The Dan Patrick ShowOn today's Dan Patrick Show, DP and the guys react to the Guardians walkoff win over the Yankees. Is this just a blip in the road for the Yankees or do the Guardians have the ability to turn the series around? FOX NFL Analyst Mark Sanchez describes why he does not sympathize with Jerry Jones. ESPN's Karl Ravech discusses his excitement level during his home run calls in the ALCS yesterday.
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Okay, so meet Friday. It's pork shoulder sausage and Toordelini soup and cheesy garlic bread. Who has it better than you do? No good, I can't have anything this morning.
No pesto.
That was another thing. I love pesto. So they were going to take out all the things that I love. Oh yes, so no.
I don't know. That's not nice.
Well spearheaded by Todd Fritz. Yeah, what's going on?
I said, can you do some kind of potta thing with like extra pesto?
I think I said, because then he has to starve himself before his big shoulder surgery.
So that was mean. That was mean by me. It's only nine oh three and already we haven problems.
Pork shoulder surgery. Yes, your surgery is today.
Can we make you nice to go plate for tonight?
No?
Really?
After surgery, you wake up, you get attle apple juice and you'll wake up.
I don't want leftovers. Oh, it's like same day left doors that I'm coming home to a heros welcome my wife? Is I a hero sandwich?
Yeah?
I can take that too, that's great. Yeah, but I'm gonna need somebody to help me because you know my arm is going to be in a sling, so I might have to be fed.
Oh boo, you got two arms lifted with the other shoulder.
We're not even five minutes shoulder.
You got a second arm. You'll find a way to take a bite out of our hero sandwich.
Well, okay, le don't have to go in a blender or something. Just remember, oh no, don't just remember when something happens to you.
I have to say when something happens, God.
Forbid, if something happens to you, let's hope that it doesn't. Yeah, So then I don't hear there's a oh I'm gonna be it's gonna buy me all a weekend long.
We'll make your little jokes. Whether I said something to you or not, you still have your little jokes.
Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards at the Dan Patrick Show. You can slide into the weekend with our partners King Sawaiian. They want you to get together with family, friends and enjoy the weekend. Make every Sunday a slider Sunday. Our buddy, Mark Shint, our buddy Mark Sanchez from NFL and Fox will join us coming up in about fifteen minutes or so. Carl Ravitch was on the call last night in Cleveland with the Guardians and the Yankees. Ravi will join us a little bit later on. We will have the mmwgt W, the most must win game of the weekend a little bit later on as well later today Dodgers Mets, and then tonight Yankees and the Guardians. It was fun last night. That's a lot of baseball, and it was a lot of well for the Yankees and the Guardians late that was excitement. The excitement was taken out of the Dodgers and the Mets as they roll again. Mookie Betts goes four for six. The Dodgers are up three games to one. There was a football game. It's weird to have a standalone, oh by the Way football game, but that's exactly what it was last night. It's the Broncos rolled Saints thirty three to ten. Back to what we saw with Cleveland and the Yankees bottom of the tenth and David Fry at the plate.
But in Game three, cry deep drive left field, Fries watching it is a walk off home run.
David fry lights up the Cleveland night. And then you go back the inning before, and this is how they stayed alive to get to extra innings.
Swinging in hammer, die deep, tay.
Cleveland on, take measure, John to the bleachers and left.
We are tied at five.
John Kenzie, Noel, the Big Christmas they called him. And you want to talk about a no doubter. I think that was a change up that was just left over the plate and he attacked. He crushed, Yes he did. Yeah, that's almost where you throw the bat away, almost in disgust, like you thought you could get me out with that, and he just threw his bat discarded it like a toothpick. The Dodgers are outscoring the Mets by five point two five runs per game. That's on pace to be the highest runs per game differential in a postseason best of seven in baseball history. Stat of the Day, SAT of the day, that best s OAT of the day. Stat of the day. Here comes that? What stat of the day. I don't mean to pump the brakes here, but they still have to win one more game, okay, because it feels like I saw Bill Plashki, the longtime columnist for the la times like we're in it. We're in the World Series. You can book it. Let's just hold off, give the Mets a chance here. Let's just understand that they are still a very good team. Dodgers have been great. They've come up big. Otani set the tone with a home run. I always like when I when he goes to the plate, when he gets there, if you played Little league and you got your picture taken individually and you were at the plate, like that's almost he just stands upright, got a smilest face and it's like geeze, and then all of a sudden, when the pitch is getting ready to be delivered, then all of a sudden he goes into attack mode. But but he does have that Hey, go up there, we're gonna get your picture taken seven years old. Yeah, he's got a big smile on his face. The bats like this, and all of a sudden, here comes the pitch and then boom. Talk about a launch angle. You know, dude swings hard too man good, but it's that it's just such a crazy launch angle. He's so tall, and you know what he creates with the speed bat speed man, those are bombs. Like it's not one of those. It might be. It could be like, you know how baseball announcers do that, you know they want to build up the home run. It might be. It could be like with Otani, you can't do that because we know that's foe. It's gone. Now. That's not the home run call you want to have as a baseball play by play guy. You want to be Oh Tani, that is deep, blah blah blah. Going back on the warning track. It it might be. It could be it eh Otani is like, oh my god, oh my god, that's a home run. But got baseball later on today and tonight and the chance for the Dodgers to move back into the World Series. Broncos rolled the Saints thirty three ten. It was a homecoming of sorts for Sean Payton being inducted into the Saints Hall of Fame. Drew Breeze the same on the same night being in ducted into the Hall of Fame. And here is Sean Payton talking about Drew Brees.
