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My guest tonight is one of the most influential people of our time. She's a global media leader, philanthropist, and author whose new book is called The Path Made Clear, Discovering your Life's Direction and Purpose. Please welcome Oprah Winfrey.

My guest tonight is one of the most influential people of our time. She's a global media leader, philanthropist, and author whose new book is called The Path Made Clear, Discovering your Life's Direction and Purpose. Please welcome Oprah Winfrey.

Mouth Oh, I will say, that's fine, Hey, hey, and.

Mouth Oh, I will say, that's fine, Hey, hey, and.

Hell are people?

Hell are people?

Thank you?

Thank you?

And our time is up. We'll be right back. Thank you.

And our time is up. We'll be right back. Thank you.

Do you ever get used to the amounts of joy you see on people's faces when you walk by, because even in the building, Oprah, this is the craziest thing.

Do you ever get used to the amounts of joy you see on people's faces when you walk by, because even in the building, Oprah, this is the craziest thing.

That's ever happened to me. Let me tell you.

That's ever happened to me. Let me tell you.

Now, we're backstage, I'm getting my makeup done, we're walking. Then Oprah just walks. She doesn't come through like the celebrity answers. No, she just walks through the building, just greechingyone. But surely you realize that you are causing chaos everywhere you go.

Now, we're backstage, I'm getting my makeup done, we're walking. Then Oprah just walks. She doesn't come through like the celebrity answers. No, she just walks through the building, just greechingyone. But surely you realize that you are causing chaos everywhere you go.

No, Actually, I love these moments. This happens to me quite often. I'll run into someone who says, oh my god, you don't know, you don't know what this means, And I said, yeah, I do. You came home from school, your mom wasn't there. Yes, you were a latchkey kid. You watch me at four o'clock. So I raised you right.

No, Actually, I love these moments. This happens to me quite often. I'll run into someone who says, oh my god, you don't know, you don't know what this means, And I said, yeah, I do. You came home from school, your mom wasn't there. Yes, you were a latchkey kid. You watch me at four o'clock. So I raised you right.

Yes, that's exactly what it is.

Yes, that's exactly what it is.

So I feel like I feel rewarded by that. I feel like I think I did a good lot of good job raising people. I felt a great job.

So I feel like I feel rewarded by that. I feel like I think I did a good lot of good job raising people. I felt a great job.

That's what I plan.

That's what I plan.

But this is what covers.

But this is what covers.

I ner it was time to leave the show when people who had come to the show then they had children, and their children were now having children watching the show.

I ner it was time to leave the show when people who had come to the show then they had children, and their children were now having children watching the show.

It's time to go.

It's time to go.

You know you say that, but I honestly wonder if you didn't leave too soon. Here's why I say this. You left the show, But it feels like we never got tired of Oprah. I mean, we now are watching it on Super Soul Sundays. We're seeing Oprah. Do you think it you just needed a break in?

You know you say that, but I honestly wonder if you didn't leave too soon. Here's why I say this. You left the show, But it feels like we never got tired of Oprah. I mean, we now are watching it on Super Soul Sundays. We're seeing Oprah. Do you think it you just needed a break in?

You know what?

You know what?

I do wish that The only time I actually really missed mismissed it was twenty sixteen because I thought for sure that speaking to the audience.

I do wish that The only time I actually really missed mismissed it was twenty sixteen because I thought for sure that speaking to the audience.

Every day, because this is what I missed the most.

Every day, because this is what I missed the most.

I missed having a discourse with the audience every day, and because every day after the show, it's been time with the audience because for years I signed autographs and then I thought one day I didn't and I had so much more energy.

I missed having a discourse with the audience every day, and because every day after the show, it's been time with the audience because for years I signed autographs and then I thought one day I didn't and I had so much more energy.

What do I really want to do? I want to talk to the audience.

What do I really want to do? I want to talk to the audience.

So the audience ten years in became my biggest focus.

So the audience ten years in became my biggest focus.

Groul Wow.

Groul Wow.

Yes, And so we were talking talking about So I would.

Yes, And so we were talking talking about So I would.

Not have been surprised by the election or anything because I would have been talking to people from all states.

Not have been surprised by the election or anything because I would have been talking to people from all states.

You would have been in touch with that.

You would have been in touch with that.

It would have been my direct connection. And so that's what I missed that.

It would have been my direct connection. And so that's what I missed that.

It feels like.

