Colin starts by reacting to the Commanders beating the Bucs on a walk off field goal and debates whether Jayden Daniels has been the best rookie quarterback in NFL history (2:45).
Then, Colin’s joined by John Middlekauff, host of “3 and out” to break down all the early Sunday NFL action from wild card weekend!
They start with the Eagles smothering the Packers despite a pedestrian showing from Jalen Hurts and why the early turnover by the Packers forced Jordan Love into more reckless throws that eventually sunk them (18:00). They heap praise on Eagles running back Saquon Barkley and that they are “his” team (26:45).
They pivot to the Bills crushing the Broncos in a game they call “unwinnable” for Denver while the Bills looked flawless and believe THIS is the year the Bills are best equipped to make it to the Super Bowl (32:30).
They discuss whether the Steelers should trade head coach Mike Tomlin in order to acquire draft assets and shake things up for a franchise that has been stagnant for several years (48:00). They talk about why the Mike Vrabel/Patriots pairing is a match made in heaven and Colin predicts massive improvement for the Pats next season (55:30).
Finally, they address the fires in Los Angeles and Colin expresses his disgust with the politicization and criticism of the response from people who don’t live in or understand LA, but also address some reservations they both have about issues with governance in California (1:07:00).
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Instant reaction on tonight's twenty three to twenty walk off doink by the Commanders to beat Tampa an upset, But if you had to pick one, you know this may have been the upset. I don't think many people thought Denver or green Bay were going to come out with wins. I'm a little surprised, but I mean, as Jaden Daniels the best rookie quarterback ever. I mean, he had a little bit of turbulence in the mid season, but it's a lot like Andrew Luck. I mean, Andrew Lock came into the league with a terrible roster and this isn't a great one. It's better than Andrew Lucks. But Andrew Luck was a top ten quarterback as a rookie, intelligence, toughness, mobility, arm Jaden's much thinner, He's not quite a rugged. I mean, the guy finished. I think I'm right on this fifth fourth quarter comeback this season. That's tied with Patrick Mahomes for the most in the NFL. I mean, it was interesting. I guess this was my best prediction of the year. I picked Washington to be a playoff team, and I think that's one of my favorite things to do, is do future bets where you try to predict. I picked Washington and Denver were my surprise teams last year. It was the Rams year before it was Minnesota. I have as much fun doing that as anything. But I didn't think Jaden Daniels would be this. I knew Cliff Kingsbury pounded the table for him. The kid, his quickness, his smarts, I mean in the red zone, I'm looking at this. On fourth down tonight, his passer rating was one oh three's that's just incredible. On the final drive, you know, three for three, ran for a first fifty seven passing yards. His decision making. I mean, do you know how fast you got to be above the shoulders to do all this stuff. I mean some of it's, you know, you're just kind of instinctive. Like obviously, great athletes are just naturally gifted. But I've said this about some players in sports, like some guys. I mean, Lebron broke into the NBA and he was such a smart player, had some limitations early on shooting from the outside, but he just had a feel for the game. This kid's making decisions in crisis in a congested red zone that, I mean, like eight year veterans make. I just I can't tell you how impressed I am with Jayden Daniels. And I had said Friday on the show, I like Tampa to win. And the only way that I thought Washington would win, because Tampa's got a better overall roster was if you know Jade and Daniels just perform magic. Yeah he did. What was he twenty four or thirty five and seven yards two two? D's no picks eleven rushes eight for fifteen on third down. I mean, and Tampa's defense is you know, Vita via upfront. I mean, it's active. Todd Bowles likes, it's aggressive. Tampa's always been a little bit of an underrated place to play. It gets pretty rowdy down in Tampa. Now they're on to Detroit, which will be a real test for Washington. But I think what you're watching this all time stuff, and you know, and I'm going to talk to John Middlcoff today about We've got a really good podcast that talks about Mike Tomlin, Mike Vrabel, Eagles, Packers, Bill's Broncos at the end of it twenty minutes. I think you'll be interested. John, a native Californian, his thoughts on the wildfires and the disaster in California. I think you'll really enjoy it. I'm sitting there watching that game tonight and I thought, after that goal line stand by Tampa, that was a great goal line stand, I thought, wow, that's game changing. And then Tampa fumbles, Washington gets it right back in jad and Daniels throws a ball a seed to the back of the end zone. But you got to give Dan coinn the credit too, because Dan, you know, a lot of people would have struggled to go forward on fourth down. But that's very Dan Campbell. So Dan Quinn's a very aggressive guy. Dan Campbell's a very aggressive guy. You'll see Mike Rabele do this in New England. Very aggressive guys. They're trying to create a culture, a culture of confidence, a culture of alpha, a culture of belief. And when you're as bad as Washington has been for this long, you've got to really change everything. I remember when Barry Alvarez took over Wisconsin and Wisconsin was a bottom ten college football program. And they had outdated facilities, and nobody thought Camp Randall was an intimidating place to play. And you know, Barry Alvarez was like, you've got to be proud. I mean, we are so lucky to have these facilities. And he really changed the way Badger players thought about Badger facilities and Camp Randall in the stadium and the environment. And he just instilled this pride, in this confidence in wis Wisconsin Badger football. And you can go back and look at it. You know, it took a couple of years, but I can remember him going to Rose Bulls and Wisconsin was just big, tough, physical, a little bit like Barry Alvarez, Oh h'sba A lot of confidence. And I think that's what and I think players become the coach. And I think, you know, Detroit a lot of belief. Say what you want about the Chargers end of the season, but the defense was tough and physical, and I think dan Quinn has implemented that. That's why he's going forward on fourth down. It's like, hey, we've got nothing to lose. It's in Tampa. Baker Mayfield's a veteran, I got a rookie quarterback I'm going for it house money here and I love it high pressure situations. And obviously, and I had noted this multiple times. You know, there's kind of a rule when you get a rookie quarterback is downplay it in camp, like you know, hey, it's going to take a time. Let's reset expectations. When dan Quinn and Cliff Kingsbury came out in camp and we're like, yeah, this kid's unbelievable. Already knows the playbook. I mean, it's unbelievable. What a leader he is.
You're like, and dan Quinn's been around the block, and dan Quinn was just heaping praise on Jaden Daniels in camp before preseason games, and you're thinking, man, this kid must be really, really special.
And you read some of those early DC media reports i'd bed anyway in the Athletic or in print, and you're like, man, this kid is tearing it up. It is camp. But it's not that Washington doesn't McLaurin. Terry mclaurin's a great player, and they've got some defensive linemen.
They have talent.
