Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to thirty three, Episode one of Dirt Atli's Like Guys Stay production of I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Monday, April eighteen two, which of course means it is National Amateur Radio Day NORD for those who NORD, National Animal Crackers Day, knacked nacked, you know, just like I like to just give it a forward. How do you feel about animal crackers? Oh? I loved him as a kid, but I was I would think I was like an animal cracker snob if it didn't come in the fucking box that had like the menagerie, like the traveling Circus cage printed on. Yeah, I was like, this is both of these are not animal crackers, even though they were like the simplest shit. So when you bring that up, I do have a very specific like sense memory, like scoffing at the thing that didn't have the animal print on the last What is the flavor? Is it just vanilla? Feel like? Because my kids have gone through animal cracker phases. We bought a like a barrel of them essentially, and they were suspiciously held up extremely well for like the year and a half that it took us to get through those. I mean yeah, I mean they're they've been around since who knows how long. I feel like it's that old nineteenth century snack everybody loved. But yeah, I feel like it's all vaguely vanilla. Do they bite the limbs off? They don't. They just think I'm cruel. Do you tear the that fucker limb from limb? Okay, and that's how you eat and then the head goes lest. I feel like I'm looking at some modern day ones. They're they're not necessarily like, they don't bake them with individual legs on some of them. So the kids are losing out these days. Yeah, No, it's a it's a more of a precision operation these days. So the question that I had just tying into Friday's episode is whether there's a him and component to the animal crackers, because I was I was picking that up when I was eating through the barrelful. My kids have like two animal crackers. I like my weight and animal crackers over the course of the year. But I was picking up a lemon and that There does seem to be some speculation at least online people saying agreed on lemon flavoring in conjunction with vanilla as a big part of what makes that animal cracker flavor. So yeah, that's that. May there may be there's like a tartness, like a just a whisper of some tartness that brings balance to the menagerie. Anyways, I'm a lemony snicket either their lemony. I like lemon flavor. Nick it out here so lemony, okay, But anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien a KB. It's gonna take five, a whole lot of yellow. Five is gonna take some yellow as five to do it, to do it, to do it, to do it, to do it, to do it right. The do in there spelled dw I got my mind wet off? Do I got my mind wet off, dude. That is just a you know, courtesy of James Ray song I didn't realize it was originally by James Ray, later covered by the late great George Harrison, and of course a reference to my first day on the job when I slammed a can of do and super producer on a was like, oh, I didn't know you like to get wet and I was like, well, what's wet? She was like butt naked, Baha blasted code red, major melon mountain dew. Anyways, Helmsley, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host Mr Miles Grab Babies like guict in the morning host Sorry Jackoby A. Miles faced the world of news and hot takes with their doing cold boot Coffee in the afternoon What's Trending and the guest host never ending. They may be second rate podcast, but at least they post them offense. Do do do do? Anyway? Shout out to see w g v oh collab with the Fighter of the Night out on Discord for that wonderful Tom's Diner inspired a k appropriate cover of that song You sound that remix. It's let's bring our guests because we got to talk about all this with them. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very talented writer, podcast host, TV writer, producer, comedian essay Is. She co created, produced, co host the brilliant podcast Private Parts on Known. Her writing has been published in a few small outlets, such as The Washington Post, Tom's Bustle, Hello Giggles. She's written for Amazon's Emmy winning animated series Danger and Eggs. Please welcome the hilarious and talented Courtney Costa. Okay, I did not prepare a song that is fun. Have you heard that TikTok cover of Tom's Dinner where the dude comes in and makes it all about himself? Oh my, hold on, I'm gonna like, I feel like any millennial if they haven't heard it, has to hear it just to see how far we've come astray. I do feel like our two choices of a KS could have been on the radio, like back to back and in the late eighties. I was surprised you guys don't have to pay licensing fees. Yeah, oh yeah, it's well, it's so a tonal that no like modern algorithmic copyright sweeping software could ever pick it up. Can't tell our intention just based on we end up getting money in They're like, actually, it sounds like Susanne Vega was covering you. But here this is this this band and in May Canter right and Giant Rooks version of this. We can cut this out justin just so she can hear it. Oh my goodness, what do you think of that um material? Yeah? Yeah, that's I think that's all we can say is wow, listened to it. I think we're cutting out the actual song. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like most people know just look in case people act because we actually played it. But yes, that guy's that guy's voice. You know he's bellowing when he comes in with that mine. I don't know something to think about that. Yeah, yeah, Well, Courtney, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. We're gonna just check in with the record of police in in the United States around the country. How are they doing? What are they up to? Not good? Not good? Turns out, we're gonna talk about NASA. So there was a story that was going around, I guess last week or a couple of weeks ago, saying there's a trope in sci fi where it's like, once aliens find out where we are, it's you know, it's yeah, count countdown to the opening scenes of independent stuff. So we're gonna talk about that people. A lot of people are you putting Stephen Hawking's name on the idea that like, yeah, we're fucked if if they hear from us, we're already fucked, is the yeah, And like, honestly, maybe the aliens might give us a cleaner way out right. You know they were like, yo, we could vaporize this ship in a blink of an eye and just make it real easy for you, or I mean you could watch it burned down. I don't know, you think it'll be up here. We'll talk about all of that plenty more. But first, Courtney, we do like task our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I have been googling so much shit about my thyroid it's not even funny, just NonStop hashimotos. Is this cancer? YadA yada's um? I feel like that reveals that I am a hypochondriac and turns out I do have that real illness, though what is the what's the real illness has motives? Hashimotos is like precursor I guess I don't fully understand to hyperthyroidism and has its own kind of set of symptoms and it's autoimmune, so it's like very misunderstood and it's just sending me down a total rabbit hole. But hey, if anybody in the Zeke Gang has successfully sort of naturally cured their hashi motos. I would love to hear from you. Is that what what is potentially? How do you treat it? Like? Is it so murky that there's like a bunch of conflicting ideas or research on it, or it's just kind of very it's just not researched enough. Well, there's like the endochronologists take, and then there's kind of like the natural path take, and there's not there's this like the root cause is undetermined, like they don't know exactly what it is. And also a ton of women get gaslighted while they're trying to seek treatment for this. They're like and be included. For two years they've been like, no, there's nothing wrong. I had to order my own test and be like, I think there is. One of our other guests are Norwalks, also had thyroid issues, and you know she she had said She's like it just felt like I didn't was out of it for two