It feels like.

That's the story of your life. Is you love to be in an environment where you wind in touch with human beings. That's what this book feels like. It's about the path made kid, discovering your life's direction and purpose. You seem like someone who's always had your path like nailed down.

That's the story of your life. Is you love to be in an environment where you wind in touch with human beings. That's what this book feels like. It's about the path made kid, discovering your life's direction and purpose. You seem like someone who's always had your path like nailed down.

Pretty clear, Yeah, pretty clear?

Pretty clear, Yeah, pretty clear?

Like where do you think you got that from?

Like where do you think you got that from?

And why do you think this book will help people do the same just like you?

And why do you think this book will help people do the same just like you?

Being raised First of all, I love your book so much.

Being raised First of all, I love your book so much.

I love you, love your book so much.

I love you, love your book so much.

And being raised by a strong grandmother taught me to read. But what I learned to read was the Bible and grew up, you know, in kindergarten. When I went to kinder garden, you know the story the why I went to kindergarten. No, I had been in Mississippi, which was in a partheight state. And so when I moved to Milwaukee and had just started kindergarten, I walked in and all these little white kids were doing their ABC's and I said, I know some big words, and I wrote them all down to my kindergarten teacher, Shad wrag meshak A Bendigo, my grandma, and I got myself out of kindergarten the first day. That is yes, So being grounded in something that I knew was bigger than myself is set the course for me to understand that there's always something greater than you and that no matter what, you were going to be all right.

And being raised by a strong grandmother taught me to read. But what I learned to read was the Bible and grew up, you know, in kindergarten. When I went to kinder garden, you know the story the why I went to kindergarten. No, I had been in Mississippi, which was in a partheight state. And so when I moved to Milwaukee and had just started kindergarten, I walked in and all these little white kids were doing their ABC's and I said, I know some big words, and I wrote them all down to my kindergarten teacher, Shad wrag meshak A Bendigo, my grandma, and I got myself out of kindergarten the first day. That is yes, So being grounded in something that I knew was bigger than myself is set the course for me to understand that there's always something greater than you and that no matter what, you were going to be all right.

So that should be your mantra.

So that should be your mantra.

Look at wherever you come from, things are always working out for you, and when you have faith, you know that things always will.

Look at wherever you come from, things are always working out for you, and when you have faith, you know that things always will.

The book really feels like a conversation with the reader that does exactly that. It talks to you about the journeys and the steps that you can take in life to get you you need to be. What I enjoy is you speak to people who are inspiring all walks of life.

The book really feels like a conversation with the reader that does exactly that. It talks to you about the journeys and the steps that you can take in life to get you you need to be. What I enjoy is you speak to people who are inspiring all walks of life.

Yes and one that's my favorite thing to That's what I've known. You love being inspired by people. But your Oprah, but your Oprah them.

Yes and one that's my favorite thing to That's what I've known. You love being inspired by people. But your Oprah, but your Oprah them.

Why did you choose these people in the book to inspire us with their story?

Why did you choose these people in the book to inspire us with their story?

Because there are all people that I've been talking to over the years of right, so Sunday and master classes. You you're on page one sixty nine, Yes you are, and if you are, so, there are all people who've inspired me because at this stage in my life, I only talk to who I want to talk to, Okay.

Because there are all people that I've been talking to over the years of right, so Sunday and master classes. You you're on page one sixty nine, Yes you are, and if you are, so, there are all people who've inspired me because at this stage in my life, I only talk to who I want to talk to, Okay.

So I.

So I.

Really do, and so to be to be surrounded by people.

Really do, and so to be to be surrounded by people.

And this is the truth.

And this is the truth.

Whether you have a talk show or not, whatever you're doing in your life, you need to surround yourself with people who are going to stimulate, inspire and lift you up, who are going to give you energy and not take energy away from you. And if you're around people who are taking energy away from you, that's an energy drain. And that is the sign from your instinct you're her voice, your intuition to say let them go.

Whether you have a talk show or not, whatever you're doing in your life, you need to surround yourself with people who are going to stimulate, inspire and lift you up, who are going to give you energy and not take energy away from you. And if you're around people who are taking energy away from you, that's an energy drain. And that is the sign from your instinct you're her voice, your intuition to say let them go.

Yeah, wow, all right, we've still got a lot long with Oprah Winter coming up. Don't go wherey everybody, We'll be right back. Yeah, welcome back to the Tiny Show.

