The Best of the Week on The Dan Patrick Show

Published Oct 26, 2024, 4:00 PM

Detroit Lions WR Amon-Ra St. Brown joins the show to talk about what they need to do to make a real run at a Super Bowl winning season. MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred drops by and couldn’t be happier with the state of the game, especially with their two marquee franchises in the World Series and he confirms that an automated strike zone is coming to the big leagues sooner rather than later. And Dan limps to the finish line of this week while recovering from his shoulder surgery and reacts to the Thursday Night Football game between the Rams and Vikings. He hopes the controversial missed facemask call will instigate a change in the NFL replay rules.

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One of our favorite players. I'm on Ron Saint Brown, the Lions wide receiver former USC why out joining us on the program. Did you hear about the trade this morning with DeAndre Hopkins?

Yeah, I heard about it and I was eating eating breakfast this morning, looked at my phone and saw it. So guys won't guess we won't be going against DeAndre Hopkins this week. Crazy news, but I mean I feel like it's kind of been that way this year all year.

A lot of crazy news, especially at the receiver position.

Yeah, I mean the value of that. I think Cooper cub could be traded, you know, Mike Evans got hurt, Chris God went out for the year. I mean, it's how difficult is it to stay healthy at that position?

I think I don't think it's the hardest position to stay healthy at. But you know, it's football at the end of the day, and you get in so many different positions, different angles throughout the game, different catches that you make. You never know what can happen throughout a football game. So just depends, you know. I feel like a lot of it has to do with luck. But yeah, you gotta I feel like you gotta train, you gotta, you know, kind of callous your body for certain things.

But at the end of the day, there's some injuries that you just can't prevent.

But also you have a coach who's a tough guy. So are there times where you go I can't say that I'm hurt, or like you can't tell Coach Campbell, hey can I come out of the game or take me out of the game.

Yeah.

I think it really depends on what you have going on. But something serious, you definitely got to come out or you will come out. But there's you know, if you get a contusion, small things like that rolled ankle or nothing two serious. I mean most guys on our team. I think most guys in the league are going to keep playing because of the competitors that we are. But like I said, it depends on the injury. But I just want to let you know that everyone here at the lines locker room is thinking about your shoulder with revery that you can come back and make it in time.

I'm ready. Every day is a super Bowl for me, like I could play for Coach Campbell like it, I'll be out there. I mean, I'll tape it up even though I got stitches, like I'll play hurt. Yeah, okay, Yeah, just gonna let you know I'm not soft. The story that you'll tell your grandkids about coach campbells what.

I mean, there's so many, so many stories I feel like for me. I mean, every day he has a different story, something else that he's telling us.

Are there a lot of stories you can't tell on the air?

I wouldn't say there's not really, Okay, yeah, a lot of them are really.

You know, he's a character though, man, Yeah he is. He's awesome.

I feel like us as players, you know, we really we respect him as a coach so much because he's the same guy every day. He brings the same energy whether we win, lose, draw, whatever it is, he's the same coach. Anybody knows how to get us going, whether it's you know, long day of work, Wednesday practice, long day of practice.

We got pads on. No one wants to have pads on.

He's gonna make it fun, he's gonna make it good, and he's gonna make his compete at the end of day.

You're supposed to learn from your losses. Certainly in the postseason. What did you learn last year from that loss?

I think for us as a team, we learned a lot last year. You know, obviously it was a big year for us. We went we went pretty far. Obviously we wanted to go to the Super Bowl and win it, but we fell short. And I think going into this year, the biggest thing for us was we just got to do more. Whatever we did last year, it wasn't enough. We got to do more in every you know, every facet, whether it's in the weight room and the meeting room, out on the field and the training room, whatever it is, players, coaches, everyone, we all have to do more because if we don't, we expect different results. I mean that's kind of crazy. So we got to do more and we got to be better than we were last year.

He's I'm on Ron Saint Brown, the Lions wide receiver. What was that like? It's almost like I wish halftime didn't happen in that game because you guys had so much momentum. It's like you went into halftime in a different team or two different teams came out of that locker room.