years before someone actually was like, hold on, let's let's figure this out, because the same thing was being said and more like, no, it just sounds like you're just tripping. Also, they just look at me and they're like, you're healthy, and I'm like, I swear to God, it's not. Can you dig a little deeper? Right? The sensation within my body is not what is showing up on whatever checklist. Here. This ship is leaking. I can feel it. So let's talk about that. Well. I hope, man, I hope you were able to get some answers and and some relief. Yeah, thank you, pretty cool man for the US Motives is a cool name. Yeah, what is something you take? Is overrated? Cotchella never been but seen enough Instagram post to know that that's all I need. Like, I'm ready for this weekend to be over. Is there? Is it just one weekend this year? They're two weekends? No, I think there are two. But yeah, I feel like this week has been intense with the posting. I don't know if you guys have seen the same thing. I saw something that said the prices took an absolute dump when they swapped Kanye out. And now I'm like, this is usually how I used to go to Coachella. Was it would like it starts on a Friday. I would basically be like, Okay, let's just drive down to India and just check Craigslist because there's gonna be some sad person on the way there. He was like, please just take this for something. But yeah, and you can watch it on YouTube. Now, why this Kanye, What's what's going on? Not much, don't worry, is just some stuff went down here. He's just generally not well, it's the gist of that one. But yeah, because now it's the weekend and Swedish house Mafia because there's no Travis Scott and there's no Kanye m So yeah, but you can still appropriate a headdress and wear that, which I feel like it's kind of the main point of the festival. Yeah. Dana Donnelly, who was on the week before, she tweeted something She's like, why don't need to go to coach hello, when I can just do shrooms at urban outfitures. Somebody was like, stopped, my wife has a hat that I think is cool. And somebody in like sweats and sunglasses but like nice sweats and sunglasses stopped her on the street and was like, oh yeah, you you're ready for a coach hella. Huh. She was like, all right, I guess I have to throw this fucking hat out. She stabbed the person to death with the hat. Wait what is it? Because it let me guess it's like a wide it's like a brimmed hat yet but it's yeah whatever, I know the vibes. I don't think that's necessary. That feels like a real shady swing to just be like, oh somebody. I think they were hitting owners so like it wasn't. I don't think they were like somebody looks ready for coach right there, right now. She came back like upset. It was like they think they think this hat is from Coachella. They think it's a coach. Those are like chugue millennial problems, I think with the real problem would be if she was like happy, she was like yeah, that's right right, I'm ready. Oh yeah, She's like I'm gonna go pick some daisies to make a sick flower. Harry Styles is there. I would be remiss if I didn't mention that Harry Styles was one of the headliners. I've only been once. It was the year that Outcasts was like having their first show back together. I went the first weekend because I was like, I want to be there for the first outcome. I think it was earlier and I don't know. It seems like a long time ago. Maybe it was. I was there, Jack, but they hadn't figured out the sound equipment yet. Coach HELLI fuck them basically, and it sounded really bad and that was not great. The second weekend apparently it was great. But I think the artists have to pay for like their own whole sound set up and like stage situation. I heard like it can almost bankrupt you. I think if it's more than the one that they're providing, like then it's like, okay, well then bring in your own infrastructure. They're like, isn't that part of well we're paying? So yeah. Just check it out on YouTube, folks. If you missed it this weekend, it'll be on next weekend, and you know, get your feeling of Doja Cat and the Gang. Ja Cat and the Gang my favorite, the right behind Garfield and Heathcliff and the Gang. Do Jaquet and the Gang one of my favorite cartoons from my childhood. What is something you think is underrated? Cordney Cora? Sorry not sorry, but I love, Yes, I love I check it almost every day. They send me emails and I'm like, this is irresistible. It's just people asking like wild hypothetical ship. There's no illusion of fact checking, right, Oh totally yeah, Like am I gregnant? Is like, you know all off Cora type stuff? What's like the what's the wildest ships you've seen on Cora that you're like, this is why I'll come back for this. Oh I did screamshot something for you guys. You know, it'll just be like people being like do I have cancer? And um. But a little known fact about Abraham Lincoln. Not only was Abraham Lincoln the tallest president at six four, but he was the president with the largest hands. And then there's legit a picture of this. No, I like that kind of stuff. I'm sorry, Wait where did they have? Was he doing like a Javan curse at the draft? Like holding a ruler in between his pinkie? And I think somebody I just took up snapped a picture while they were catching and catching the hands they I don't know who they got him because this is a laying them out. That's a mold. Okay, it's a mold. But and I don't know if those are real hands. That's the whole thing. Who cares? There used to be some like real morbid ship where they would and I think they did with him like tour with the body of a dead famous person. Oh god, yeah, Oh so that was like the Tupac Coachella set before it was the Tupac Coachelli. Yeah, exactly. Wow. Just going off the top three here, what's what's the top three? Because I've never been to Cora, like as a destination site. It's always been accidental, search engine optimized, like what if I have a question, then Cora pops up? But top three? What do shooting ranges do with all the brass and the bullets left behind by patrons? That was that is from somebody answering I own an indoor range shoot, so like that's somebody being like, here's an interesting question about me. Let me talk to a little bit. Kenna d n a test created diet plan for you. So that's interesting to find out because I know that's a claim been made. And then the big one. How cold was the water that Leo DiCaprio, nicknamed Asais, was in during the filming of his final scene in Titanic. I'm in a Titanic phase where I'm reading up on the disaster and the film. The real water the night the Titanic sunk was twenty eight degrees and then they're like, was Leo really about it? Was? It was right? Right? Right? No, it wasn't. It was not hot. No, they shot that in Mexico. Yeah, but the water was fucking fifty degrees they were when they shot it. Yeah, when they shot it, they wore wet suits under their costumes to keep them wor good for him. That's this is a core of fact. This is a core e fact. Yeah. So yeah, no, this is a great top top three. I found something that would occupy me and that I'll probably bring up in a conversation in the next Wait, what do they what do they do with all the spent casings at a shooting range. I don't know. It looks like they like get ground up. Let me see, backstop is shredded rubber over steel. The debris other than letter rubber is disposed of as hazardous material. Here's a picture of one of our early mining efforts showing about ten tons of lead. So I guess they're like digging the bullets out of the like, right. But but the casings where the person is firing the gun that that are ejected after shooting occasionally steal the brass and the collection bucket left behind by other shooters. Oh, I thought they had like a second life, Like you know those brass brats that keep the scripts together in Hollywood. That's where those shell casings going. Yeah, that would be interesting that someone's like, I'm five eight pounds and eight six eight hundred calories daily for a few months. Now, what happens if I continue doing this? No, so it gets weird on there, it gets super weird. Yeah, it's a whole