Yeah, wow, all right, we've still got a lot long with Oprah Winter coming up. Don't go wherey everybody, We'll be right back. Yeah, welcome back to the Tiny Show.

We are here with Oprah Winfrey talking about her brand new book, The Puff Made Clear, Discovering your life's direction and purpose. When you look at successful people, you have talked to everyone in the world who is successful, what would you say is the one common characteristic that you find gets people to where they want to go?

We are here with Oprah Winfrey talking about her brand new book, The Puff Made Clear, Discovering your life's direction and purpose. When you look at successful people, you have talked to everyone in the world who is successful, what would you say is the one common characteristic that you find gets people to where they want to go?

The most important question is the people get to where they want to go because they know where they want to go?

The most important question is the people get to where they want to go because they know where they want to go?

Wow.

Wow.

Most people don't know where they want to go. Most people, a lot of people are going and being driven by what they think they should do, what other people say they should do, what they have carried in their mind for a long time they should do. But the most imporant question you can ever ask yourself is what do I really want?

Most people don't know where they want to go. Most people, a lot of people are going and being driven by what they think they should do, what other people say they should do, what they have carried in their mind for a long time they should do. But the most imporant question you can ever ask yourself is what do I really want?

Wow?

Wow?

And the answer to that, once you can establish for yourself with the answer to that, is and have everything you do, every choice you make move you in the direction of what you say your vision is right? Yeah, And when you do that, the forces of life rise up to meet you. The reason why most people have such chaotic lives is because they're living in chaos in their head.

And the answer to that, once you can establish for yourself with the answer to that, is and have everything you do, every choice you make move you in the direction of what you say your vision is right? Yeah, And when you do that, the forces of life rise up to meet you. The reason why most people have such chaotic lives is because they're living in chaos in their head.

And as soon as you get clear, it clears up.

And as soon as you get clear, it clears up.

You you have, it clears up. And I did this book.

You you have, it clears up. And I did this book.

You know. One of the reasons I did this book because you know, I have all these wonderful girls from South Africa who love you.

You know. One of the reasons I did this book because you know, I have all these wonderful girls from South Africa who love you.

Yes, you say, Leprah, he's under red.

Yes, you say, Leprah, he's under red.

Could you get a simps want to give you context. Here's the thing.

Could you get a simps want to give you context. Here's the thing.

So twelve years ago you started the Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy in South Africa, which is honestly one of the most amazing institutions because it goes beyond just a school. Yes, it's an idea. Yes, you've gotten girls in a country.

So twelve years ago you started the Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy in South Africa, which is honestly one of the most amazing institutions because it goes beyond just a school. Yes, it's an idea. Yes, you've gotten girls in a country.

Way, thank you for so long.

Way, thank you for so long.

No it is it's an idea where you've said to these young black girls who are powerful and empowered to be, like, hey, be the best you can be, and you are creating lead us. But what you found, and you speak about this, is that there was a pressure that came with that where they went.

No it is it's an idea where you've said to these young black girls who are powerful and empowered to be, like, hey, be the best you can be, and you are creating lead us. But what you found, and you speak about this, is that there was a pressure that came with that where they went.

I went to Oprah School, which means I have to be everything.

I went to Oprah School, which means I have to be everything.

Yeah, but you only have to be yourself because there's nobody else in the world who's quite like you. And what your real job is to do is to come to the world and understand that your job is to figure out what it is you have to offer. Like, what you do every night looks like a talk show, but what you're offering us is relief. What you're offering us is a way to see ourselves differently.

Yeah, but you only have to be yourself because there's nobody else in the world who's quite like you. And what your real job is to do is to come to the world and understand that your job is to figure out what it is you have to offer. Like, what you do every night looks like a talk show, but what you're offering us is relief. What you're offering us is a way to see ourselves differently.

What you're offering us is humor. But what you're offering.

What you're offering us is humor. But what you're offering.

Us is a way in to see our culture. And that is what you do. And so it's bigger than a talk show. It's bigger than just this moment with you and I sitting in the chair, because what you are broadcasting to the world is this sort of essence of yourself.

Us is a way in to see our culture. And that is what you do. And so it's bigger than a talk show. It's bigger than just this moment with you and I sitting in the chair, because what you are broadcasting to the world is this sort of essence of yourself.

You know, your purpose is greater than this moment in this chair.

You know, your purpose is greater than this moment in this chair.

