Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast, Our two of Clay in Buck gets going right now, everybody, thank you very much for being here. And the positions of various GOP contenders on Ukraine. It's something that got a bit of attention last night. Tucker Carlson reached out his show and reached out to contenders for the GOP domination because we now have a full scale war going on in Europe between two advanced industrialized economies and one of them has a whole lot of nukes and a whole lot of energy reserves, and this is a big deal. It's also in the backdrop of all the things we're seeing economically play out right now too. You can't just leave all this stuff on the side. This is factoring into the sense of public unease right now. And I'll tell you this, Does it feel like things are good right now in the country honestly economically? Does it feel like things are good? On the world stage. Biden is soon to be out there telling everybody he is running for reelection and what a great economy it is. I mean, he's going to make these claims. The media is going to back him up. And I'm just here to tell you they're lying to you. They're lying. Do you you know that? But get ready for it because it should annoy you. It should be something that you find very frustrating. There should be a part of you that feels like, Wow, they are brazen, because what's their alternative to admit that Biden is an imbecile to agree with Republicans that many of the things, whether it's the reduction in pursuing fossil fuels that has happened because of the Biden administration, the decisions that have been made across the board when it comes to regulation, taxation, that all these things make us poorer, more depressed, less free as a nation, less prosperous. No, they're never going to met any of that. But Biden's got his handsful right now because there's only so much the media can do to make things seem better than they are. And on the issue of Ukraine and Russia, I do think that the GOP is going to have a bit of a fight on its hands here. Internally, Democrats are they're the party of if there's a war that we can fund or fight in that doesn't actually benefit America, Democrats are all in. Democrats and Lindsay Graham, sign them up, I mean, not to fight, but sign them up to send your children and your money to that conflict. Republicans at least tend to be more likely to there a lot of there's a lot of provisos, a lot of caveats in this because I just mentioned that Lindsay Am but there are others as well. But there are at least conservatives within the GOP tent who if there's gonna be a war, it's to protect us and protect our interests. Maybe maybe they're wrong about those interests, or maybe they're miscalculating, but at least that's their purpose. So what are we doing in Ukraine right now? And one are the various candidates for on the Republican side think about it. I thought it was very interesting that you had Ron de Santis, who is not yet running for president, and everyone is assuming that he will run, but we're not certain of that obviously hasn't happened yet. Here's what he shed about America's objective in Ukraine. And again hat tip to Tucker's show forgetting this information. And Tucker read this on Fox last night without question Peace should be the objective. The US should not provide assistance that could require the deployment of American troops or enable Ukraine to engage in offensive operations beyond its borders. F sixteens and long range missiles should therefore be off the table. These moves would risk explicitly drawing the United States into the conflict and drawing US closer to a hot war between the world's two largest nuclear powers. That risk is unacceptable. I agree that risk is unacceptable. I think that is an eloquent and well thought out position from Rhonda Santists on this one. Trump was in Iowa, and I mean he put this in. He also responded in writing, but I thought that he'd better to hear this that Trump said, this is clip three. He is the only candidate who will make this promise that he will prevent World War three. Play it standing before you today. I am the only candidate who can make this promise I will prevent World War three, because I really believe you're going to have he will prevent world Now, that's an important promise to be able to keep. That's something that really we all, you know what we're all. I would well, I think all Democrats would even go along with that one. Certainly all same people would go along with wanting a future Trump administration to be successful in keeping the promise of averting World War three. I think that's a that's a big deal. We all know that, So that's a central issue. I think you're going to see this getting fought out a whole lot more in public. I also think you're going to see an increase in the kinds of technology and the personnel and everything else that the Russians and the Ukrainians are putting onto their front lines. Going into the spring fighting season, the Russians have reportedly had a massive call up of more not just reserve US but conscripts. So this is going to be a fight that gets even bloodier, and it's going to go on for years. And the US has to understand now and has to have the discussion now about what our objectives are war and peace. This stuff really matters, matters to all of us. We've gone through twenty years of the American people having our men and women in uniform deployed overseas. Trump got us to the end of it. Biden did pull the troops out of Afghanistan, and you know, I keep saying this because I just want to make sure that we don't have four more years of Democrat because that's really forget. Biden is just the puppet Democrat regime, Democrat apparatus running the country. He is going to point to Afghanistan as a success, and it's going to resonate with a lot of people, not the war as a success, obviously the withdrawal, because memories are fading about what a debacle the actual withdrawal was and who we left behind mind and all people will know is when Biden says, you know, I pulled out the troops. He did, so that's going to be a useful narrative for him. The same way you're seeing Biden moderate on he's moditoring on fossil fuels. You see, he just is going to approve this project. The environmentalists are all upset about it. He's moderated on police. See he's saying we need more cops and he's not defund the police. And the Biden that you and I know, as in the Democrat administration that currently exists, isn't what is going to be presented to swing voters to independence and Arizona Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Pennsylvania. You get it. That's not what's what All the ads they're gonna run and all the media narrative is going to be, Oh, Joe Biden. Yeah, he's a moderate, he's a moderate. I want to get to how much of a lie that is in a moment, but I want everyone to understand that that's where this is going, that the reality of Joe. You're not running against the reality of Joe Biden, a decrepid, old buffoon who spent decades doing whatever would keep him in power in Delaware as a senator, you know, as a machine politician for the Democrat Party who was a joke to Democrats until five minutes ago. That's not who you ran against. Was, you know, moderate normalcy, always always grinning at people and saying that he feels their pain, and yeah, you know, we're all just human beings. Let's all just hug it out. It was the whole thing was a farce. He's the president. Now you're going to be running against the fiction that they're able to create with grains of truth behind it about Joe Biden. So understand that. Okay, that's one part of this and then there's this from from Donald Trump. I am a two time Trump voter. I think that Donald Trump, I'm wait, yes, sorry, two times I was like he didn't get two terms. Two time Trump voter obviously voted from in twenty sixteen and in twenty twenty. I think Trump did a very good job as president. There are some areas where I wish things had been a little different, but overall, a very good job as president. And I think that he has a lot to bring to the table now and I think he could be a very good president in his second term. I also think that he needs to have people around him who will tell him