Mike Pesca is one of our very favorite guests — onanynumberoftopics.

His book, Upon Further Review: The Greatest What-Ifs in Sports History, is a whole series of earth-shattering, hypothetical, what-if questions (and posited answers to said earth-shattering, hypothetical, what-if questions):

What if a blimp full of money had exploded over world track headquarters in 1952? What if Nixon had been good at football? What if Bobby Fischer had received proper psychiatric help? What if the Dodgers hadn’t left Brooklyn? What if basketball rims were smaller than basketballs? What if the 1999 U.S. women’s national soccer team had lost the Women’s World Cup? And yes: What if the Olympics had never dropped tug of war?

It goes on and on.

Pesca joins us for the hour.

GUESTS:
Will Leitch: Contributing editor at New York magazine, founder of Deadspin, and a whole bunch of other things
Mike Pesca: Host of The Gist and the author of Upon Further Review
Louisa Thomas: Staff writer at The New Yorker and the author of Louisa: The Extraordinary Life of Mrs. Adams

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Mike Pesca is one of our very favorite guests &mdash; <a href="https://www.ctpublic.org/show/the-colin-mcenroe-show/2025-03-19/march-madness-2025">on</a> <a href="https://www.ctpublic.org/show/the-colin-mcenroe-show/2023-05-01/the-artist-formerly-known-as-the-colin-mcenroe-show-conversations-about-rebranding">any</a> <a href="https://www.ctpublic.org/arts-and-culture/2019-05-23/from-the-bad-ideas-dept-its-a-show-about-towels">number</a> <a href="https://www.ctpublic.org/show/the-colin-mcenroe-show/2025-03-21/from-the-bad-ideas-dept-todays-show-is-not-about-tapirs">of</a> <a href="https://www.ctpublic.org/show/the-colin-mcenroe-show/2022-03-03/an-hour-with-the-gist-podcast-host-mike-pesca">topics</a>.
His book, <a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/mike-pesca/upon-further-review/9781455540372/">Upon Further Review: The Greatest What-Ifs in Sports History</a>, is a whole series of earth-shattering, hypothetical, what-if questions (and posited answers to said earth-shattering, hypothetical, what-if questions):
What if a blimp full of money had exploded over world track headquarters in 1952? <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/upon_further_review/2018/05/the_new_podcast_from_slate_s_mike_pesca_explores_the_greatest_what_ifs_in.html">What if Nixon had been good at football?</a> What if Bobby Fischer had received proper psychiatric help? <a href="https://slate.com/culture/2018/05/what-if-the-dodgers-had-never-left-brooklyn.html">What if the Dodgers hadn&rsquo;t left Brooklyn?</a> What if basketball rims were smaller than basketballs? <a href="https://slate.com/culture/2018/06/what-if-the-1999-u-s-womens-national-soccer-team-had-lost-the-womens-world-cup.html">What if the 1999 U.S. women&rsquo;s national soccer team had lost the Women&rsquo;s World Cup?</a> And yes: What if the Olympics had never dropped tug of war?
It goes on and on.
Pesca joins us for the hour.
GUESTS:
<ul>
<li>Will Leitch: Contributing editor at New York magazine, founder of Deadspin, and a whole bunch of other things</li>
<li>Mike Pesca: Host of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mikepesca.com/thegist">The Gist</a>&nbsp;and the author of Upon Further Review</li>
<li>Louisa Thomas: Staff writer at The New Yorker and the author of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.louisathomas.com/#louisa">Louisa: The Extraordinary Life of Mrs. Adams</a></li>
</ul>
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