In today’s episode of The Damp Show Sam talks about having his Facebook group copied. He explains how he discovered this and what he is doing about it. Sam also speaks up about another issue he has faced on social media and how he is managing this.

He also talks about a recent survey he has done on a property that has a high-water table. Including, why the insurance company would not pay out and how he is tackling raising the sub-floor.

Get Your FREE E-Book PLUS More Great Content, Courses and Advice @ www.dampsam.com

KEY TAKEAWAYS
Imitation is the best form of flattery, but no one wants what they produce to be used to mislead people.
The more people who post on social media about damp and condensation the better because it is a great way for the public to learn.
It is important to be open-minded and listen to how others tackle damp and mould issues. Even if you don´t fully agree with that approach you still learn things.
Traditional materials still work so can be used for fixing the issues heritage properties have. But modern materials also have advantages.
Include proper ventilation when you lay a new subfloor.
In areas with high water tables, sump pumps are needed.
Since 2006, if you sell a property in the UK with a subfloor issue that you know about, the new owner can sue you.
Consider having a damp and timber survey done before buying a house.



BEST MOMENTS 

“It´s a bit underhanded, but people do it.”

“I just want to find out why he is being a fraud… what´s his agenda.”

“Not all damp is rising.”



Do you want to find out why your property is damp, so you can start the process of solving the issue the right way? – Go to Why Do I Have Damp in My Property Damp Sam Facebook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/84911630448/ and upload your photos.



ABOUT THE HOST
Simon Cooper AKA Damp Sam is a time-served plasterer since 1983 and has a HNC in building management. He is the director of 3 Ltd companies and a PCA-qualified Damp and structural waterproofing surveyor. He also owns a portfolio of properties that he renovated over the years.

Check my YouTube Channel where you can find hundreds of videos all about Damp!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDh4nXWTEAPxsG5JIX3VdIg - if you also want access to the paid membership content, click the Join button.

https://www.instagram.com/all_dry_damp/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-cooper-csrt-cssw-hncdampsam-45528649/

https://www.tiktok.com/@damp_sam?lang=en

The products Damp Sam recommends, because he has used them for many years, are available here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/dampsamhnccsrtcssw



CONTACT METHOD

Dampsam@alldrydampproofing.com
https://www.facebook.com/AllDryDP/

Simon@thedampshow.co.uk

Simon@alldrydampproofing.com

In today’s episode of The Damp Show Sam talks about having his Facebook group copied. He explains how he discovered this and what he is doing about it. Sam also speaks up about another issue he has faced on social media and how he is managing this.
He also talks about a recent survey he has done on a property that has a high-water table. Including, why the insurance company would not pay out and how he is tackling raising the sub-floor.
<a href="http://dampsam.com/">Get Your FREE E-Book PLUS More Great Content, Courses and Advice @ www.dampsam.com</a>
KEY TAKEAWAYS
<ul>
<li>Imitation is the best form of flattery, but no one wants what they produce to be used to mislead people.</li>
<li>The more people who post on social media about damp and condensation the better because it is a great way for the public to learn.</li>
<li>It is important to be open-minded and listen to how others tackle damp and mould issues. Even if you don´t fully agree with that approach you still learn things.</li>
<li>Traditional materials still work so can be used for fixing the issues heritage properties have. But modern materials also have advantages.</li>
<li>Include proper ventilation when you lay a new subfloor.</li>
<li>In areas with high water tables, sump pumps are needed.</li>
<li>Since 2006, if you sell a property in the UK with a subfloor issue that you know about, the new owner can sue you.</li>
<li>Consider having a damp and timber survey done before buying a house.</li>
</ul>
 
BEST MOMENTS 
“It´s a bit underhanded, but people do it.”
“I just want to find out why he is being a fraud… what´s his agenda.”
“Not all damp is rising.”
 
Do you want to find out why your property is damp, so you can start the process of solving the issue the right way? – Go to Why Do I Have Damp in My Property Damp Sam Facebook Group - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/84911630448/">https://www.facebook.com/groups/84911630448/</a> and upload your photos.
 