the truth, the truth about some of the positions he's taken. By the way, recently, some of the videos he's put out, some of the policy ideas really engaging, really worthwhile stuff shows both the ability to learn and the ability to project division for the future that I think would be quite good for the country. But then there's other stuff that comes out sometimes and I just look at this and I say, what is this? What is this all about? Why is Trump taking this approach? Who is advising him or maybe it's just Trump himself, but he needs advisors then to tell him, this is not the way, sir, talk about you as the leader of the party with great ideas that will raise up all Republicans and with it the entire nation be bigger than some of the petty stuff. This isn't twenty sixteen. You're not the guy that everyone's laughing at who has to show everybody who you know, the real, the real alpha dog is right that it's not twenty sixteen. You have been the president. There has to be a change. And I bring it up because that he put out this video and I want you to hear it. And if you think I'm missing this or whatever, by all means, I want to open up the lines. Like I said, I want to encourage the best of Trump, the best of his ideas, the best of what he's got. And you know we are in a primary officially, and so when I see this video, I think, no, no, no, this is not This is not people. By the way people say that it's it's funny. If I say maga, they say you're supposed to say maga. And if I say maga, people yell at me and say it's supposed to be maga. I mean, I think this is tomato Tomato. Right. Anyway, here is Donald Trump praising well you'll hear for yourself. Play clip one. For those of you that didn't notice, Florida was doing great long before Rond Sanctus got there. People are fleeing from New York to Florida and other places because of high taxes and out of control crime. It's really bad, not because of the governor. Thank you, mister President for doing that. But it's not because of the governor. Florida was doing fantastically. You had a governor named Rick Scott who did a very good job. Even Charlie Chris the Democrat, did a good job, but he had very good numbers. Sunshine and ocean are very alluring. It's not too hard to work with those factors. So just remember Florida was doing really well long before Rond Sanctis got there. Okay, first of all, this Sanctus nickname Trump Trump's nicknames used to crumble his opponents. Okay, a low energy Jeb. Jeb never covered for his presidency, never or a presidential campaign. Never recovered from that little Marco right with with Marco Rubio that was at the time. And by the way, some people say that this stuff is unfair and it's childish, But I'm just saying, at the time these things worked, say what you will about them, they worked. The sanctus I don't, I don't. I don't think so, I don't. I guess it's sanctimony, is what we're kind of going for here. It's just it's not clever enough, it's not worthy of Trumpian nickname. It's just it's just not gonna work. So I'm here to just be honest with all of you about what I see happening here in this primary. Look, it's still super early. Descendus isn't even in the primary, so why is he attacking a popular Republican governor. And then on the issue of what's happened in Florida, if all of you knew, the number of people in conservative media who have moved to Florida in the last three years is mind blowing. There's been nothing like this ever before in my lifetime in this country. So many of your favorite commentators, TV, radio, podcasts, you name it have moved to Florida and either doing partially you know, six months of the year or something like that, or here year round. And it's because this has become a symbol of something, something is happening in this state that the right and conservatism is seizing on. There's a momentum here. And you see this from the eight hundred thousand people who have I'm in Florida right now. You see this from the eight hundred thousand people who have moved to Florida since the beginning of the pandemic. You see this from the lowest crime rate the state has had in fifty years. It's always it's always had great weather, it's always had you in recent memory, at least low or no state taxes on income. So that's not going to cut it. And it was the best state to be in during COVID. I know because I was in New Yorker who had come down to Florida during COVID to experience normalcy when other states and other places I remember, I mean Texas, I was very disappointed in Texas during the pandemic. I love the state of Texas. I've thought about moving there to live many times in my life. But during the pandemic, Abbott was not very good. He got better, he got you know, he got wise on La COVID and lockdowns, but it took him a while Florida was the best state during the pandemic. We have to be honest here about what happened, where we had our victories, where we had our losses. And when you have not a single statewide elected Republican in Florida for the first time since the Civil War, that's different. That's not a normal thing. Praising Charlie Christ. First of all, he was a Republican when he ran the state, which is hilarious because Charlie Christ has literally been a Republican, a Democrat, and an independent. But this is not the way. This is not the way for Trump. I want. I want more of the ideas. I want more of the leader. I want the narrative. You know, there's a there's a time and a place for the brawling and the fighting. But for me, this it just didn't work. If you think I'm wrong by all means, let me know. If there are some Trump voters out there, and I mean obviously a lot of Trump voters, I mean people for whom Trump is the only option, the only option to take on Biden. If you like this or didn't like this ad, let me know. I'm very curious. Eight hundred two to eight eight two We'll get into some of that later on in the hour. So I think that's very It's look, it's it's gonna be a heck of a primary, folks, gonna be a heck of a fight. I think that much is clear. You know, nine hundred dollars a lot of money. 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Diane from Virginia, What have you got for us? Diana? I just can't support him the way he is now. I voted for him twice. Just cannot believe his anger and resentment and so many things that have really are destructed to this country. He needs to be taken on the current president the card democratic black laning black wingers in this country. Look, thank you. Yeah, I agree. I mean he should be saving his saving his fighting fury for the other side. I totally agree. And I just say, you know, President Trump should sit down, sit down with me, sit down with Clay, and just be like, guys, tell me honestly what's going on here, because I think the advisors around him not sir ving him well right now, not serving him well. It's been nearly twenty years since Mike Lindell invented the original my Pillow. At that time, it had everything you wanted in a pillow. But two decades later, Mike has had a technological breakthrough the two point zero version of the my pillow. 