He's meant so much to the city, not only the organization. It came at a time right after Katrina, when it became more than football. And for that what he did for my career, and and all the coaches, you know, we all flourished while he excelled, and so it was great see him.
Yeah, it was. It was a great night. But you know, keep in mind where we were with the Saints. After the first two games, it was like, hey, how about these Saints. Everybody was talking about whether they got the weapons. Here you got Derek Carr, Alvin Kamara, Chris o'lave. You've lost five in a row, you almost five in a row. And you go back to the Saints. They outscored their opponents ninety one to twenty nine in their first two games of the season. They've lost five straight. They've been outscored by combined one fifty one to eighty six. A day, day steada day. This is the start of the new Thank you, Melissa Etheridge. Stat of the Day, brought to you by Panini America. You do have college football coming up tonight. You have number two Oregon favored by twenty eight and a half at perdue. Also the updated World Series odds. It's the Dodgers are the favorites to win it all, followed by the Yankees, Guardians, and very very distant the Mets. All right, see pull question for hour one on this program. Well, we can start.
We've got a couple opsents here from Paul, We've got a bunch from Friday. Fritzie, who's shot out of a cannon today.
I wish he won't. Why don't we start with something a little more simple?
Okay, to win an MLB playoff game, you'd rather hit a walk off home run or throw a no hitter.
This is one of Paul's. Well, there have been a ton of walk off home runs. There haven't been a lot of no hitters. I would take the no hitter.
Yes, I thought it was kind of obvious when I wrote it, that, well no hitter, it's so much more special. But the juice of the home walk off home run makes you pause, doesn't it? That I can do no more? I parked it and I get the run around thing. I know it's still much more special.
But the no hitter, I.
Don't know how many times it's been done, three or four, but that walk off is something everybody wants once in their life.
Well, how many no hitters have there been in modern playoff history? You know? Roy Halliday had one, Don Larson had one.
Yeah, yes, Todd regardless of how rare or more rare one is versus the other. I'm with Pauli on that. I know he doesn't like what I agree with him.
But going around the base and they're all waiting for you and to attack you at home plate, as opposed to the catcher jogging out to give you a big hug that you got a no hitter. I just think this and the fans going crazy a lot more for a walk off home run than and pop.
Up the shortstop.
I think this is going to be the last down.
And you got the no hitter.
Are you trying to look like a pumpkin today?
I'm not trying to.
I was just something I didn't want to overdo the Bronco Then you don't like when I'd go crazy with my Bronco clothes. I put the old school hat on and I'm like, let me put on like a some kind of shirt that doesn't say Broncos all over to have the D And I found this in the closet. It's a little wrinkled in the collar, but I'm like, I'm gonna go. This is a similar orange, not the exact orange of the Broncos, but close to me.
I didn't know if it was a October Halloween type field.
It was not a Halloween classroom. It wasn't about autumn or the leaves. Okay, it was about blue and.
Orange my bath. I don't even know what you just said. I was just staring at I was not What other pole questions do we have today?
Are you rooting for the Guardians or the Yankees.
I'm rooting for the Yankees to play the Dodgers, just the storyline. But if Cleveland would happen to win it all, that would be one of the great baseball stories in history because how close they've come. You know that that it's right there with the Chicago Cubs, but they've been closer to winning a World Series, and they almost beat the Cubs. But uh, I'm rooting for the Yankees Dodgers matchup just because that's what baseball needs. Baseball's kind of good year. I would love to see them be able to top it off with a great matchup in the World Series. What else do you have? See, let's see we got a few here from the t dub.