Was there ever a moment where you maybe had the wrong idea of what your purpose would be? I know you speak a little bit about in the book, but was there ever a moment where you failed and you're glad that you failed because it puts you on the path that you were meant to be on.

Was there ever a moment where you maybe had the wrong idea of what your purpose would be? I know you speak a little bit about in the book, but was there ever a moment where you failed and you're glad that you failed because it puts you on the path that you were meant to be on.

Well, you know, we were just talking about this during the commercial break. It was actually a show that I was doing with skinheads and you know, white supremacists where I thought I was showing the world their vitriol right, letting the world see that. And I recognized they were actually using me. They were using that platform because I, at the time did not understand how powerful the platform was.

Well, you know, we were just talking about this during the commercial break. It was actually a show that I was doing with skinheads and you know, white supremacists where I thought I was showing the world their vitriol right, letting the world see that. And I recognized they were actually using me. They were using that platform because I, at the time did not understand how powerful the platform was.

Wow.

Wow.

So when I figured that.

So when I figured that.

Out, I literally said, I'm only going to use my work this platform as a force for good.

Out, I literally said, I'm only going to use my work this platform as a force for good.

I will cause no harm. I will cause no harm.

I will cause no harm. I will cause no harm.

Let me ask you this. When you when you.

Let me ask you this. When you when you.

When you would demoted from the news division. Oh yeah, that's an interesting moment because you know, in life there was go, you know, fail and then try again and try again and try again. But this is this is an interesting one because you technically failed at the news division, you would demote it to the talk show. But the show ended up being the greatest promotion.

When you would demoted from the news division. Oh yeah, that's an interesting moment because you know, in life there was go, you know, fail and then try again and try again and try again. But this is this is an interesting one because you technically failed at the news division, you would demote it to the talk show. But the show ended up being the greatest promotion.

Say, I was on the talk show, which was like the Carvel ice Cream Man.

Say, I was on the talk show, which was like the Carvel ice Cream Man.

Okay, there's not like a big guest.

Okay, there's not like a big guest.

Yes, it's a Carvel ice creaman and his multi flavors.

Yes, it's a Carvel ice creaman and his multi flavors.

Okay.

Okay.

But I had been been demoted from the news because I was too emotional. I would get too engaged in the stories. I would go, Yes, I was too emotional, and I was always getting written up for being too emotional. With the stories, and so had I not been demoted, I probably would have for a long time continued on that path because my father was like, they're paying you twenty five thousand dollars, you better keep that job. So I would have stayed for all the wrong reasons instead of taking what looked like a failure in the moment and being demoted. And then the moment I sat down on my first talk show, I thought, I have come home to myself. And that's what everybody is looking for, the path that allows you to come home to yourself.

But I had been been demoted from the news because I was too emotional. I would get too engaged in the stories. I would go, Yes, I was too emotional, and I was always getting written up for being too emotional. With the stories, and so had I not been demoted, I probably would have for a long time continued on that path because my father was like, they're paying you twenty five thousand dollars, you better keep that job. So I would have stayed for all the wrong reasons instead of taking what looked like a failure in the moment and being demoted. And then the moment I sat down on my first talk show, I thought, I have come home to myself. And that's what everybody is looking for, the path that allows you to come home to yourself.

I feel like you're creating that for others now because now we're seeing Oprah Winfrey the executive producer, we're seeing the own network, We're seeing your work with creator as David Oyoloo was on the shore there talking about his first opportunity to direct. When you are creating, when you are helping others to create, you have to take a different position because it's not for you, for somebody else.

I feel like you're creating that for others now because now we're seeing Oprah Winfrey the executive producer, we're seeing the own network, We're seeing your work with creator as David Oyoloo was on the shore there talking about his first opportunity to direct. When you are creating, when you are helping others to create, you have to take a different position because it's not for you, for somebody else.

You know.

You know.

But the most wonderful thing I think that everybody, and especially if you've been able to be blessed and achieved as much as I have, the great reward and joy comes from being able to lift other people up to look back or reach back and lift other people to the highest level of themselves, because that's really what we're all looking for. It's what I say in here that the reason why there is common ground for all of us is because you want the same thing I want. And even in my position in life, I'm still reaching for what is the truest, highest expression of myself as a human being. Wow, that's the path you're looking for. And when you know that, that's what we're all looking for. So my job is I think I've found that, and I continue to find it by helping other people to find that for themselves.

