No, Cam was uh I think in middle school at that.
Okay, No, this was Jake de Low. Okay, but you know, you look at that. Why haven't we had more receivers win the triple Crown?
I mean, it's it's a tough it's a tough deal to do, to leak in all the categories, it's very rare. I'm not gonna sit here into my own horn, but you know, everything has to lie. You got to have the right combination of teams playing the right opponents. Offense got to be flowing, good pass game, good run game. You know, kind of just structurally things have to fall in place.
I had a couple of topics to get to. Two of going on the IR as opposed to concussion protocol. What does that mean to you when you see him go on the IR so he's gone for at least four weeks.
It gives an opportunity where you could take your time and figure out what you need to do, sort out some kind of plan. Also, like the fact that on those four weeks, it's not like he has to play, so that means he gets to take his time to talk to his doctors. You know. Going through decision making like this, it's an emotional roller coaster. There's going to be some highs, are going to be most likely more lows, and a lot of conversations that he needs to have and wrestle with and grieve through and process. And I believe it at least gives him the starting point not to be pressured in making any kind of decision tomorrow, because the league is about decisions and doing things sometimes based off perspective, not based off reality. Sooner than later.
Yeah, just concerned me that it was four weeks as opposed to week by week that And I don't know if you agree. If you get a concussion, you're more susceptible to getting another concussion.
I think everybody's different. I've played with some guys who's had multiple concussions. I played with guys who like what for myself, I've only had one concussion in my career. However, it took me about three weeks to really just come out of it. It was a pretty bad concussion. It was an accident. I didn't get a concussion tackled. I got a concussion. Actually I was getting up and someone I didn't know and someone at the back of my head. I hit their knee Like they didn't hit me. I hit them obviously because I don't really have even though my kids believe it, I don't have eyes behind the back of my head. And I hit it right there in the sweet spot, and they knew something was wrong because I was in a huddle. We said break and they said. Everybody broke out of the huddle, but me, I was still there. So you know, everybody's different. So, I mean, I played sixteen years one concussion. There's guys who've played less than that and had multiple concussions. You know, everybody's built differently, so to be able to say that we know how everyone handles it, and all of these armchair doctors who have their personal opinion, I think, you know, I know where in this age where everybody's opinion matters. So I'm throwing mine out there, and I think we all should sit back and allow to it to make his own decision on his career and allow him fit to deal with what he wants to deal with, versus us giving our opinion on something that unfortunately, let's be honest, if you're not our circus, not our monkey, so why do we have to Why are we giving our input on something that really we don't have a hand in it.
We're talking to Steve Smith, Senior, former NFL Pro Bowl wide receiver working for the NFL Network. If you were a player on the Carolina Panthers and they made the decision to bench Bryce Young, how would you react?
I mean, he's got to roll with the next guy. People don't want to hear that, but that's how it is. If Bryce got hurt, we'll be saying the same thing. Who's the next guy up? Next man? Is there for whatever reason, we feel like that this situation is now all of a sudden that Bryce is done. I'm hearing everybody talk about he should be done. Trade him. I think the fact that they sat him down, I think that's a good thing. And the reason why I believe that's a good thing is because this. If you see a young man sitting there and you throw him in a swimming pool and you see he's drowning a little bit, you don't remove him from the swimming pool and throw him in the ocean and say, okay, with the bigger tides, he should be okay because he was drafted first overall, should he should be fine? Or hey, get rid of him? How about do what they're doing is allow him to sit back, evaluate and then maybe train them and gradually put them back in there when he can also learn the game. He was a great processor in college, that's what got him drafted. That doesn't mean what you did in college you're gonna do that in the NFL, because that's the that's the level up that's called advancing. That's why his professionals and amateurs are collegiate. I know NIL makes people believe they're professionals, but guess what, there are eighty wide receivers next year and that are trying to come out. In next year's draft, there were I believe twenty seven wide receivers drafted. I'm no mathematician, but guess what, not everybody's gonna make it.
I'm fine with them benching him, and even using the word benching sounds rough. I think they're just replacing him, putting Andydalton in there, and it's hard for him. You get into bad habits and it feels like he's a little you know, he wants to make a quick decision. He doesn't let a play kind of unfold. I mean, there's a there's a lot of bad things that can happen, and I think sitting down for a little bit, maybe he doesn't play for them, but I would give I hope he gets another chance this season.
