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Mel Watson is a former prison guard who worked the infamous Long Bay. In part 2 we hear her journey and some of the things she witness as a screw at Long Bay
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Welcome back to the clean comparts to a French chat with Mel Watson. We kick off with Mel sharing her experiences as a prison guard in one of Australia's toughest jails. I'm going to thank you for being so open and vulnerable at the moment about this, and I know it's going to ruffle ruffle some feathers, and I frankly don't give a fuck because I'm going to tell you why the ship that we go through as inmates, and look, okay, the Karens out there are going to go, oh, yes, but you put yourself in jail. Yeah, all right, Well, so well you're in jail, you're doing your time. Does that mean you need to be crucified whilst you're in jail? Does that mean you need to be treated like an animal whilst you're in jail? The abuse that you endure whilst you're in jail, the levels that they take things to in excess that are over and beyond. What needs to happen is beyond, and we as the inmates at that stage get told to put in a blue and at the end of the day, you're not going to tell on anyone because you're not a dog. So therefore, if you were to write a statement against a crema, whether you write a statement against a screw, either way, you're a dog. It's as simple as that. So we live with it. It becomes something that is so common and so regular. You are somebody whom I want to thank again, because this is the voice that will and needs to be heard. And I'm proud of you for having the confidence and the strength to not be fearful to have this conversation because I know a lot of people wouldn't, so thank you.
I already know the organization that I'm speaking out against, but I don't care because it's just the same as what I do. Like, I'm not going to protect anyone, and I'm not going to be silent about some of the disgusting stuff that goes on in there.
What stuff did you witness in them? Me while we're on this topic, because you know, for us, and I want to say for us, Look, I am well and truly beyond my offending years. Yes, I'm on Supreme Court bar for a matter fifteen years ago. So for everybody out there that wants to have their little poke the bear you got it, Does that make me a criminal? No? I am a very very you know, strong believer in rightfulness and setting things right. And this is why the Clink is what it is, because it allows us to have a voice.
Yes, I would love for you to tell the people out there, because people think we're so full of shit by the time we we said this happened, that happened, and no one wants.
To know about it. Mel. Please, for the people that are in them, the men and the women for us that have been through it, tell our listeners that what you tell them the truth, No, I will.
Tell I will tell the truth that there is a lot of power troopers in that job. And there's honestly a lot of people in that job who should be wearing green, not blue. And the thing is is that they do take advantage of their positions. They do punish people or inmates for things that really are not necessary. And they do look at all inmates like, you know, a piece of shit on the bottom of like piece of freaking gum on the bottom of your shoe like that. That's how they talk, That's how they look at you. That's how they treat you. And it's not just you know, it's not just the officers, it's higher up. They don't give shit. They sweep everything under the rug. You can't exactly that, you can't make complaints. Complaints don't go anywhere. And I'll be honest, I actually put it. I put that officer on paper, which really destroyed my career there. But I was already ready to get out of that job, so it wasn't a problem for me, but for other people who actually want to speak out and you know, have things done. Like it's hard. You can't. You can't speak out in that job.
We got to put in a mystery bluey and you know the bluey just gets thrown in the bin.
Yeah, no you can't. It's yeah, nothing happens, nothing goes anywhere. They always make it look like they're doing something, but they don't. And a lot of the officers do g up the inmates. That's one thing that not that's not a conspiracy. It happens a lot. And like I said, there is good officers in that job, but they don't stay there forever. And if they are there forever, they've earned their place, like they've got respect, they're not assholes. All the stuff that people come out and say, it's not something that I wouldn't not believe having seen it myself.
The things that you know, I mean, I can really go deep into and you will definitely know more than most the physical abuse that the inmates, like look, yes, okay, inmates can be very violent and sometimes the squad comes in and does what needs to be done to certain inmates with reason.
People think, so everyone's like, oh, the squad, this the squad that like their training is like three days.
Oh, we get locked down while they train and have to listen to them, like I remember, I remember. You know, there's no screws. Nothing gets done because it's training days. So the inmates don't get the shower, they don't get the phone calls, they don't get their mail, they don't get shit. You just stay locked in all day while the screws are out there with the dog's bark and marching around the yard being fucking superheroes, playing fucking dress ups.
It's the same when they're short staffed. If you're short staff everyone's locked in.