But the most wonderful thing I think that everybody, and especially if you've been able to be blessed and achieved as much as I have, the great reward and joy comes from being able to lift other people up to look back or reach back and lift other people to the highest level of themselves, because that's really what we're all looking for. It's what I say in here that the reason why there is common ground for all of us is because you want the same thing I want. And even in my position in life, I'm still reaching for what is the truest, highest expression of myself as a human being. Wow, that's the path you're looking for. And when you know that, that's what we're all looking for. So my job is I think I've found that, and I continue to find it by helping other people to find that for themselves.

The ways you're doing that is by creating a docu series with Prince Harry about mental.

The ways you're doing that is by creating a docu series with Prince Harry about mental.

You Can't Feel Back the Curtain Problems.

You Can't Feel Back the Curtain Problems.

One of the things you're doing is talking about mental health and I love how you you called it mental fitness, because that's how we need to think of it as people alway healthy in our minds.

One of the things you're doing is talking about mental health and I love how you you called it mental fitness, because that's how we need to think of it as people alway healthy in our minds.

You're working with Prince Harry, which is really exciting.

You're working with Prince Harry, which is really exciting.

I'm going, what is it like to work with Royalty?

I'm going, what is it like to work with Royalty?

For him?

For him?

Uh's good?

Uh's good?

He got me, he got me. He is a great partner. And I want everybody to know that. First of all, I don't do or engage in anything unless I'm giving one hundred percent. He feels the same, and so he is a great partner in helping us decide what who we're going to interview, how it's going to be interviewed, what subjects we're going to be covering. I've had, you know, meetings with him, We've sat down with our team, and we're working together on this as a real partnership.

He got me, he got me. He is a great partner. And I want everybody to know that. First of all, I don't do or engage in anything unless I'm giving one hundred percent. He feels the same, and so he is a great partner in helping us decide what who we're going to interview, how it's going to be interviewed, what subjects we're going to be covering. I've had, you know, meetings with him, We've sat down with our team, and we're working together on this as a real partnership.

Ready. Yeah, it's genuinely exciting.

Ready. Yeah, it's genuinely exciting.

I mean, everything you do blows up everything.

I mean, everything you do blows up everything.

Well, you know why it was so important to me.

Well, you know why it was so important to me.

This is why it was so important to me, because I have a girls' school and you know, these girls come from provinces all over South Africa. When you're dealing with people who come from lots of trauma, that trauma shows itself in later life as depression, sometimes as anxiety, sometimes as mental health issues. And there was a time where I had five girls in the hospital at the same time with depression, suicidal, ideation, all kinds of things. So I became interested in the subject of mental health because I spent too many times in a psych ward and because I recognize that the impact of poverty and the impact of trauma in poverty really causes people to carry that into their lives unless it is processed and unless they can come forward in a way that releases it. So for me, doing this mental health series is a way of releasing the shame, helping people to release the shame and the stigma from stigma for themselves because there's almost nobody you know that doesn't have somebody in their family who's going through some kind of difficulty.

This is why it was so important to me, because I have a girls' school and you know, these girls come from provinces all over South Africa. When you're dealing with people who come from lots of trauma, that trauma shows itself in later life as depression, sometimes as anxiety, sometimes as mental health issues. And there was a time where I had five girls in the hospital at the same time with depression, suicidal, ideation, all kinds of things. So I became interested in the subject of mental health because I spent too many times in a psych ward and because I recognize that the impact of poverty and the impact of trauma in poverty really causes people to carry that into their lives unless it is processed and unless they can come forward in a way that releases it. So for me, doing this mental health series is a way of releasing the shame, helping people to release the shame and the stigma from stigma for themselves because there's almost nobody you know that doesn't have somebody in their family who's going through some kind of difficulty.

When you speak about trauma. Is that one of the reasons you were so drawn to the Michael Jackson documentary because I noticed when you were when you were speaking about that it felt personal to you, It felt visceral.

When you speak about trauma. Is that one of the reasons you were so drawn to the Michael Jackson documentary because I noticed when you were when you were speaking about that it felt personal to you, It felt visceral.

But you got a lot of hate for d Oh.

But you got a lot of hate for d Oh.

So much hateration.

So much hateration.