That's not make it. The Commanders don't have talent, but it's it's all centered around, an aggressive coach and a remarkable rookie quarterback. And I've noted this a few times before. I grew up in the seventies and eighties and Washington was a football power and there was like a thirty year waiting list for tickets. This is a win starved football community. DC loves it's NFL football, and I just welcome back. This is great. Detroit is a big lift, but I think we're all watching an all timer in Jaden Daniels. Mobility, release, accuracy, twitchiness. I mean, just to be this good in the fourth quarter and on fourth down and on third down in a playoff game, you just don't see this. You get all the upside occasional picks, but you bake that in for somebody his age, you bake it in. What a performance. I mean, this is the first Commander playoff win in twenty years. But they had talent for years, but they were so poorly owned and so poorly run and so poorly coached, like they had players. It just upstairs was such a chaotic zoo. And the line is out. The Lions are minus eight and a half against the Commanders. That's a big number, but so was Buffalo. Over Denver, and so was Baltimore over Pittsburgh. I'm not sure which we id lean on that to go into Tampa and win with something else, finally got ourselves a close playoff game. I'll walk off point and for Tampa. Hell of a year. Baker Mayfield earned every bit of that contract. One of the more underrated underplay paid play in the league. I mean Baker is He is one of the most underpaid players in the league right now and earned every penny of his contract. Tip of the cap. Great year, rough loss, but you may have lost to the next great superstar quarterback in the NFL. If there's a positive NFL playoffs. We're talking about NFL playoffs, you bet we are. Get in on the action at DraftKings sports Book, an official sports betting partner of the NFL. Scoring touchdowns is a key to winning in the NFL playoffs, and the key tou scoring big is betting on him at DraftKings, the number one place to bet touchdowns. If you're ready to place your first bet, make it really simple. A player scoring a touchdown, go to Draft Kings sports Books app, download it, make your pick. Here's another reason to watch your favorite players crush it on the playoffs. If you're a new customer, you bet five bucks. That's it, five bucks, get two hundred in bonus bets instantly by betting just five bucks. So score big Draftking sports Book during the playoffs. Download the app. Use the code co c l I N that will get you two hundred bucks in bonus bet So if you want two hundred dollars in bonus bets, you got to put in the code colin only on Draftking Sportsbook. The Crown is yours.
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Not as many games and lopsided games. But John Millicoff and I are here to discuss Philadelphia's win over Green Bay, Denver getting hammered by Buffalo despite scoring first. We'll get to Mike Rable to the Patriots and Mike Tomlin's disaster against the Ravens. Let's start with Philadelphia's sort of dominating win from the opening kickoff that was fumbled. You Packer fans grumbling about that, You know, John, as I looked at the weekend, Buffalo much better than Denver, Baltimore, much better than Pittsburgh, Philly, much better than Green Bay. If you go to last year's wild card weekend as well, there were some really lobsided scores. And this is something I've hit on a lot as the league, and I've been on this for about three years. As the league has tilted the rules towards the offense. Quarterback now is the only way seemingly to win. The better quarterback and today Jalen Hurts wasn't great, but Jordan Love, like he was in college, was reckless. I do feel like this year, more than any I can remember, it had an NBA feel, four or five six teams at the top, special a pretty small middle, and a bunch of garbage in the back end. I mean, were you surprised by Philadelphia controlling this game over Green Bay?
Well, Jalen was not very good, and granted he hadn't played in a while because of the concussion, and he looked I would say, you know, before they kind of hit their stride, their offense had struggled passing wise, and he wasn't good. The problem is Jordan Love was atrocious. Jordan Love saw justin Herbert's effort and tried to duplicate it because I mean, he throwing those interceptions all over the place, and I know he's banged up, but that offense was I thought if they would have played not the game they played last year against the Cowboys, but just had a solid offensive performance, they would have been right in it. Yeah, and he kind of he shot him right out of the game really really quick, because I think how often during the McCarthy era and then even during the laflor era with with Rogers early on, the defense often let the Packers down. They were joke on him. Ye're Actually they played.
Pretty good today and they kept him in the game.
Their offense was really really bad. I'm not shocked I mean Bo Nicks on the road rookie quarterback in Buffalo Wilson in that performance. I think we both saw that coming. I would say the Herbert performance was, you know, it's one of the worst games you'll ever see him play for sure.
Well, and I talked about this yesterday in the pod. They don't have a number one receiver, they're number two. Palmer was hurt. Their best receiver, Keenan Allen's a bear, you know. I mean, it's what happens in these playoff games. Young road quarterback falls behind, you know, starts making throws he may hold back on in the regular season because he knows it's the last game of the year. I mean, I thought Jordan Love made some throws today that felt like, hey, I got to get some juice here, I got to make something happen. I don't know if he makes those throws three weeks ago, four weeks ago. So I kind of defend quarterbacks young quarterbacks who, By the way, Jordan Love's always been a bit reckless. He's always been more farv than he has Aaron Rodgers. And I'll give the Packers credit, Xavier McKinney. They went out and spent some money on Josh Jacobs. You know, green Bay historically in the free agent market doesn't take a lot of swings. I thought they did. I think they need a pass rusher. I think that's and I could. You know, we'll see what they do at corner. I don't feel bad about this for green Bay. I don't. I think they're young. I don't think they have Philadelphia's roster. They were on the road that didn't play well down the stretch like I thought Philly would win. It was a weird game. I mean green Bay was out of rhythm, out of sorts offensively. But I don't feel like if you're a Packer fan, you look at this hell at one point they were down six and were being totally dominated.
Totally well. I mean, listen, even if some miracle they would have been able to kind of get back in this game, they had lost half their team. They would have had no chance to play anybody after this game with all their injuries. And one thing that really stands out when you just look at this weekend, but specifically that you know when it comes to the Eagles, they spend a lot of money on Vic Fangio and that defense. As the season has gone on has looked fantastic. I mean the two young defensive backs they signed Zach Bond. He played a different position. They moved him to line like stand up middle linebacker. He became a first team All Pro. That happens when you hire one of the best defensive coordinators in the NFL. And you know, look at Miami, they were complaining that Vic Fangio was an asshole and demanded too much of them. Yeah you think, Philly, I mean, come on, I mean, Mike McDaniel. I don't know if you saw the story last week. He said, I can't find these guys enough. They just don't show up on time. Meanwhile, Philly y'urned for that accountability and look what it shows now their defense. Listen the playoffs. Sometimes your quarterback is just gonna play like crap or have rough stretches. Your defense can carry you. Defense the history of this league, even as rules have changed, the best defense is win in January's no different college football. You gotta have big time defensive plays in these big games because you're playing All Pro Hall of Fame level guys on offense.
Yeah, I mean, I think Also Philadelphia take out the concussion for Jalen Hurts. From week four on, Philadelphia was humming. They weren't very good in the first quarter, but they finally got good in the first quarter late in the season. They took a ten tozhing lead in this one. But all year along with Philly from about week four on, we were like, God, they're awful in the first quarter, but they're really good. We said this two years ago about Philadelphia. We said it the first ten weeks of last year, like for seven weeks of last year. If you go to Philadelphia over the last three years, there have been stretches where they looked like the forty nine ers four years ago. They just have more good players.
Well, think about this. If you just said who are the best players on Philadelphia's offense, you would list You would probably include some offensive lineman before you even got to Dallas Goddard. You'd be like a guy seven or eight. He made a play tonight that looked like a high school kid that's going to Alabama Ohio State would make you know in a high school game. And again that's by far. Saquon Jalen the two wide receivers. He is their fifth weapon and he's a Pro Bowl level ten. I mean that play. It does sometimes in the playoffs. Obviously x's nose play a big role, and the best coaches are usually playing in these games. But sometimes you get a one on one against another guy and you shot with Jacobs like the cream of the crop rises in January, and that played by Dallas Goddard. I mean wow. I mean, if that's your fifth option on offense, good luck trying to stop them.