Well, it's true, and spend you spend a lot of time in segro. First thing they do is they pull the segro screws out, you know what I mean. And we've sat for days, days and days. Silver Water was just renowned for it.
Yeah, no, it's so true. I was always, you know, very respectful with inmates. I wanted to just go home at the end of the day. I'm not there to start ship. I'm not there to get into a use of force. I've never had a use of force because I've never needed to. And like the the thing in that job is it's your communication and the way you talk. Is what gets you places, is what gets you respect, is what is what you know, de escalates situations. But there's a lot of people that just won't do that. And there's a lot of inmates who would rather have the use of force because it's it's kind of like a trophy for them. I guess you know.
The thing is too we get to have a crack at is that's the bottom line. We're going to We're going to get pumped. We know that we're going to get pumped because how how does any one man defend himself against you know, a bunch of steroid munching you know, like a lot of island. There's a lot of big, big men, you know, like and I'm one hundred and forty one hundred and fifty kilo six foot beasts and that's small, you know, with battleshields and everything else, battons and whatever else, you're not gonna win. But if you get one of them, it's a win, you know, and it is it's like, well, run in on me. I'm fuck I remember getting rended Bathust was the worse for it no.
Good in their groups. But you know what, the females can be mouthy as well. When they know they've got all the boys around them.
They're fuckheads. They're they're cocky, little fuckheads. They shits their and they pick and pick and pick, and then the boys come running in behind them.
And if the boys weren't there, telling you now, they wouldn't be doing that, not at all. A lot of people are scared in that job. They're not tough, like as tough as you think. They're only tough because they've got each other, that's it. But on their own, these people are scared. These people are not you know, they're not as They're not as big as they make themselves out to be. And I'm not, I'm not. I'm not bashing all of them because like I said, they're really are some beautiful, beautiful officers in that job. But I still ends to this day. But majority of them I would never meet with outside of work. Majority of them, yeah, I would never trust, never ever trust an officer.
I'm going to ask you this, and I want this cleaned up a little bit because this is this is a presumption and we always get blamed and look, all right, there's certain things that happen on visits. There's certain ways that things enter the prison that are you know, prohibited and what have you. And I know for a fact that there's definitely officers in there that have assisted well and truly and over and beyond over the years. Of course, no, no, I just you've got to remember these wonderful people that listen to these podcasts. A lot of people are quite naive. And I say that with respect, Please don't take that the heart. But they don't know, and everybody assumes. And the assumption is it's the wife, it's the girlfriend, it's the boyfriend, it's the friend, it's this, it's that. Let me tell you the amount of drugs and contraband mobile phones. Fuck, we used to pay, We used to pay a screw and I won't even go into detail. He got busted, right, and this is back back in the day at Long Bay. He was the activities by our officer for many, many, many years, okay, and he and his wife both worked there. They come undone massively. But the amount of money that they made by bringing in everybody had assex, that had any cash outside. Everyone had phones. Now, whatever you wanted was available, more than what you could get on the streets. And this was not coming in from the families. This was not the first to be blamed, you know what I mean, the visit to be stopped, you'd be put on box visits. This had happened, That had happened because of allegations. Yeah, but it's a fucking screws that we're doing it all.
This is what I will say when COVID happens. Let's just say that visits were shut down and drugs are still getting in. How do you know what I mean? And it's it's not it's not a conspiracy like that does happen a lot. At the end of the day. These offices are around, you know, criminals, and eventually you become part of that environment. So when you when you're getting bribes with money like you know, not everyone's going to turn that down, especially if you're in a position to be able to bring something in like you see. The thing is is it's it's not it's not hard to bring something in, but it's not exactly easy. So the people that are bringing something in, they've got connections somewhere, or they're in higher positions like a casual. Like when I was in there, there's no way I could have brought something in, especially these days.
Two male Like the way that you know, you've got to enter the prison and what you've got to go for a scrutinise before you come in. There's got to be a backdoor and you've got to have, like you said, a setup. It doesn't just happen.
No, there's definitely there's definitely ways to get it in, but it's not exactly easy. And like I said, whoever's doing it has a lot of knowledge in that job to be able to get something in. But it's it's the same. It's there's a lot of things. Everyone thinks that, like all the officers are innocent, but they're really not. Just because you have a uniform on doesn't mean shit. Like I knew heaps of people in jail. I went to school with a lot of people that I saw in jail, and like I grew up around that life, and all of a sudden, I have a uniform on. That doesn't change what I know or what I've done, Do you know what I mean? It's the same for officers, Like it's just a uniform. You can't be under the impression that anyone in a uniform is just this righteous person, because I can tell you now, so many in that job are not the complete opposite.
