Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H2 - Adam Carolla

Published Jan 11, 2025, 5:02 PM

Adam Carolla tells us about his experience with the fire and what some of the issues in the state are. Are environmentalists to blame? The climate change crowd weighs in.   

Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show Podcast.

Second hour of play and Bock kicks off. Now we've got Adam Carolla joining us from California. You all know, Adam, Adam, appreciate you making the time for us under circumstances. We know a lot going on. It's a very tough situation. Tell us what you know, what you're seeing, and what everyone needs to be aware of.

So yesterday I went to the Equinox Gym on Sunset Boulevard and pch and I walked out of the place at about ten forty five in the morning, and I looked up Sunset Boulevard and I said, I think there's a fire up there, and that's exactly where it started when it started. Then I went into Glendale, California to do my podcast and subsequently came back to Malibu where I live at about six in the evening, sat down, and as soon as my aunt hit the sofa, we were alerted that it was time to evacuate. So packed up what I needed to get by and then drove out to Burbank, California, and checked into a hotel where I'm at right now. So obviously, I've been following it through the news and talking to neighbors and that sort of thing, but I've not been back since I left last night.

How's your home? Do you know personally how your home has been.

I woke up this morning to a neighbor telling me it was all gone, and then then the neighbor revised the report later on to maybe it's still there.

So that's a that's a big range of reporting from the neighbor, I'll point out.

Yeah, you know, sometimes the ladies jumped the gun a little bit with the information.

So I was pretty devastated this.

Morning, and now I'm in some sort of hopeful phase. But there's really not a great way to get information because you can't go down there and look for yourself. So you watch the news and you see little bits and pieces where you.

Go, oh, that's the restaurant up the street.

You know, you try to piece together cobble together some information, but it's pretty much just sitting on pins and needles, waiting to get back there to see if it's gone or not.

Now, Adam, you've probably seen the President already. Wait In has some harsh words for Governor Neuscomb as he calls him. So President Trump is going right after it here and specifically saying that there's been inadequate expansion to the water system and effectively inadequate preparation for an event like this by the state of California, perhaps by Los Angeles County. In addition to that, what is the truth of that? I mean, for people who don't live there, I think it's hard to know what's proposed, what's been considered, and what could have been done. I mean, do you have a read on Is there just growth? Is there grotesque in competence at play here in terms of the preparation for an event like this?

Well, I did twenty minutes on my podcast on today's show, which was on the subject of most of these fires are started by downed power line. So we have a decrepid power grid, and our power lines are not buried. They're up on power poles, and the power poles are eighty years old. So when the winds hit, they knock the poles down and the hot wires start the fire, and or when it gets windy, they just shut off all the power, so you have no power in the middle of trying to evacuate because we have a decrepit system. Keep in mind News is now putting more money into the high speed rail, which isn't high speed rail from Bakersfield to Merced, about one hundred and fifty miles way out of California, in the middle of nowhere. Nobody lives in Bakersfield or mersaid they're already eighty billion dollars over budget on it. And I did twenty minutes on why don't we take that eighty billion dollars or the two hundred billion dollars that's going to cost a build rail from Merced to Bakersfield, which impacts nobody, and use that money.

To upgrade our grid and bury those.

Lines up and down pch where the fire is happening and all the multimillion dollar houses, there's fire poles fall all over the place. One of their big problems is power lines. Everywhere the fire pole catches on fire, the power lines come down, the trucks can't pull in, and you can't evacuate if there's hot wires or even cold power lines on the ground that you don't.

Know are live or not.

It's a big issue, and it's insane that we have the same technologies they had in eighteen seventy five with the Power polls.

You've lived in California, not since eighteen seventy five, but a lot of people have moved in during your lifetime there, Adam, how would you assess we were just talking on the show. You know, if the hurricane God Forbid hits Florida, which happens pretty much every year of different varieties. Right now, Floridians feel very confident that their governor and their local government is going to do the best job possible responding to that hurricane. What do you think your average Californian thinks about the city and state leadership in California in terms of responding to something like this. What value add if any, is California getting from its political leadership or is it actually detracting from the innate goodness of many of the people in the LA area.

Well, you know, as you know, we're all sort of vibes and we want the first you know, African American woman fire chief and mayor, and we get all into that. But when the s goes down, then we want to know what's going on. You know, I was looking at it today and I realized we have an incompetent mayor Karen Bass, who is in India or something or Africa doing something collecting beads. I don't know what she was doing over there, but she's incompetence. We don't have a system of reservoirs and water collection and fire hydrants and stuff. It's all a mess. Obviously. The think about this, the places that just burn to the ground, the multi million dollar houses, and I'm not saying two million dollar houses, I'm saying twenty eight million dollar houses.