Yeah, And I think you see it in college and you see it in the pros. You know, in college, what schools have better recruiters, Ryan Day and more transfer portal money, Ohio State. You know, go look at who's left Marcus Freeman, Ryan Day and Chip Kelly, pretty good staffs. And then you go in the NFL and who has the best general managers? Well, Kansas City, Brett Veech, Howie Roseman, a lot of that. Detroit, by the way, has been on like a four year run.
Baltimore, Yep.
You start looking around this league, and I mean Philadelphia in the end, I think we've felt this for three years. When he had Shane Stichen, they were good enough to win the Super He had a couple of bad picks at coordinators. They righted the ship this year. For all my misgivings about Nick Sirianni, this freaking roster is good. I mean, God, Slay today had a great pick, and I mean he's a guy now that's fallen sort of, you know, off the out of the front page of the sports section in Philly because they've got these two Mitchell and the other corner. So I mean, Philadelphia, when Slay can be like the third most talked about corner you have, I just think Philadelphia again. I look at Green Bay and I think to myself, you know what, if you're gonna lose, You're gonna lose twenty two to ten to Philadelphia on a game that Jordan loved, didn't play well. It's not a terrible day for the Packers. They're not call equipped to beat this team in Philly.
No, I no, I agree. I think if you're a Packer fan, especially, I think you've kind of come to grips with it down the stretch. But I think big picture, they got to figure Love out a little bit. I mean, I was high on him after last year. This year was a little bit of a roller coaster ride. Obviously, the injuries played up, but this reckless nature. I mean, but far as one of the greatest players in the history of the league. For like a ten year stretch, you want three straight MVPs, you can't just you don't just get to play like Brett Forth. You know, you gotta corral yourself a little bit. And that's why they went out and got Josh Jacobs right just to just kind of I would say, take a little pressure off of Jordan Love. But man, I mean, at one point in time on a second interception, he had thrown two last year against the Niners, and then to this game in the first half. That was four interceptions through his last six quarters in the playoffs. You can't win like that. I'd rather have a guy playing like crap, like Jalen Hurts, who's not turning the ball over. At least I just punt and play defense.
By the way, there's a play that happened in this game with about a minute left where Saquon Barkley got a handoff, could have broken for a sixty seventy yard touchdown, and instead he slid to end the game essentially, and it really states I'll tell you something, Saquon Barkley has been such a class guy in this league in New York. He comes out smelling like a rose when he gets traded. He didn't complain about, you know, not breaking the all time single season record that slide at the end of the game against Green Bay. I got to tell you something. There are not many running backs that I can remember. I loved Walter Payton just as a guy, as a human. I love McCaffrey. I've met Christian a couple of times. I by the way, can we just admit this. This is a Saquon Barkley led team. I mean they Jalen Hurts went two quarters without a completion. This is Saquon Barkley's team. And by the way, I love it. He is really If somebody gave him MVP and it'll go to a quarterback, I just there's everything about him. His toughness, his elusiveness, his intelligence, his class. I just think he is such and And the truth is, Jalen Hurts I don't think I think he's got enough self confidence. I don't think it bothers him at all. I don't think it bother's Lamar Jackson that Derek Henry gets all the flowers. I think it's just a really cool thing when star quarterbacks are fans of the star running back.
Well. I think one thing with the Eagles specifically is is Jalen. I think Lamar is more of a little He's got more raw raw to him in terms of outspoken leadership inside those walls. That's not Jalen's thing. And last year, think of who retired on their team. Jason Kelsey, one of the greatest players in the history of the franchise, and Fletcher Cox. I mean, those are two guys that are going to be in the Ring of Honor that were the leaders on the team. So you replace him, like Saquon Barkley. One thing I don't think Howie gets enough credit, And I think he's learned this is like you know, he was pigeonholed early as being like an analytical GM like a Daryl Morey. Daryl Mory doesn't give a shit about character cohesion. He just puts the best players together, right. How he has learned to value that greatly. And Saquon Barkley, obviously he has to have the ability when you're gonna pay a guy money, But from the off the field character stuff seamless fit and he fills a void that they lacked once Kelsey retires, so you know that this team has hit him in Brandon Graham, who's nominated for the Man of the Year. I forget his injury off the oh he tears his shoulder is out, so he's just gone, and having Saquon around there is a really, really big deal. I mean, think about the last game of the year, he has a chance to break the record and we can say it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean anything to me. I think they had already won, but that would have been something. I think Saquan be like, hey man, this has been my cole career has been a little underachieving, given that I played with the mess I want. Didn't say a people didn't say a word. It's like, yeah, whatever I need to do. And he remember earlier in the season when they wanted him to like, hey, you want to break the record against the Giants. He's like, now, let the other guys run it. And that's in this sport with so much going on. I don't think he gets enough credit for the guy. We know how great of a player is And I thought, Brady, you know one thing with to be a great running back, you don't need elite, top end speed. It's not a him and Derrick Henry. You know, he compared him to a It's like if you could pitch and hit, because I can live with twenty yard runs all day long, but at any moment him and Henry could go seventy eighty yarts.
Yeah. I think there is something about Philadelphia. They do things that dysfunctional organizations do and it works for them, I think. And it may be just the city of Philadelphia. It's such a glue city. You know. Washington has the political power, LA's got the famous people, New York's got the money. Boston's got a lot of history, Dallas has a lot of flair.
You know.
Philadelphia has kind of a small town feel for a big city. Like everybody in that city, anybody in my life. I've been doing this for a long time. It is amazing how often I'm in an airport, on a ski slope, at a restaurant anywhere that I live, and they're Eagle fans and Phillies fans. They're just something about the loyalty they've been, you know, they they've had so much that's recently the Eagle has been so good now for a stretch and the Phillies are very good. The Sixers are still disappointing, but their sports teams are pretty damn good. They went long stretches of just being like Chicago is now or they just got beat up. There's something about Philadelphia, the city like there's it's almost like the fans keep you in line. You know, embiid you know fans. Fans aren't gonna mess with that bullshit, Like if you don't play, fans can turn on you very quickly. And I don't know, I just I just look at Philadelphia stars. I can go back to Mike Schmidt, Ron Jaworski. It just there's a toughness and a unique kind of I don't know how to describe it. When I when I watched this Philadelphia team, it feels like a Philadelphia team. Young stars, stars in their prime, older stars, and they all just gel. They all kind of get along. And I I didn't think Jalen played well today. I'm not sure he's a hu undred percent healthy, but I thought that game. Honestly, if you could bet a football game after one series, I was like, Yep, Philadelphia, I could. Green Bay was out of their element. They look rattled. I'm like, oh, this is over. This game I feel I felt five out ten. I felt that with Baltimore and Pittsburgh, it's like, Okay, this is done. I can tell you right now Pittsburgh's not ready to play. It's time to look at this weekend's tastiest matchup. In this week's Sunday Night food Ball, brought to you by Uber Eats. Okay, let's pivot to Buffalo thirty one Denver seven. I don't think this surprised anybody. A lot of the Sharps looked at some Sean Payton stats historically, but I think we've both said this. Denver lost by twenty four. I'd still rather be the Broncos than the Pittsburgh Steelers. I've got a great offensive coach and a quarterback who's going to be a hell of a player. We'll get to Pittsburgh later. But I kind of looked at this Denver lost and I thought, listen, man, this was not a winnable game. This Buffalo team. Kencaid's now been added. I think James Cook is terrific. Josh Allen right now is playing as well as he's ever played in his life. He's getting very, very good protection. I don't see a lot of flaws with Buffalo.