ABOUT THE HOST Simon Cooper AKA Damp Sam is a time-served plasterer since 1983 and has a HNC in building management. He is the director of 3 Ltd companies and a PCA-qualified Damp and structural waterproofing surveyor. He also owns a portfolio of properties that he renovated over the years.
Check my YouTube Channel where you can find hundreds of videos all about Damp!
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDh4nXWTEAPxsG5JIX3VdIg">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDh4nXWTEAPxsG5JIX3VdIg</a> - if you also want access to the paid membership content, click the Join button.
https://www.instagram.com/all_dry_damp/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-cooper-csrt-cssw-hncdampsam-45528649/
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@damp_sam?lang=en">https://www.tiktok.com/@damp_sam?lang=en</a>
The products Damp Sam recommends, because he has used them for many years, are available here: <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/dampsamhnccsrtcssw">https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/dampsamhnccsrtcssw</a>
 
CONTACT METHOD
<a href="mailto:Dampsam@alldrydampproofing.com">Dampsam@alldrydampproofing.com</a> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/AllDryDP/">https://www.facebook.com/AllDryDP/</a>
<a href="mailto:Simon@thedampshow.co.uk">Simon@thedampshow.co.uk</a>
<a href="mailto:Simon@alldrydampproofing.com">Simon@alldrydampproofing.com</a>

Moisture (damp) affects all properties in more ways that people think. Damp Sam will look to wade through the maze of issues in a no nonsense straight forward manner that everyone can understand. He will tell you what systems are best why you need to used them and how they are installed.

Simon Cooper AKA Damp Sam is a time served plasterer since 1983 and has a HNC in building management. He is the director of 3 Ltd companies and a PCA qualified Damp and structural waterproofing surveyor. He also owns a portfolio of properties which he renovated over the years.

Moisture (damp) affects all properties in more ways that people think. Damp Sam will look to wade through the maze of issues in a no nonsense straight forward manner that everyone can understand. He will tell you what systems are best why you need to used them and how they are installed.
Simon Cooper AKA Damp Sam is a time served plasterer since 1983 and has a HNC in building management. He is the director of 3 Ltd companies and a PCA qualified Damp and structural waterproofing surveyor. He also owns a portfolio of properties which he renovated over the years.

The Damp Show

Imitation Is The Best Form of Flattery

Today’s episode of The Damp Show is all about Elta Trade the firm that Sam has been buying his fans from for 10 years. A firm he has found that he has been able to rely on to sell him products that work well and are very effective at managing airflow in all sorts of buildings and therefore playing an important role in managing damp and mould.



Sam tells you all about their top products and explains exactly how he has been using them for the past 10 years.





Get Your FREE E-Book PLUS More Great Content, Courses and Advice @ www.dampsam.com





KEY TAKEAWAYS
Elta Trade make an alternating fan, called the push pull fan, that can change the air inside a room. It is extremely quiet.
They are careful to produce products that comply with all building regulations and quickly update them when the regulations change.
The support and advice they offer is very good and easy to access.
Be careful not to fit commercial fans in residential properties, they tend to be too noisy for these settings.
For homeowners they sell a remote-controlled fan.
For landlords who do not want their tenants to turn the fan off, which could lead to mould, Elta makes a low carbon unit that cannot be turned off.
Elta also sells window kits.



BEST MOMENTS 

“You need air coming in and going out and you need it not to be freezing cold.”

“Elta Trade specializes in residential ventilation that's available to electricians, plumbers and homeowners.”

“They are low carbon so they´re not going to cost you a fortune.”



Do you want to find out why your property is damp, so you can start the process of solving the issue the right way? – Go to Why Do I Have Damp in My Property Damp Sam Facebook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/84911630448/ and upload your photos.