Yeah, it was like a tell two sides. I feel like, you know, first half, everything went right. Second half, I feel like everything went wrong. I remember going into the you know, going into the locker room at halftime, feeling like, you know, we're half away from going to the super Bowl.

I feel like we're going.

We just got to continue we've been doing the first half, don't mess it up. And I feel like as we came out that second half, they did everything right and we did everything wrong.

And you know, that's how.

This game is, to game of inches, and they just made you know, a few more plays in us at the end of the game.

Who was your idol growing up? Playing wide receiver?

So my idol growing up, I didn't play receiver, you know, growing up as a kid. I played running back for most of my you know, childhood until I got to high school.

But my audo was Kobe Bryant. I love Kobe. That was my guy.

You know, his mentality, his mindset, his the way he went about the game was something that I really admired.

Did you meet him when you were at USC.

So I never met Kobe.

I went to the to the parade when they won the the finals. I believe it was like an eight went to the parade, But I never got to shake Kobe's hand.

Wait, how old were you when I was.

At the parade? I was about eight years old. I was born in ninety nine, so eight years old.

That had to be a big moment. What did you get to skip school that day?

I did. Yeah, it was awesome. It was amazing.

Did you watch the Lakers last night with Lebron and Bronni?

No, you know, I didn't.

Actually, I was busy doing my own podcast, doing my own thing, and I had to get the better ela to be up in the morning. But I saw I saw some of the highlights this morning. I saw Bronnie checking in. I mean, I think that the whole deal with him and Lebron is it's something that you just can't replace. I mean, it's a time in history. You know, one of the best players ever played, his son is playing with him. They got the dub. I think it was an amazing time for sports in general.

But can you take that Mamba mentality and play football that way?

I think so for sure.

I think you can apply his his mentality and any sport and anything in life.

It doesn't even have to be sports.

It can be you know, you want to be a pilot, you want to be a future whatever it is, you can apply his mentality to try to be the best, you know, version of yourself for you know, that particular job that you're doing.

He called me the White Mamba, but he yes, he did. Okay, I think I think it's a positive. He signed his all star jersey to the White Mamba, and I'm like, all right, you know I can at my age, I can still take on that Mamba mentality if I need to.

Like, yeah, of course you can. Alth you got to take it on now.

Yeah, once again, But thank you for the prayers. I appreciate that. But I'm I'm going to be able to play. All right. You have a meeting in four minutes. If you're late, what happens?

I get fined? So you got to pay it?

How much is it?

I've never gotten fined, so I'm not sure, but I know it's a pretty hefty amount.

Okay, But if Golf walks in late, he's getting fine too. It doesn't matter, don't matter who you are. Oh man, you know, I would like for you to be one minute late, and I'd be willing to pay the fine. Really, yeah, what's it going to cost me? Five hundred?

Yeah? Probably like five thousand.

No, it's not costing five thousand.

Five thousand, No, you want to do that? Let me know.

I know coach before he was your head coach, So.

Okay, I got stories. Maybe you can talk to him, talk him out of finding me.

Hi.

Hey, great to have you on and good luck against the Titans. Thanks for joining us.

Appreciate it, Dan, Thank you.

That's I'm on Ross Saint Brown Lions Wide receiver.

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We welcome back Commissioner Major League Baseball. He's Rob Manfred joining us on the program. World Series kicks off on Fox. First pitch will be Friday night at eight oh eight between the Yankees and the Dodgers. How often do people hit you up for World Series tickets?

I would say I worked probably ten hours yesterday, say about five.

Of them were devoted to ticket requests.

How do you tell somebody no, you know.

Look, people understand you know that even we don't have unlimited supplies of World Series tickets. Obviously, you know, season ticket holders kind of go first, and you just have to be honest with people about availability.

So I could be your plus one, is what you're saying.

Dan, if you want to go, we'll find you tickets.

Okay, Yeah, what about throwing out the first pitch? Is that is that booked already?

The first pitch is well booked well in advanced Yeah, that's done.

How will Baseball honor Fernando Velezuela on Friday?

There will be an activation in the ballpark.