Do you No. I mean, I think when the schedule came out, when we found out who was playing who, we were destined to get Buffalo hole hosting Baltimore, and it played out there pretty seamlessly. I think Buffalo I think they have more pressure on him in this upcoming game than Baltimore given how well their offense James Cook has changed their offense. I mean, early on in Josh's career, they did not have a runner like that, and he.
Just smells the end zone. He feels it.
How about Khalil Shakir, I mean that stat they said today that no one has more yards after contact beside Jamar Chase than him. I mean, he has been fantastic. Keyan Coleman that the Florida State rookie has really come on as the season and there is a calmness to Josh's game. I think both Josh and Lamar I think, you know, for guys that are runners and make these just spectacular, all time great plays are so under control. It's always what Patrick has had and he had it earlier. In those two guys, it always felt like Mahomes from day one, was just completely under control. Even when chaotic situations. You watch those two guys, it's like, even when chaos happens, it's like, I don't feel like they're freaking out as they're scrambling around to make a play. I mean they are. They are in the peak of their powers right now. And like, how does a rookie quarterback And I'm sure you saw the stat about Sean Payton's record against bald coaches, it was it John Paidon. I just think a rookie quarterback on the road, they were gonna need a historic defensive performance. And playing at Buffalo, I mean that place, do you know? It kind of hit me today. And there's been a lot of great games at Lambeau as well. The one thing cool about the NFL is some of these smaller cities. For as big as it's, how fun does a home game at Buffalo feel in the playoffs? The buzz in that place? I mean, I would imagine we don't have that. We're recording this even before the Sunday night game that's probably going to be a night game next week. That place is going to be ripping and rocking and cold, and the snow and the fans.
Well, one of the of the of the many reasons football is king and there's about eight In the NBA, there are clearly glamour cities where the stars want to play. In Major League Baseball, there's about six teams that can win a World Series based on payroll. Think about the dominant teams in the NFL right now, Buffalo, Kansas City, Baltimore, Green Bay. Those are four of the winningest teams. The New York teams are in the toilet. Washington was for ten to fifteen years, and the one big market team is Philadelphia and they've just been They're exceedingly well run, and I think that's just part of the appeal. I gotta tell you, I am such a big fan of Kansas City and Baltimore. I can't lose this year. I would love to see Lamar make a super I would love to see Josh Allen make it. I mean, the AFC division winners and the AFC Final four is the same as last season, and I don't think it's gonna change. I think Kansas City, Baltimore, and Buffalo are going and I should say I think Houston's gonna mostly win their division. C. J. Stroud was down this year, the O line wasn't as good. I think the AFC. I don't think there's gonna be a lot of change. It's gonna look like college football. You're gonna see about four names, five names every year.
I know, you know, listen, I mean Beach and in Andy. Their resume speaks for herself. Same with Baltimore. I do think Buffalo's shorter. I do think we have to throw them in the mix of just how well run they are. Obviously quarterback led operation, but they transitioned. Everyone thought they were cutting a bunch of guys. A lot of people picked the Jets to win the division. They had a hat and teacher game like basically in Thanksgiving, and they have become the patriots now of that division five straight times. They are I mean a huge part of this upcoming game is they are the two seed. I mean, these home games in the playoffs. We just saw the Chargers go on the road and get smacked. It really really matters. And obviously Baltimore had kind of a weird regular season with some losses. Buffalo handled business and they're hosting this game for a reason. And I think, you know, the I don't know if much separates them and Baltimore at least they have been doing it, not as long, but in terms of like they're the two elite second tier teams in the AFC. They just haven't been able to beat Mahomes, but they're kicking everyone else's ass.
Yeah, twenty eight unanswered points at one point, I mean, it was just and it was Alan to Kincaid, Alan to Curtis Samuel, Alan to a running back in the end zone. I mean, Josh has just become an unbelievable player.
You know.
I feel like Buffalo's a little Phil Mickelson and Tigers Prime where sometimes it just and I look at it and I think to myself, God, Now I do think Buffalo is gonna beat Baltimore. I do I think at home they're gonna beat them. I don't know if Kansas City, Kansas City will take care of business. I mean, I Kansas City is gonna beat Houston. I may be a sucker. I think this is the year for Buffalo to get to the Super Bowl. I think this is the best version there's there's just if they can stay healthy. There's nothing I don't like about them. There's nothing I can't find a flaw with the team the game. Their defense is not great that game against the Rams when Stafford went out and down the field. They're not a great defensive team. But Kansas City is not a great offensive team. And and now I do I mean, do you like Buffalo against Baltimore?
I would say, no team down the stretch beside the Chiefs who flipped a switch is playing better than Baltimore. I mean there are. Last year they were the number one overall seat and had the best defense since like the Pete Carroll peak days, this offense is dramatically better than last year because Lamar's better. They added Derrick Henry, who somehow does not age. I mean, he's in the peak of his powers running for a hundred and ninetyees.
What's funny is he wasn't great his first two years in the league, and now he got better as an old running back, which is is the opposite of what happens for star running backs.
It's crazy. Mark Andrews is now back. Looks fantastic. Yeah. Bateman, who they've kind of ridden out over the course of his career, has turned into a really good player. If say Flowers comes back, I do think guy for guy. If we just say the quarterbacks cancel each other out. I think Baltimore is better than Buffalo, but home field, there's gonna be a lot of Listen, this is one of the best games of the year. I mean, it doesn't get any better than this, And I would lean slight lean Baltimore. But I'm rooting for one of these two teams unless Andy Viach. I know all these guys. I do think it would be cool. Part of philis Phil never took down Tiger in a big moment. You know, it's Kansas City just gonna kick the crap out of Houston and then beat this team and then just be back in the Super Bowl and then everyone's gonna pick them and they're gonna win another super Bowl. Football shouldn't be that easy. You know. It wasn't even for New England, right. It never happens three three peat. Usually most of the time you get bounced. I actually think Houston the one thing you saw Houston Demiko. If you did a coach draft from scratch, he'd go in the top ten. He is an elite defensive mind. He's an elite leader.
C J.
Stroud finally got his twenty twenty three mojo back you.
Know, it's funny CJ. At home. I think he's now like thirteen and five or twelve and five and one hundred passerwaight, he actually is a much different quarterback at home. I don't think there's any question for sure.
