NZCC Chief Economist and former DoJ Counsel Douglas Rathbun speaks to Special Counsel Haidee Leung about why New Zealand is the best place in the world to think about the future of competition policy, regulation of nascent technologies like generative AI, how the Commerce Commission is adapting to new challenges and, controversially, who really invented the flat white.  Plus the US v Google judgment and what it means for search and beyond; submissions to the Treasury consultation on unfair trading practices and unfair contract terms in ASIC v PayPal; and the Digital Platform Services Inquiry rounds the final corner and hits the nitrous.  All this and chapeaus, chaussures and chaussettes with co-hosts Moya Dodd and Matt Rubinstein .