I think best to leave the details of that to be disclosed when it happens. But look, Fernando was a really important part of our history. You know, you don't have many players who take over a season the way he did, and we will honor him accordingly.

Could he go into the Hall of Fame as a contributor? If I look at his career? Really what he did impact with race, relations with Mexico, with Los Angeles, you know, it was more than just he was a pitcher for a little while in baseball.

You know, I think that's one of the you know, I'm on the Hall of Fame board, but I don't serve on these committees. I do think that after the writers have their opportunity, which you know is a process that I think has served the whole well, and I had great respect for. You know, I do think that the era committees, if you'll let me refer to him that way, are important in terms of giving consideration to factors like you raised with Fernando that you know, it's not just how many wins and you know what your was, but what did you mean to the game in a particular era.

Yeah, that's why I mean. It's tricky with being a contributor because I argued for Buck O'Neil for years that he Buck O'Neill was the voice for the negro leagues. When somebody said what was cool Papa about? You know, like what was Josh Gibson like, they went to Buck O'Neill. So Buck was telling stories about everybody. I said, it's the ultimate contributor while being a baseball player. So I like that part of it. But I just don't know what qualifies and what does it.

Yeah, No, I do think that.

I think that in the era committee process, you know, individuals who didn't get in with the writers are given consideration on a broader set of factors.

Than the writers may give credence to.

He's the commissioner Rob Manfred. If I would have told you in March, hey, you're gonna get through the show heyo Tani situation, and you're going to have the Yankees and the Dodgers in the World Series, you would have said, what it's.

About time I cut up with.

No.

Look, honestly, the season has been phenomenal for us. Stand I mean, I you know, our tendants really strong. You know, our ratings are good, Our demographics are getting younger. You know, our eighteen to thirty four numbers really strong. Our average age off our ticket buyers has gone down almost five years in the last four years. All of those things are really strong. We had great markets in the postseason with some of our you know, most exciting players represented, and maybe the best thing about the postseason so far, the actual individual games have been so compelling. I mean, we have had all of the things that you know, based on our research, fans want to see late inning, pitching, changes, action.

I mean, it's just been phenomenal.

I think I love the three game series. I love a five game series. I think it caught people's attention earlier than normal because there was urgency there, and therefore we didn't wait til you know, Championship series of the World Series. To watch it was you better watch now, this team could get bounced.

You know, I think that we kind of found the sweet spot on the wildcard round. I think that, you know, in the early years, it was a knockout game, and obviously people pay attention to knockout games, but I think for our fan base as a whole, that's not the way baseball's played.

And I think, you know, the quick three game series in.

One market gives us an opportunity to capture fans earlier in the in the playoffs, and when you get the things I referred to before the late any lead changes and those sorts of things going on, you know, you capture people and it's you carry that audience through.

When's the last time you got a raise?

Let me see, I got to think about that. I think I'm gonna get a raised in January. How about that, you know raise in January?

Yeah?

Okay, So you have a contract now, you know, I had a contract at ESPN that told me what it was going to go up incrementally each year. Do you have your does your contract state what it's going to do? You never thought you were getting this question today, did.

You no, I do have a contract. I got four years left on my contract and it sets forth compensation in a variety of forms, salary, bonus, whatever.

How do you know you've had a good year.

There is actually a review process that goes on. There's a committee of owners that you know, we present information to and they go through and you know, I sit with them at an owners meeting.

And they give me their view of how I've done for the year.

But do you want to hit home runs or you want to have a great on base percentage? As commissioner, you know, I think.

It's important for a CEO to be steady.

I mean, I think that stability, consistent progress is really really important.

I know we're not there at the off season, but what rule tweaks are we looking at?

Well, the biggest thing that's going on right now is the automated Strike Zone. We continued to testing in the minor leagues last year. We are we have decided that we're going to test the challenge version. You know, there's two versions of ABS, one where every pitch gets called in the umpires of the year and the other that's a challenge system. We're going to test this challenge system in spring training with major league players. You know, one of the things that we learned with the rule changes that we did a couple of years ago, and one of the things we've heard from players is just remember whatever you're do in the minor league is it's great, but the big leagues are different, and we're going to try to determine whether the system we have is up to snuff to be used by major league players.

