Productivity Commissioner Stephen King joins us to talk about regulation and innovation, data and AI, the lost decade of productivity growth, and the baptist and bootlegger issue. Plus Epic wins the first round against Apple and Google, mavericks and icepeople at the ACCC/AER Regulatory Conference, the first acquisition is notified under the new merger regime, and the long haul to the High Court for NSW Ports and the Port of Newcastle. All this and the Rock Bottom Remainders with co-hosts Moya Dodd and Matt Rubinstein.