spectrum. Man, It's the Internet. You can find right after a nice bright spot can be darkness the way it is. I like the brand loyalty. I like that you get like the emails from the site and you're like you have a automated email relationship that when you see the email, you're like as opposed to like these motherfucker's right, You're like, yeah, it's always something interesting. And I don't know how I wound up on the list, Like I think I just clicked on too many things on Cora and they were like, we're going to start sending her the emails. They were like, Yo, Courtney is no love. That's that's cool though, all right, should we take a break. Let's take a break and we'll be right back to talk about why the police are the fucking worst. And we're back. And the second we cut to break, Miles was like, I'm looking at this Coachell lineup, and I think I went back to Miles who used to just pull up trying to get a cheap ticket. And if if I get for a discount, if I could see some of these artists, I'm not mad. Actually, like I want to see, Like, I want to see Denzel Curry, right, Denzel Curry's there. I want to see bad, bad, not good. I want to see fucking Flume. Fuck it if Fat Boys slam Hop Molly in the Saharitan, when when the drop hits on Flume, dude, bro, if he plays the Tennis court Lord remix, it's over City Girl Core Day. I'm like, the thing is, I'm not gonna pay full price for this. But if in my mind the situation is I see a thing on Craig's like, please help me, I'll give you tickets. I feel like they should sponsor you guys as influencers. Yeah, people who like yeah, who talk ship up until the last second. Yeah, I guess it's pretty cool. I can hear all funked up. Our marketing policy is all about nagging. We like to talk shit about your product and then come on, O Jamie x X is there. Yeah, there's some good millennious Japanese breakfast. Okay. I'm like, okay, you know, Joji, my little half Japanese king, can't gizzard in the Lizard Wizard shout out Australian psych rock. Okay, anyway, too late, don't have time. Yeah, I mean next weekend. You know, maybe I can say goods this weekend on streaming and then yeah, we'll see come back if it. If it's bad and tickets are depressed, I may fuck it. I may just for the good of the show take my zoom recorder to Coachella and just bring back some kind of audio package of me at Coachella. That would be amazing. It's confused as ship. The people demand it. Yeah, alright, weft the crop fund it. We'll see. I got a few days to figure it out, all right. So we just wanted to check in on a couple of stories around the police. Obviously, there is another horrifying instance of police murdering an unarmed black man. Patrick Loyola and Graham Rapids at this time on camera, so there might actually be some justice. But in case, you saw the press conference with the mayor giving the concerned body language and the looking away and like, you know, just the general response to the ship seems to be one bad apple, just a tragic, one off situation. Graham Rabids police have been pulling guns on innocent people for the past five years, like to the point that there have been like many complaints in officers searching for a middle aged woman one first having and said handcuffed and a eleven year old girl at gunpoint while she was just leaving a house. Those officers were not disciplined. Months before that, Graham Rapids officers held five innocent teenagers at gunpoint, local outlets reported, and officer was suspended for two days after shooting a protester in the face with a gas canister. So the first of all, it probably doesn't need to be said the eleven year old child who was automatically treated like a suspect was a person of color. The shooting of the protester in the face, I want to come back to in a second, but yeah, it's yeah, that's that's that's the latest hook into being like, oh, the police are murderous, you know, fucking monsters, and the this death especially is disturbing in the manner which had happened. It's even this just description spooks me because this officer was on top of him and then shot him in the head and with the victim face down. Yeah yeah, and but yet or we're still like dragging our feet to just be like, oh god, let's let's investigate what happened. What was the cops justification. I mean, he pulled him over because of registration being out of date. How does it go from that to shooting someone in the back of the head because he was trying to arrest him, I guess, and he was resisting and when he I believe he also was like on top of this guy who was face down and he was struggling to like he was like trying to just get out of this position. That's maybe probably having trouble breathing or something. The gun comes out and then this guy's just shot in his head. Um, and this is you know, it's like wild too, because there were so many other stories in the last week that deserved everyone's attention, and then it's like half of it was like still Will Smith and Chris Rock talk, yeah and whatever. But yeah, so that's that get that takes us to this moment today. Right, So then we have just a their aspect of the police that I think is undercovered, and that is just how fucking bad they are at their jobs, like that, what they're funded beyond anything that has happened in the history of human civilization when it comes to a police force. And let's just run through the events of the subway shooter arrest. I think this tweet sums it up if I understand correctly. The subway shooter dropped his weapon, car, keys, and a credit card at the scene of the crime, called in his location to an m YPD tipline, chilled at a McDonald's until he got tired of waiting for them to show up, and was apprehended by a guy named Zach That that seems to be how it went down. There's you know, details of that that are backed up by the New York Times. And yeah, I mean Alec Karri Kitzanis had a good threat on this where yeah, I'll just read directly from it, but he was, like, you know, much of the debate about cops rightly focuses on their millions of physical and sexual assaults, thousands of murders, rampant over time, sickly fraud, bribery, perjury, high rates of domestic abuse, links to WHIDSU premises, and filtration of left wing movements, etcetera. But they're also historically incompetent. That that's an important detail. Even with greater and greater budgets and technology, unaccountable US police bureaucracies are getting worse and worse at what they say is their core function. And there's this graph about like homicide clearance rates from and it's just down, down, down, down down. They're just getting worse and worse as it becomes clear and clear to them, like no, you're the thing that you're actually paid for is to just enforce you know, property crimes and basically do the bidding of the ownership class and like clear clearing homicide that happens between you know, people who are poor, you know, they they that's not what they're there for, basically, No, No, that's that's something called justice. We're sorry, we're we're security cards for private property that like that graph of the comic side clearance rates. Now, I'm sure, right, in the sixties, there was probably like just like we've seen now, there's cops just like I don't know, fuck it, just say that fucking guy did it, so we can close the case. But there's something odd though. Two is I believe between ninet technology also got better too, presumably to make it easier for people to solve crimes like properly. Yet it's still going down and whether that's a function of the volume of chrome whatever, but I don't think that's really the case, because what we're looking at is we have near historic lows for for most crime. But even despite that, you know, eleven basically eleven billion dollar budgets and the n Y p D and the l A p D respectively, like they're each hauling in that kind of money, and we still get like this kind of argument from these people that's like, well, they're defunding the police, yeah, are they're not. As a woman, the thing that I love to see is that most of the major US police departments made explicit choices not to test a hundred thousand