I think for you, Mail, it probably would have given you a little bit more credit street credit for those I guess, and I could be wrong, but I'm just thinking, you know, you would be street wise, you would understand and see things differently, You would pick up on different things, and like you said, you know, you could resolve I guess, situations a lot better through your communications and your personality as opposed to someone who hadn't lived that life or being around that life and just decided, oh I'm just going to be a screw and come out of a school and terrorized criminals.
You know, I think inmates picked up on that energy as well. Like I was just casual, like I'm just like I don't give a shit, like as long as I'm not getting in trouble, and you're not getting in trouble, Like it's fine, you get what you're entitled to. But there's so many officers that will dress like even the things, the littlest things that you're entitled to that are you know, your right to have in prison, they will take that away from you. They will punish you. They you know, dull, and it's the same with officers, like if they don't like you, they'll ruin your life in that job. And there's another thing as well, and this is something that happened to me, but they if you're new in that job, right, and they want you to prove yourself. But the thing is is that you can't prove yourself in an environment like that. You have to have like people backing you because anything, shit can pop off at any moment. And like when I first started, a senior officer left me in a wing with about two hundred men, all by myself, and he just left. There was only two of us, and he goes, oh, I'll be back and took off. And I had all these inmates harassing me, and I was so scared and I was new. It was my first day. And it was a sweeper who actually came to me and stood at the door and he said, miss, I'm not gonna let anyone talk to you. Just keep doing what you need to do. And everyone left me alone after that, and this officer came back and he's just like, oh, you know, how's how's everything going? And in my head I'm just like, did you do Like did you do that?
On perpect you set me up. You purposely did that to test me. Yeah, yeah, how could you not think of it any other way?
Yeah, And I just thought that's messed up because you know, at the end of the day, like, I know what, that's the job I signed up for, but I also didn't know I was going to be left alone as a female. And you know, they always they always go on about, oh, you know your family in blue and you know, we've all got each other's back, not like that at all.
They all want to get you on your back. I think that's the fucking bottom line. That's not sorry, but you know, like, fucker wow, that's.
What the job jobby is just about that. Like you go to work and it's guys talking about how big the dicks are, and you know, talking about, oh, I want to put that girl away, and you know, oh, just then they're all married, like they've got kids and they have wives at home, and they're just disgusting. And the way they talk to women in that job is just it's a boys club for sure.
Speaking of that type of mannerism and derogatory talk and things like that, you were working with the sickest of the sick. Let's talk Let's talk about this because this is something that you know as a survivor. Pray. Look, I put you up here, I think for you to be able to accept that job work around predators. How you did that, I don't know, but what an amazing woman you are for doing it. And you know, I get it now because of the path you're on and what you're what it is that you're out there doing daily to achieve to break that cycle and tell the world the real facts around it. I want our listeners to truly understand what happens to these sick fucks in there, and I'm going to call it for what it is. And you people out there that assume that when you see it on the news, that this bloke's you know, had you know. I'm not even going to use certain words here because it is triggering and it makes me sick of my blood boil. But let's just say pedophiles who have a numerous, multiple multiple charges and you know their their mindsets and their actions and things that they've done, we all sit out here and go they should get stabbed and the boys will get them in ja mate, no one gets shit. You don't get near a fucking pedophile. And if you do your cop six months straight away for anything you make. You spit on a dog and you get six months.
You get more time than they do for sexually abusing a child. Correct, you get more time for hurting them.
Correct.
That is facts, that's not there is.
There is no once in a blue moon you'll hear someone that just happened across paths got got and it's not a proper got, it's just a little bit of a tickle.
Yeah, And I always think those sort of ones. You also got to think where they So I get this comment all the time. People are like, oh, you know, big Bubba is going to take care of them, and I'm like, there's no big Bubba taking care of them. Like, they are completely separated. There is absolutely no way a Maine can access them unless an officer set it up. And officers are not going to do that easily and lose their job.
What is it duty of care?
Duty of care? Gosh, they forgot about those words, beauty of care.
We have a duty of care to protect everybody.
