Is a Hawkes Bay farmer, former NZ Trade Envoy and former Chair of Beef + Lamb NZ who reckons that rather than beating up forestry and trees, land use change is an ongoing trend. He doesn't buy into the over dramatization of sheep number decline and says it's been happening since 1985. 

<p>Is a Hawkes Bay farmer, former NZ Trade Envoy and former Chair of Beef + Lamb NZ who reckons that rather than beating up forestry and trees, land use change is an ongoing trend. He doesn't buy into the over dramatization of sheep number decline and says it's been happening since 1985. </p>

Jamie Mackay delivers your daily fix of everything going on in NZ's biggest industry, along with a generous side-serve of news, sports and politics. The Country from Newstalk ZB, Hokonui and Gold Sport.

<p>Jamie Mackay delivers your daily fix of everything going on in NZ's biggest industry, along with a generous side-serve of news, sports and politics. The Country from Newstalk ZB, Hokonui and Gold Sport.</p>

The Country

The Country 02/10/24:  Mike Peterson talks to Jamie Mackay

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