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He is the former CEO of the Hedgewater of the Hedge Fund Rather Bridgewater, candidate for US Senate in Pennsylvania in the last election cycle. A combat veteran West Point graduate, author of a new book that is out now, Superpower in Peril, a battle plan to renew America. David, good to have you back on the program. Hey Bus, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. So we got a couple of things, big things to get into here. First of all, breaking news just in the last couple of minutes, a Russian jet has collided with a US drone over the Black Sea and international airspace. I want to get into all the banking stuff. You ran Bridgewater, one of the biggest hedge funds in the world. You know the banking stuff very well. But first tapping into your combat veteran side. You went to West Point, you have served in different government national security related roles. How concerned are you about the trajectory right now in Ukraine. Well, I'm very concerned about it in the sense that you know, Putin is an aggressor here h He has challenged a sovereign sovereignty of Ukraine. And I think we are in the right position to be supporting the Ukrainians because I think it's in US interest. But we got to do that with a lot of care, and we got to make sure the things that we're sending there aren't being corrupted and used in ways it's inconsistent with the mission. And we got to be careful and incidents like you describe are the things that are unexpected. We got to be careful that US troops don't in any way get drawn in. So I'm I'm among those who think what's happening in Ukraine is an important US interest. I think China is watching carefully. But I also understand those who are skeptical, and we have to be careful not to get drawn into something bigger. Now, all under the financial side of things, there's a lot of message to clean up right now in a bunch of different a bunch of different areas of the world. Yeah, so tell us. I mean, first of all, is the bailout, the backstopping, whatever it is, is this the right thing to do? How do you see things as they are right now? Before we get into where the financial and sector and economics sector are going, But what do you think about what they've done up to this point? Well, I think you got to start and I'll be very brief, but you've got to look at how we got here because it answers part of your question. So we are here because of excess excess over the last ten years in terms of too much fiscal spending, but extreme excess in the last two years under Joe Biden, enormous amount of spending, forty percent increase in discretionary spending. We're an all time high in our debt of thirty one trillion dollars. And that excess of spending has been matched with extremely low interest rates for more than a decade. And as a consequence of that, we have inflation. And that inflation is something we got to control. And so the Fed, ironically, in trying to help stop the problem it created, raised interest rates quickly. And now we've got a gap between the assets and the liabilities, and that is across the whole banking sector. It's not just across the SBB, and that's the macro problem. Now. Second SBB, Silicon Valley Bank wasn't terribly man is a bank terrible risk management. It's appropriate that the whole leadership team got fired. But the regulators made a big mistake here. The San Francisco Federal Reserve should have known this. It's obvious what was going to happen when interest rates rise, that the balance sheets on the banks are gonna be underwater. They're gonna have to sell assets. And because these assets were so the deposits are so concentrated. It's created a real problem, not just for Silicon Valley Bank, but for others. Now, in terms of what the government has done, I think it's it's appropriate the equity holders lose their lose their money. I think it's appropriate that the credit holders lose their money. I'm very concerned about the bailout of these uninsured deposits and a mun I'm concerned for two reasons. First, you know, the guy who had the landscaping business and landscaped Silicon Valley Bank and the company would have ten thousand dollars. He lost that ten thousand dollars. But the rich Silicon Valley venture capitalist got one hundred percent on their dollars, and that seems wrong, that seems inappropriate. Second, we got a moral hazard. We got a moral hazard problem where there's eight trillion dollars of uninsured bank deposits. And so did we now just set a precedent where we're going to bail out eight trillion dollars of uninsured bank deposits if we need to. I don't think so. So we're sending a dangerous precedent, and that for that reason I would oppose it opposed a bailout of any kind. We're speaking of David McCormick. He's a former combat veteran ran for Senate in Pennsylvania in a tough primary there against doctor Oz and also is the author of a new book that is out, Superpower in Peril, about a plan to New America. All right, David, where is this all going? I mean credit suites? Back to the financial thing, because people are worried about their money, I think rightfully, so they're worried about their savings, and they're worried about their jobs. So what happens now? I mean credit suits? They're saying, has I think that, you know, systemic issues or something. There is some term that they used to say, it's not looking good over there. And there are some other banks I'm sure that also have similar problems, maybe not as badly as SVB. But do you feel like this is the beginning of a real plunge or is this something that if we handle appropriately or is handled appropriately, we're not heading into a major recession. Well, one of the things I've I've learned along the years is to just have humility about the ability to predict anything. Here, I would say that a couple things. In response to your question, The biggest important thing in banking is to have confidence. Confidence in the banking system. The deposits that old people put in the banks are not available to take out because they lend those, so there's a fraction of the deposits available. So people have to have eidence, and the government's try to take steps to put confidence in place. We'll see how much it works. The underlying problem that I described, where people have bought assets and had long duration assets and now they're worth a lot less is a big problem. And the inflation that we have in our economy is likely going to lead the Fed to raise rates to the point where we go into recession, and that is going to be very challenging for our economy. And it's part of the broader thing I try to address in my book about Superpower Imperil. I think this is just evidence of a decline. America's in decline economically from a national security perspective. Spiritually, and decline is not inevitable, but neither is renewal. It depends on what we do. And so my book Superpower Imperil lays out the plan for educating our people for confronting China and for securing America, and part of that is to get our fiscal house in order and to get back to more normal policy. We've lived in access for a long time, and whenever there's access, there creates all sorts of distortions in the markets. And that's what we're dealing with right now. Is there any way you think realistically that the Fed will be able to navigate these interest rate raises without plunging us into what even the Biden administration will have to admit is a recession. Yeah, Listen, I think it's gonna be very difficult. And you know, if you go back and I just read recently the book about Paul Volker during his time there, and what happens with inflation is there's you know, if you take the pedal off too quickly and lower rates too quickly, inflation comes back. And so you've got to break the back of inflation both with your movements, with your moves and interest rates, but also with your rhetoric and signaling. And I think it's going to be very difficult not to be very tough minded on inflation, because the inflation has an insidious impact on our economy and is very challenging for politically, so I think we're likely to go into recession. I think it's likely going to be a tough period, and that's why I think a renewal agenda is really important. There's lots of problems in the country just beyond the economic ones you and I are talking about, and so my argument in the book is that we need leadership as conservatives that's going to put great candidates forward that can win primaries and win general elections. Is going to put a positive agenda forward for how to solve these problems and uh, and it's going to do the work to get absentee ballots and voter registration so we can win elections and take the country in the right direction. And this book is meant to be a blueprint for how to do that. A battle plan to renew america superpower in Peril is the book Before let you Go, David, you're thinking about running for president because this book looks like the kind of book somebody might write if they were running for president. Well, first, I started writing the book before I ran for the Senate. At this point, now that the books time, my wife did tell me I got to get a job of some sort bucks. So I don't I don't think. I don't think she's very open minded about that. But I have I have been thinking about running for the Senate in Pennsylvania. I've not decided yet. There's twenty four centator CASEYC will be open for election, and so we'll think about that and pray about it and make a decision later this year. I suspect catch it. So maybe running for something fair enough. David McCormick, everybody's superpower and peril. David, thanks for calling in, appreciate it. Thanks, but thanks to talk to you. You know, we're big fans of the herbal supplement company Chalk. The product speaks for itself, but the ownership is really impressive too. Simply put, this Texas based company wants to make everyone they know healthier. During the pandemic, while people were eating more, drinking more, a lot of unhealthy takeout stuff, the gyms were closed, Chalk was advocating for healthier lifestyles. 