Nico Collins is one of the most talented young players in the league. They have two, they have one pass rusher. They just gave a two year contract for fifty million dollars and they guaranteed every penny and Danelle Hunter, who was who was kind of working Joe Alt yesterday at moments tough first matchup on Anderson is one of the best players to ever played for Safe and got drafted third overall. I mean they got some high, high end guys and a real coach. Now we just saw the map. One advantage for Andy is they literally just played him, so they had already game planned for him three weeks ago. They only have to watch these last couple of games. I've been around Andy Reid, he's been in the office these last two days. They're already on it. I mean, this is it's a tough spot for Houston, but you watch them, you go got it. They got If CJ is gonna play like that they have more talent or every bit. The talent is the Chargers, and they're high end players are so high you think they could give a game. Remember last year against Baltimore for a half, they gave him a game. Then they ran out of juice. I would imagine I haven't seen the line. Probably a seven point spread for the Chiefs. I would guess someone.
I think it's I think it's a steps league. I think I went into this season saying about green Bay they're too young, they're a year away. That bears itself out watching today, and I think Houston the same thing. I still think Houston needs another draft. I think they're an inconsistent football team because they're not a team that if they suffer injuries in certain spots. Their old line wasn't as good this year good, so they're not a super Bowl. I think green Bay and Houston are good enough to win a playoff game. They're not good enough to win two. Certainly not good enough to get to a super Bowl. But you know there's there's CG.
CJ is a better play. I would I would take CG over Love.
I would too at this point. Absolutely, that was this week Sunday Night food Ball brought to you by Uber Eats as the official on demand delivery partner of the NFL. Uber Eats use them every week. Has the best game day deals all season long. Order now for game day I do we do great company. Let's let's go into the Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh stuff. So I thought it was interesting. This may have been the moment dan Orlowsky at ESPN as the Steelers just look unprepared and no juice. I mean, the one thing about Tomlin, he was always known as an elite motivator, the best underdog coach in the NFL statistically for a decade, they had no juice. None. It was almost as if they weren't concentrating. Dan Orlofsky had a breakdown of some tape in the first half from the offensive line. They it was brutal, it was embarrassing, you like guards pulling into each other, and the O line has been This has been my criticism for a lot of defensive coaches. Mike Tomlin, Pete Carroll, you know McVeigh and Andy Reid can fix an offensive line and an off season, and he's done it multiple times. These defensive coaches really struggle with it. And I watched this offensive line. It's they've drafted it. They've got some good talent. They couldn't create a run game, but it was it was Baltimore going into a game without Zay Flowers and having a fifteen straight runs and still doing it. And I think Pittsburgh's got very conservative owners. They're not big spenders. That's always been the reputation. As you are an eagle scout, Steelers always had a reputation they didn't take as many big swing as it was draft and develop. I think they need innovation. I would say Ben Johnson feels like a good fit here. Do you think they have the kahonas to let go of Mike Tomlin?
Well, I don't. And you and I have been talking this about for a year. We said it last year and it doesn't even feel like they entertained it. So I guess another year they should entertain it. I don't expect them to, but eventually you're going to get the line of diminishing returns where his value is going to start to go down. Yeah, right and right now because of think of the desperate team from the Jets to the Jags to the Bears, his value is pretty high, Like you could trade him for valuable draft picks. You're a couple of years away from that not being the case. Like, you can't just keep going about this because think about this Mike Tomlin, like you said, he's a defensive guy and known as just one of the best leaders in the NFL. So even if we removed but if you're Tomlin's defense attorney, like they can't fix the quarterback, Okay, I will remove the offense. Let's just talk defense and effort. Well, you're coming out against your bitter rivalry and Herbertreet now are questioning have they quit on Mike Tomlin in.
The first half?
Have they quit? So his whole thing was like effort and leading the boys and the troops into battle. Well that clearly went away, and their defense has been atrocious down the stretch. I mean, guys, wide open. It felt like Lamar Jackson. It was like a preseason practice. I mean, it's like, what are we doing? You could have called the game at halftime, he really could, and they went with Russell Wilson. Anytime that you are celebrating that our quarterback room only cost us a couple million dollars, it's probably and you got rid of the guy that you just drafted twentieth. Overall, I mean we probably saw this coming. I mean as it got cold, Colin Russell really came back to earth. Now, he hit a couple of big plays in the second half, but the game was already out.
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Wouldn't you if you're Ben Johnson, And clearly he's still apprehensive about Like you know, he's very worried about taking a job that's gonna ruin his career. Don't blame him because he sees all these other guys take jobs and just derails their career. He's got a great thing going on. I think he makes like five six million dollars in Detroit with an offense full of Pro bowlers. Well, you can trade Mike Tomlin if you're Pittsburgh. You can take a young coordinator, a young guy like they did with Mike Tomlin and put him in a position to succeed, and then it just gives you some life. The other problem is maybe bottoming out wouldn't be the worst thing ever. The forty nine ers this year sucked. They kind of need some high draft picks. Why because their roster's really expensive. It's actually a healthy thing. The way it played out for him. If they get it right, winning nine to ten games every year and just getting curb stomped in the first round is that they're making no progress. You know, it's impossible to get a quarterback. It's hard. You gotta hope, cross your fingers, hope you can get a TJ. Watt and pick twenty two. That happens once every five years. So your draft is difficult, and you're just seeing a team that they take a lot of flyers for character and eventually like Antonio Brown, yeah, okay, you get a Hall of Famer, and then you get George Pickens, who it's like, yeah that guy.
Team Well, I couldn't tell you the last time Chase Claypool, I couldn't tell you the last time they had a receiver room without an attitude, Deontae Johnson. It's just it's what they do. And it's funny because Tomlin doesn't get those guys on defense, but it's almost as if, hey, I'll let the offensive guys worry about the drama. Defensively, he doesn't get a lot of attitude, but the dape So it's again it's the lack of urgency at quarterback, the lack of development offensive line. All that stuff is obvious, but when you see the lack of effort, it's like, Mike, that's kind of your hallmark. That would be like, that would be like Kyle Shanahan can't run the ball. It's like, well, dude, that's kind of that's kind of who you are. You know, if the run stops in San Francisco, then you got real questions. I think it's time to make a move.
I listen, I would trade him one hundred and if I was Mike. I understand. I've said this over and over. Being the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, if you're going to be a coach, is awesome. Like, I don't blame him for not wanting to leave that post. But we saw specifically with Andy Reid, he got a fresh lease on life and it changed the course of his career. Because it invigorates you, it's lights a fire under you. It kind of puts the chip back on your shoulder. I don't know if you saw Jimmy Johnson throw out a trade for Mike McCarthy, a Pittsburgh guy. To me, if I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers. I just let Jerry resign, Mike the Ben Johnson thing take a swing and listen. It might not work out, but the loyalty commendable. But you get to a point where it's like the loyalty thing feels like it's run out. This is not where you're You're now kind of an embarrassment. Tomins whole thing is the standard is the standard. So the standard is this is back to back years double did you blowouts by the second tier of the AFC listen to this than.
You If cam Ward or Shaduere Sanders lands in Cleveland, Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Shaduur Sanders, you will have the fourth best quarterback in the division. That is just that's a that's a death sentence for a coach. You're just you're I mean in Sefanski. With a good college quarterback, a lot of energy, youthful, healthy, you'll keep your eye on you know. We just saw what bo Nix did with an offensive coach. We saw what Sam Darnold did with Kevin O'Connell. I just I think if you just look down the road, this is not getting better. There is no great quarterback on the horizon for Pittsburgh.