rape kits so that hundreds of thousands of rape kits so that they could do homeless arrests and drug possession, drug possession. Yeah, that's from that Alex karrit Santa's thread, and yeah it's I mean I think that ties directly back into that homicide rate and the you know what what Miles was talking about with like the we have the we have the technology now to like use DNA evidence to stop sexual assault and or at least like stop more of it than has historically ever been possible. Instead of doing that, it's drug possession and homeless arrests the Anti Terrorism Task Force for them YPD. While the shooter was trying to turn himself in by calling the tip line that they had set up, the NYPD Terrorism Task Force was rating a homeless encampment and arresting unhoused people. I think what's even more damning, right, or not even more damning, But what adds to it is that along with the technology that's gone up, it got it's so good that regular citizens can have an idea of who a suspect is and then just do the work for the police for them, Like you're saying, they're so busy doing this other ship of just brutalizing the unhoused. Meanwhile, a guy who is doing like a consultation for security camera installation. Hey that hey, yo, that's the guy. You know, that's the guy. And he was telling people you'll get the funk away. And it's wild to see that press conference where this regular guy had intervened to save or not save people, but I apprehend him. He was warning other people stay clear of this guy. This he's gonna do something bad. This is the person from the subway fucking tries top him, flags down a cop and does the work for it because he was just a generally aware of person in New York and that that was the law enforcement that day. That the people who needed medical care in the fucking subway stations were mostly being tended to buy transit workers and other So there there was an NYPD officer during the shooting who told another bystanderd a call nine one one, this is happening right after they made a push to like put more police in the subway system and like just generally, like broadly the way the story has gone like there after, and you know, the protests following the George Floyd video, the there was a conversation about police abolition and that got co opted by like people like Mattie Glaciers. Basically a lot of the New York Times editorial staff Washington Post editorial staff who came through and basically said, like, more police equals lower crime. This is a fact. So like, I, as much as your ideas are like nice sounding, we're over here with the adults, and we're telling you that more police equals lower crime. And so show me some studies. Can you show me the studies that and it's it's there. There are studies that say that they're usually provided by the police and like funded by the police, and there are more studies, and in fact, the academic consensus is the opposite, that like investing in police creates a short term like either h flatline or slight drop in crime, but then eventually, over time it goes up because it is fucking poisonous for a community to have the authority figures walking around with guns threatening everyone. That's poisonous, and then separating families as like one of their primary recourses. And also like ignoring the root causes of crime. That's like the I think the most fucked up part of when you have a you know, supposed paper of record trying to examine something as complex as crime and only say, well, according to my friend the fucking cops. This is what's going on the end. Not let's look at crime. Crime. Uh, you know, people are talking about crime. Let's look at the statistics. Here are the statistics on crime. Here what the police is saying causing crime? Here, what's sociologists, psychologist, psychiatrists, people who understand human nature. What they attribute to factors that contribute to somebody going extra legal outside the bounds of the law. Here's what other countries. Here's what statistics from other countries where they have gone from. Not what we have because again or what we have is unprecedented in the history of human civilization. But from having a front line of armed police force to disarming the police and seeing crime go away down and everything like respond very positively. Like a couple of that with fucking studies on U b I or people getting supplemental incomes and the stress that alleviates for them psychologically, the things that they're able to do, the things they don't have to do anymore because they were able to find some source of money to be able to just provide the minimums of food and then talk to me about human behavior because they're just that's like, I mean, God, I wish more like more people were fucking outraged to be like the fucking even the people who want to say the new new places like the New York Times or Washington Post, they're like fucking Fox News. What Fox News is for conservatives, that's what they do for the concept of law enforcement. They're never going to tell you something real about what's happening there, because the whole point of that fucking place is to maintain this narrative of police are being good and it's just a couple of bad apples, rather than zooming the funk out and being like, this is a bad fucking treat. Cut, cut it the funk down, and let's find some other solutions. Because there's plenty of fucking research that says ship that works in the City of New York is spending three billion dollars short of what most NGO say it would take to stop global hunger for a year, right the Like, that's what we're looking at in terms of the kind of what the effects that money has, rather than like fucking more a p c S for the fucking cops, Like what did you guys ever hear about that? I think it was freaking omics. But basically like I think it was related to abortion and like when women could have abortions, and like, I don't know after Roe v. Wade, like the murder rate dropped, it was geificantly. I think I think that's pretty controversial, like the there the science of it, the conclusion. Yeah, their conclusions on that are a little controversial in terms of because yeah, I know that that fucking blew my mind when I read it too. But I don't know exactly what the controversy is because I think like partially people are like it kind of implies eugenics type thing, and also people are like that that was also a time when crime across the board was like going way down. Okay, fair enough, but as you know, someone who's you know, like an unwanted child is an enormous amount of stress. And I think when we're talking about like root causes and not having enough money and poverty and all those things contributing, it's like yeah, for sure, yeah, yeah. And you look at even just now, because Democrats and Congress couldn't even get their ship together to extend the child tax credit, there's are now millions of children are now with the snap of a finger or with the lack of fucking energy or vigor from from politicians. Are millions of kids are now in poverty again because that little bit of money is all it takes to like when someone's on a knife edge to either be in poverty or just out of it being able to eke out somewhat normal life. But I I also just can't believe the lack of coverage for the way that the police have responded to the idea of defunding the police, which again means like funding the police lesson investing, you know, community solutions. That the police have openly responded to our outrage over their murdering of innocent people by being more brutal, failing to respond when crimes are in progress, Like that's something that I know was happening, because I like no people to whom that has happened, Like over the course of the like two years now, that that continues to be a refrain for the police, like yes, sorry, we were defunded, and when actually actuality, They've continued to be funded at levels like unprecedented in the history of human civilization. There's been no restraint added to their tactics. They've continued to murder unarmed men and women of color with impunity, and their attitude seems to be that they're at war with