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Get to your optimum health, learned, laugh and join us on the weekend on our Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast. Find it on the iHeart apt or wherever you get your podcasts. Eight hundred two two two eight eight two. If you want to chat with us here on the Clay and Buck Show, I guess to chat with me because today I'm solo. Play is out and he is just on a great vacation in Italy. He'll be back on Monday. We have some calls in here, Randy in a brass You are a Democrat who may go right, Well, Randy, you're in the right place. How do we convince you to come on into the light? Well? Buck quick calling me a communist and all those nasty things. But maybe you're not a commy. Maybe you're one of the old school Democrats that actually was open to reason, insanity, you know what I mean. So there's a whole range, sir. I'm all alienated by my party. I'm a Christian, I'm pro Second Amendment, I'm pro law enforcement, I'm pro military. But sounds like you're a Republican. I don't know what what is there left to figure out here? So keep going. I'm also pro labor and a few other and I'm pro public schools, so there are some issues there. And I am pro choice, but that doesn't mean i'm pro abortion. You know, you guys, the Republicans, you're always saying we've got to get the independence to vote for us. Yeah, I think you can get the independence to vote for you, especially the way my party's been going. But open the door. There there are those of us Democrats. Open the door. You know the guy that comes on the air following this show on my station. Oh nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, we're not gonna We're not. Are you saying he opens the door and is good about this? Or well? No, I just want to say, he's kind of like did you ever see the movie Boogie Nights? No, no, no, we're not, We're not, don't. I don't know who it is, but I don't want to thank you Randy for calling in. I don't want anyone talking about any of the other shows that may be coming on after or before this, because they're not here to respond one way or the other. And uh, I mean, if it's any of my syndicated brethren on Premiere, they're amazing talents and great guys. Charlie in Miami, Charlie, what have you got, neighbor. Welcome to Miami. Thank you, sir. I love Miami. It's fantastic. Hey definitely born race here and love it myself, love the Santis, love Trump. I'm at the point now where Trump we gotta let Trump be up and you know, niceties and trying to get along. That doesn't work anymore. And Trump when he does this preemptive fire against Desantist, because Trump's already said his number one foe, even though he hasn't put his head in the ring, will be de Santist. So he's doing a little friendly fire. He's trying to see if he can keep him out of the primary. That's all he's doing. But now, so you're a Florist. So this is interesting to me because I actually wanted somebody who was a Trump person, who voted for him and is still planning to vote for Trump in the primary kind of no matter, I mean, assuming, no matter what, right, no most out. I has a Trump sticker still in my car right right now. I got you. I got you. So I wanted someone of your position to call in. But what I'm wondering is you're also a Floridian. So when Trump says that Desantist hasn't done great stuff in Florida, you're a Floridian, you're a Miami in. I mean, how it doesn't that land doesn't it sound like he's just kind of blowing smoke? I mean, you can't think that's true. No, obviously not. I mean, Desantist has done a great job, right, So so it sounds like you agree with me that you know try I'm not saying Trump can't criticize Decantist at all. I'm saying, let these guys play it on the primary. I'm just saying the criticism that Desantists hasn't done a good job as a Republican governor of Florida. I mean, to me, this is like saying, you know that the number one guy in the PGA tour, I don't even know who it is. Can't, you know, drive a golf ball. Well, you know what I'm saying, Like, it just doesn't. That's just not where you attack again. I just I take it as friendly fire. I take it as he's just trying to take de Santists off the board now then later, because if De Santist is off the board, who else has left? Nobody? And that's the reality. So once he clears the Santists, then he can start focusing on j A Joe and go that round. And he just said when he was in Iowa, he's already laid down some of his platform. You know, he's gonna prevent World War three, he's gonna go against Chatina, he's gonna you know, he's Russia, He's gonna get back in control. And so you're you're you're your Trump all the way. And I wanted to hear from from somebody who feels that way at this point. And uh, you do love Florida though, too, which is great because I also think, yeah, original original Floridian. Thank you for My wife is an original Floridian. By the way, it's always uh, always helpful. She's from the Orlando area. Rick in Wisconsin, what do you got for us? Rick? Hello, how are you doing today? Sir? We're great all across America. We're fantastic. What's going on? Well, I just wanted to weigh in on this Trump issue. I don't think he should be attacking to Santos. We're all on the same team here and here in Wisconsin, we just had an election not long ago, and we had two very strong Republican candidates who completely destroyed each other in the primary and that made it very very easy for our Democratic governor to we to rewin the election. And I just I don't understand why we're attacking each other and making it easy for the Democrats you know, Rick, I think that there's there's criticizing, and then there's trying to destroy, right, and there there's a there's a fine line. I get that they're gonna fight, thank you for calling and Rick, by the way, They're gonna fight, They're gonna argue, they're gonna have attacks against each other on different positions. M But as long as it's on the policy and doesn't turn into this person, I'll tell you. You know, people would say, oh, well, Kamala called Joe Biden, you know, racist on stage. Yeah, but Democrats call everybody racist. Right. So while that seemed at the time like oh my gosh, that's unforgivable, Democrats call everybody racist. So they could just say, you know, you're not really racist. We call everybody racist, right, That's what Democrats do. Um. I don't see Democrats usually trying to destroy each other in a primary. I think sometimes that does happen with Republicans. Maybe that's just my perception. Who want to avoid that. We want to go. You know, it's it's like they say in a boxing match at the beginning the ref right, we want a good clean fight. We want a good clean Primaria doesn't mean there's not going to be shots throne. It just means nothing, you know, no punches below the belt, no kidney punches or whatever. You know. I don't know the boxing rules that well, this is where I need clay clay, where are you I need boxing rule help? But anyway, next hour we'll be talking about the police situation in New York City. They're getting a lot of cops that are leaving the NYPD and they can't backfill them fast enough, so that's gonna be a big problem for them. Also, Joe Biden speaking to somebody on the Daily Show about transgender surgery for kids. The moderate Joe Biden, that's what they say, right, he's a moderate. You gotta hear what the current Democrat president, who's supposed to be such a down the middle guy thinks about transgender surgery for kids. Stick around,

Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast, Our two of Clay in Buck gets going right now, everybody, thank you very much for being here. And the positions of various GOP contenders on Ukraine. It's something that got a bit of attention last night. Tucker Carlson reached out his show and reached out to contenders for the GOP domination because we now have a full scale war going on in Europe between two advanced industrialized economies and one of them has a whole lot of nukes and a whole lot of energy reserves, and this is a big deal. It's also in the backdrop of all the things we're seeing economically play out right now too. You can't just leave all this stuff on the side. This is factoring into the sense of public unease right now. And I'll tell you this, Does it feel like things are good right now in the country honestly economically? Does it feel like things are good? On the world stage. Biden is soon to be out there telling everybody he is running for reelection and what a great economy it is. I mean, he's going to make these claims. The media is going to back him up. And I'm just here to tell you they're lying to you. They're lying. Do you you know that? But get ready for it because it should annoy you. It should be something that you find very frustrating. There should be a part of you that feels like, Wow, they are brazen, because what's their alternative to admit that Biden is an imbecile to agree with Republicans that many of the things, whether it's the reduction in pursuing fossil fuels that has happened because of the Biden administration, the decisions that have been made across the board when it comes to regulation, taxation, that all these things make us poorer, more depressed, less free as a nation, less prosperous. No, they're never going to met any of that. But Biden's got his handsful right now because there's only so much the media can do to make things seem better than they are. And on the issue of Ukraine and Russia, I do think that the GOP is going to have a bit of a fight on its hands here. Internally, Democrats are they're the party of if there's a war that we can fund or fight in that doesn't actually benefit America, Democrats are all in. Democrats and Lindsay Graham, sign them up, I mean, not to fight, but sign them up to send your children and your money to that conflict. Republicans at least tend to be more likely to there a lot of there's a lot of provisos, a lot of caveats in this because I just mentioned that Lindsay Am but there are others as well. But there are at least conservatives within the GOP tent who if there's gonna be a war, it's to protect us and protect our interests. Maybe maybe they're wrong about those interests, or maybe they're miscalculating, but at least that's their purpose. So what are we doing in Ukraine right now? And one are the various candidates for on the Republican side think about it. I thought it was very interesting that you had Ron de Santis, who is not yet running for president, and everyone is assuming that he will run, but we're not certain of that obviously hasn't happened yet. Here's what he shed about America's objective in Ukraine. And again hat tip to Tucker's show forgetting this information. And Tucker read this on Fox last night without question Peace should be the objective. The US should not provide assistance that could require the deployment of American troops or enable Ukraine to engage in offensive operations beyond its borders. F sixteens and long range missiles should therefore be off the table. These moves would risk explicitly drawing the United States into the conflict and drawing US closer to a hot war between the world's two largest nuclear powers. That risk is unacceptable. I agree that risk is unacceptable. I think that is an eloquent and well thought out position from Rhonda Santists on this one. Trump was in Iowa, and I mean he put this in. He also responded in writing, but I thought that he'd better to hear this that Trump said, this is clip three. He is the only candidate who will make this promise that he will prevent World War three. Play it standing before you today. I am the only candidate who can make this promise I will prevent World War three, because I really believe you're going to have he will prevent world Now, that's an important promise to be able to keep. That's something that really we all, you know what we're all. I would well, I think all Democrats would even go along with that one. Certainly all same people would go along with wanting a future Trump administration to be successful in keeping the promise of averting World War three. I think that's a that's a big deal. We all know that, So that's a central issue. I think you're going to see this getting fought out a whole lot more in public. I also think you're going to see an increase in the kinds of technology and the personnel and everything else that the Russians and the Ukrainians are putting onto their front lines. Going into the spring fighting season, the Russians have reportedly had a massive call up of more not just reserve US but conscripts. So this is going to be a fight that gets even bloodier, and it's going to go on for years. And the US has to understand now and has to have the discussion now about what our objectives are war and peace. This stuff really matters, matters to all of us. We've gone through twenty years of the American people having our men and women in uniform deployed overseas. Trump got us to the end of it. Biden did pull the troops out of Afghanistan, and you know, I keep saying this because I just want to make sure that we don't have four more years of Democrat because that's really forget. Biden is just the puppet Democrat regime, Democrat apparatus running the country. He is going to point to Afghanistan as a success, and it's going to resonate with a lot of people, not the war as a success, obviously the withdrawal, because memories are fading about what a debacle the actual withdrawal was and who we left behind mind and all people will know is when Biden says, you know, I pulled out the troops. He did, so that's going to be a useful narrative for him. The same way you're seeing Biden moderate on he's moditoring on fossil fuels. You see, he just is going to approve this project. The environmentalists are all upset about it. He's moderated on police. See he's saying we need more cops and he's not defund the police. And the Biden that you and I know, as in the Democrat administration that currently exists, isn't what is going to be presented to swing voters to independence and Arizona Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Pennsylvania. You get it. That's not what's what All the ads they're gonna run and all the media narrative is going to be, Oh, Joe Biden. Yeah, he's a moderate, he's a moderate. I want to get to how much of a lie that is in a moment, but I want everyone to understand that that's where this is going, that the reality of Joe. You're not running against the reality of Joe Biden, a decrepid, old buffoon who spent decades doing whatever would keep him in power in Delaware as a senator, you know, as a machine politician for the Democrat Party who was a joke to Democrats until five minutes ago. That's not who you ran against. Was, you know, moderate normalcy, always always grinning at people and saying that he feels their pain, and yeah, you know, we're all just human beings. Let's all just hug it out. It was the whole thing was a farce. He's the president. Now you're going to be running against the fiction that they're able to create with grains of truth behind it about Joe Biden. So understand that. Okay, that's one part of this and then there's this from from Donald Trump. I am a two time Trump voter. I think that Donald Trump, I'm wait, yes, sorry, two times I was like he didn't get two terms. Two time Trump voter obviously voted from in twenty sixteen and in twenty twenty. I think Trump did a very good job as president. There are some areas where I wish things had been a little different, but overall, a very good job as president. And I think that he has a lot to bring to the table now and I think he could be a very good president in his second term. I also think that he needs to have people around him who will tell him