Yeah, you can be in the main and you get stabbed quick as you walk onto the yard. But you be a pedophile and you go into jarle and you get your nice, your nice cuppa in your bed.
Yeah, officers have coffees with pedophiles in the wings. Because they are the most well behaved inmates. That's why they have the best jobs. They get the most resources. At Long Bay. They have a music studio, a fully decked out music studio that no other inmates have. And how many other ones could benefit from something like music therapy, for example, But that's what they have. And they even get like a little bit of extra time out they they are the most well behaved because and that that comes with their character. They're grooming, you know. Ever, they're cunning, but to the to the normal person, they look friendly. They look you know, intelligent, articulate, like they're just lovely people. But that's not who they are. It's just what you see. And so people have no problem interacting with them and talking to them because they talk to you like a friendly neighbor. I hate us talking to.
Can you can you just just take us back for a sec right, because it's somebody whom and many of us listen have been in the system. So okay, doors are cracked, it's muster. What starts were there for a day in this sick pit of pedophiles, the strict protection. What's their day constructed of? Because to me, I have this vision of them all just sitting around sipping lattes, talking about how they've done their crimes, and you know how excited they are and educating each other how to better systems to reoffend.
Yeah. Look, to be honest, I was lucky enough to not have to so I had most of my dealings with them in the courts. I was lucky enough to only have, you know, a few less than a handful of moments where I was in the wings with them, and this was more so during my training. But they are out all together, they go into each other's cells. They they're just sitting around talking to each other. They have a nice little courtyard in one of their rehabilitation.
Units or with flourish and people.
It's lovely, a nice little place to have coffy. And you know they have psychologists group meetings that offices are not allowed to sit in. But you know that they're talking about their crimes and people think that they're remorseful and sorry. When I was working in the courts, for example, I was taking all my whole day was filled with child sexual abuse cases. That's how bad it is. And I would take them to court. They're victims who some of them were like males in their forties who were breaking down on the stand crying, and then I would take them out for lunch, like just out of the courtroom, down to their cells and they're just like, oh, how's your day. Oh I love the cookies here, like just no care at all, no remorse, no nothing, And like I get you know, I get a lot of comments of people who actually sympathize with them and protect them, and they're like, oh yeah I.
Do, and they're like in your pages, yes, yes.
Yes, and they're like, oh, well, they shouldn't be punished in prison. They've done their time. And I'm like fourteen months for sexually abusing child, which is I.
Did a post on my ankle bracelet this week. Are real and I got trolled to the shit house because I have an ankle. I'm scum, I am fucking I'm a criminal. There's a reason this and that sucked in deal with it all the bullshit and I'm just proble fuck Like, oh I god hammered.
They didn't get ankle bracelets. They get they literally get out like after fourteen months. That was that was the norm for the And this is this is one thing I would take up, you know, and I'm not justifying anyone's crimes, but I would take up drug dealers or anyone who's committed like you know, tax fraud or whatever. You know, they're getting up to twenty years. And then I would take a pedophile. I took. I took one who he raped thirty seven kids and he got fourteen months on parole because my goodness, because he was a pari a priest and he is defense argued that he had still done a lot of good for the community. He was Actually he didn't get an ankle bracelet.
Oh that's see, that's you've just given us one one case of thousands.
No, And that was the thing. I really enjoyed working at the courts because I feel like that's where I learned a lot about how they operate and just the damage. Like as being a survivor myself, I already know, but I also, you know, I felt very alone in that. I felt like, oh, you know, I'm the only one. But then seeing how common it is and just what they do and the lengths they go to and then seeing them after court And I always say that after court or in prison is when you see a pedophile in their real Like that's the real then, because they're not trying to prove anything to police, they're not trying to look good on paper, like that's who they are. And they're not remorseful, and so many people are like, oh, you know, are they sorry and this and that. I'm like, absolutely freaking not. I've never seen one say sorry. I've never seen one take accountability. They always make excuses and then they get the best resources in prison, which just makes no sense to me because it's not a punishment for them. Everyone thinks that prison is a punishment for them.
It's it's a school. It's a school to better their crimes. That's all it is.
It's a holiday camp for pedophiles, It's what it is, and they love it and they teach each other to come out and access you know, see sam like child sexual abuse material. They just it's just people are so oblivious and they are just getting so much more resources and protection than anyone else. And these resources would benefit survivors and should go to survivor.