I agree. I think he's I don't know, giving him another chance this season only because if Andy Dalton does well and you've brought him in to help him, what if having a successful season or seeing someone else do it not every Some people learn differently visual aids. Some people learn by example. Some people learn by watching other people do it. So sitting him down and letting him ride out the season and learning. And now he doesn't have the pressure on him, maybe he'll learn some things, maybe he'll see the game from a different perspective. And maybe you won't, but I'm pretty sure it will because because when you think about it, this is probably the first time he's looked at the game from this position, which is the sideline with no injury. That's not a bad thing. Adversity is about dealing with dealing with some things that you don't see. And that's what makes football players athletes so much. So much we're intriguing because we can take a negative and turnament turn it into a positive. If we're gonna bitch and say he's he bryce young, can never recover. Does that mean some of these coaches who have been giving a head coaching job maybe too early or or a position too early in their career, does that mean that they never should get a job there? You know this answer, No, that doesn't happen, So why does it happen with players? But yet we could give a guy a job in the NFL or NBA or too early, be terrible, god awful, and then a couple of months later he's at another place worse, and then it takes them three or four times to realize maybe he's just a coordinator, not a head coach. That's just me.
Would you stick with Justin Fields in Pittsburgh?
Well, yeah, I don't know why that. Yes, I would stick with Justin Phils. He's he's winning games for you. Why why change it because you have a guy that you brought in as a vetter. This isn't about who's the best trend or personality. This is about who can do the best job to help you win.
I'm going to make sure I got the quote correct that you said Russell Wilson was kind of like the guy who goes out for cigarettes and never never comes back.
I said, just I said, Russell Wilson's game that we known him to be in Seattle. Yeah, went out for cigarettes and has not come back. He was he there in Denver? Was he a Russell Wilson scrambling around and and and being Russell Dazzel in Denver?
Is he still out for cigarettes in Pittsburgh?
Bro out for cigarettes? Man? He ain't there?
Where did it go?
Steve?
Where did it go?
I don't know. That's why when you go out for cigarettes get their new ports, Bro, they'll never come back. So that's just the whole point.
So you would stick with Justin Fields.
Yeah, definitely, you know that answer.
Yeah, Well, sometimes they just kind of.
Ask, I know you do. You're great at that. Man.
You got a backdrop here. It looks like you're joining us from heaven.
Yeah, you know, it's it's pretty dreary here in Carolina. It's raining, So you know what, I want to be sunshine and rainbows and smiles and be happy. Man. You know, you know I played with this attitude and this persona man, and sometimes you just gotta wake up and say, you know what, it's good to be allied. Bro. There's some people that didn't wake up. There's some people that's going through some worse circumstances. I get. I get to talk about football, a game that I love playing. I get to you know, I do a little golf sometimes here and there and talk on my podcast eighty nine. So look, I'm just hanging out man and enjoying life and loving life. Bro.
But you played with a chip on your shoulder. Can you get rid of the chip on your shoulder after you're done playing?
Absolutely? You know what it's called is called golf, It's called iron out. I sit there and uh play play golf and look at it and and and uh I get on the course, I'm feeling good, look fresh, look dapper, and get out there. First first hole, Uh mat I'll get a par, may even get a birdie. Second hole. I'm over here looking for my ball out in the woods. What you're gonna do? Get mad? You just you just got to take it for what it is, man. And so that's what I'm trying to do and enjoin it. I'm forty five years old. Uh hell, I got I gotta slow down and enjoy life at some point before life is no more.
Yes, yes, yeah, we all do. But we tell us, tell ourselves that, but that doesn't mean we do it.
Yeah.
Well, you just gotta hang out with me a little bit more and see you see, you'll see the change if you don't believe it. Yeah, I've heard worse from worse and better people, so I'll be okay, better people than me, Yeah, like my wife. Yeah it's fair. I appreciate that.
That's a veteran move by you. You don't have any more beefs with players, Like if you see a player is there still a beef with somebody that you played against.
No, not really, I saw I've running the guys all the time.
Well Terrell Buckley, if you saw Terrell Buckley.