the truth, the truth about some of the positions he's taken. By the way, recently, some of the videos he's put out, some of the policy ideas really engaging, really worthwhile stuff shows both the ability to learn and the ability to project division for the future that I think would be quite good for the country. But then there's other stuff that comes out sometimes and I just look at this and I say, what is this? What is this all about? Why is Trump taking this approach? Who is advising him or maybe it's just Trump himself, but he needs advisors then to tell him, this is not the way, sir, talk about you as the leader of the party with great ideas that will raise up all Republicans and with it the entire nation be bigger than some of the petty stuff. This isn't twenty sixteen. You're not the guy that everyone's laughing at who has to show everybody who you know, the real, the real alpha dog is right that it's not twenty sixteen. You have been the president. There has to be a change. And I bring it up because that he put out this video and I want you to hear it. And if you think I'm missing this or whatever, by all means, I want to open up the lines. Like I said, I want to encourage the best of Trump, the best of his ideas, the best of what he's got. And you know we are in a primary officially, and so when I see this video, I think, no, no, no, this is not This is not people. By the way people say that it's it's funny. If I say maga, they say you're supposed to say maga. And if I say maga, people yell at me and say it's supposed to be maga. I mean, I think this is tomato Tomato. Right. Anyway, here is Donald Trump praising well you'll hear for yourself. Play clip one. For those of you that didn't notice, Florida was doing great long before Rond Sanctus got there. People are fleeing from New York to Florida and other places because of high taxes and out of control crime. It's really bad, not because of the governor. Thank you, mister President for doing that. But it's not because of the governor. Florida was doing fantastically. You had a governor named Rick Scott who did a very good job. Even Charlie Chris the Democrat, did a good job, but he had very good numbers. Sunshine and ocean are very alluring. It's not too hard to work with those factors. So just remember Florida was doing really well long before Rond Sanctis got there. Okay, first of all, this Sanctus nickname Trump Trump's nicknames used to crumble his opponents. Okay, a low energy Jeb. Jeb never covered for his presidency, never or a presidential campaign. Never recovered from that little Marco right with with Marco Rubio that was at the time. And by the way, some people say that this stuff is unfair and it's childish, But I'm just saying, at the time these things worked, say what you will about them, they worked. The sanctus I don't, I don't. I don't think so, I don't. I guess it's sanctimony, is what we're kind of going for here. It's just it's not clever enough, it's not worthy of Trumpian nickname. It's just it's just not gonna work. So I'm here to just be honest with all of you about what I see happening here in this primary. Look, it's still super early. Descendus isn't even in the primary, so why is he attacking a popular Republican governor. And then on the issue of what's happened in Florida, if all of you knew, the number of people in conservative media who have moved to Florida in the last three years is mind blowing. There's been nothing like this ever before in my lifetime in this country. So many of your favorite commentators, TV, radio, podcasts, you name it have moved to Florida and either doing partially you know, six months of the year or something like that, or here year round. And it's because this has become a symbol of something, something is happening in this state that the right and conservatism is seizing on. There's a momentum here. And you see this from the eight hundred thousand people who have I'm in Florida right now. You see this from the eight hundred thousand people who have moved to Florida since the beginning of the pandemic. You see this from the lowest crime rate the state has had in fifty years. It's always it's always had great weather, it's always had you in recent memory, at least low or no state taxes on income. So that's not going to cut it. And it was the best state to be in during COVID. I know because I was in New Yorker who had come down to Florida during COVID to experience normalcy when other states and other places I remember, I mean Texas, I was very disappointed in Texas during the pandemic. I love the state of Texas. I've thought about moving there to live many times in my life. But during the pandemic, Abbott was not very good. He got better, he got you know, he got wise on La COVID and lockdowns, but it took him a while Florida was the best state during the pandemic. We have to be honest here about what happened, where we had our victories, where we had our losses. And when you have not a single statewide elected Republican in Florida for the first time since the Civil War, that's different. That's not a normal thing. Praising Charlie Christ. First of all, he was a Republican when he ran the state, which is hilarious because Charlie Christ has literally been a Republican, a Democrat, and an independent. But this is not the way. This is not the way for Trump. I want. I want more of the ideas. I want more of the leader. I want the narrative. You know, there's a there's a time and a place for the brawling and the fighting. But for me, this it just didn't work. If you think I'm wrong by all means, let me know. If there are some Trump voters out there, and I mean obviously a lot of Trump voters, I mean people for whom Trump is the only option, the only option to take on Biden. If you like this or didn't like this ad, let me know. I'm very curious. Eight hundred two to eight eight two We'll get into some of that later on in the hour. So I think that's very It's look, it's it's gonna be a heck of a primary, folks, gonna be a heck of a fight. I think that much is clear. You know, nine hundred dollars a lot of money. 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Diane from Virginia, What have you got for us? Diana? I just can't support him the way he is now. I voted for him twice. Just cannot believe his anger and resentment and so many things that have really are destructed to this country. He needs to be taken on the current president the card democratic black laning black wingers in this country. Look, thank you. Yeah, I agree. I mean he should be saving his saving his fighting fury for the other side. I totally agree. And I just say, you know, President Trump should sit down, sit down with me, sit down with Clay, and just be like, guys, tell me honestly what's going on here, because I think the advisors around him not sir ving him well right now, not serving him well. It's been nearly twenty years since Mike Lindell invented the original my Pillow. At that time, it had everything you wanted in a pillow. But two decades later, Mike has had a technological breakthrough the two point zero version of the my pillow. 