Well, if Joe Burrow's healthy, how often are they going to go nine to eight? So if you played this season over again, the Steelers are not in are not the right the like the Bengals are in their spot right. We saw the last game of the season when they played it, it was nineteen to seven going into the fourth quarter. Now, the thing with Cleveland, if we just let's just assume cam Ward goes one. Yeah, I cannot imagine prime Time allows his son to go to Cleveland. I can't. He's already kind of hinted that, you know, he would go, you know, Archie Manning free like I think he would would draw a line in the stands. Though, with Deshaun's career looking over, Shador would start immediately on a team that has a bunch of talent. But I have a hard time seeing Primetime allowing that one to have.
And now for our next segment, Whiskey Business brought to you by Green River Whiskey, the official whiskey of the Colin Coward Podcast. It's good stuff. When you want to enjoy life, simple pleasures, reach for Green River Whiskey. All right, let's pivot to something that we saw coming. I talked about it on my show Thursday and Friday. I thought the Patriots was the best job because of the stability at ownership and Drake May even Joe Milton is a backup. The quarterback room is set, they're young, they're inexpensive. You got a good owner here. I was thinking about this, John about once every two or three years, somebody gets a job and you know it's going to work. Andy Reid the Kansas City, Jim hardbought of the Chargers. Sean Payton to Denver, Dan Quinn to a lesser degree to Washington with Cliff Kingsbury, Mike Frable to New England. He's gonna bring up his GM buddy from Tennessee. He's gonna get his OC this one. And then also conversely, eber Fluse in Chicago, Dennis Allen to New Orleans. Some shit doesn't sound like it's gonna work. The minute the inkstry, I think Vrabel is gonna get I think this team's gonna get good really quickly. And I'm and I'm serious, I think they'll I think there'll be an eight. When I predicted that Denver this year was going to be better than people think. I think Drake may with a run game with Rabel, I think, I think this is a great choice. I don't see it failing.
I would say this, he also gets to take over. You know. It turns out Gerrod Mayo, while he was a high level player and a team captain, was like the Jim tom Sula of coaches. I mean, you read some of these articles, it was pretty embarrassing what was going on there. So you take over an operation that is just desperate to be led. And one thought I had when I was doing the reaction videos and podcasts last night, do you know who the big loser in all this is? Like? The Bills are good and they're not going anyway anywhere, But how about Miami and the Jets? I mean, Miami has major question marks with the coach and the direction and just the accountability in that franchise. And I don't know if you've seen the list of the Jets interviews, They've interviewed seven hundred and seventy five people. It just feels like every day there's a new GM or coach, Like what is going on here? So those two franchises, to me, with Rabel going there, got no shot got no shot. The Bills. Listen, they're way better and they got Josh Allen. But I think the Miami Dolphins and the Jets got to be like, this is not an ideal situation for us.
Think about this. The best coaching candidate last year Jim Hartbaugh went to the Chargers primarily for one reason, Justin Herbert. And this year the best coaching candidate is Mike Rabel primarily for one or two reasons. Takes that job justin Herbert komp Drake May, big mobile, nice arm, smart kid, doesn't you know, totally focused. I think Drake May actually showed signs with a bad coaching staff and a pretty weak receiving corps. Polk didn't do anything. The receiver from Washington. I think he's got some kids developed more slowly. I don't know. I look at Vrabel in New England. It feels very much hardbought Chargers, Peyton, Denver, dan Quinn, Washington. I think Josh McDaniels may take that job. I think it's gonna work. They just need another back, another receiver. They need juice on offense. But they have some nice defensive pieces.
And I think clearly the crafts their relationship with him. I mean, Belichick has battled disc always claimed that they were sneaky, cheap more than it was him. Yeah at times. And this is a guy with a huge person that if he wants something, I do think they will acquiesce. I'd forgotten about this, but he led the type. They were the number one overall seed the year. Remember Tannyhill ended up throwing three or four picks in that game and the Bengals beat him. But you look back on these Titans teams, You're like, how the hell did he have them that competitive? With Ryan Tannehill, AJ Brown, Derrek Henry. Those two guys were good, but tanny Hill was never better than what the fifteenth best quarterback in the NFL. Well, well, and some solid defensive pieces, but it's not like they had Lawrence Taylor and Ed Reid on the squad.
And when they let AJ Brown go, Remember Mike Rabel came to Yeah, he went to the podium and just said yeah. I mean he didn't even hide his displeasure. I mean he just went to the podium and said, yeah, this sucks. Were so's It's like he knew it. That was the end of Mike Vrabel I've text him a couple of times. I'm not going to get in too much, but you know this is somebody that had options. It's like Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh was going to find I mean, Harbaugh said, yeah, I'll go up against Sean Payton, I'll go up against Andy Reid.
I don't care.
I need a quarterback in college you can win. I mean, look at our quarterbacks now, Will Howard at Ohio State, quinn Ewers, Riley Leonard. College football is really about the roster, it really is. You can have a b quarterback in the NFL.
You can't.
And I think Drake May is gonna pop. I think by the end of next year, mid to by Thanksgiving and we're gonna look at Drake Man go. You know, they found a fifteen year NFL quarterback.
I also think what makes Vrabel unique is why so many of these Belichick guys have failed is all they know is Bill and they just copy everything he does. Vrabel took I think the best parts about Bill and I saw Taylor Luwan go on a rant like Bill used to like question guys in a team meeting offensive guys about defensive stuff or what's the guy at the cafeteria's name. I mean, what's who's the guy on the picture in the hallway. He would just have these and it was Belichick's thing, and then every guy that the McDaniels, the Patricia, the Florest, they all tried to copy it. And it doesn't work. It doesn't feel authentic. And Vrabel is able to integrate I think the best parts of the accountability, of the discipline and the detail, but also the personality of just a guy. You know, I played in this league. I'm a tough guy. I can relate to you as a human being. We could. I'm probably not gonna have a beer with you, but you know, I'm just a guy. And I think those other guys really struggle with that. And I think Rab will never coach. You know, he's noticed about he just played for and then he went off to coach for Urban and then Bill O'Brien. So I think he's got a pretty unique perspective there. And that's why I was so high on Dable, Right, he had coached under Belichick, but then he went to Sabin, and he went to Sean mcdermoty. He saw this of other stuff, but clearly they haven't figured out the quarterback, and that's just a huge advantage. I think that I think they knew this was the higher what a month ago? Like, yeah, you know when when when the Patriots released eight paragraph statement two minutes after the final game. It's pretty clear that thing was written not on Saturday afternoon.