Yeah, I think we're cool unless he has a problem with me. I don't have a problem with him.
Wait, didn't you have the super Bowl moment? Didn't you have a he's spit on you?
Yeah, but I can't sit around it. I can't sit around.
Him though, Steve, Like.
To be honest, there, I don't even know where I would see him. He and I would run into each other. But if we did, Hey, what's how you doing? Just fan looking man in the eye and keep it moving, bro, I don't you know.
Okay, just in case, you know, you may see him at a super Bowl or something.
If if that is the case, I'm gonna I don't have a really good I don't really have time for that. Man.
Well, thanks for joining us as always and uh appreciation. Yeah, enjoy your golf game, Oh will I can't today is raining? Yeah? My best of the wife too? Who's better than me?
Should be?
Should be? Not always though always okay, of course always she was born. Thank you, Steve, No problem both, that's Steve Smith, senior NFL Network analyst. Remember the three NFC champion Panthers. We booked him before the Super Bowl, like five days before the Super Bowl and said, hey, when you win, come on and join us. And they lost. But he lived up to his word joined us on the program. He played with Like you talk about somebody who played with attitude, Steve played with attitude. He was. This is one of those where you go pound for pound in boxing, you would recognize Steve Smith as a pound for pound guy, like one of the best, because he was. He was not going to be denied, not at all. All Right, We're going to take a break. We have NFL DOUR rankings, so it's either power or Dour. Also, we celebrate an anniversary eleven years ago on this show, and I'm just here to talk about qualcomm.
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Oh my god, it is uncomfortable even eleven years later. Matt Harvey then with the Mets, so here he is a young star in New York and looking at Tommy John surgery he had talked about that the day before. We have him on the day after, and he just wants to talk about Qualcomm and he didn't understand the kind of the quid pro quo is, I'll have you on, you can get your sponsorship plug, but I get to ask you some questions. It happens all the time on the show. And we start out, I think it's okay, but he's sort of dancing with me a little bit. He doesn't want to say too much about his shoulder and surgery or Tommy John surgery, whatever it was, And all of a sudden, well, this is how it sounded. And it doesn't get any easier for me to listen to this or look at it. When you hear Tommy John surgery, what does that mean to you as a picture?
You know? I mean, it's, uh, it's something that obviously everybody you know knows about. It's it's so common, but you know, it's it's something you never you never know.
And is it scary when you hear that that you know that possibility of you're deciding not to do it? How scary is it?
You know? It's, uh, it's it's it's kind of where I mean every picture, can you can you know, relate to to what's going on? But you know, I think I didn't. I did all those answers yesterday and and you know, maybe at the appropriate time we can we can talk a little bit more about that. But obviously, uh, you know, today is about call Comb.
You don't want to talk about your you know, this whole rehab and Tommy John, well, I will, I mean, I.
We can set up another call if you'd like too about that subject. But uh, you know, today obviously today we're honoring and supporting call Com.
Well, okay, I'll let you get your pitch and uh tell us about Qualcomm. Uh then Matt, Well.
You know obviously we uh you know, average average person uses their phone, you know, over a hundred, one hundred times per day, and you know sometimes.
This went on for another ninety seconds. You can leave it underneath me, Marvin, have a way to connect and like I really cared about Qualcomm. We didn't even know what Qualcomm was.
Baseball is you know obviously huge, and stadiums are sold out everywhere and people.
Are When he says, hey, we could talk about this at another time, I my head pops up and I stare right at Fritzy La fantastic. How did we get into this?
Pretty much everybody tweeting and using face.
But you know, Todd had no idea bring bring Matt Harvey up again. And I see just going.
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Promotions here, you know, and support, yeah.
You know, information about the game. You know that way you don't have to buy a booklet of of.
All the rock don't want a booklet obviously, information, right, Yeah, So he just kept going, and then I knew the interview was over. You can lower it now, Marvin.
Your head snaps up, and he says, well, I mean, I'm happy to set up another an interview at another time where we can talk about that. Oh my god, And your head snaps up and you look right over it. I looked at Todd's so funny.
And all I know is that when that interview ended, we heard from somebody, a PR person or an agent, said hey, we'll set up something. Sorry about that. He nobody told him what he's supposed to do. You can get your plug for Qualcomm. I want to talk to you about Tommy John surgery. And I knew He wasn't a good interview, but he became kind of an interesting interview because a legendary interview. By the way he answered the question.