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He is the former CEO of the Hedgewater of the Hedge Fund Rather Bridgewater, candidate for US Senate in Pennsylvania in the last election cycle. A combat veteran West Point graduate, author of a new book that is out now, Superpower in Peril, a battle plan to renew America. David, good to have you back on the program. Hey Bus, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. So we got a couple of things, big things to get into here. First of all, breaking news just in the last couple of minutes, a Russian jet has collided with a US drone over the Black Sea and international airspace. I want to get into all the banking stuff. You ran Bridgewater, one of the biggest hedge funds in the world. You know the banking stuff very well. But first tapping into your combat veteran side. You went to West Point, you have served in different government national security related roles. How concerned are you about the trajectory right now in Ukraine. Well, I'm very concerned about it in the sense that you know, Putin is an aggressor here h He has challenged a sovereign sovereignty of Ukraine. And I think we are in the right position to be supporting the Ukrainians because I think it's in US interest. But we got to do that with a lot of care, and we got to make sure the things that we're sending there aren't being corrupted and used in ways it's inconsistent with the mission. And we got to be careful and incidents like you describe are the things that are unexpected. We got to be careful that US troops don't in any way get drawn in. So I'm I'm among those who think what's happening in Ukraine is an important US interest. I think China is watching carefully. But I also understand those who are skeptical, and we have to be careful not to get drawn into something bigger. Now, all under the financial side of things, there's a lot of message to clean up right now in a bunch of different a bunch of different areas of the world. Yeah, so tell us. I mean, first of all, is the bailout, the backstopping, whatever it is, is this the right thing to do? How do you see things as they are right now? Before we get into where the financial and sector and economics sector are going, But what do you think about what they've done up to this point? Well, I think you got to start and I'll be very brief, but you've got to look at how we got here because it answers part of your question. So we are here because of excess excess over the last ten years in terms of too much fiscal spending, but extreme excess in the last two years under Joe Biden, enormous amount of spending, forty percent increase in discretionary spending. We're an all time high in our debt of thirty one trillion dollars. And that excess of spending has been matched with extremely low interest rates for more than a decade. And as a consequence of that, we have inflation. And that inflation is something we got to control. And so the Fed, ironically, in trying to help stop the problem it created, raised interest rates quickly. And now we've got a gap between the assets and the liabilities, and that is across the whole banking sector. It's not just across the SBB, and that's the macro problem. Now. Second SBB, Silicon Valley Bank wasn't terribly man is a bank terrible risk management. It's appropriate that the whole leadership team got fired. But the regulators made a big mistake here. The San Francisco Federal Reserve should have known this. It's obvious what was going to happen when interest rates rise, that the balance sheets on the banks are gonna be underwater. They're gonna have to sell assets. And because these assets were so the deposits are so concentrated. It's created a real problem, not just for Silicon Valley Bank, but for others. Now, in terms of what the government has done, I think it's it's appropriate the equity holders lose their lose their money. I think it's appropriate that the credit holders lose their money. I'm very concerned about the bailout of these uninsured deposits and a mun I'm concerned for two reasons. First, you know, the guy who had the landscaping business and landscaped Silicon Valley Bank and the company would have ten thousand dollars. He lost that ten thousand dollars. But the rich Silicon Valley venture capitalist got one hundred percent on their dollars, and that seems wrong, that seems inappropriate. Second, we got a moral hazard. We got a moral hazard problem where there's eight trillion dollars of uninsured bank deposits. And so did we now just set a precedent where we're going to bail out eight trillion dollars of uninsured bank deposits if we need to. I don't think so. So we're sending a dangerous precedent, and that for that reason I would oppose it opposed a bailout of any kind. We're speaking of David McCormick. He's a former combat veteran ran for Senate in Pennsylvania in a tough primary there against doctor Oz and also is the author of a new book that is out, Superpower in Peril, about a plan to New America. All right, David, where is this all going? I mean credit suites? Back to the financial thing, because people are worried about their money, I think rightfully, so they're worried about their savings, and they're worried about their jobs. So what happens now? I mean credit suits? They're saying, has I think that, you know, systemic issues or something. There is some term that they used to say, it's not looking good over there. And there are some other banks I'm sure that also have similar problems, maybe not as badly as SVB. But do you feel like this is the beginning of a real plunge or is this something that if we handle appropriately or is handled appropriately, we're not heading into a major recession. Well, one of the things I've I've learned along the years is to just have humility about the ability to predict anything. Here, I would say that a couple things. In response to your question, The biggest important thing in banking is to have confidence. Confidence in the banking system. The deposits that old people put in the banks are not available to take out because they lend those, so there's a fraction of the deposits available. So people have to have eidence, and the government's try to take steps to put confidence in place. We'll see how much it works. The underlying problem that I described, where people have bought assets and had long duration assets and now they're worth a lot less is a big problem. And the inflation that we have in our economy is likely going to lead the Fed to raise rates to the point where we go into recession, and that is going to be very challenging for our economy. And it's part of the broader thing I try to address in my book about Superpower Imperil. I think this is just evidence of a decline. America's in decline economically from a national security perspective. Spiritually, and decline is not inevitable, but neither is renewal. It depends on what we do. And so my book Superpower Imperil lays out the plan for educating our people for confronting China and for securing America, and part of that is to get our fiscal house in order and to get back to more normal policy. We've lived in access for a long time, and whenever there's access, there creates all sorts of distortions in the markets. And that's what we're dealing with right now. Is there any way you think realistically that the Fed will be able to navigate these interest rate raises without plunging us into what even the Biden administration will have to admit is a recession. Yeah, Listen, I think it's gonna be very difficult. And you know, if you go back and I just read recently the book about Paul Volker during his time there, and what happens with inflation is there's you know, if you take the pedal off too quickly and lower rates too quickly, inflation comes back. And so you've got to break the back of inflation both with your movements, with your moves and interest rates, but also with your rhetoric and signaling. And I think it's going to be very difficult not to be very tough minded on inflation, because the inflation has an insidious impact on our economy and is very challenging for politically, so I think we're likely to go into recession. I think it's likely going to be a tough period, and that's why I think a renewal agenda is really important. There's lots of problems in the country just beyond the economic ones you and I are talking about, and so my argument in the book is that we need leadership as conservatives that's going to put great candidates forward that can win primaries and win general elections. Is going to put a positive agenda forward for how to solve these problems and uh, and it's going to do the work to get absentee ballots and voter registration so we can win elections and take the country in the right direction. And this book is meant to be a blueprint for how to do that. A battle plan to renew america superpower in Peril is the book Before let you Go, David, you're thinking about running for president because this book looks like the kind of book somebody might write if they were running for president. Well, first, I started writing the book before I ran for the Senate. At this point, now that the books time, my wife did tell me I got to get a job of some sort bucks. So I don't I don't think. I don't think she's very open minded about that. But I have I have been thinking about running for the Senate in Pennsylvania. I've not decided yet. There's twenty four centator CASEYC will be open for election, and so we'll think about that and pray about it and make a decision later this year. I suspect catch it. So maybe running for something fair enough. David McCormick, everybody's superpower and peril. David, thanks for calling in, appreciate it. Thanks, but thanks to talk to you. You know, we're big fans of the herbal supplement company Chalk. The product speaks for itself, but the ownership is really impressive too. Simply put, this Texas based company wants to make everyone they know healthier. During the pandemic, while people were eating more, drinking more, a lot of unhealthy takeout stuff, the gyms were closed, Chalk was advocating for healthier lifestyles. 