Is it inevitable we're going to have automatic balls and strikes? In your opinion during your next four years, will we have automated strikes on?

I think you will see some version of the automated strikes on in the big leagues in the next four years. You know, look, the technology piece of it is so robust, and I mean literally the path of the pitch is tracked good to one one hundredth of an inch and it's just hard to ignore that kind of technology when it's available.

And I think the key is that remember the well, obviously you remember the pitch clock was oh my god, what are they doing? And then nobody brought it up. It hasn't come up in months. All the bigger bases, Oh we need pizza boxes out there. It doesn't come up anymore.

This is why you're so good at what you do.

I have to tell you, when we think about change, we think about it exactly the way that you describe it.

That we're going to put a change out there.

And no matter how big or how small it is, the first month is going to.

Be hell on wheez. You know, everybody's gonna hate it.

And then you know, they see it and the game is still the game, and it makes the game a little better and people get used to it.

I mean even even little things.

Remember is a few years ago now we went to the you can just signal for an intentional walk.

You don't have to throw the four pitchers.

My voicemail after that change was made, for about the first three.

Weeks, people called me.

You can't repeat the things people say on my office voicemail. It's just people like literally lose their mind over a change is completely inconsequential.

Wait, wait, I can call you in your office and leave a voice message.

Oh just just yeah. Unfortunately people figure out how to get here.

Yeah. Oh, can I give out your number now? In case anybody wants.

I could prefer we put them to the test.

So they're leaving messages on there.

Oh yeah, yeah, people leave messages, you know they you know, look, one of the great things about the game, and you know, it's taken me time to come to appreciate this, you know, good better indifferent. The fact that people are passionate enough about the game to take time to express their views in very strong ways.

That is a strength of our sport.

I mean, it demonstrates the connection that people have to the game and how much they care.

About the game.

You know what, I think you had a great year. And I've said this before the last couple of months, but you took chances get rid of those stupid All Star Game uniforms. That's the next thing on the list, right We're doing We're taking care of that, right, yeah, we are. Okay, that's an easy fix. Right.

Well, you know, let's talk about that for a minute because it's sort of an interesting one.

You know.

One of the reasons that we stayed where we were for as long as we did is the All Star Game uniforms was a product that's sold a lot. And you know, usually when people are buying something, it's an indication that they think it's a good idea.

This was a really interesting one. People were buying.

It, but they hated it.

I don't know why. I mean, I don't know why they bought it if they hated it that much.

But look, I think it's a change that's good for us over the long haul.

Yeah, but you can still do that, Commissioner, you can still make an alternative jersey, but let's go back to the old school.

Yeah, we'll have jerseys that.

We used during the home run derby probably that I think that's where it will land that so we will still have the product. But it was an interesting one, and I do think it's one of those experiments where, you know, we did it, people spoke, we listened, and we're back to where we were.

The Pete Rose documentary Did you watch it?

I did?

I did.

Did you find out anything that you didn't know or something that maybe you cared a little more about?

Look, you know, I'd spend enough time with Pete over the years that I had a pretty good feel for what he was about.

I think the best thing.

About the documentaries that presented a pretty accurate picture.

Of who Pete is and was.

I mean it and he was a complicated person, combination of appealing and unappealing aspects that you don't often find in the human being.

All Right, I want you to answer this so I don't have to answer it anymore when my audience says, yeah, but baseball is in bed with gambling, and so aren't they being hypocritical with Pete Rose.

Yeah, here's here's how I think about that.

I think it's a privilege to work in Major League base Ball and to be a Major League Baseball player. Often when you have a privilege, it comes with obligations. The obligation in this case is to stay away from gambling because it involvement with gambling by people who work in the game and can influence outcomes, reflects and presents a threat.

To the integrity of the game. So that's a category of people.

Fans are different, you know, the government, you know, in this case, the Supreme Court paved the way for legalization of sports betting. Fans want to engage with the game in that way, they present no threat to the integrity of the game or a minimal threat to the integrity of the game. And as a result, we have different rules that are played to those fans that have taken advantage of that business opportunity. I don't see any inconsistency between those two rules.