That's always fun, tod Do you want to hit those?
Yeah, let's do it.
After the wild ending of ALCS game, three, the Yankees will bounce back and still win, the pennant unravel and collapse.
Try to sell it.
You can't, I know, but it can't be just will they win or will they lose? Will they collapse?
Yeah, it's more fun to say that way. I don't like yes or no pole quest. I think we have to you know they're.
Gonna take it.
Baby.
You don't worry about the Yankees or if they are going to blow it like they did with the Red Sox.
It just feels like all of these games come down to your bullpen. How good your bullpen? How often can you go to your bullpen? Not necessarily about starting pitching? And last night the Yankee bullpen fell apart right right in front of us. What other questions do you have?
We've got the Dodgers Mets NLCS result will be and simple and up here your choices, LA and five that ends today, LA and six, LA and seven Mets when the next three and take it in the distance.
Of game seven?
Any other options on that one?
I think those are the only things that could possibly happen for the scenarios of the NLCS or something.
I'm going to say it goes back to Los Angeles that they go back and then they win it back there ruvi.
Yes, we could always do these old standard pole question. If you have tickets for that game? Oh and you're a Dodger. Oh yeah, Let's say you're holding tickets. Do you want to clench and relax, which is oddly like jumbo shrimp clinch and relax, or do you want to would you deep down prefer to lose.
You can go to that game at home. No, I want to get to the World Series. If I have tickets for Game five, I don't. It's okay if they win tonight Jack Flaherty on the Mound versus David Peterson, I'd rather let's win and then I'll get tickets to the World Series. What else time?
If Mike Tomlin starts Russell Wilson Sunday Night versus the Jets, A, he will regret that decision.
B he will have made the right move. Here come this deals with Russell Wilson the rest of the way. What the next few weeks.
Are feels like they're going with Russell Wilson Junior the third here and then you have Justin Field saying I haven't played well enough to keep the job. Which I found an amazing response because now I know JJ Watt came out and said, boy, that's maturity that he would say something like that. JJ Life. Oh I'm sorry, well you were so when I said JJ Watt, glad to breathe a little bit. J J Watt.
Not retired to me.
Yeah, it feels like Russell Wilson Junior, the third is gonna get to start on Sunday night? What was the question?
Tom?
The question was if Mike tom On starts Russell Wilson Sunday and I can he'll regret it or he'll have made the right move.
Okay, well regret it just one game Sunday night.
That's the wording of the question. You want to head it to it all you want?
Okay, he will regret that decision.
Whatever that means to you, whether it's this coming game over the next eve.
Who is this, Todd Fritz, who's in the question? I said it you as it's not.
He'll regret that decision week seven or week seven through nine, or after two weeks he'll go back to justin field.
Just he will regret that decision.
Is the choice. You have to say, Okay, man, slow down, you're picking on me.
You could just say, he'll have made the right move.
I'm going to ask Mark Sanchez he'll join us coming up.
It's a great idea.
We're just getting.
Give your mind one other pole questions.
No, I can't no, No, he.
Will regret that decision. I'll have made the right move.
We're gonna do. I'm low on energy, I'm low on patience.
Now that Park Solder though, scrumpcious going to take a break back after this.
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You're waiting for Mark Sanchez to join us. He is the Fox NFL analyst and he'll be on the call for the Eagles and the Giants. That'll be at one Eastern. Mark, thanks for joining us. What do you expect out of this game between these two teams that seem like they have a lot of question marks attached to them?
Well, plenty of question marks for both teams. Good morning, by the way, six to two in the quarter, a solid probably two thirty eight right now, by the way. Wow, somebody shamey. Let me just season.
All right, that wasn't your That wasn't your playing weight.
Wasn't no.
Hell no, I was closer to like two thirty to twenty eight. Yeah, we're gotten up there, but let's talk about the beginning. Honestly, the thing that's dominating the headlines, and you know, this is Saquon's return to the Meadowlands, and I think it's it. It should in a lot of ways, and in other ways, it's you know, kind of the way business is done around the NFL, and it's a bummer when it's one of your best players and they move on. I think there were some issues on both sides. I think he wanted at least a contract offer, and I don't think the Giants wanted to low ball them, so it was kind of like a well, why don't you test the market. He did, felt good about where he's going to go, and now he gets to play his former team twice, so that's always tough. I think when you look up front for the Giants, miss and Andrew Thomas, I mean, that's a monster. Their left tackle being out, that's huge, and that's gonna affect Daniel Jones. That's gonna affect his ability to UH to operate and we'll see how much the Eagles path rush tries to take advent advantage of that. And then speaking of pass rush, you know, you got the Giants. They were leading the league in sacks. I don't know if last night changed any of that, but I think when you get you know, cave On Thibodeau, Brian Burns who they got from UH free agency, and yeah in Carolina, and then you know Dexter Lawrence, when you get that three headed monster and Dexter Lawrence has to take two guys, then you get those two other dudes on the edge. I mean, that's a nasty pass rush. So without Kveon Thibodeau, that's gonna be an issue. But you know this, this NFC East is up for ground. Man, It's not like anybody's completely run away with the division. Every team has has issues.