EPISODE RESOURCES

Fans for the tradespeople - https://www.eltatrade.co.uk/



Fans for homeowners - https://eltauk.com/


ABOUT THE HOST
Simon Cooper AKA Damp Sam is a time-served plasterer since 1983 and has a HNC in building management. He is the director of 3 Ltd companies and a PCA-qualified Damp and structural waterproofing surveyor. He also owns a portfolio of properties that he renovated over the years. 

Check my YouTube Channel where you can find hundreds of videos all about Damp!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDh4nXWTEAPxsG5JIX3VdIg - if you also want access to the paid membership content, click the Join button.



https://www.instagram.com/all_dry_damp/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-cooper-csrt-cssw-hncdampsam-45528649/

https://www.tiktok.com/@damp_sam?lang=en



The products Damp Sam recommends, because he has used them for many years, are available here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/dampsamhnccsrtcssw



CONTACT METHOD

Dampsam@alldrydampproofing.com
https://www.facebook.com/AllDryDP/

Simon@thedampshow.co.uk

Simon@alldrydampproofing.com

Today’s episode of The Damp Show is all about Elta Trade the firm that Sam has been buying his fans from for 10 years. A firm he has found that he has been able to rely on to sell him products that work well and are very effective at managing airflow in all sorts of buildings and therefore playing an important role in managing damp and mould.
 
Sam tells you all about their top products and explains exactly how he has been using them for the past 10 years.
 
<a href="http://dampsam.com/">Get Your FREE E-Book PLUS More Great Content, Courses and Advice @ www.dampsam.com</a>
 
KEY TAKEAWAYS
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Elta Trade make an alternating fan, called the push pull fan, that can change the air inside a room. It is extremely quiet.</li>
<li aria-level="1">They are careful to produce products that comply with all building regulations and quickly update them when the regulations change.</li>
<li aria-level="1">The support and advice they offer is very good and easy to access.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Be careful not to fit commercial fans in residential properties, they tend to be too noisy for these settings.</li>
<li aria-level="1">For homeowners they sell a remote-controlled fan.</li>
<li aria-level="1">For landlords who do not want their tenants to turn the fan off, which could lead to mould, Elta makes a low carbon unit that cannot be turned off.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Elta also sells window kits.</li>
</ul>
 
BEST MOMENTS 
“You need air coming in and going out and you need it not to be freezing cold.”
“Elta Trade specializes in residential ventilation that's available to electricians, plumbers and homeowners.”
“They are low carbon so they´re not going to cost you a fortune.”
 
Do you want to find out why your property is damp, so you can start the process of solving the issue the right way? – Go to Why Do I Have Damp in My Property Damp Sam Facebook Group - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/84911630448/">https://www.facebook.com/groups/84911630448/</a> and upload your photos.
 
EPISODE RESOURCES
Fans for the tradespeople - https://www.eltatrade.co.uk/
 
Fans for homeowners - https://eltauk.com/
 ABOUT THE HOST Simon Cooper AKA Damp Sam is a time-served plasterer since 1983 and has a HNC in building management. He is the director of 3 Ltd companies and a PCA-qualified Damp and structural waterproofing surveyor. He also owns a portfolio of properties that he renovated over the years. 
Check my YouTube Channel where you can find hundreds of videos all about Damp!
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDh4nXWTEAPxsG5JIX3VdIg">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDh4nXWTEAPxsG5JIX3VdIg</a> - if you also want access to the paid membership content, click the Join button.
 
https://www.instagram.com/all_dry_damp/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-cooper-csrt-cssw-hncdampsam-45528649/
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@damp_sam?lang=en">https://www.tiktok.com/@damp_sam?lang=en</a>
 
The products Damp Sam recommends, because he has used them for many years, are available here: <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/dampsamhnccsrtcssw">https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/dampsamhnccsrtcssw</a>
 
CONTACT METHOD
<a href="mailto:Dampsam@alldrydampproofing.com">Dampsam@alldrydampproofing.com </a><a href="https://www.facebook.com/AllDryDP/">https://www.facebook.com/AllDryDP/</a>
<a href="mailto:Simon@thedampshow.co.uk">Simon@thedampshow.co.uk</a>
<a href="mailto:Simon@alldrydampproofing.com">Simon@alldrydampproofing.com</a>

Who Are Elta Trade?!

