Adam and Adir unpack San Francisco’s AI-fuelled tech boom, from Waymo and Zoox to Figma’s aggressive push and Lovable’s wild valuation. Later, Adir explains what DEF CON reveals about modern cybersecurity, before John Stensholt joins to discuss Tech Bros, Atlassian’s founder breakup and the strange billionaire world of Mike Cannon-Brookes and Scott Farquhar.

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00:00 - San Francisco, Waymo and Zoox
08:00 - Figma, AI and the API Boom
17:15 - Lovable’s $13bn Valuation
21:45 - Contrarians Live Show Announcement
26:30 - LinkedIn’s Algorithm Problem
31:30 - DEF CON, Hackers and Cybersecurity
51:15 - John Stensholt on Tech Bros and Atlassian

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