the people who they're policing now more than ever because the people who they're policing dared criticize them, Like, how is that not a story that is constantly being covered, like it's an unbelievable fucking threat to Yeah, it's while when you have throughout all this, right, we also have stories like man, flight attendants are dealing with the rowdiest motherfucker's on planes than ever before, and what did they do? Some airlines said, Okay, this is the situation. We have people who have to deal with the public. The flight attendants have to deal with the passengers. We found out from the from the flight attendants who have to deal with this that their lives are difficult and more chaotic because they're dealing with rowdy people. How do we turn down the rowdiness from the passengers? The fucking airlines had the wherewithal to say, maybe we serve less alcohol because that seems to be getting people turned up. There seems to be some stimulant. There seems to be some additive factor to the equation that is increasing the chaos that our flight attendants are experiencing when they take to the skies. If I feel like you could, you could extend that to how police work, right, they say, damn, people are fucking turned up out there is the is the solution? More flight attendants? No, they said, less harm the flight attendant with bigger RoboCop flight attendant. Right, And in this version, right, someone would say, what's making people act this way? It's they experienced severe lack Yeah, so because of that, that's that's putting people into mental states or or situations of having to survive what You're seeing them do things that you call illegal. So maybe to do that, you turn down the fucking heat that even gets somebody to the point where they considered a steal or whatever. Like we're talking like like the kinds of low level crime that the New York Times and ship want to act like. That's why the fucking whole world is going down? But why not address that because that seems to be the key here. But again, like any disingenuous attempt at solving a problem, it's just gonna say, well, let's just do the thing that benefits us the most. Yeah, we need to be paid more. Actually, that's the problem. We're not paid more to fucking kill people. And if I if they gave a funk, they would actually be coming about real solutions how to address what causes crime rather than be like, we need more community based police overtime. Let's get that overtime, sweet sweet overtime. But the bystanders like coming through and helping one another, Like, well, that sounds like a weird like a weird thing to just be like, yeah, you guys are on your own type thing. This At the first of all, it does appear that way even while we're funding them. YPD like to be the sixth highest funded military in the world or whatever it is. But there's also like the first of all, like anyone who wants to call it a good cop, that's like, that's great. Like if there's a if there's a good a good person who is like smart and resourceful and working as a police officer, I want them doing a different job like that is helping the community, like or just as an unarmed like person who is trying to help people out, like like I'm sure they would be good at fucking helping solve things if they If there is such a good thing, are we supposed to get more unarmed like peacekeepers. Yeah, I feel like there's no follow through on those stories, like you don't see that. And then but the thing is there, right, there's no follow through on the stories because it does happen and the results are yeah, sh it worked, right, Well, that's not that that that doesn't lead because it doesn't lead, right, And I think that's where like we have to I really ask ourselves, so the kinds of stories we engage with, like what's actually reflecting our reality and how much are we getting absolutely absolutely headfucked by disingenuous actors who are a inco hoots with the people who like cover up the physical manifestations of the failures of capitalism the police, okay, and they go to their friends who have the fucking ears and eyes of most people in the country that the media, and just keep reinforcing this thing, which is it's not inequality, it's not the fucking police, it's not this, it's not the real fucking thing, and just keep us in this fun house where we look at these fucked up versions of our realities. But so many people are unable to arrive at the conclusion because they're just served this distorted ship over and over, and I get a repetition becomes reality. There's so many people who think everything is so fucked up everywhere, and it's like on an emotional level, yeah, and I'm not gonna argue with that. There's a lot of suffering out there. But like with when these very opportunistic stories come out which are trying to like keep progress from occurring or to take back the gains of like progressive like lawmakers who are trying to say, like we're incarcerating too many people. That's just when I don't know, we're just we just get an increasingly fucked up, untenable situation. And my desires for us to really be able to more people, to be able to really look at this and kind of think of, like what where our part is in this whole equation. And we've talked before about that. Eugene Oregon. I think it was like community police force, those like basically they're two help people who are having started out with like trying to help people who are having bad drug experiences. But then it became like we're just here too. You know, if you need somebody and you don't want that somebody to come in with a gun pointed at you then like that's what we're here for. And like the profiles read of them, the stuff that they're doing is just things that one can do if they're just patient and willing to listen and like learn what is happening in the situation, which it sounds like is what is working in this subway short or thing. It's like, okay, well, I'm you know, I may have some CPR training and there's a person who's bleeding right there, so I'm going to put that training into effect, or you know, Zach coming through and just being like that's the person from all those news bulletins. I'm going to bring attention to the fact that that's who that is. Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, you look, there's there and there's so many studies like about what what armed police versus unarmed police do, like in general, not like broadly over what's better for crime, but like there's so many things about saying that these interventions you're talking about how effective they are that and also on the other side that militarized police forces do not enhance public safety or reduce crime at all. The only thing militarized police forces do is funk up their reputation in the public and that's all it is. No, they can't even point to the fact. It's like, well, yeah, when we send these people out look like fucking Seal Team six to go bust a fucking meth dealer or something that that's not that that's bringing crime down. It isn't. Yeah. There there's this other story Jam hit us with about the police real quick that I got I gotta touch on because it's right. They keep doing things where when they see themselves where somebody taking a video of them, rather than being like, well, that's their right, you know, we we work for them, instead of doing that, they start playing copyrighted music as loud as they can because somebody told them that that will get that will make it so the video can't be posted on social media. So uninherently like trying to it's like them wiping their prints like it's a it's a thing a guilty person does, like trying to like funk with the evidence of their wrongdoing, like right off the bat, which just uninherently creepy and like menacing thing to do. There's an example from a couple of weeks back where I was trying to access bodycam footage at a Beverly Hills police station and filming the encounter on Instagram, and the copy was dealing with whipped out his phone and started playing Sublime, the notorious pro police band Sublime. And then that same police department previously did something similar within My Life