So listen, the games this weekend were pretty lousy, a lot of blowouts, ugly games. So John and I are going to spend about twenty minutes talking about something here. And if you're just into football and nothing more, that's fine. But John until recently lived in California his entire life, and I've lived here now for close to a decade. And you know, over the last four or five days, I have watched an area of Los Angeles burn to the ground to a large extent, an area I lived right next to and have many friends in who have been displaced. My agents, my company has been a little displaced, just people that mean the world to me. And so the last couple of days have been brutal. And this is not really going to be a political discussion. I said this yesterday. I voted for Rick Caruso. I would do it again. I think he's the right person for the right time, especially going forward. But what I watched over the last four days now, I will say this, eighty five mile an hour winds did not allow for choppers or planes for a day and a half to drop water. Combined with the fact it was a hurricane and instead of rain it had fire, this was going to cause immense damage, regardless who was mayor and some political decisions. But it has been first, the media in Los Angeles has been remarkable. The local TV stations CBSNBCABC, Fox, the quality of the photo journalism, the reporting, the helicopter pilots. It's been better than CNN. It's been better than network television. So tip of the cap to Los Angeles media. It has been astounding. People are up all night. You can turn it on two in the morning.
They're on.
So I want to start with that. The local media and Los Angeles has been better than the network coverage. It has been remarkable. It's been awe inspiring. Somebody who was in local for you know, thirteen fourteen years. But I wanted to start with you, John, because listen, the fire was devastating. This was not a fire with the winds that was going to burn down six houses. It however, exploded to a level and it's become very political. As somebody who has lived in California until recently for your entire life and your family, what do you make of the polity, the political nature of the argument, and sort of your thoughts on what you've watched.
Yeah, I mean, I've spent thirty five of my forty years of life in California and mainly in north of the California, a little bit on the Central Coast. But I would say this fires have been a big issue for us, you know, when I lived in the Bay Area, in Santa Rosa, in the nap Areas, and obviously Tahoe a couple of years ago. I do think there's an element of in these states. You know, people say over politicized. I would say the ethos of San Francisco in LA is very political. Yeas driven that way, and when it comes to regulation, over regulation in people that run these things that are faceless, Right, Gavin's got a face, he's the governor, but these people, a lot of these people in these environmental boards, no one knows who any of these people are. And I do think the brush thing and I saw it in Tahoe is these environmental groups refuse to let you clean up anything. Yes, I don't know when this began, but it's happened for a long time. And these things we know, these fires and it's dry. I've never lived in La Obviously, Santa Ana wins because I was thinking about, like, this is about the time, right when Kobe gott in the helicopter crash, And wasn't that the fog and the wind and you guys get this weather that it's just very difficult in those hills. It's hard.
It's crazy. I was gonna. I lived in Brentwood for a while. The reason I didn't live deep into Palisades was access. I always thought if I had an accident or there was a fire, nobody could get to me. You're up these small, windy canyon roads. And I always told Anna, I'm like, this is I age. I think about stuff, you know, well, getting into an accident, get having a heart attack, It's like who could get to me?
And Lake Tahoe is a lot like that. And when they have those fires a couple of years ago, everyone was sitting ducks because you got one lane roads, it's windy roads. You can't go that fast. But to me, the element and listen, I come from generation of farmers that deal with these environmental groups for different things. They're very, very tough to deal with. And I do think I can't speak to like, you know, the winds in northern California are nowhere near eighty. I've never been a hardmunt our wins either. I do know that these brushes, it's just like a sitting fire zone that it is dry. So and I just saw Gavin hit an executive order we got to start cleaning the brushes. People have been saying this for a long time. Yeah, And I can't speak to the hydrations. Clearly they were empty. And we got Maria, one of our best friends as a San Francisco fireman. He's down there and he's been there now for a week and it'll be there for another two weeks. He's sending us videos. I mean that video of the stretch of street where the cars that uh yeah, basically the tractor is moving the cars out. He drove it's it's it's like something you would see in a movie. When he sent the video to I mean, it's crazy. Obviously these people they were deadlocked and just got out of their car and the police told him start running. I mean, listen, that's true.
Trump said it two years ago. He talked about that brush issue two years ago.
Listen.
I have always been moderate left leaning, but there is no question the kind of left leaning das in Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles. A lot of these people are getting voted out. They're just they don't you don't have to change laws when you don't adhere to laws.
California, California turned on them right Prop thirty six seventy almost seventy five percent of people voted against it when Gavin was the opposite. So it's clear that people in California are tired of some of this. I grew up in Davis, California, which is like Berkeley Light. Oh, I know, it's gotten much more liberal. I would say since I left twenty years ago, when I was probably in junior higher and high school. We built an overpass to connect part of Davis's over Highway eighty and they couldn't build it until there were toads, And to keep the toads alive, they had to build them a toad tunnel, which I mean, this is the late nineties, at the time, it costs like one hundred thousand dollars, which was a lot of money. And I had friends in construction whenever they tried to build something, they'd find the burrowing owls. And you're constantly battling this stuff in California that you're just not battling in these other and they and when anything goes wrong, they're never anywhere to be seen. It's like, if something goes wrong on our podcast. From my podcast, it's pretty clear it's one of three people that screwed something up. Everyone in the in the business world is responsible. In a company, it's pretty clear who. But in the government in California specifically, there were all these faceless people and I loved it. I come from generations of people that lived there, and my family still lives there. And I left because I was like, this is my business where I wanted to raise my children. I'm like, I don't vibe with all this stuff. And it's no and you see these people like do you think And I don't know. I haven't spent time down there, but a lot of people don't believe that they're gonna be able to rebuild on the P eight because of the groups. They won't allow it to happen. It's cores.
Here's the other thing. Who wants to rebuild in an area where every house is being rebuilt. I mean, you're going to have four hundred houses connected. I don't want to raise my kids around construction sites. It's dangerous. Tractors, you know, all these gigantic utility vehicles like listen, I and it it's my wife doesn't like. My wife's not a huge fan of Los Angeles. So I think I've talked to you about this. I don't know if the audience knows this is I am moving some operations to Chicago. We purchased a house in Chicago, and I love Chicago. First of all, I don't dislike LA but I you know, and and I had talked about this. I remember seeing a story about two years ago in the La Times where they'd spent twenty four billion dollars on the homeless problem and it got worse. And I remember when I lived up near Palisades and my wife had a couple instances where an aggressive person, you know, at a coffee place or a pharmacy like, approached her and she was just like, I'm not paying this for a house in this zip code and dealing with this shit. And it's like, you know, when my my sister, or my wife, or the women in my life, my daughter feel less safe, and so you know, it's I don't like people politicizing eighty mile an hour wins, but I think the points you make are points I hear from all my friends, and I think.
Because we know this is coming at this point now, it's been happening for a long period of time, so to have some proactive measures. There are going to be times when something is going one hundred miles an hour. If something does life, there is no stopping that. I have every firefighter in the world, there is no slowing that down. But there is ways to lessen the ability for that to get going right. And I do think the brush thing. And again, anything Donald says, like the comment about the fish, everyone's like, oh, he's crazy. This is stuff people in California, especially in the business world, constantly make fun of about we got to take care of this. And I'm pro animals, but it is it is over the top again with faceless people and faceless groups that when it does come out, I say, oh, the average salary in this group is four hundred and seventy five thousand dollars, and that's it's just become to me. And part of the reason I liked Arizona is there was a wild, wild West and up and coming vibe to it in California. You know, my grandparents moved there in the forties or late forties after World War Two, and for a long period of time when it really took off, it had that vibe from Hollywood to the Central Valley, to farming to San Francisco with Silicon Valley. And I would say over these last ten to fifteen years, the overregulation of everything and just it's got I mean, it's taken on a life of its own. And I think this la thing has impacted a lot of people that have been very, very loyal Democrats that you see are really taken back by no one cares about me, No one gives a shit. And I'm paying I'm paying over fifty percent, so the government is the majority shareholder in my own income and they don't even care. It's crazy.