Today’s episode of The Damp Show is all about rising damp, in particular, the myths, to do this Sam uses a recent survey he has carried out. He explains what a salt band looks like, how they form and how to recognise one that someone has tried to hide.



This property also had sulphate contamination on the chimney breasts, penetrating damp, the wrong type of ventilation fans and a bridging issue, so you will also learn something about those common damp problems by listening to this episode.



Get Your FREE E-Book PLUS More Great Content, Courses and Advice @ www.dampsam.com





KEY TAKEAWAYS
Rising damp is very rare, but it does exist, so it is important to know how to recognise it even if someone has tried to cover it up.
An earthy smell is an unmistakable sign of dampness.
If someone tells you a property is dry get it in writing, if you don´t and it is damp you have no proof.
Fans that only operate when the lights are switched on are not effective enough.
When a fan is off, it is a hole in the wall, which can contribute to damp issues because when it rains all of that humid air comes straight into the property.
All kinds of damp can easily be covered up by skimming and painting everything, just before it goes on the market. So, you need to be careful when buying.
If you are buying a property, especially via a broker, check the terms and conditions, often there will be a due diligence clause that states the buyer needs to do their due diligence, which means getting surveys done.



BEST MOMENTS 

“I´ve seen it with my own eyes, felt and smelt it, it´s a salt band.”

“Because they are hydroscopic, they'll absorb moisture from the atmosphere.”

“If I do ´owt wrong, then we try and fix it. We are not one of those fly-by-night firms.”



Do you want to find out why your property is damp, so you can start the process of solving the issue the right way? – Go to Why Do I Have Damp in My Property Damp Sam Facebook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/84911630448/ and upload your photos.



EPISODE RESOURCES

What a salt band looks like - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m121VgI3rE

Sam´s Express Damp proofing System Masterclass - https://dampsamsdepot.samcart.com/products/the-express-damp-proofing-system-simple-to-follow-on-line-coourse


ABOUT THE HOST
Simon Cooper AKA Damp Sam is a time-served plasterer since 1983 and has a HNC in building management. He is the director of 3 Ltd companies and a PCA-qualified Damp and structural waterproofing surveyor. He also owns a portfolio of properties that he renovated over the years. 

Check my YouTube Channel where you can find hundreds of videos all about Damp!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDh4nXWTEAPxsG5JIX3VdIg - if you also want access to the paid membership content, click the Join button.



https://www.instagram.com/all_dry_damp/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-cooper-csrt-cssw-hncdampsam-45528649/

https://www.tiktok.com/@damp_sam?lang=en



The products Damp Sam recommends, because he has used them for many years, are available here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/dampsamhnccsrtcssw



CONTACT METHOD

Dampsam@alldrydampproofing.com
https://www.facebook.com/AllDryDP/

Simon@thedampshow.co.uk

Simon@alldrydampproofing.com

Today’s episode of The Damp Show is all about rising damp, in particular, the myths, to do this Sam uses a recent survey he has carried out. He explains what a salt band looks like, how they form and how to recognise one that someone has tried to hide.
 
This property also had sulphate contamination on the chimney breasts, penetrating damp, the wrong type of ventilation fans and a bridging issue, so you will also learn something about those common damp problems by listening to this episode.
 