And we need more of it. We truly, do you know there's not enough out there to help us.
Absolutely, there's lots for them. There's lots of and everyone's like, oh, you know, but we need to rehabilitate them. They cannot be rehabilitated. And I will say that I don't care. They cannot be rehabilitated, and I don't want them rehabilitated. I don't want them coming back out to the community ill after section.
I like this one mal where you get the Karens and it's like it's an illness, it's a newness. The poor, the poor things, the things that happened to them when they were children and they didn't know any better, and they've just you know, this is damn and this is who they are. Go fuck yourself. You and I are both survivors. And so there's probably half the people will listening, and I can guarantee you one million percent. None of us are fucking pedophiles.
Absolutely. I get so many of those people.
Oh my blood boils.
I had a psycho. Okay, I'm going to say this all right, and I don't go for it. I don't care who I offend. Psychologists in the prisons are pedophile sympathizers, and they they are they will they think that they can fix them and they cannot be fixed. And I get some of them who come on and DM me, like on Instagram and be like, oh, you're grooming everyone against pedophiles, and I'm like, is another point, Like who wouldn't be against the pedophile? But in prison they think and you know, I get them coming on and they're like, oh, but in their sessions with like you know, I've had sessions with them in prison and they're sorry, and you know, they've had really hard childhoods. And I'm like, but of course they're telling you that because you're putting that on paper that goes towards court that helps with their sentencing. Of course they're going to different story.
The man, it's a sympath it's a sympathize, a sympathetic you know, way of justifying their hideous crimes and the sickening acts that they do.
It's just funny that there's people that are against it. Like, I didn't think that that was a thing until I started my page, and I get you know, I get a fair share of haters, and I'm just like, you know what, I couldn't give a shit about your opinion because you stick up for people who get off over you know, sexually abusing a child for their own sexual gratification.
Like bite me, like ill, I'll get hammered on my page because or the media or grab them. They'll say X bikey enforcer, X, bikey drug dealer X this X that you know and absolutely try and belittle me in every possible And I'd say the bloke that rode across Australia that started a national charity that helped thousands of people, that writes you know, did a fantastic job and started a podcast like the Creditation. Not that I'm asking for it, but I'm just saying the way that they'll manipulate things and words that they choose yet will show sympathy for a dirty, rotten, filthy pedophile. And I will not take a backward step on any word relating to this fucking scum of the earth.
Yeah no, the don't care. Our government protects pedophiles.
Our just hard for them are fucking pedophiles themselves.
You know, we're doing a sex offender registry and we look at Cumra.
Look at Kumbra gile, a full jile full of fucking white collar criminals that are mainly pedophiles and fraudsters, and they all fucking hang out.
That's the norm because they go for positions of power to get like gain the trusts of parents and gain the trust of children. And that's how they do it. It's not it's not a conspiracy. They really do go for positions of power. There's judges that have come out, as you know, sexually abusing children and they were putting away pedophiles and giving them like little sentences, do you know what I mean. So it's yeah, it's so bad. And and even like with everything that we try to do, like there's so many advocates that are working to get legislation in place to actually the lives of pedophiles harder, and the politicians won't even sit with you. They won't they bite back. And we've had you know, we're trying to do a child's sex offender registry. There's a couple of us advocates.
Just just just slow down on that one because this is a really important part of this conversation and something that I really feel needs to be explained so you will move away from the work that you did within we've got a fairly good idea of you know, your knowledge and experience and how traumatic it was and the realities of what truly goes on in the jail systems. I mean, I think we can all agree to that and thank you for your honesty. Corrupt you've well, you've stepped away from that with a beautiful passion though, and credit to you once again because your experience and the way that you've taken you as a survivor, and then your experience of working firsthand around these oh look at me start. I can't even use the word just fucking scum. You you now have created a very strong platform. You're you're you're building a team of like minded people, yes, or with the great passion of achieving some wonderful things to protect protect our children, protect our people from these wonderful fucking you know, white collar and underprivileged pedophiles that we are pet. We're pet because you know poor them. Yeah, like, fuck up, I just can't just you know what, this is probably going to want to be one of the toughest episodes for people to listen to in realization, and I'm not going to apologize at any stage of Nora, are you for anything? That we're speaking about today. So now you are working tirelessly, you really are, and doing a fantastic job. And it's a tough job. And as you said, you know you're getting a lot of a lot of walls put up barriers. This is something that many people have tried to achieve before, and a lot of people have given up on because it is a tough road. How's it going for you? And tell us about what you're doing, and how do we know how to contact? Where can people find this? Give us all the insight you.