What if the Eagles don't make the postseason?
Mark Oh, I think, you know, coach Sirianni's gonna be having a lot to deal with, not just fans yelling at him on the field, you know, and and chirp him back like that's just something that comes with Oh, I don't I.
Don't think he's gonna he's he's gonna have nothing to deal with because he won't keep his job.
Yeah, I mean if you don't make the playoffs there, I don't know, asked Doug Peterson. I mean, shoot, the guy won a Super Bowl and a couple of years later he was out of there. So I think that tells you everything you need to know. But you know, when you go play in Philly, and I know this personally, you know, the fans will get on you and they'll say some personal stuff that's you know, rude and out of bounds and stuff that you're like, whoa, where did that come from?
You know, what's the worst worst thing you heard?
Oh? God?
I mean my nephew was like six years old, seven years old at the time, so we didn't really take him the gags. Let's just put it that way, you know, telling telling somebody, uh, you know, go back to Mexico and take your family back to Mexico. You're just like, wait, what, Like, what does that have to do with with football? You know what I mean? And what am I gonna say? I'm gonna stop playing and take my energy and focus and be like, hey, you know, my great grandpa immigrated here legally and worked for the railroad in Bisbee, Arizona, where he met my grandma. Like, hey, man, back.
Off, Like that's not a really good comeback though, I mean, it's not that.
And what am I going to say? Give my whole family treat? Check out this family tree from third grade? Bro, Like, what are you gonna say?
Hey, how about me take that?
You know.
So it's just it's it's kind of what it is in Philly, and it's unfortunate. But I can tell you that those are some of the most passionate fans around and when you're winning, just like anywhere else, it covers up a lot of awards and people think you're probably better than you are. So you know, it's just it's just kind of the way it goes. But yeah, I mean, missing the playoffs in that division this year, Uh, that'd be uh, there'll be some there'll be some coaches on the hot seat for sure. That'd be tough.
Which wide receiver do you think will have more of an impact the rest of the season. A Mari Cooper Adams.
Yeah, Uh, I think they'll ease Amari Cooper in a little more. Where I think the Jets are just they'll feature Davante immediately, and I think because of the chemistry between the quarterback and wide receiver, I think you know win in doubt that they will They'll feed Davante Adams.
Uh.
I just you know, it brings up a good conversation on having a legitimate number one wide receiver and then a solid, complimentary guy or a number one in their own right in Garrett Wilson, right, And when you have a guy like that, you operate completely different at quarterback and you dictate terms to the defense. Are you gonna double this guy or not? And right there you can just start your whole process either or if you double him, I'm still gonna give him a peak. I'm still gonna give him my time. I'm still gonna use him as potentially a decoy and start working my eyes in a certain direction towards that number one elite player, and then I can get to the rest of my combination routes. Then I can get to the rest of everything else. With timing and by looking people off, if you dare to go one on one, I know exactly where I'm going and I'm not gonna throw I'm not even gonna look at the guy until it's time to throw the ball, because I know exactly where he's going to be. And that makes it really hard to play defense against a player like that, because the quarterback has so much power. You know, you're operating from such a position of strength that you know, you really get to dictate the terms.
Talking to Mark Sanchez, he'll be on the call for Eagles Giants on Fox kickoff at one eastern. This might be the biggest regular season game of rock Perty's career, as the Niners host the Chiefs. Fair to say, I guess so.
But yes, there's a lot of media hype leading up to this one. Absolutely, but that kid's operated so well. I mean, I'm not worried about Brock.
You you would have no hesitation giving him fifty million dollars.
I mean, that's going to be the going rate if he's going to take me to what did he go? I mean, what's he in his third real year of starting, and he's Championship game, hurts his elbow, super Bowl loses, and this year.
I mean, so sixty million dollars, you have no problem. He's the best bargain in sports right now. So sixty million dollars you have no problem five years. I mean und million dollars.
