The Country 24/03/25: Claire Taylor talks to Jamie Mackay

Published Mar 24, 2025, 12:49 AM

 We welcome back our favourite Scottish/Aussie farmer and Nuffield Scholar to The Country.

 

Right to welcome back to the country a favorite Scottish Ozzie Farmer slash Nuffield scholar in the form of Clear Taylor. Cleaiar Taylor. We last caught up with you in August of last year. You were in the studios here in Dunedin in March of last year. I think that you are completing or about to complete the longest Snuffield scholarship in the history of Nuffield scholarships.

Clear, Hi, Jamie Scretchy back on the program. I am. Last time you spoke to me, I was visiting Australia, and now I've moved to Australia and I'm at the final stages of my Nutfield report was to on hold slightly as I moved continents, I moved to different hemispheres, but yeah, I'm getting to the end of it now, so it's yeah, the end is in sight.

Well, I played a wee bit of wet wet wet lovers all around into you Clear here today, and that's what brought you to Australia. Love with a guy by the name of Mitch Hyatt who's a former Xander McDonald Award winner. And you and you can thank Shane Mcamn, the matchmaker.

I can and I laughed about it because I think it was just before I went to Australia where I met Mitch. I'd been on your program, Jamie and having everybody been warning me in New Zealand that I wasn't to meet an Aussie farmer. I was to marry a Kiwi farmer. So that made me laugh. I think it was day two of Australia I accidentally was introduced to Mitt. And here I am over here later, living here, so things have definitely changed now.

Your not Field scholarship was based around turning the tide on the anti farming agenda. Gee, I'll tell you what. You're an Aussie now, Claire, but I think your home country, Scotland needs you the way Sirkaia Stamer is going tough times at home.

Yeah, it's been really difficult watching and speaking to people at home. I mean, just to give your listeners a bit of a summary. They haven't they haven't really got the background on it. And last Majune we had the Labor government come into was elected into parliament for the UK, we had a conservative government in for many years. Government came in and when their first budget came out in the October. They basically announced that they were going to lift inheritance tax relief for farmers and this sent absolute shockways throughout the whole of the United Kingdom because they set the limit at a million pounds, so any property that was worth the value over a million would have to find twenty percent to pay back. But the problem is in the UK farmers are they're very sort of low in cash flow, but they're sitting on land assets are high in value. And it's just sent shockways because family farms, who are they're sitting on you know, profit margins zero point five one percent. There's no way they had the castle to pay this off, and it's really sparked this upset about could this be the end of family farming? Which is why we're seeing protests around the country. I mean these have been going off now since November. I was there in November, I went to some of the pro well protest rallies. It's been all sorts of things happening, but this has continued right into March. There was the one only last week. So yeah, a lot of concern in Scotland right now.

Tell me about that, Yeah, tell me about the new business you've set up in Australia, but you're looking for business here in New Zealand as well, and no doubt, Beck in the UK, I'll give you a shineless plug. Clay Tayler.

Yeah, So off the back of my scholarship, I wanted to put my learnings into practice and you said there, Jamie, that I've been looking at how do we turn the tide and anti farming sentiment, and a lot of that has been about how can we help farmers, how can they help different individuals, businesses, organizations better respond to growing scrutiny because you're just given the example there. The UK scrutiny is growing and farming and my business is all about basically looking at how we're communicating and how we're advocating it. So it's advocacy consulting is what I've called it, and it's going to be looking at really amplifying the voice of agriculture more positively. And there's various things I'm doing as part of that, but I basically want to help farmers really get out with echo chambers and build relationship, build social license and put them on the front foot because I do think farming right around the world is under the cost. And yes I've moved from Scotland to Australia, but since I've been doing my scholarship, I've been so passionate about what's happening around the world and farming. We often get into the doorstep don't weave in our own country, but really it's much bigger than that. We've got to think more collaboratively globally, so that's why it's going to be all about how can I work with different countries.

Hell's you and you know A final question for you in Orange with the love of your life now, Mitch highat a Elsi farmer. You've been you've been pretty dry and inline New South Wales.

Yeah, we've been really struggling. I mean I've been here ten weeks and I think I can count in two hands how many times it's rained. So you can imagine what a shock that is coming from Scotland, especially where I live in the West Coast, which it's just rain almost every day. But yeah, we had a bit of rain recently. I'm staying here in a beautiful place called Orange for about four hours west of Sydney. It's a cool climate. Bit of similarity to Scotttland. We're pretty famous here for our cellar, doors or wine or cherries, some beautiful cattle productions, so there's part of that. It does still feel like home. And yeah, Mitch has been great moving here and he's got a fantastic business, so been able to learn more about that has been Yeah, it's been a wonderful experience so far.

Well, Claire Tyler has been great to catch up. Look forward to your final publication of your Nuffield scholarship around turning the tide on the anti farming agenda. Don't be a stranger. Good luck with your new life.

Thanks Jamie, take care,

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