I really don't I worry about prop bets, Commissioner, Yeah, I don't.

I have to say we have lobbied against prop bets in a variety of states, all the states. Actually they are certainly more problematic then I'll come based. You know, Google won the game kind of bets, and we have tried to get the states to recognize that there are some well betting per se sports betting may be fine, there are certain kinds of bets that are problematic.

Great to talk to. You take a victory lap. You certainly had a great year. Major League Baseball had a great year as well, and hopefully we get a great World Series.

Thanks again, Thank you, Dan, so always a pleasure.

That's Rob Manfred.

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We made it to a Friday limping. I had the under, but we're here. It's our one on a meat Friday. Morale is surprisingly high. Everybody in a good mood. Oh Seton's got his hand raised early. You're limping to the finish.

Okay, I know you had shoulder surgery, but you don't have to limp.

It is weird though, that I was limping and I had surgery on my shoulder right and Todd goes, why are you limping? I go, I have no idea. Maybe it's my left side is a little top heavy than my right side because I have all these stitches in there.

Strange equilibrium thing going on with.

You got the stitches out yesterday. Somebody didn't have. Somebody didn't have bedside manner when I was getting my stitches out.

Well, you just want to pull them and go. You want to chit chat?

What's yeah?

I just have I don't know. You walk in, I want to talk to them. I'm a personality, you know, just trying to make their day.

My questions about like the twins, bullpen No.

I wanted, you know, maybe her to ask about Brownie James or something I don't know. Could have been about the rams sellers or buyers. Who do you like in the World Series. I didn't get anything. I got crickets. When I went in, I said, hey, here's your day. Fine, no return fire of how's your day? None of that all business. Yeah, take off your shirt. And I said, well, you should say please. It didn't. It was bad. It was bad when I said you should say please. First, Yeah, I don't want to buy me a drink. Yeah, So I did say that to her, and then she said what and I said no, no, And I always have to go back to this.

You know.

My wife says, not everybody gets your sense of humor, and she goes, okay, take off your shirt. So I took off my shirt and then they snipped the sutures there and then pretty much sent me on my way.

What a shooter responded with my husband says, don't make jokes to me at work.

I would have been fine with that. I didn't want her to think that I was hitting on her. I was just trying to make conversation. First of all. I don't want to be thinking about her taking these stitches out, so I'm trying to divert our attention to something else. This is all nerves, really, yes, yeah, yeah, Like I'm a little jittery in there, you know, so you know, shoulders a little banged up, so you're gonna go in there. I can see you with you know, whatever you're taking the stitches out with I can see you with the scissors. I was hit just trying to have a little little conversation, a little bedside manner in the uh, in the in the room.

There.

Okay, so here we go, come on, now, let's get up. Should have played this for I know now starting adguard six foot two, doctor tan Jack, You're like, oh, alrighty, it's meat Friday. In case you're wondering, here baked chicken pot pie, very false, loaded mashed potatoes, fire pumpkin pie. Who is it better than we do? No, buddy, buddy, yes, yes, you know.

There are these moments where you I don't know, at least for me, I start to understand that, like you know those progressive commercials where it's like becoming your parents and like you just go home on and all of a sudden you're making like the worst jokes ever that I'm living in a period of time in my life where I understand that I am becoming that person that I'm just trying to like make my son laugh, but really what I'm doing is embarrassing him.

You're like, oh, I'm that guy. Now, I am that dad. Now I have zero apologies.

Like I used to be able to say like something was dope, and now you can't say that anymore because now you're just the dad saying old words.

You know, that's cap.

Yeah, no, I can't say that either. That's that's too old but also too new.

No cap like that cap No cap?

Yeah?

Who capped? You got riz? Thank you, Brady Quinn from Fox Sports. A little later on, Jason Garrett NBC Sports will join us tonight Yankees Dodgers Game one. It's Jack Flaherty against Garrett Cole. Rams beat the Uh you have the Dolphins on here, PAULI I do. Yeah, I think they beat the Vikings. If they beat the Dolphins and the Vikings in one night, that should count as two wins something. But the Rams beat the Vikings last night. The Rams now three and four, the Vikings jumped to five and two.