the Beatles song the like really heartfelt Beatles songs Hious. And then there was one that went viral last June where a cops started playing Taylor Swift, which completely backfired. The clip promptly went viral, was uploaded YouTube, where it is still available now and has been viewed millions of times. There's also like a week ago, cops pulled up to a residential street in Santa Anna at eleven o'clock at night while investigating a stolen vehicle and started absolutely blasting a playlist of Disney songs, and the officer on the scene admitted it was to create copyright infringement. When one of the people whose children he woke up was a city councilman who he recognized and was like apparently intimidated by, and so I was like, I'm sorry, okay, and the guy like made him apologize to all the families, like yeah, it was wild. When that guy came out, he's like, do you know who I am? The city council person, you know whatever, dead whatever like to do. This is gonna get copy blocked anyway, narrator. In fact, it did not get copyright blocked. So this is like the other thing that I just want to point out about. This is the competence the most powerful individual actors in our society, like individual citizens with the right to use deadly force without consequence, are being run with the integrity and tactical understanding of truth of like an elderly relative who believes like email forwards like that. Right, this whole strategy is based on nothing. It does not work, has never worked. YouTube claims you're allowed to use whatever music you want in the background of something, like if it's just incidental like this. So like guy, and here's a clip of your friend at a bar, and you're like, hey, put it on YouTube, But it's not actually like loaded into part of like the audio track. The sweepers don't pick it up in that way. And if they do, the other part is they'll just put a pre roll ad in front of it, because then they'll say, Okay, this is actually a Beastie Boys track. We'll just put an ad in front of it so then the Beastie Boys can monetize it. But you can continue, well, we'll make your police brutality video wildly available, widely available. We just need to monetize it, which is also fucking bizarre land already. But yeah, that's like assholes in the I watched the Taylor Swift video, which I hadn't seen before, but oh my god, to just like start that in the middle right like it's you know, it's like he's no, he knows what he's doing. He's kind of acknowledging it in the moment, and the person's calling him on it. It's just like, dude, what are you doing? How do you think this is going to turn out well for you? It's the same thing as like if a cop like was caught doing something and they started taking off their uniform in front of you while you have them on camera and putting on like a costume and be like, I don't know what you're talking about. You're like you are trying to You're trying to obscure the facts right now by doing this. No, I'm just playing uh sublime, man, I mean where were you at ninety two? I mean, I was beating the funk out of Rodney King. And that's the whole other stories, that's what the cops would be saying. Think about the fact that so that Taylor Swift video was from over a year ago. I think it hasn't been taken down, only became popular because of how stupid it was. And they're still using this tactic. Like think about the level of you know, investigate, investigative rigor that they're putting into this, which is like their way being like ha ha, no one can catch us. And then like think about how fucking bad they must be at their jobs. They just go around and bully poor people. That's all they fucking do. Yeah, I mean this is like the same ship, Like how long have we known that broken windows policing doesn't work? Apparently, you know, we never knew that because exactly right, it doesn't matter what the facts say, it's just about these habits that they have, and because on the other side of it, they don't actually experience any form of regulating or fallout from their actions, Like they're just in like the worst form of being like yes manned into like the worst dumb fucking way of behaving, because all they have is positive reinforcement for every dumb fucking idea they have, and you're left with, Yeah, incompetent people who rarely have to answer for their incompetence, only furthering their incompetence. And the way it's written about in The New York Times is that broken windows policing is a tactic used by the NYPD in an attempt to bring down crime of all sorts. So they take them at their word of what the intent is of this thing, and not no like follow up or second sentence fragment where they're like, but it obviously doesn't work and is effect functionally just a way for them to control poor and communities of color. Yeah, the New York Times is the fucking cops. They're really fucking bad at their jobs, Like worse than I could have possibly imagined. I mean, how do you fucking write any art? How are you going to do anything like balanced in terms of journalism and only take like like not being discerning in the kind of cherry picked evidence or studies are pointed to to like prove your point and in no way try to attempt to explain an issue like as best as your you know abilities can as a journal because you have the abilities, Like I know, I've read good articles in the New York countants like you guys can You guys are good writers, and that you have you employ a lot of really smart journalists. But I don't know what the fun is going on over there. Right, Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about why none of it matters because aliens are gonna come destroy us anyways, And we're back, and there were several headlines I guess this was last week a couple of weeks back, about how scientists are sending messages containing Earth's location to aliens, despite past warnings not to do so from Stephen Hawking. He was like, I'm out of here, but you motherfucker's need to know, Like I'm leaving you with this instruction, don't do this. I don't know if those were as exact words. This is another thing, by the way, that is consert hack joke here. This this is another thing that is jm our. Our writer put was like, is this a viral marketing campaign for an upcoming out freeboot? Yo? I think like this is again a plot point from the three body Problem, which, like I keep talking about it, it's this trilogy of Chinese sci fi novels, and like the main conceit, it has a Netflix series coming from Benny Off and Weiss, the guys who did a decent job with Game of Thrones and then they really fucked it up at the end. But it's a it's a really fun trilogy. But the central conceit is that the universe is a dark forest and full of like these ancient or full of these aliens of realizations that are hiding from one another, and the second you reveal where you are, you're gonna get got. I'm like, so you just have to shut the funk up and hide out, and one alien civilization like in that trilogy figures out where we are, and like that's basically the plot. But so I I understand the concern, right his Stephen Hawkings, and and like Stephen Hawkings, who like this isn't his area of expertise necessarily, but you know, he was like based on humans, like any any other advanced civilization. If we take our you know, way of being as a as a given or an indication of how other civilizations would be, where we'd be fucked, like they would come and destroy us and just like you know, drink up all our resources, like straight up. And that's true, but the panic around it too, like the headlines are so ridiculous, Like the newsweek one, scientists make message to send Earth's location to aliens, ignoring Stephen Hawkings warning. I remember seeing the headline. I was like, oh ship, and I just kept scrolling because I was like, I don't know, whatever funk it? And then another one from Daily Mail, scientists will send a radio message into space revealing Earth's exact location to all caps aliens, despite Stephen Hawkings warning they may want to destroy us. The Daily Mail is like the u k Is and most Stage six, Yeah exactly. Um. I just have to say