In this double interview episode, Andrew catches up with film producer and teacher Kenta McGrath about his work with young filmmakers for the Water Features project at the Perth International Arts Festival, as well as director Paul Damien Williams who directed the fantastic documentary Gurrumul.

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders listeners are advised that the following episode contains voices of people who have died.

Make sure to check out the Water Features program as it screens at the Fremantle Arts Centre from Wednesday the 7th of February through to Friday the 23rd of March.

Keep an eye on Madman Films as to where Gurrumul will be screening around Australia.

The Gurrumul song at the end of this episode is Djarimirri.