<a href="http://dampsam.com/">Get Your FREE E-Book PLUS More Great Content, Courses and Advice @ www.dampsam.com</a>
 
KEY TAKEAWAYS
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Rising damp is very rare, but it does exist, so it is important to know how to recognise it even if someone has tried to cover it up.</li>
<li aria-level="1">An earthy smell is an unmistakable sign of dampness.</li>
<li aria-level="1">If someone tells you a property is dry get it in writing, if you don´t and it is damp you have no proof.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Fans that only operate when the lights are switched on are not effective enough.</li>
<li aria-level="1">When a fan is off, it is a hole in the wall, which can contribute to damp issues because when it rains all of that humid air comes straight into the property.</li>
<li aria-level="1">All kinds of damp can easily be covered up by skimming and painting everything, just before it goes on the market. So, you need to be careful when buying.</li>
<li aria-level="1">If you are buying a property, especially via a broker, check the terms and conditions, often there will be a due diligence clause that states the buyer needs to do their due diligence, which means getting surveys done.</li>
</ul>
 
BEST MOMENTS 
“I´ve seen it with my own eyes, felt and smelt it, it´s a salt band.”
“Because they are hydroscopic, they'll absorb moisture from the atmosphere.”
“If I do ´owt wrong, then we try and fix it. We are not one of those fly-by-night firms.”
 
Do you want to find out why your property is damp, so you can start the process of solving the issue the right way? – Go to Why Do I Have Damp in My Property Damp Sam Facebook Group - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/84911630448/">https://www.facebook.com/groups/84911630448/</a> and upload your photos.
 
EPISODE RESOURCES
What a salt band looks like - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m121VgI3rE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m121VgI3rE</a>
Sam´s Express Damp proofing System Masterclass - https://dampsamsdepot.samcart.com/products/the-express-damp-proofing-system-simple-to-follow-on-line-coourse
 ABOUT THE HOST Simon Cooper AKA Damp Sam is a time-served plasterer since 1983 and has a HNC in building management. He is the director of 3 Ltd companies and a PCA-qualified Damp and structural waterproofing surveyor. He also owns a portfolio of properties that he renovated over the years. 
Check my YouTube Channel where you can find hundreds of videos all about Damp!
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDh4nXWTEAPxsG5JIX3VdIg">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDh4nXWTEAPxsG5JIX3VdIg</a> - if you also want access to the paid membership content, click the Join button.
 
https://www.instagram.com/all_dry_damp/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-cooper-csrt-cssw-hncdampsam-45528649/
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@damp_sam?lang=en">https://www.tiktok.com/@damp_sam?lang=en</a>
 
The products Damp Sam recommends, because he has used them for many years, are available here: <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/dampsamhnccsrtcssw">https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/dampsamhnccsrtcssw</a>
 
CONTACT METHOD
<a href="mailto:Dampsam@alldrydampproofing.com">Dampsam@alldrydampproofing.com </a><a href="https://www.facebook.com/AllDryDP/">https://www.facebook.com/AllDryDP/</a>
<a href="mailto:Simon@thedampshow.co.uk">Simon@thedampshow.co.uk</a>
<a href="mailto:Simon@alldrydampproofing.com">Simon@alldrydampproofing.com</a>

Rising Damp the Myth

Today’s episode of The Damp Show is all about surveyors, surveys and reports, which Sam gets sent a lot of. He shares some of his insights, explaining what you need to be looking out for. Including what should be in the report, how to work out if someone is qualified and more.

Get Your FREE E-Book PLUS More Great Content, Courses and Advice @ www.dampsam.com

KEY TAKEAWAYS
A lot of surveys are missing information that should legally be included.
It is not uncommon for companies to put clauses in their quotes. For example, that their work is not guaranteed if a PIV unit has not been fitted.
Different types of dampness have different patterns. Sam is seeing reports which say there is rising damp when the meter readings do not indicate this.
Misdiagnosis is becoming an increasing problem within the industry.
Independent surveyors should not be putting prices in their reports. They do not do remedial work themselves, so are very out of touch when it comes to costs.
If you think a report may be wrong based on something you have learned from Sam, send him a copy.

BEST MOMENTS 

“The problem is this, why our industry has got a bad reputation, and it's misdiagnosis.”

“They have not actually gone and …. got qualifications.”

“I reckon we could save him a lot of money because there's a lot of work here that don't need doing.”