Not only put it, I put dolphins on there. I spell dolphins wrong.

You did. That's a double way you have dolphins.

It's pretty much the use though.

Like I said, we're limping towards the finish line here.

Kind of ignore your typos at this point.

Yeah.

See he's good.

Degrees.

Do you want to start over again? We're cooking, Yeah, okay, so eight seven seven three DP show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com Twitter handle a TP show did get the stitches out, so almost almost ready to be at full strength.

Are you long tossing little bit?

No?

No, no, no, none of that. And she said, don't do anything stupid. That's simulating a game. Yeah, I can't do that.

Scranton Wilkesbury. They're sending you down.

Yeah, I can't do the golf simulator. I can't. I can't do anything nothing. But when the you know, the doctor or the kind of assistant doctor some said don't do anything stupid. And I said, you're going to have to define stupid. And she goes, let nothing, no heavy lifting, none of that. Okay, we don't want to move forward. Then we move back and I go, okay, got it.

Yes, I just went to the dentist two days ago. Yeah, and they said, oh, you have to come back tomorrow to like finish up some stuff. So it's like, all right, no problem. So I went to the front desk to make an appointment for the next day. She's like, okay, you want to come back tomorrow. Yeah, she's looking it looks like the earliest appointment here.

I have is two thirty. And I went.

And she looked at me and I was like, two thirty. You know, it sounds like a joke at the dentist or whatever, and she went, so does that one work for you? Oh my gosh, Well, okay, to be fair, she's probably gotten that joke fifteen.

Times, that one every very single day when she gives a too thirty, What time is your dentist appointment? Too thirty thirty? And she was not at the stat of the brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program First Hour brought to you by Rapid Radios, their instant push to talkualkie talkies offering national LTE coverage, no subscriptions, monthly fees ever, perfect for instant contact with an aging parent. Go to Rapid radios dot com, save up to sixty percent off and you get free shipping. So last night, the they beat the Vikings, they're now three and four and it doesn't sound like look like they're going to be sellers. And I think that was a real possibility had they lost that game. Talk a little bit more about that. Jayden Daniels Iffy for the Showdown with the Bears, game pitt goes to seven and oh as they beat Syracuse. That was ugly. Early college football this weekend. Notre Dame, Navy, Washington, Indiana, Illinois, Oregon, Missouri, Bama. You got LSU A and m Penn State, Wisconsin, Texas, Vandy, just to name a few. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app. You may regret that this morning, but radio affiliates around the country, Tyler will be taking your phone calls eight seven to seven to three DP show. Coming into last night, the Rams looked like they were going to be sellers. But you got Pookin Akouop back, and you got Cooper Cup back and they're now three and four. So the season far from over for the Rams. Because the NFC West, it looked like it was the Niners, and the Niners were going to run away with this. That's not the case. Riddled with injuries, Cardinals, there are a few pieces slash years away. Seattle the only team in the division with a winning record. So the Rams, all right, maybe they're not Super Bowl contenders, but they're certainly contenders to make it back to the playoffs. You got a great coach, got a great quarterback, you got two really good wide receivers, good running back, and becoming sellers at the trade deadline may be a little premature for a team that has a lot of talent, and you saw that last night. Now, there was a play late in the game, under two minutes to go. Sam Darnold gets sacked in the end zone for safety. They're down eight, now they're down ten. There was a face mask on the play and Al Michael's in kirk kurb Street who were doing the game, and they described it this way, he got a hold of something there.

Let's see he got that face mask his shirt did yep, And they cannot review that, but he definitely got the face mask right there. I mean, anytime you see a guy's head get spun backwards, something happened and he got away with one right there.

And blanking fans are going, what the hell.

There's a lot of different things you can review.

Yeah, there's Jones, Jones saying, hey man, you gotta call that.

I missed it.