I haven't had that much iteration since I did the puppy episode with Ellen, so serious, yes, And you know what, I was saying this the other day that I'm so glad that when I did the puppy episode for Ellen, where Ellen came out and people just we had to take people off the switchboard because there's so much iteration going wow, Because that was before there was tweets, tweets and social media but I imagine had that happened now, imagine if that had happened now and you had social media.

I haven't had that much iteration since I did the puppy episode with Ellen, so serious, yes, And you know what, I was saying this the other day that I'm so glad that when I did the puppy episode for Ellen, where Ellen came out and people just we had to take people off the switchboard because there's so much iteration going wow, Because that was before there was tweets, tweets and social media but I imagine had that happened now, imagine if that had happened now and you had social media.

So I had a lot of hateration.

So I had a lot of hateration.

But I also when I first saw that a documentary, I realized that a lot of people going to get triggered, are going to be triggered by watching it, yes, and that a lot of people will not understand what the pattern is because I had done two hundred and seventeen shows trying to get people to understand that it's not about one person, that it is about the pattern.

But I also when I first saw that a documentary, I realized that a lot of people going to get triggered, are going to be triggered by watching it, yes, and that a lot of people will not understand what the pattern is because I had done two hundred and seventeen shows trying to get people to understand that it's not about one person, that it is about the pattern.

It is about the seduction, and.

It is about the seduction, and.

People call it a molestation, but there is a big seducing that goes on and the pattern of that seducing, and that was important enough for me to take the hateration for.

People call it a molestation, but there is a big seducing that goes on and the pattern of that seducing, and that was important enough for me to take the hateration for.

Did you ever waiver in your beliefs when the documentary went out and said there was a timeline issue my protection.

Did you ever waiver in your beliefs when the documentary went out and said there was a timeline issue my protection.

No, I have not waivered because I've had girls at my school who were sexually assaulted and abused, and I have never won a case. And the reason I have never won a case is because when you put a girl on the witness stand and she can't remember was it Thursday or Wednesday? That it's automatically discredited. And so when you're in the midst of trauma something terrible things happening to you, you may not remember the exact time. It's why I like, if I hear her noise or something in my house, are like, look at the time, because they're gonna ask what time?

No, I have not waivered because I've had girls at my school who were sexually assaulted and abused, and I have never won a case. And the reason I have never won a case is because when you put a girl on the witness stand and she can't remember was it Thursday or Wednesday? That it's automatically discredited. And so when you're in the midst of trauma something terrible things happening to you, you may not remember the exact time. It's why I like, if I hear her noise or something in my house, are like, look at the time, because they're gonna ask what time?

What time is it?

What time is it?

Oh my god, what time is it?

Oh my god, what time is it?

So if you can't remember the day and the time and the da dah da da, everybody's.

So if you can't remember the day and the time and the da dah da da, everybody's.

Like, well, okay, I guess it never happened.

Like, well, okay, I guess it never happened.

Does it never happened?

Does it never happened?

Oh it was?

Oh it was?

I said it was that hotel, but it was that hotel. Oh, it probably never happened. So I've been through that.

I said it was that hotel, but it was that hotel. Oh, it probably never happened. So I've been through that.

So no, before I let you go.

So no, before I let you go.

One lost question that I have to ask that you've answered many times, but I never know if the answer will change. Is Oprah Winfrey running for presidents?

One lost question that I have to ask that you've answered many times, but I never know if the answer will change. Is Oprah Winfrey running for presidents?

You don't even want that to happen. Why would you say that you.

You don't even want that to happen. Why would you say that you.

Don't even want that to happen? You know, Gail, my dearest friend. I thought she was actually serious, like, I think you should do it. You should do it for the country.

Don't even want that to happen? You know, Gail, my dearest friend. I thought she was actually serious, like, I think you should do it. You should do it for the country.

I said, you don't want that to happen because I have such a beautiful life.

I said, you don't want that to happen because I have such a beautiful life.

I have such a beautiful life. Why would I want to put myself in that at.

I have such a beautiful life. Why would I want to put myself in that at.

Such a beautiful right, right, I have such a beautiful life.

Such a beautiful right, right, I have such a beautiful life.

I know my path, and my path isn't that.

I know my path, and my path isn't that.

But whenever I decide whoever I want to support, I will get behind that person.

But whenever I decide whoever I want to support, I will get behind that person.

We'll be excited to wat for being on the shelf. The path made Claire is available. Now Oprah went for everybody jump out. Oprah has to leave. Yeah, so she was going anyway.

