A former chief executive of Federated Farmers, and brother of former Prime Minister Sir Bill English, comments on the state of the National Party. He’s also the president of the New Zealand Esports Federation, which starts an argument with The Country’s host, who insists gaming isn’t a sport.

<p>A former chief executive of Federated Farmers, and brother of former Prime Minister Sir Bill English, comments on the state of the National Party. He&rsquo;s also the president of the New Zealand Esports Federation, which starts an argument with The Country&rsquo;s host, who insists gaming isn&rsquo;t a sport.</p>

Jamie Mackay delivers your daily fix of everything going on in NZ's biggest industry, along with a generous side-serve of news, sports and politics. The Country from Newstalk ZB, Hokonui and Gold Sport.

<p>Jamie Mackay delivers your daily fix of everything going on in NZ's biggest industry, along with a generous side-serve of news, sports and politics. The Country from Newstalk ZB, Hokonui and Gold Sport.</p>

The Country

The Country 10/03/26: Conor English talks to Jamie Mackay

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