Do you want to find out why your property is damp, so you can start the process of solving the issue the right way? – Go to Why Do I Have Damp in My Property Damp Sam Facebook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/84911630448/ and upload your photos.


ABOUT THE HOST
Simon Cooper AKA Damp Sam is a time-served plasterer since 1983 and has a HNC in building management. He is the director of 3 Ltd companies and a PCA-qualified Damp and structural waterproofing surveyor. He also owns a portfolio of properties that he renovated over the years. 

Check my YouTube Channel where you can find hundreds of videos all about Damp!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDh4nXWTEAPxsG5JIX3VdIg - if you also want access to the paid membership content, click the Join button.

https://www.instagram.com/all_dry_damp/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-cooper-csrt-cssw-hncdampsam-45528649/

https://www.tiktok.com/@damp_sam?lang=en

The products Damp Sam recommends, because he has used them for many years, are available here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/dampsamhnccsrtcssw

CONTACT METHOD

Dampsam@alldrydampproofing.com
https://www.facebook.com/AllDryDP/

Simon@thedampshow.co.uk

Simon@alldrydampproofing.com

Today’s episode of The Damp Show is all about surveyors, surveys and reports, which Sam gets sent a lot of. He shares some of his insights, explaining what you need to be looking out for. Including what should be in the report, how to work out if someone is qualified and more.
<a href="http://dampsam.com/">Get Your FREE E-Book PLUS More Great Content, Courses and Advice @ www.dampsam.com</a>
KEY TAKEAWAYS
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">A lot of surveys are missing information that should legally be included.</li>
<li aria-level="1">It is not uncommon for companies to put clauses in their quotes. For example, that their work is not guaranteed if a PIV unit has not been fitted.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Different types of dampness have different patterns. Sam is seeing reports which say there is rising damp when the meter readings do not indicate this.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Misdiagnosis is becoming an increasing problem within the industry.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Independent surveyors should not be putting prices in their reports. They do not do remedial work themselves, so are very out of touch when it comes to costs.</li>
<li aria-level="1">If you think a report may be wrong based on something you have learned from Sam, send him a copy.</li>
</ul>
BEST MOMENTS 
“The problem is this, why our industry has got a bad reputation, and it's misdiagnosis.”
“They have not actually gone and …. got qualifications.”
“I reckon we could save him a lot of money because there's a lot of work here that don't need doing.”
 
Do you want to find out why your property is damp, so you can start the process of solving the issue the right way? – Go to Why Do I Have Damp in My Property Damp Sam Facebook Group - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/84911630448/">https://www.facebook.com/groups/84911630448/</a> and upload your photos.
 ABOUT THE HOST Simon Cooper AKA Damp Sam is a time-served plasterer since 1983 and has a HNC in building management. He is the director of 3 Ltd companies and a PCA-qualified Damp and structural waterproofing surveyor. He also owns a portfolio of properties that he renovated over the years. 
Check my YouTube Channel where you can find hundreds of videos all about Damp!
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDh4nXWTEAPxsG5JIX3VdIg">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDh4nXWTEAPxsG5JIX3VdIg</a> - if you also want access to the paid membership content, click the Join button.
https://www.instagram.com/all_dry_damp/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-cooper-csrt-cssw-hncdampsam-45528649/
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@damp_sam?lang=en">https://www.tiktok.com/@damp_sam?lang=en</a>
The products Damp Sam recommends, because he has used them for many years, are available here: <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/dampsamhnccsrtcssw">https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/dampsamhnccsrtcssw</a>
CONTACT METHOD
<a href="mailto:Dampsam@alldrydampproofing.com">Dampsam@alldrydampproofing.com </a><a href="https://www.facebook.com/AllDryDP/">https://www.facebook.com/AllDryDP/</a>
<a href="mailto:Simon@thedampshow.co.uk">Simon@thedampshow.co.uk</a>
<a href="mailto:Simon@alldrydampproofing.com">Simon@alldrydampproofing.com</a>

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