How about what the hell? From al ate Lean into the evening, So up by eight, now they're up by ten and no more drama left in the game. This is what I don't understand if I'm to listen and believe what the NFL says with their officials. You have an official who was looking at the line, the line play offensive certainly defensive line, and then you have a referee who's looking at the quarterback. How does one of those two not see a lineman grabbing Sam Darnold's face mask or just the body language of how he contorted back. And the official whose job is to watch the quarterback, how do you miss that? You can't review it, and it was an obvious face mask. Now, granted, if they're down nine as opposed to eight, we're probably not up in arms about this, but you do have a chance. I don't think they had time any timeouts left, and they had to go eighty yards and get a two point conversion. We know all of that, but you're watching that and it's a standalone game and they missed it. Not reviewable. Now, I wondered, since it was a scoring play, is there a loophole that it's a scoring play even though it's a safety. But there would have been a penalty on the play. From what I'm told, you can't review that. That's not the loophole. It's a scoring All scoring plays are reviewed, but you can't review a scoring play like that because then you'd have to call a penalty and you can't do that, so I've been told, but I thought there might be a loophole where you go, well, that's a scoring play. I mean, they did score two, but you can't add a flag to a play. I thought, oh, man, this is going to be genius tomorrow on the show. And then I came in and then the dan z shot me down. They're like, no, you can't add a flag, and I'm like, okay, fair enough, but this is one of those moments where we see it, it's right in front of us, and then the officials are like, I guess we missed it. I don't know if anything to do with face mask is going to be reviewable. I don't think everything should be reviewed, but I think there are certain things that in certain situations. Now, I don't know, under two minutes to go, can you review something challenge flag, anything like that, something that's egregious like that and does have a big impact on the outcome of the game. I thought, may this is something the NFL. All it takes is a moment, a standalone moment. That's when the NFL changes things. When somebody gets hurt or how they get hurt, or a scoring play. Hey, we're going to review push tush. We're going to review all of these things. That's what it takes. They never go, you know, what, what happens. If this happens, it's always that happened. Now they react to it. I don't know if they change next year where they go, Hey, any face mask or questionable face mask penalties, we're going to make those reviewable. I don't want everything reviewed, but given gambling, I think you got to be careful. You know, you got to air to the side of We did everything we could do to look at this, investigate this to get the call right. But I don't want everything under review, yes, Pauline.

Social media last night had a lot of reaction like this.

People thought that NFL has this sky judge system in place for just this type of situation, tight game situation with a clearly missed call, and they called down to the officials before and a lot of people think that that's a part of the NFL. While you say rightly that they can't review this play, it does seem in the past two years there's been a little sky Judge, New York call down fix things movement and why didn't happen here? That was a lot of people on social media last night.

Here's Kevin O'Connell, the Viking's head coach.

What did you think of the non call on the parent face mask therapy?

And yeah, you know, it looked like you got a pretty good amount of face mask there. Not going to get into the call or no call and all that stuff. It's just I told our team officiating and all that stuff. For us to talk about that, for us to seek comfort in that is not how we're going to respond to this. It's just not going to happen. And I'm going to do the same thing right now.

I really don't have a comment on whether.

It was a It looked like you got a piece of the face mask, but they didn't think so, so they didn't throw the flag.

Yeah, he doesn't want to get fined there. You don't have to necessarily read between the lines. You know exactly what he's saying here. When Stafford Williams they're running back, Cooper Cup, Pukainakua have all been in the lineup. The Rams are seven and three in average nearly twenty eight points per game and nearly four hundred yards of offense per game. That's where you if they stay healthy, they can win this division. I thought they were a playoff team when the season started. You have injuries. Everybody has injuries. Now you got guys getting healthy. I know there was talk about Cooper Cup being traded. He could still be traded, but from what I was told, my source said if they lost that game last night, then Cooper Cup was probably going to be dealt. I mean, that's a very fine line here because they're game back, Seattle's leading the division, the Niners are banged up, Arizona probably not going anywhere. I think Seattle's a really good team, but you still have a chance. It's hard to be a seller when you're that close to maybe winning the division. But we saw that with the Rams last night. You got a great coach. Stafford was wonderful last night. Nikua and Cooper Cup awesome when they're healthy and obviously dangerous

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