We'll be excited to wat for being on the shelf. The path made Claire is available. Now Oprah went for everybody jump out. Oprah has to leave. Yeah, so she was going anyway.

Don't be greedy, but but but but but I mean, this is like just a moment where we get to hang out.

Don't be greedy, but but but but but I mean, this is like just a moment where we get to hang out.

I know you you're dying. So we'll do this. Two questions.

I know you you're dying. So we'll do this. Two questions.

I'll take one from the side of the audience and one from that side. Something you've always wanted to ask. Don't let's go what a favorite color is?

I'll take one from the side of the audience and one from that side. Something you've always wanted to ask. Don't let's go what a favorite color is?

Think for a moment.

Think for a moment.

I'll ask her one question first, just to get us on them, so you can think for a little bit. Just one from this I one from outside is your best scenes thing you do between the scenes.

I'll ask her one question first, just to get us on them, so you can think for a little bit. Just one from this I one from outside is your best scenes thing you do between the scenes.

Just hang out and do it. This is like, it's funny. I don't know you talked to audience. Yes, yes, this is me. I just hang out with the real people.

Just hang out and do it. This is like, it's funny. I don't know you talked to audience. Yes, yes, this is me. I just hang out with the real people.

Isn't that cool?

Isn't that cool?

I love it? Are you kidding me? I wanted to know.

I love it? Are you kidding me? I wanted to know.

One thing you are, Oprah Winfrey. You have been very wealthy for a long time. You've worked hard to get there. I often wonder how much normal see this stool is in your life, Like how many normal random things happen to you? Like does you when was the last time your phone ran out of battery while you were speaking? Does that ever happen to you?

One thing you are, Oprah Winfrey. You have been very wealthy for a long time. You've worked hard to get there. I often wonder how much normal see this stool is in your life, Like how many normal random things happen to you? Like does you when was the last time your phone ran out of battery while you were speaking? Does that ever happen to you?

No?

No?

Okay, like like never? Like?

Okay, like like never? Like?

So, for instance, has there ever been a moment where you're in the bathroom and then the toilet roll is done?

So, for instance, has there ever been a moment where you're in the bathroom and then the toilet roll is done?

No?

No?

No?

No?

What is the most No?

What is the most No?

You know why because at my house, in my house, I don't know if this happens at your house, but at my house, when the toilet roller is checked regularly, and when it's been checked like after you go into the bathroom, yes, somebody would come in and it's folded into the little.

You know why because at my house, in my house, I don't know if this happens at your house, but at my house, when the toilet roller is checked regularly, and when it's been checked like after you go into the bathroom, yes, somebody would come in and it's folded into the little.

It's like, okay, okay, we'll take one from We'll take one from each side.

It's like, okay, okay, we'll take one from We'll take one from each side.

I will tell you something's very normal that you wouldn't think. Okay, let's I travel with my own I travel with my own bread, and I bring my own avocados.

I will tell you something's very normal that you wouldn't think. Okay, let's I travel with my own I travel with my own bread, and I bring my own avocados.

Yes, I do it. So I have an avocado orchard. So I think there's the story.

Yes, I do it. So I have an avocado orchard. So I think there's the story.

Normal over you just said, I'm gonna tell you something normal. They should have ado orchid.

Normal over you just said, I'm gonna tell you something normal. They should have ado orchid.

But so so I think it's ridiculous to pay for avocados, which is.

But so so I think it's ridiculous to pay for avocados, which is.

Are you kidding me? That is not a normal story.

Are you kidding me? That is not a normal story.

Okay, all right, I make my own avocados because they're too expensive.

Okay, all right, I make my own avocados because they're too expensive.

Okay, okay, another thing, very normal, very normal. I do not The one thing I will not do is send my underwear out.

Okay, okay, another thing, very normal, very normal. I do not The one thing I will not do is send my underwear out.

To be washed or cleaned.

To be washed or cleaned.

Wow.

Wow.

Okay, No, that's okay, that's that's you know why my grandmother would love that's.

Okay, No, that's okay, that's that's you know why my grandmother would love that's.

Like five dollars for pair of panties.

Like five dollars for pair of panties.

That's the reason. That's the reason, oh, my grandmother.

That's the reason. That's the reason, oh, my grandmother.

My grandmother would say, like, so, for instance, you know when you put the washing in the basket and everything, and so everyone in the family. So I would do washing, then my cousin would do everyone to do it, and then sometimes I would throw the underwear, and then my grand mother would come and then be.