That's the going right. Things are going to look a little different on defense and on offense. It can be hard to pay everybody else. You hope he takes a tom Brady discount.
Well a minute, who is better?
Not talking of Fox tom Brady discount, Claire.
Tom Tom didn't take a discount with Fox? Okay, who is a bigger bargain? Rock Party or Patrick Mahomes.
Oh Mahomes. His deal was was was in the same vein of Tom Brady where it would look, you know, half a billion dollars for a quarterback that it's crazy. Well, over ten years, the market's going to skyrocket. Ye, And he knew that, and the Chiefs knew that, and I think his agent knew that. But he also knew I want to win forever, you know, I got to keep other players around. I got to be able to have like what if they were in the sweep stakes for Devonte Adams, what if they were in the sweep stakes for one of these players after Rashid Rice goes down. You want to have that wiggle room. Not oh man, I wish you didn't pay that extra ten million. You know, what I mean, like that guy gets it. That guy totally gets it and sees the long game, knows that this thing goes on past him playing and just said, hey, you know, give me Yeah, maybe not top dollar by the cent, but you know, I got to be up there. I got to be up there because I'm really good. Pay me like I'm really good. Maybe not pay me like I'm the best, even though I'll be the best, but pay me like I'm really good. And I'm good with that. I love that.
What's going on in Dallas, well with.
Jerry chirirpman at you know radio host listen. I can empathize when people have a hard time in an interview and somebody's really tough on you an interview. I can empathize with that. But I can't sympathize with the guy who has like two radio shows a week. You know, I can't sympathize with the guy who wants to be in front of the camera all the time immediately after games and you know when we got to stop practice for the guy to land his helicopter, see can go do his radio show? Come on, dude, like you know you got the little black pellets and the turf like flying up in your face and you got to stop practice. I mean, listen, it's one of the smartest owners and is you know, helped revolutionize this game and done a lot for the sport. But come on, man, like, we're trying to play some ball here. So it's I can only imagine what it feels like when you page two players, a top quarterback, top receiver, and you know those guys get in a fight like publicly on TV. Yeah, that's probably embarrassing, but if you didn't do two radio shows a week, you might not have to talk about it. So I don't know. It's a tough situation. Because I loved my time there. I truly appreciated, you know, being a Dallas cowboy for Dax's rookie year. I thought it was one of the best experiences of my life. But it's hard to sympathize, you know, with that situation. I can empathize with it. It's not easy to deal with a lot of people, you know, bark at your chirt at you, and it's hard not to say anything back. But you know, my sympathies, you know, a little low on that one.
Looks like Russell Wilson's going to get the start Sunday night.
I was a little shocked, I really was, and I think, you know, j Justin Pield has handled it so well. I think you know his only regret, and he you know, said it admittedly. It was just you know, if I would have played better, it wouldn't even have been an issue. And sure there were a couple of places where he could have played better. I don't know if Russ at this point.
Gives you more than Justin, maybe it'll be a more conservative approach. He's obviously not gonna be able to run as you know, in a dynamic of a fashion as Justin fields, but maybe they want a little more you know, steady eddy and pocket presence. But that's you know, Russ's game has never been really pocket presence. Like he's he's an amazing player. He's made some amazing second effort plays, but if one or two is not there, He's not a guy that's just gonna hang in the pocket. You know, he's got to move, and as you get older, it's harder to move. So guys like that, you know, things, things get tough towards the end of your career. At that point, so you know, I'm curious to see how that shakes out. I just don't know what else they're getting, you know, and what the team is really getting from that, Like do we feel good about this? Are the guys on defense like hell yeah, bro, let's do this.
I just finally we got our guy back.
He's healthy, Okay, let's go. It never really felt like that. I mean, unless I'm way off base here, it just didn't seem like, you know, the door was kind of left open for Justin Fields in training camp and it was like, yeah, well he's our guy. You know. It was never like this is Russ's job. I don't know, it just never really felt like that. So, you know, good, good problem for the team to have tough one, or for ownership and coaching to have tough one for that quarterback room.
I think the Steelers have scored more points than the Jets offense this year. So when we're looking at Justin Field's production, I don't think anybody would have thought he would be on an offense that produced more points than Aaron Rodgers so far this season.
Would nobody would have said that before the season, Yeah, not a.
Lot more points, But you know, now things should change with the Jets. I don't know if they'll change with the Steelers. Hey, great to talk to you, and thanks for getting up Eagles Giants on Fox. Mark Sanchez will be on the call. That's it one Eastern. Good to talk to you. Thank you, Mark, Buddy Man.
Appreciate you, guys.