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Get to your optimum health, learned, laugh and join us on the weekend on our Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast. Find it on the iHeart apt or wherever you get your podcasts. Eight hundred two two two eight eight two. If you want to chat with us here on the Clay and Buck Show, I guess to chat with me because today I'm solo. Play is out and he is just on a great vacation in Italy. He'll be back on Monday. We have some calls in here, Randy in a brass You are a Democrat who may go right, Well, Randy, you're in the right place. How do we convince you to come on into the light? Well? Buck quick calling me a communist and all those nasty things. But maybe you're not a commy. Maybe you're one of the old school Democrats that actually was open to reason, insanity, you know what I mean. So there's a whole range, sir. I'm all alienated by my party. I'm a Christian, I'm pro Second Amendment, I'm pro law enforcement, I'm pro military. But sounds like you're a Republican. I don't know what what is there left to figure out here? So keep going. I'm also pro labor and a few other and I'm pro public schools, so there are some issues there. And I am pro choice, but that doesn't mean i'm pro abortion. You know, you guys, the Republicans, you're always saying we've got to get the independence to vote for us. Yeah, I think you can get the independence to vote for you, especially the way my party's been going. But open the door. There there are those of us Democrats. Open the door. You know the guy that comes on the air following this show on my station. Oh nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, we're not gonna We're not. Are you saying he opens the door and is good about this? Or well? No, I just want to say, he's kind of like did you ever see the movie Boogie Nights? No, no, no, we're not, We're not, don't. I don't know who it is, but I don't want to thank you Randy for calling in. I don't want anyone talking about any of the other shows that may be coming on after or before this, because they're not here to respond one way or the other. And uh, I mean, if it's any of my syndicated brethren on Premiere, they're amazing talents and great guys. Charlie in Miami, Charlie, what have you got, neighbor. Welcome to Miami. Thank you, sir. I love Miami. It's fantastic. Hey definitely born race here and love it myself, love the Santis, love Trump. I'm at the point now where Trump we gotta let Trump be up and you know, niceties and trying to get along. That doesn't work anymore. And Trump when he does this preemptive fire against Desantist, because Trump's already said his number one foe, even though he hasn't put his head in the ring, will be de Santist. So he's doing a little friendly fire. He's trying to see if he can keep him out of the primary. That's all he's doing. But now, so you're a Florist. So this is interesting to me because I actually wanted somebody who was a Trump person, who voted for him and is still planning to vote for Trump in the primary kind of no matter, I mean, assuming, no matter what, right, no most out. I has a Trump sticker still in my car right right now. I got you. I got you. So I wanted someone of your position to call in. But what I'm wondering is you're also a Floridian. So when Trump says that Desantist hasn't done great stuff in Florida, you're a Floridian, you're a Miami in. I mean, how it doesn't that land doesn't it sound like he's just kind of blowing smoke? I mean, you can't think that's true. No, obviously not. I mean, Desantist has done a great job, right, So so it sounds like you agree with me that you know try I'm not saying Trump can't criticize Decantist at all. I'm saying, let these guys play it on the primary. I'm just saying the criticism that Desantists hasn't done a good job as a Republican governor of Florida. I mean, to me, this is like saying, you know that the number one guy in the PGA tour, I don't even know who it is. Can't, you know, drive a golf ball. Well, you know what I'm saying, Like, it just doesn't. That's just not where you attack again. I just I take it as friendly fire. I take it as he's just trying to take de Santists off the board now then later, because if De Santist is off the board, who else has left? Nobody? And that's the reality. So once he clears the Santists, then he can start focusing on j A Joe and go that round. And he just said when he was in Iowa, he's already laid down some of his platform. You know, he's gonna prevent World War three, he's gonna go against Chatina, he's gonna you know, he's Russia, He's gonna get back in control. And so you're you're you're your Trump all the way. And I wanted to hear from from somebody who feels that way at this point. And uh, you do love Florida though, too, which is great because I also think, yeah, original original Floridian. Thank you for My wife is an original Floridian. By the way, it's always uh, always helpful. She's from the Orlando area. Rick in Wisconsin, what do you got for us? Rick? Hello, how are you doing today? Sir? We're great all across America. We're fantastic. What's going on? Well, I just wanted to weigh in on this Trump issue. I don't think he should be attacking to Santos. We're all on the same team here and here in Wisconsin, we just had an election not long ago, and we had two very strong Republican candidates who completely destroyed each other in the primary and that made it very very easy for our Democratic governor to we to rewin the election. And I just I don't understand why we're attacking each other and making it easy for the Democrats you know, Rick, I think that there's there's criticizing, and then there's trying to destroy, right, and there there's a there's a fine line. I get that they're gonna fight, thank you for calling and Rick, by the way, They're gonna fight, They're gonna argue, they're gonna have attacks against each other on different positions. M But as long as it's on the policy and doesn't turn into this person, I'll tell you. You know, people would say, oh, well, Kamala called Joe Biden, you know, racist on stage. Yeah, but Democrats call everybody racist. Right. So while that seemed at the time like oh my gosh, that's unforgivable, Democrats call everybody racist. So they could just say, you know, you're not really racist. We call everybody racist, right, That's what Democrats do. Um. I don't see Democrats usually trying to destroy each other in a primary. I think sometimes that does happen with Republicans. Maybe that's just my perception. Who want to avoid that. We want to go. You know, it's it's like they say in a boxing match at the beginning the ref right, we want a good clean fight. We want a good clean Primaria doesn't mean there's not going to be shots throne. It just means nothing, you know, no punches below the belt, no kidney punches or whatever. You know. I don't know the boxing rules that well, this is where I need clay clay, where are you I need boxing rule help? But anyway, next hour we'll be talking about the police situation in New York City. They're getting a lot of cops that are leaving the NYPD and they can't backfill them fast enough, so that's gonna be a big problem for them. Also, Joe Biden speaking to somebody on the Daily Show about transgender surgery for kids. The moderate Joe Biden, that's what they say, right, he's a moderate. You gotta hear what the current Democrat president, who's supposed to be such a down the middle guy thinks about transgender surgery for kids. Stick around,