We ask the chief executive of Rabobank whether he can sleep at night, and whether the banks are ripping farmers off, after Finance Minister Nicola Willis described competition amongst the banks as a "cosy pillow fight".

The Country Full Show: Monday, January 19, 2026
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The Country 19/01/26: Grant McCallum talks to Jamie Mackay
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