Yeah, No, I listen, I hear this. The two people that I vacation with regularly are moderate to leaning right, really really good people, philanthropic, great dads, great husbands, just really good dudes. And they're in my age, so my wife and I travel with them, and believe me, I hear this constantly about the regulations and how difficult it is. And I think, you know, some of the stuff infuriates me because now anybody can say anything but Trump winning a second term and people the first time there was a lot of outrage, there wasn't a lot of outrage this time. I think there's a lot of Democrats who were very quietly accepting the fact that their party has lost its way. And maybe you find Trump crass, maybe even repugnant, but he's kind of a bottom line economy, border crime guy, and I think that's really appealing to people, especially when they're in crisis COVID wildfires. People want answers, and they're not really interested in being you know, they're not really interested in bureaucratic answers and safe answers. They want definitive, hard, uncomfortable questions and answers. And I think that's what Trump provides. And I was really taken back by when he won the election. There was a resignation by the left. You know what, we ran a poor campaign and he connects with more people. And I think listening and watching what's being said during this it is I sit here and I look at America and I think, you know, I think you and I both were very lucky people. But there's also a reason in this country that football is so damn popular. Players play hurt, they play in crappy weather, there's no load management, they don't complain about games, they bust their ass, They treat the fans with respect. I think there was a there was a in that COVID space. There was a time in this country where people felt like they couldn't they had to walk on eggshells on social media, at parties, in public with what they said. And I think people in this country are over it.
Yeah, I mean I would be one of those people. It's why California, everything that happened to the Bay Area during COVID, me and them did not see eye eye. And I was coming to Arizona a lot. I'm talking in like May of twenty twenty, and it was completely normal relative to twenty twenty, and I kept thinking, we're all breathing the same air. What is going on here? And like you said about the costs of living I had a good buddy a couple of years ago, by I mean just a complete tear down shithole in a really nice area in the East Bay for well over three million dollars, and I was like, I'm not I don't even this is crazy, And I just moved my life and I came to a place that I've seen is just completely different. I can't tell you how many people that guys I played golf with, or people I've met that are California transplants who were just I didn't want to raise my children in that environment. I couldn't do the regulations. It was healthier for my business to come here. And overall, I think, you know, people are tired of being lectured constantly, and it's one thing when something crazy happens to like, okay, everyone calmed down when you just never let off the gas pedal on the lecturing. And it cost me seven percent to buy an overpriced house. I go into the store and I get three items and it cost me one hundred dollars. I just don't want to hear it. Yeah, most human beings, I would say, the overwhelming majority of human beings all have the same needs. They just want to live somewhere safe. They want their kids to be safe and have a place to go to school, and have good friends and just have a pretty peaceful life. And I think we jump the shark on constantly screaming at everybody about the moral outrage. People are over it because most people wherever you go, most of my life, I mean, I'm forty years old, up until the last decade of Democrats Republic, people just got along. You just say, yeah, have these friends, my family had these friends. We all and it's just everyone just and this becomes so polarizing. But then it got and I think this has obviously hurt so many people in like the political media, Like I just don't scream at me. I don't care. I don't I think what I think, I'm not going to change for you. And I think it's been very difficult for people with the lecturing of just the average income in America is like sixty grand, Like it is very expensive to live in all these places. Yeah, the port is trying to get by on a daily, weekly, monthly basis to live life. Life's not that complicated. I think we over complicate some stuff, but I do understand, like this is a traumatic event right with the palisades, with the money that's gonna be involved, it's gonna get very like, it's gonna get very hairy, right, the no insurance California's gonna have to step in. It's it's gonna be it's gonna get way uglier. I mean, it's it's kind of crazy that, at least so far, I think the numbers under twenty people have died, given the given the ferocity of these fires, which obviously is a lot, but I mean relative to what you see, it's crazy that it's the number is only that high. But the rebuild the people, I think it's gonna be very eye opening experience for a lot of people that, let's face it, live a pretty, you know, a great I mean, these are pretty some of these areas. You know, Pacific Palisade is way better than me. But when the average price is five to thirty million dollars. But I don't know if you saw Steve Kerr. I think we talked so much about these celebrities and these people worth a lot of money. Steve Kerr is like my mom, my parents bought the house in nineteen sixty nine and whatever, I forget the props like Prop thirteen, whatever the year is, seventy nine or eighty five or whatever. These people haven't been paying updated property tax. That's the only way they could afford to live.
Yeah, I think there's there's a feeling, you know that in Los Angeles, in these areas Beverly Hills, Palisades, Manhattan Beach where I used to live. I used to live next to a fireman and a school teacher and they bought their homes thirty five years ago. Is that? And I also think there is a feeling that Los Angeles is all crazy left. Beverly Hills voted for Trump, I believe twice. And the truth is San Francisco and Los Angeles proper are left leaning. But I think people don't realize outside of the state, when you get out of LA and San Francisco proper, it's very moderate in this state. It's just it can get looney Tunes left up in San Francisco and certainly in like Hollywood. But I have a pretty wide group of friends. Nobody's far left, nobody's far right, but there's a lot more centrist in this area. And the outrage at the politicians. Remember Palisades is one of the bluest areas of LA. It's it is agents, it is actors, it is celebrities, it leans. It's not Hollywood West Hollywood blue, but it's blue. And they are pissed. And I don't know if it will create a seismic shift in the political landscape. But I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if if this Karen Bass stuff the mayor, I wouldn't be shocked. I think this thing may unravel quickly. Listen.
I don't see her having any shot with the amount of I mean the toll of obviously the homes. When you talk about the financial and most importantly whether you're worth five hundred million dollars or five hundred dollars total, where you live is probably your most personal thing. It's where your family lays their head every night. It's a very emotional thing to lose your home and then feel like no one gives a shit and kind of let didn't help you out to begin with and didn't put you in a position to save it, right, And look at Caruso, didn't he save the area his own whatever it is.
Rick Caruso is a legendary builder in southern California. He's one of the richest people in southern California. I also he's a friend. He's one of the nicest, most gracious, genuine people I've ever met. I mean Rick Caruso. I could tell you stories for fifteen minutes about Rick Caruso, how kind he's been to me, and how thoughtful. I thought he was the choice. I think he's the choice now. And that's not even a political statement, that's a common sense statement. He's a builder, he'll get it done, he'll zip through regular relations. But he was an obvious choice I thought the first time. But you know, here's a guy that had been a Republican, he's a rich male in Los Angeles. That's a hard ask, and you know he lost a close race. But listen at this point, if you don't see the value of Rick Caruso, I can't help you because we.
Need amplemented tomorrow morning at seven am and say Rick, fix it, help out. Let's go.
John Middlecoff. I don't even think that was a political discussion. I really don't.
It's a life discussion. I mean, city burned down the volume