My grandmother would say, like, so, for instance, you know when you put the washing in the basket and everything, and so everyone in the family. So I would do washing, then my cousin would do everyone to do it, and then sometimes I would throw the underwear, and then my grand mother would come and then be.

Like, Teva, you want people to know your secrets? You want to people what's this yourself? No, I much know your secrets. All right, that's kid. We're gonna get over broadcast, so we're gonna get two questions. Yes, right at the top school in the United States.

Like, Teva, you want people to know your secrets? You want to people what's this yourself? No, I much know your secrets. All right, that's kid. We're gonna get over broadcast, so we're gonna get two questions. Yes, right at the top school in the United States.

Yes, I'm actually thinking about it. I'm actually thinking about where and the reason why I called it the open when Free Leadership Acady the Girls in South Africa, because even then I was thinking, this will just be one, this will be like the satellite school, and then I will I will do others. But it's taken me a while to get it right. It took me about ten years to actually get it right.

Yes, I'm actually thinking about it. I'm actually thinking about where and the reason why I called it the open when Free Leadership Acady the Girls in South Africa, because even then I was thinking, this will just be one, this will be like the satellite school, and then I will I will do others. But it's taken me a while to get it right. It took me about ten years to actually get it right.

So thank you for that question. I'm actually thinking about it.

So thank you for that question. I'm actually thinking about it.

Where I want to do it.

Where I want to do it.

Yes, yes, ma'am.

Yes, yes, ma'am.

I just wanted to find out for me because I have been mental health trained, mental health first aid trained, and in my culture, I see people with mental health issues because of trauma and.

I just wanted to find out for me because I have been mental health trained, mental health first aid trained, and in my culture, I see people with mental health issues because of trauma and.

Property but they will admit it. Yeah, what's the thing?

Property but they will admit it. Yeah, what's the thing?

How do I get them to realize what the experience is actually trauma.

How do I get them to realize what the experience is actually trauma.

We're going to normalize it, so Harry and I are going to.

We're going to normalize it, so Harry and I are going to.

Normalize it to the point that people will be like.

Normalize it to the point that people will be like.

Hey, I got mental illness and that's that's what you want for it To call it out to the point where it's no longer such a stigmatized big deal, is no longer a taboo that people say they recognize themselves immediately. I will tell you this that when I when my girls, some of my girls first came here, I was talking to one on the phone who all the girls had said, this girl is depressed. She hasn't come out of her dor and blah blah blah. And we on the phone googled all the symptoms for depression. And this girl, who's now by the way, doing very well but said to me, I said, so you're every single symptom of depression.

Hey, I got mental illness and that's that's what you want for it To call it out to the point where it's no longer such a stigmatized big deal, is no longer a taboo that people say they recognize themselves immediately. I will tell you this that when I when my girls, some of my girls first came here, I was talking to one on the phone who all the girls had said, this girl is depressed. She hasn't come out of her dor and blah blah blah. And we on the phone googled all the symptoms for depression. And this girl, who's now by the way, doing very well but said to me, I said, so you're every single symptom of depression.

You need to get help. And she said, I can't be depressed.

You need to get help. And she said, I can't be depressed.

I'm African, and Africans don't get depressed.

I'm African, and Africans don't get depressed.

That's that's a true thing. Yeah, I can't be depressed.

That's that's a true thing. Yeah, I can't be depressed.

I'm African.

I'm African.

So I want to erase that.

So I want to erase that.

And the way to do it is by talking about it more so watch the series.

And the way to do it is by talking about it more so watch the series.

All Right, So that's it. That's it.

All Right, So that's it. That's it.

But but I like, I have one final question before you go. I one of the greatest pressures, in my opinion of being Oprah Yeah, is that everywhere you go, people are waiting for you to tell them to look under their seats. Yes, because everyone's waiting for you to give them something.

But but I like, I have one final question before you go. I one of the greatest pressures, in my opinion of being Oprah Yeah, is that everywhere you go, people are waiting for you to tell them to look under their seats. Yes, because everyone's waiting for you to give them something.

So I want to say, look into your seats. Everybody get dumb boo. You're all getting a book.

So I want to say, look into your seats. Everybody get dumb boo. You're all getting a book.

You're getting a book, You're getting your book. Everybody getting I'll go for everybody.

You're getting a book, You're getting your book. Everybody getting I'll go for everybody.

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