In this episode, Jeremy Cordeaux interviews Professor Ian Plimer, a geologist and critic of mainstream climate change narratives. They delve into various scientific, environmental, and social issues, offering counter-narratives to popular climate change discussions. Additionally, former Prime Minister John Howard joins the conversation, providing insights into political and social topics.

Key Topics Discussed:

• Methane Emissions from Old Coal Mines: The natural emission of methane from coal seams and the flaws in the study by climate activists.
• Critique of Renewable Energy: The environmental impact of wind and solar energy compared to traditional sources like coal, gas, nuclear, and hydro.
• Pumped Hydro Energy: The inefficacy of pumped hydro energy storage as a solution.
• Oxygen and Photosynthesis: Misconceptions about the "lungs of the planet" and the role of the Amazon versus phytoplankton.
• Extinction of Dinosaurs: Theories on the asteroid impact versus volcanic activity in the extinction of dinosaurs.
• Evolution and Fossils: Discussion on the evolution of life, particularly dinosaurs, and their connection to modern birds.
• Human Evolution and Climate: The impact of climate cycles on human evolution and the survival of species.
• Religion and Science: Professor Plimer's reflections on spirituality, religion, and the complexity of life.
• Climate Change Narrative: The control of public opinion through climate change narratives and the lack of debate on alternative views.
• Political Leadership and Society: A conversation with John Howard on leadership, the current political landscape, and social issues like the "three flags" and "Welcome to Country."