We catch up with a former All Black to get his thoughts on this weekend’s second test against France in Wellington.

<p>We catch up with a former All Black to get his thoughts on this weekend&rsquo;s second test against France in Wellington.</p>

Jamie Mackay delivers your daily fix of everything going on in NZ's biggest industry, along with a generous side-serve of news, sports and politics. The Country from Newstalk ZB, Hokonui and Gold Sport.

<p>Jamie Mackay delivers your daily fix of everything going on in NZ's biggest industry, along with a generous side-serve of news, sports and politics. The Country from Newstalk ZB, Hokonui and Gold Sport.</p>

The Country

The Country 11/07/25: Aaron Cruden talks to Hamish McKay

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