Mark Sanchez he had a red eye flying all night, getting to the hotel, getting an hour or two sleep, and he said to Fritzy, Hey, I'm still coming on. And I know he listens every day in Los Angeles, so we certainly appreciate that.
Yes, Paulie, all you guys have taken red eye flights. They're always great in theory, like when you plan weeks in advance. I'm gonna take the red eye'll be right back home and it'll be great. And the next day is a complete disaster.
Yeah. I made the mistake of doing a red eye and you stop in Chicago.
You stopped?
Yeah, grab a hot time.
No, No, I barely made it to my connection. I was just I was out. But I did do a red eye after the Broncos opening night. That was against Cam Newton in Carolina and I that was a Thursday night. We opened up on Football Night in America, and I didn't want to miss Friday on the show, and I did the Red Eye, got into New York and then did the show, and then I had to go in on Sunday to do Football Night in America. But it was it was one of those where you go, no, I can do it, and then you come out of the plane when you know whether five thirty in the morning or whatever, and you're like, oh my god. And if you've ever sat there and you go, I got I gotta get to sleep. I gotta get to sleep. You never get to sleep when you keep telling yourself, I gotta get You look at the alarm clock, you look at your phone, I do I do the math, and if I got four and a half four and a half hours, then it's I gotta get sleep. Now it's four hours. Then you get get out. And then all of a sudden, it was just adrenaline after that. But yeah, Red Redeye and principle sounds or theory sounds interesting, We're good or I can do it until you do it.
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The one, Oh to Noel, he kills it left field.
We are tied.
Oh my goodness, Christmas does come early. John Kensey no Hell hit one four hundred and four feet on a change ump and it is five five, the biggest pinch it home.
Run of his life. Nailer down there at third, That ball is smoked left field, back down.
Gay the over run again.
David Fry does it and the Guardians in a shocking, shocking display of power rally against the Yankees, and they win it seven to five.
Carl Ravas with the call ESPN Radio, the exclusive home for Major League Baseball postseason. He'll be on the call for the Alcs Eduardo Prez Tim Kirchen coming up later on tonight. Ravi joins us, Now, how's the voice?
Yeah, voice is good. I mean, you know, i'd be honest. I want to hear given the respect I have for you, Like, what did you think of the calls? And one thing I heard from a longtime engineer was I think he heard Eduardo and Tim scream right away, and as a longtime engineer, he's like, yeah, no, I know, I don't need that and our producer who's younger Dan love that enthusiasm. He's like, no, I was good with it. So I'm gonna defer to you. What did you think.
Well, I'm old school where I don't like the analyst jumping in.
Huh.
I'd like to still get the call. But we've found that you have a lot of these analysts, certainly locally RAVI, that they jump in during the call like a football you know, guys doing eighty yards and like go, go go. You know, so it's hard for you to do your job when you do. I love the enthusiasm, but it's I think it makes it harder for you to you still have to say what is happening. They're just reacting to what happened.
Yeah, you're almost so used to when an analyst talks, you lay out you kind of okay, well he's got something to say and you but I'm in the middle of a call and they're kind of yelling and screaming. So yeah, it's one of those where you, as you know, when you sit there as a host of a show when they talk. You know, I'm a deferential guy, like, okay, they's got to be important, so go ahead, you know whether it's a you know, Peter Gamman's Harrow Reynolds, John Crook or Eddie Perezertim Jimmy Dykes, that's your your job. But that was interesting. But I was just curious that it was a wild game. I mean, you've certainly seen a billion wild games. That was that was way way up there as far as bizarre set of circumstances, things turning okay.
But when you saw back to back with you know, Judge and Stanton, Yeah, your thoughts of where that game was headed, Yeah, of.
Course, no. I look, one of the things we pointed out before they're at bats was the fact that there's a nineteen foot wall and left and there's a nine foot wall in right, and given their you know, home field of Yankee Stadium, that they know what a what a short porch let alone a short wall does. And Edwardo had brought up the point that the pitcher tends to and should keep the ball down, but in Judge's case, a down ball away like a golf ball, he could drive it right out, which is exactly what happened. And sure after Stanton hit the homer. Given the bullpen that the Yankees have had, I thought the Yankees were ahead, freeze up and it was going to be a morgue there tonight.
The sound that the ball leaving the bat. As a play by play guy, yeah, how much does that help you in being a little bit more ahead of what I mean? These were no doubters. Noel's was a no doubter, no doubt exactly. I mean, FRI's was hit, but it wasn't like Noel's. So just that sound. Are you trained to hear that sound? And you go, that's different.
