Some Americans are considering whether this country is a place where they want to live in the future.

This hour is all about leaving the United States.

We talk to someone who made the move about what inspired her and her new life in Portugal. Plus, we learn more about the process of actually moving out of the country. And we talk to someone who has considered leaving, but ultimately decided to stay here, for now at least.

GUESTS: 


Wajahat Ali: The Daily Beast columnist, public speaker, and author of Go Back To Where You Came From: And Other Helpful Recommendations on Becoming American; he wrote “Is It Time for Me to Leave America?”


DeNeen Brown: Local enterprise reporter at The Washington Post and an associate professor at the University of Maryland; she wrote “The Case for Leaving America to Escape Racism” 


Caryl Hallberg: Moved from the United States to Portugal in 2020 


Jennifer Stevens:Executive editor of International Living

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Colin McEnroe, Jacob Gannon, and Cat Pastor contributed to this show, which originally aired on November 7, 2022.

Some Americans are considering whether this country is a place where they want to live in the future.
This hour is all about leaving the United States.
We talk to someone who made the move about what inspired her and her new life in Portugal. Plus, we learn more about the process of actually moving out of the country. And we talk to someone who has considered leaving, but ultimately decided to stay here, for now at least.
GUESTS: 
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Wajahat Ali: The Daily Beast columnist, public speaker, and author of <a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/go-back-to-where-you-came-from">Go Back To Where You Came From: And Other Helpful Recommendations on Becoming American</a>; he wrote “<a href="https://www.thedailybeast.com/is-it-time-for-me-to-leave-america">Is It Time for Me to Leave America?</a>”
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DeNeen Brown: Local enterprise reporter at The Washington Post and an associate professor at the University of Maryland; she wrote “<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2022/09/26/case-leaving-america-escape-racism/">The Case for Leaving America to Escape Racism</a>” 
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Caryl Hallberg: Moved from the United States to Portugal in 2020  
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Jennifer Stevens: Executive editor of <a href="https://internationalliving.com/">International Living</a>
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