So everyone can follow FACA. Now. FACA is amazing. They're actually pushing for a child sex offender registry that a couple of US advocates are on board for. We've sent emails to politicians, We've told them what it's about. We didn't give them a time or a date, but they rejected us and said that they are fully booked and they can't sit with us, even though we didn't give them a time. But you know what, we're not going to stop. I think this year especially, there's so many amazing advocates that are doing just doing God's work, honestly, and I have to I'm very very proud of so many of these survivor advocates and the work that they're doing and the team that we have, because I think that we're just so we're like stronger in numbers, and you know, we're not gonna let the government tell us that we can't because you know, we have to. We have to fight. We have to be a voice for everyone. We have to be a voice for people who haven't made it to this day because of what's happened. We have to be a voice for people who are still living in silence. And the more people that are speaking out and working together, the better. I'm not one to do this alone. Like you know, I could just do this for clout and be like, oh, you know, this is all about me and my story and whatnot. But I love working with everyone. I love teaming up with people because we all have the same passion and the same goal and like so.
I can see it in the way you're like, like you literally light up each time you speak about it, and you know, being a survivor yourself, I find that amazing that you're able to just your pure passion and it shows Yeah, and that's huge. You know, you've got no ulterior motive other than to do good.
Yeah, I think a lot of it just came from just seeing the damage I've done to myself and then seeing the damage it's done to so many people, and I'm just like and then seeing in the prison system how well looked after they are, and then seeing in the justice system how lenient, you know, the judges are towards them in comparison to other crimes. And I'm just not going to stand for it anymore. Like, you know, if people are gonna have a problem with it, I don't care, because at least the truth is getting out there and we have to do something about it. And it takes all of us, like everyone has to come together to do something. So you guys can stay focused on what I'm doing and what we're all doing. Follow Packer. Follow Andrew Carpenter because he is a lawyer that does amazing work and he's got a petition going through that is, you know, stops pedophiles from hiding their assets in their super so that they can't pay compensation to their victims and that ends up falling on the taxpayer.
Follow Harry Oh wow, Okay, there's.
Also Harrison James, and there's a few other guys, he's got on there that basically doing a campaign which will stop pedophiles from having good character references in court because they're not good characters, right and.
Good No, especially repeat offenders like they do not deserve that opportunity on a pre sentence to be given the justification by a magistrate or judge to why they should be downgraded or why they just let's be honest. What is the maximum sentence for a sexual offender?
God, I don't even. I don't even that's a good question.
Actually, I can tell you. I can tell you what I was told. I was looking at twenty five years for importation of three kilos. But hey, what what does three sexual offenses of a pedophile? What does that get him? It won't getting twenty five years. I can assure you.
It doesn't matter, because I know I was looking at this recently and I'm pretty sure for certain, Like you know, if there's penetration involved and whatnot, there's different you know, there's different ones. But I can tell you now, whatever the maximum is, they're not getting it. The norm for me, for what I always saw was three years on the top and fourteen months on the bottom. That was the norm. And that and that was.
And that's automatic parole too.
Yeah, and they get the parole because there's like I said.
It's automatic behaved they're going to that falls into the automatic parole category.
Though, Yeah, I know exactly.
And then they've under two years.
Yeah, and they get out and start their lives and live their lives happy, while you know their victims are living with a lifetime of trauma and no therapy and no resources and no assistance and no help.
What's your page, mell on Instagram and in your socials? Where can people actually reach out to you? And you know, I know that you are doing amazing work and I know that people, if you allow me to say this, can communicate and reach out to you and seek help and you can direct them into some fantastic connections that will assist. And we won't go into naming all of them here because there is no.
Really good that you asked that because I do so on my page. I'm only on Instagram and YouTube. I was on TikTok, but I kept getting censored for saying the word pedophile. So it's mel wat'son official and that's for Instagram and YouTube. If you do need resources in regards to child sexual abuse, like therapy or there's a couple that I have. You can go into my highlights under resources and you will find a bunch there that I constantly update, so have a look there for some resources you can reach out. I always try my best to get back to everyone, but I do have three kids and it is hard to filter through all the messages, but I do try my best.