A little bit? And I would say that Noel's even relative to the games that I've done where Judge or Stanton have homered, the sound was actually different off Noel's bat, and it may have also been the trajectory of it. There was no question that his ball was a homer, obviously in Judges in Stanton's case, there were more line drives. But I've seen shots off of their bats where it's not necessarily I don't think that the sound is what's occurring to me. It is more about the sort of trajectory as it as it flies off their bat. You can tell that those you know, those animals who were so big, they got it and it's gonna go. But Noel's was was unique. It was different, it sounded different.
I maintained that. I don't think any ball comes off a bat differently than it does for sho heeo Tani. Yeah, there's just a sound to that. It's I don't even have to watch, I just hear and I go on, gone, I mean, no doubters.
Yeah, and I missed that, gone, I missed that.
Yeah.
You know the thing that the two things that I took away from last night is familiarity as a problem. You're starting to see these same bullpen guys now night in and night out. And the shine I'm not saying it's off of a Weaver or a Holmes. You know, class A hasn't really been a factor in this series until last night, and it is so big that he's now given up more runs in the postseason than he did in the entire season. Makes no sense at all, But my goodness, you know, these guys are huge. You know the guys that hit balls last night that you knew were just missiles. Stanton is a football player, Judge is an absolute linebacker tight end, and Noel is massive. So I mean, you know, my hands are tiny. I mean I have the smallest hands on the planet, and I put them up to Noel's hand. I did not come up to the middle knuckle. That's how big that guy is. He is massive, and when he gets a hold of one, it goes. So it was the size, it was the power, it was home runs. It was the three true outcomes that we saw last night. But it happened so quickly.
Talking to Carl Ravitch, he was on the call last night with the Yankees and the Guardians. That tricky, tricky word momentum can't carry these things over with you, but we've seen where that feeling can be carried over.
Yeah.
Any sense of what to expect tonight.
No, you know, I think that's been the beauty of this postseason in a lot of ways. The end of the baseball season, there was some unpredictability. Teams you know, had bumpy stretches, other teams got hot, some checked out individuals shine. No, I don't because you know, you get into this series now and you know, for when we were working together at ESPN, here are a couple of names for you. So Gavin Williams is going to start for the Guardians. Gavin Williams made seven starts at home this year, he lost all of them. Like the last guy to do that was in nineteen ninety three. You remember Anthony Young Chase Stadium. Seven starts, lost them all. So you know, certainly you'd think going into this thing DP that that's not a good omen. He also gets no run support, but he's going up against a rookie in Luis Heel and the last Yankee rookie to win a postseason start was a guy named El Duque in nineteen ninety eight. So no, I think you get into this part of the staffs, the starters, the bullpens have been used. We had fifth, we only had fifteen pitchers last night. Maybe we can go up a little bit in this game. So no, don't. I don't look at it that way. I do think that part of what you leave with last night is hmm okay. Well, Weaver had been literally invincible. I mean, his story is crazy. And Steven Vote, the manager of the Guardians, was a teammate, was a bullpen catcher for him, He coached him and he looked out at Luke Weaver prior to last night and said, I don't even know who that guy is, Like, I don't recognize him. This is not the guy that I was catching with or a team, no idea who he is. But last night, you know, he left a couple of pitches over the plate and he paid for it.
It used to be starting pitching that we talked about starting pitching this time of the year, and I missed that and without sounding like they get off my line, guy, But how do we get back to where the starting pitcher does have a presence, does impact a series?
Yeah, it's a great question, you know, And again, I think even over the years while we focused on starting pitching, there were really and I'm excluding the Braves of the nineties when they had such great depth, But for the most part, these teams you remember one or two guys from a staff. You remember Madison Bumgarner, you know, you remember Garrett Cole here. So they go out and mad Carlos were done and hope it happens. But we have absolutely minimized the requirements that are made on starting pitchers. Matthew Boyd gave him five innings last night. That was the first guy for the Guardians in the postseason to actually throw five innings. And yet if you look at their formula, if Steven Vote were to present you a formula, just get me five innings any perfect world. And we saw him go to the bullpen the other game, and it probably backfiright. Five innings sets us up for the rest of the guys to come in and we're going to be fine until that changes. And it starts at the youth level. You know, I see the little leaguers all the time. It's bizarre. I don't want to go too deep into the sort of pull the curtain back, but when you worked at ESPN, there was a producer named Sean Fitzgerald. He's out here working now. He's got a son that's fourteen years old who just had surgery on his elbow. So all of this stuff, and this, according to Shaw, wasn't because he overthrew. They were very careful, but you're still putting a tremendous amount of demands on young kid's arms, and as a result, they get hurt and then we slowly begin to wean them off of one hundred pitch outings or throwing like the Braves did in the nineties. On your off day and you throw a lot, you know, there's obviously efforts by Major League Baseball to put an emphasis back on starting pitching. But that's one of those things, you know, like bunting and going the other way and advancing a runner. You've got to start that at an early age. Otherwise we're all going, you know, John Kenzie Noel and flipping bats and hitting omers.