I have recently done some ayahuasca ceremonies and I feel like the Earth, not the Earth, the universe has more of a benevolent force than we give a credit for. That sans sans Aahuasca agree based on the fact that they seem to be here already, like we have so much fucking you know, eyewitness now video evidence that there is something here that can do things that defy the laws of physics. As far as we know, and you know, any anything that is that much more advanced than us, like could have killed us all by now like easily. They have not. And I also think this is why the military doesn't want us to know, because the military wants us to think that everyone is like the military, including like the advanced to alien civilizations, that it's that Stephen Hawking's right, and that everything thinks on this plane of like go, conquer, destroy, repeat. You think the government knows about the aliens? Yeah, I think that, well, I think they know something. I think, you know, we're we're finding out that they have all those evidence and it's a mystery they've been trying to solve. I don't know if they know more than they're letting on. They seem their pub extance which doesn't really kind of cohere with their overall like the images that they try to project, but their public stance has been like, yeah, we've fucking have no idea, you guys, it's so weird, Like look at the ship that we have on tape. Any ideas? Yeah, yeah, like literally, do what do you guys think? Which seems very very strange. I could see that being part of a plan to like get funding for like more and more advanced weapons, but it doesn't like it really seems like they have tried to keep it quiet for a long time. They've like known there's there was there have been like alien encounters with people, and they will threaten to like ruin the life of a scientist who witnessed this if they say anything. And I think the reason that they're so secretive about it is because they don't want people being like, wait, so, like the whole military thing and like the killer be killed thing seems seems like that might be like the thing of the past and like we're the more we advance, the less we need assholes like you and so like, because a lot of the alien sightings tend to happen around our military, which again, if they if they wanted to funk up our military, they could have done it by now what, But they are fucking with the nukes, right, did I read that correctly? They have like there's been a lot of activity around nuclear silos, like nuclear weapons plants, and I think my my thesis is like they just want to make sure that we're not going to do anything stupid basically because that otherwise like again, like I don't if they're able to do like faster than light speed travel to Earth. Like they they're not gonna be like, whoa look at these souls. Wow, I think they're they're being like, Okay, these motherfuckers don't know what they're doing, but they figured that ship out. Okay, man, here, you got the remote in case they try to launch. You gotta keep these guys alive. It's like the best reality TV show ever. That's what I've been saying. We're there, sloppy neighbors. They're like, Bro, they're fucking up over there. You should go check this ship out right now. It's a mess. Yeah, they're rooting for us like that I root for like a young up and coming NBA player. I'm like, they got a shot. They got a shot, like they they make a lot of mistakes, but they got a shot, like they just But the end game is for them to pit us against another plant, like another planet eventually. All right, bro, who you got. I'm like, I'm taking my Earthlings against your Martials and we've been waiting too long. Let's put them in a box. Let's see where this ship goes. And we're like, what happened? Yo? I thought it was about peace they're like, no, you are playthings. Apparently, this debate of like we can't let them know like where has been on on for a long time. There. This is a new version of the r A Sebo message, which was sent into space in nine four from the Air Cebo Observatory in Puerto Rico, which, if you're not familiar with that, that is the giant dish seen in Golden NYE. So you've probably played a video game on that if you're old, like or if you remember the movie Golden Yeah, I mean there you go, but not in shambles. Yeah, now it's falling apart, which also looks really cool. But people, you know, they sent a message out into space, people were like, what the fuck you're gonna kill us. At the time, they were worried that any creatures out there might be malevolent or hungry, Like they're like, they're just like bears out in the universe, hungry, Like if they can get here, you think their thing is like, oh man, I just need I'm gonna eat there, eat them the man I just pulled up in a hydrogen ion fucking propulsion machine, goldfish. I love how we sent them like the most it's like looks like hieroglyphics or whatever. The thing that we sent them. They're like, oh no, these guys need help. The message was a representation of the fundamental chemicals of life, the formula for d n A. They were like, here's what we've got so far in the seventies. You know, maybe this is useful. And then yeah, like you're saying a diagram that looks like hieroglyphics rendered through a Atari Yeah, it's wild. I like it. Yeah, I mean, sure, come on, aliens, we could use something new, you know. Oh yeah, it's getting dry down here. It's just such an embarrassing representation for us, the message that we said. It's like so primitive, right, They're like, look at these eight bit other fucker's this is the message they're sending. But I guess, you know, we can send something with better clarity. Yeah, I don't. I don't know how they landed on this. I this looks like a scene from an Atari game that like it. It isn't even at the point yet where like you can even tell what they're trying to depict. Like I think there's a lake and maybe a diving board, and then that's the double helix of DNA. What yeah, dude, I mean. And then above that M with the skateboard on top of it at the bottom that the things above between the human and the the skateboard M or bow and arrow. The bow that looks like it's on top of the M at the bottom, that's the solar system. Also, the human just looks the human looks like ship ship like with the pixels don't even connect. Yeah, I would have no idea. The people got tiny heads block you to or so's two little dots that make up one arm and then a bumpy left arm and then block feet. It looks like I'm ready like people. People can go look up the r C boat message. I just want to let the aliens know, if you're listening, we look much better than that dusty ass eight bit rendition of our planet. And okay, so come on down, help us fight fascism and clean up the environment, and you know, I'll praise to the aliens. You know, just hit hit me up. I'm not gonna say ship. I'm not like, I'm just curious. I'm good for it. I can keep a secret. Nobody's gonna listen to me our podcast the second rate. I just want to know what is your timeline? Like, what what are you waiting for? Like? Are you you're just like good better? Jack's like, I love this ship. Just tell me the plot man, Just tell me just what because I can consult. Maybe because I'm very like dumb in a way that is like helpful. I think, like that's that's kind of useful. You let me get in that writer's room. Man's let's just sucking you know, let's just outline some different plot lines. I mean, what's like the plan? Right, You're like it's clear what the A story find is? Okay, what's the B story? That's the beaten plot ship? Well, anyways, hit me up, Courtney. Problem. Sorry, I know that he made me sound so so dumb. I loved it. I see all the three body plan what no were good? Yeah? Courtney as always such a pleasure having you on dailies. Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? I am at Courtney kosak Ko c a k on all the socials. Uh, y'all. Check out my podcast Private Parts Unknown Yeah co Ho with Sophia Alexandra heard on here before and we talk about fun sex stuff. So what's the most recent sex stuff? I know. I mean, but you guys talk about everything. I know. Have a couple of weeks ago, you're talking to some people in Ukraine. We did a really great episode The sex Lives of African Women by this chick that wrote a book all about based on different interviews she did with people in Africa and the diaspora. That was really cool. We have an episode about PMDD coming up, which is great if you have period problems. We cover all kinds of ship over there. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying. Oh yeah, so this is David Gross. He's at David Gross TV. And I just laughed really hard when I saw this tweet. Quote look at that person who has been awful to me personally on that giant billboard unquote and it's it signed like everyone in l A. Eventually that I thought was so real. Yeah, that is That is a very l A moment. Billboards still a primary form of communication out here. Harassment and and harassment. Miles Where can people find you? What is a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also the other podcast, Matt boost these Jack Got Mad boost thes NBA podcast had Roy Wood Jr. On recently. We might have dropped that episode in the feet of this podcast if you want, if you want to go listen to that. If it's not there, we couldn't figure out how to do it, but should should be dropping an episode in the TDZ feed soon. But also, all you need to do is search Miles and Jack got mad boost Ease, And I think there's only like three podcasts with that name you should be able to find just you can even search mad boost Ease. That's how lit the SEO is right now, okay, and it will appear for you. I mean, they trust me. The streak of amazing guests will continue. Some tweets I like, first one is from m Nate Shamalan sold me, tweeted Elon Musk said he would fix Twitter, okay, but he also said he made an unsmashable window and then smashed it immediately. Let me we all remember that cyber truck demo, which, by the way, where's that cyber where Tuck? Remember that? I'm like that you do that too. One of three people who think those look cool, like I want to see those one three people bro, plenty of people were working with the cyber truck. Um, yeah, oh yeah, people can't afford it. What's the cyber truck? It's that. Then he released like or showed people like two years ago, and it looks like it was like rendered in probably like sixty four bit graphics. I would say it looks like the car that the guy from the Arecibo illustration would be to a drive offen exactly and just a blocky truck like the hieroglyphics that we sent, Yeah, exactly. Yeah. If there was another if if they also had to represent a car, that's what the cyper. Also another tweet I like is from at krotschen Er tweeted, do you think they were giggling inside the Trojan damn mind mouth? We look. We love a good we love a good history reference. I just love I love that if like, how do you know just like the gate, Yeah, you're like, wow, look at this, it's a gift for us. We should bring this inside the walls. I definitely would have been giggling. I would have gotten everybody killed. Just like covering your mouth, and I like to there's a guy in the Trojan horse named Jack Jack. Yeah, that was a good one. Uh, Newpot trailer comes out Monday was a tweet I enjoyed from Jamie Loft as help, which is that's an event that's like a you know, truly it's a new Nolan film drop and that's a new Uh. Yeah, that's good. What's she getting weird about this time? Do you guys know you're gonna have to wait till Monday to find out? But yeah, it's really it's really today today, So yeah, that's what I meant. It's Monday. I knew that. Let's see another tweet I've been enjoying. Aidan tweeted at the water fountain just past airport security frantically refilling my aquarium and I mean that's just sad. Uh. And then Luke Mons tweeted a picture of one of those uh baby bell cheese is like the wax things and said, shout out to these little guys. No better snack than cheese inside a candle. There's so much wax on those, I know, Okay. And then finally I did want to get your opinions on this. I don't think I said. You can find me on Twitter at Jack under Squirrel, Brian, somebody tweeted. Spooney Bard tweeted. When I was a kid, I thought the long vampire fangs were hollow and they had holes in the end that they drank blood through like straws. M hmm. I thought that too. Did anybody else think that? Now? Why did? Why do they have the little puncture ones? So it just gets it down, that's crazy. I don't know why you wouldn't want to say their fangs are the Capri sun straw, which is that you don't have, you don't need the straw inside the teeth, which doesn't make any sense. But that's what I thought was happening. I know I was the same way. You know what it could have been too. It probably coincides when that I found out that spier snakes fangs are hollow, so the venom can exactly. So I think I associated fangs with being straws or some kind of tubular vessel. Yeah, anyway, But I'm not saying I'm smart. That's just we're too dumb fucking guys. No, it's definitely not the same conclusion. The same time, I'm with you. Maybe that's our entire worldviews were built on a shaky foundation of a very dumb assumption and now we like all the same tweets. There's one another, so who knows. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist, were at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, Daily Zeitgeist dot com, where we post our episodes. On our foot notes, we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? Okay, so this is a track I just saw the the Deny Villeneuve Dune recently wild and and so I was just listening to this old let's go out on some Dave Matthews to be specific, David Matthews, who is a jazz musician who made this like jazz funk album in the seventies called Dune, And it was this this like funky jazz dude being like, what if I made an album based on the book Dune? And some of the tracks are fucking really good. And in fact, this one we're going to go out on, which is called Part two Sandworms shout out shy alud is like like constantly being sampled in the hip hop from like Large Professor to like Pete Rock. There's a meThe Man and Redman track, so if you hear this, you might recognize this as a sample that's used in hip hop, but also this album. I was like looking at the personnel on it. It's pretty fucking stacked. Like Dave, Like like Dave Samborne, who was a pretty famous jazz or sacks player in the nine eighties and nineties. He's on it. Steve Dad, one of my favorite drummers, is playing on this too. It's like they got good jazz people on this, but playing a Dune themed album. So check this one out. Part two Sandworms by David Matthews. I thought I was picturing you watching Dune and then being like man, and when you think about it, we're all just like ants marching like the Hopefully the song is better than the movie that Mike, Okay, hey it might be. Look if the bars that load, you're definitely gonna focus Sandworms. I wasn't it's easy about the movie, but I think I'm gonna enjoy it more once it's actually a complete movie. I didn't I don't know, I don't know shit about Doom and not fu with it. Yeah. I think I was like, this is a lot of sand. That's pretty much all that's got going for it. Yeah. I kind of a thing for sand, so I might be biased. Also, jazz might have wanted to consider fake names like those jazz musicians that you were. I'm sure our legendary and amazing artists like David Sandbord, Steve, Steve Ahead. That's a that's a programmer's name. Man, that's not Steve gad Is. I'm nasty, I know what you mean. But yeah, that's that's back when you know, people got by on just regular names. I heard of Axl Rose. I did not hear of Steve gad you know, because I was seven and I was like, that name is fucking cool. In the late eighties, he did to change his name to kind of keep up with the times, and he became Big Gaddy King. All right, Well, The Daily Zay Guys is a production by Her Radio. For more podcast from my Heart Radio, visit the Her Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows that it is going to do it for us this morning, but we are back this afternoon to tell you what's trending. So we will talk to y'all that bite spite