Honored Qualcomb very well.
Did his credit. I will cover. I will say that that's what he was doing, and he is. He did a great job with that. Oh it's painful, so painful, yes to But.
When you looked at me like that, I really hope to this day they didn't think for second I had some kind of agreement with them. Yeah, just we'll just talk about qualkm you't have to ask him any questions about baseball, the Mets or surgery.
I know that it was insane, No, I know, you would you assume that they know, like Kyler Murray did this. Kyler Murray got on and he didn't say anything, and then I said, well, tell me about gatorade. And then he told me about gatorade and then that was it. He didn't want to answer anything.
Please tell us an advance, you know, sometimes a certain topic that are up the limits. And then we decided as a group, then is it worth having that person on if we can't ask AB or C.
I wouldn't have had either on. But they certainly gave us great content. That Seatan's Kyler Murray precision. That's basically what I was getting out of him.
It was essentially you were interviewing Beavis and butt Head.
Yes.
So the fallout from that, like you said, there was a flurry of emails and apologies and incredulous responses from PR people over the next several hours. It was decided that Matt Harvey would call back in the next day. They reached out, got a hold of Matt that evening, and the next day he reappeared on our show and said he was going through a lot, he didn't know what to talk about, whatnot, and it went pretty well the next day.
How could he possibly think correct?
Yes, how could he possibly think that we were here just to talk about like, you know what?
You know what I've been really thinking about a lot is Qualcomm? Who can we get on? Hey, Matt Harvey would be the guy to have on. Uh hey, do you want to talk to him about his elbow?
No?
No, no, I'm want to talk about Qualcomm. Are you kidding me? Let's talk about that device? How it helps you? Oh my god, I just it was one of those where you go, wait, he's blowing me off talking about his his injury. I mean I already answered all those questions yesterday. Yesterday. You are in New York, you're a star of the Mets, and you don't know how to do an interview where you get to get your plug in and answer four questions and then that's it. Oh my god, he just is he still talking? Marvin?
Actually he just stopped me.
He did, and I let him get his plug. He that's one of the longer plugs ever, the second in his It did just keeps going on it and he had no sensible awareness there. He's like, and I could have said, and I swear to god, I almost did this, Matt, tell me more about qualcomm because I like, I was going to make a total farce out of this.
Is sure a website we can go?
Yeah? Yes, Now he did call in yes the day after that, and then we kind of moved it. I didn't want to have Matt Harvey on again.
That that was even a little bit more awkward. Uh, going back and forth with the PR people that evening. We agreed upon it, and then you go, nah, you said, nah.
I didn't want him. I didn't want him on. I had no interest, but then the Dan answer, They're always like no, no, no, no, we should have mo on, you know.
So crushed nationally as bad as it was, it was like he really and rightfully so he was like ripped across the nation everywhere, headline everywhere.
But I don't know who it was. Somebody was interviewing him after me, and uh, like they didn't bring it up that this just happened, but it just somebody else. Another radio show had him on and treated it like it was, Hey, Matt, how are you? How's the Tommy John surgery? And he's answering these questions you'd never know that, you know. Minutes earlier, he says, I'm only here to talk about qualcomm He's he's got legendary status with this show and he can have that provided he never comes on the show again. Yeah, although Paula goes no, we would have him back, I go no, one one man, Okay, why didn't you guys book Matt Harvey for today?
Well I thought about booking him when his career ended, I think three years ago, but it didn't go over well in the room.
Because well, no, but we're talking about today. If you would have him on again, then you would have him on today. Things haven't gone well for Matt Harvey. No, they haven't the last two to five years. Yes, two to five is a funny line. By way, Wow, he'd.
Prefer to talk about Qualcom if I'm sure I believe.
He would, and you know his surgery.
I think things have not gone well for Matt. Okay, are you what analyst next? Which actually makes the Qualcomm interview? It all makes a lot more sense to know what he was doing while he was with the Mets, and then to be.
That much of an idiot. You can google it. Get it now, you can google it. I forgot about Kyler Murray's Kirk Cousins on loan from the Falcons coming up, or of your phone calls as well. What a day? What a day,