Yeah. I was on my soapbox the other day. I said, I'll give you anybody in baseball who's throwing a hundred, and I'll take Greg Maddox right, and I'm going to beat you because there still is location, location, location and movement. And if you have that, they'll catch up to one hundred. They will hitters will say I can hit a hundred. We're fascinated by it. But if you talk to those old school guys, they're like, god, Maddix drove me crazy because you know him and Glavin, you know guys who were pictures and yeah, yes, exactly. I don't know if how we get back to that other than we finally realize we're just sending these kids into having surgery. Like it's now, it's like, I don't know, you're you're you're honored. Oh you had Tommy John, you came back all right, you must have been throwing pretty hard. Now.
Yeah, No, it's it's like you're going into an interview and your resume as a picture is, can throw a hundred, has this rapid spin rate, a stands six foot four, have great extension, had Tommy John surgery check checks you Oh good, so you're good for another few years. Yeah, you're right about that, you know, I think. I think then the issue that is one of the issues is that what made Maddix so special and Glavin clearly was their consistency and their longevity. And part of that was because and you know Maddis, you know, he threw hard early on, and then he became quote unquote a picture. Now there's a formula where you want to create a picture, but in creating a picture, you're teaching velocity, and you're teaching this emphasis on spin rate. A great example of a guy who has come so far, but you wonder about the longevity because of how hard they throw and this incredible spin rate is the guy who was traded from the Yankees to the Padres. His name is Michael King. And when he's on the mount and he's right, the stuff he's throwing is unhittable, Like you cannot hit it, and it moves everywhere. It's not one hundred. It can be ninety four, it can be ninety two. It sweeps, it spins, it dives, its darts. But because of the emphasis on spin, while we may have pulled back on the velocity a little bit, it's still a huge pressure point on your elbow and your shoulder. So I'm not sure that even by creating pictures, where in any way going to minimize the impact on picture's elbows.
We saw with Yamamoto last night, I mean, you want to talk about movement and filth like it was? It was. It was crazy, some of the movement that he had. I mean, it was fun to watch something like that instead of you know, ninety seven ninety eight. This had movement on it, and I'm fascinated. I loved it.
Yeah, yeah, and that's what that's what King does. And I will say that, you know what makes Weaver so special. He's not one hundred mile an hour guy. I mean, he's a fastball, change up guy. So you know you need to you need three pitches, but you certainly need two pitches, and they both ideally come out of the same slot and they move differently. But he's not blowing guys away. Class A is that guy. Class A will come in and throw gas, and as you saw last night, it can be turned around.
He's Carl Ravich.
Now.
I asked this to Chris Collinsworth and I said, do you root for the previous week of what that will mean for Sunday Night football? And he said yes, any part of you rooting for Yankees Dodgers because of maybe what that would mean nationally.
Personally? No, I'm not. I'm not vested in that. I think as a fan of baseball, it would be a great theater because of the individuals involved. But I think the difference between Chris and my answer is he's going to do the game next Sunday. I'm not going to go call the World Series. So if I were to call the World Series, I'd have a different answer. I'd say, sure, I want to see show A, I want to see Judge, I want the Superstars there. I think it's going to attract more eyeballs. But if you know that, my answer is I'm not vested in it. What I think I am vested in is having this series, you know, go seven games, be exciting. I was very worried when the Yankees hit those homers, that this series is now you know, likely to die on the vine, and how hard it is to come back from three to zero. So you know, as you know, in this in this industry, in these seats, we get we get hammered because we root for certain teams that couldn't be personally further from the truth. We root for the game, we root for the story. We want close competitive games. It's stinks trying to fill when it's nine to one after two winnings. It ain't much fun. We like the close games and we just do not care who wins.
I don't great job, my best, Timmy and Eduardo. Thanks for joining us, Rabbi.
My pleasure, my friend. Thanks man.
That's Carl Raviitch. She'll be on the call later on tonight. And the exclusive that's the exclusive home of a Major League Baseball postseason heard on the ESPN app series XM channel eighty one and eighty as well