Mel what's the plan for the next six months. Give us an indication on where you see yourself and what you're achieving and what you want to achieve.
I do have a few things in the works that I think are going to be very valuable to survivors. I can't say too much on that, but I do plan to like I do plan to get in the media more. I have a few things that are coming up as well. I do plan to get some get involved in some campaigns with laws and legislation, and I am going to manifest this. I do plan with all my other advocates and FAKA to get a child sex Offender registry that is available to the public in Australia in action because it's needed.
I love that and I can honestly see it in your eyes. You ain't stopping, and I believe you, and I really think that. You know, I said something on one of my pages yesterday. It was and I, you know, after that little troll thing, and I threw a little video up that SB did on me, and it talks about what experience I endured, and I thought, you know what fuck is? Go and watch this and then see what the passion is behind what I try to achieve and do. You can't. You can't. You can't hurt us. You can't. You can't take anything from us. You can't all right, lock us up? I can you find us? Do this abuse us? So you can't break us. We've been broken to the point that you're you're you're in peace is beyond beyond. You can't you know the strength that we as survivors, and all you survivors out there that are listening to this, hold your head up. I'd be proud of who you are, absolutely, and all of you out there that are feeling that you may want to open up, just do it. Open up. There's nothing wrong with coming forward and speaking up about you are being a survivor of any sexual abuse, whether it be family, friend, institutional, whatever it is. And people like you are the ones that are going to be able to help these wonderful people out there to find peace within themselves. We never ever forget it. I will never forgive. I just you know, I'm a humble man, I'm a religious. Look, I love life, I love my fam but I wouldn't and look, and I've said it, I sat in the yard for years waiting for one of those fucking dogs to walk through. I was going to stab him to death on the spot. It was just something in beat. I'm thank god it never happened because I would never have my children today, and I'd be they would have won. They would have won, you know. So, but I do have a voice, and I have successfully brought justice to some of those perpetrators through my voice and the actions that I've taken. And I won't say through what organizations and so on, because yeah, it's just unnecessary. I'll leave that up to you to talk to people away from this podcast. So, guys, I'm gonna ask mel you this question, and I do ask of it of every guest. I don't know whether you've heard this, but for those that are right now listening to this, that are in deep thought that are survivors that are truly struggling to speak out. What advice would you give?
I was going to add to what you said before. Do not be afraid to tell your story. Remember that your silence protects them and it feels it's hard to come forward, and I understand that, and you know you're scared of everything. But honestly tell your story because it's the most freeing, healing thing that you can do for yourself. And just remember that if you do open up to someone and they invalidate you, and you know, they say something to you that makes you feel like you know it was your fault or whatnot, or they don't believe you, that's on them. That's that's a projection of them. That's not on you. Don't stop telling your story because of that, and don't shut up because of that. Just keep doing it. Remember you're helping so many people, and you're freaking strong.
You are strong. We are strong, and together we are unbeatable. And you know, I can't thank you enough. I can't thank you enough for joining me this evening. And you know you are a mum of three beautiful children and you've given your time to share and you've really put yourself out there, so you know, like for everybody out there that's heard me say it a hundred times during this interview, I mean it every word. You need to be commended for the work you're doing and for your bravery and your honesty. And let's let me ask you, please come back and let us help in any way possible to grow what you're trying to grow. I'll support you, guys, I will do it through my media's and guys, if you're out there and you let's work together. The more of us that actually use our voice and our power through our medias and platforms and make the noise, the better opportunity we have of healing people and bringing justice to these perpetrators. Mel Watson an amazing woman. Stay strong, keep fighting believing what you're believing in. It is absolutely awesome. And please come back to the clink.
I will not be a stranger. And thank you so much for opening your platform up to this conversation. And I'm so honored to be here.
It's been my honor. And guys, there you have it, Mel Watson. What a story. We will hear more from her in time. I hope you've enjoyed today's episode. It has been a tough one and from both of us, please be very kind to yourself. It is a very triggering episode and reach out if you need to help. There's lots of people out there that you can contact, Mel being one of them, and she has left her details there and look, I'm always open to a conversation personally. Email me, message me, I'm there. I'll get back to you. Thank you very much for you listening to this episode.
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