Wow.

The houses that burn to the ground in the community were Malibu Palisades and Santa Monica, all overwhelmingly blue, all Newsome voters, all Karen Bass voters. They voted for all of this, and now their houses are gone.

Yeah.

I mean that is kind of reaping what you sow on some level, right, Adam. And so many people have left California. I was talking about the number of UCLA and USC flags I see in my Tennessee neighborhood. Now a lot of them moved to to Florida, where Buck lives. Now, as a lifelong Californian, have you thought, hey, is it time to uproot and go somewhere else? Through COVID, I know you travel all over the country doing your shows. But has this maybe and many of the other things that have just kind of strung together calamity after calamity for Californians. Does it make you want to uproot?

Oh yeah, I bought land in Henderson or Fat, Nevada, and I'm literally leaving after my podcast to head up to Vegas and do some shows, but to go look at my land and meet with the architect and the builder. So, oh yeah, those plans have been on the table for a long time because all you do is pay taxes.

And it's it's three parts.

It's you pay taxes, you pay an aortent amount of taxes, you get nothing in return, and they wag their finger at you and want to know why you're not doing more or paying your fair share.

You get villainized. So it's not only.

The part where you don't get anything, and it's not only the part where you pay for everything. Then whenever these guys run for elections, they villainize the people that are keeping the lights on in California.

Why do you think, Adam, there, there isn't a faster recognition of what you're describing right there, Whether someone wants to call it, you know being being red pilled. I don't know seeing reality reacting to events with with common sense? Is is it just the ideological? Uh, there's they're so ideological. It's dug in that there's not enough suffering from the bad policy to make people want to try leadership. That's different. I mean Gavin Newson was supposed to be recalled and then he wasn't.

Yeah, I'll tell you there's gonna be a lot of converts. And I'll tell you where the where the conversion happens over to the logical side, over to the right side when you try to build something. So I'll be fast here. But I've been a builder my whole life. I had to pull permits on everything. When you have to deal with the city and pull permits, that's when you become conservative. And if you hear Bill Maher in the last five years sounding a little more like us, he brings up trying to get a solar shack built, right. He wanted to get solar power in his house. He had to pull permits. It took him three years. They wouldn't let him do it. And now he sounds like God because now he's pied because he doesn't want to bureaucracy. Bill Mahersh spoken more about bureaucracy and red tape and burdenso rules in the last two years than he has in the thirty years before that.

It's because he trying to do something.

All these houses and the palisades, all the houses in Malibu, all the.

Houses in Santa Monica.

When they try to rebuild, and a couple of those yentas from the Coastal Commission tell them no, or you're gonna have to wait in line, or it's going to take five years. That's when they're going to turn.

I know, we want your home to be okay. We want you and everybody else out there listening in LA to be fine. Questions that you're in the entertainment space. I know that you have been a Trump supporter for some time. Has the culture of Los Angeles and the culture of Hollywood expanded, as it is to many different locations creating content. How have you found it responding to the Trump election this time compared to in twenty sixteen and maybe in twenty twenty. Is there a vibe shift that you can feel?

Yeah, Remember all of Hollywood. Hollywood are mostly powered, mostly hypocritical power. Now, if you don't believe me that there's runaway production. They all film in Canada. Why they film in Canada they get a tax break. Then they come back to their homes in Beverly Hills and lecture everyone about paying a little bit more in taxes so others could get a hand up.

Right. So they're all hypocrites, they're.

All cowards, and they'll go with whatever flow the nation's go into, especially money wise. You've seen it with Disney, You've seen it with all these corporations getting rid of DEI. Now you've seen.

It with the tech ros.

So they will line up behind Trump just for commerce.

Well, that's a good thing, that's I think. Also we're seeing that at them with the break in the the corporate embargo boycott if you will, of all things Trump from Amazon now or is it Netflix?

Who is? You know?

Amazon's doing the forty million dollars deal with Milania for the bottom of the new Milania biography, right, new Millennium, Right?

I mean, are we going to see a lot more of that at them?

Do you think now they realize that they can't just continue to stiff farm half the country?

I think so.

And also I think as Trump's implemented plans bear fruit and start to be effective. And as the aforementioned Gavin Newsom and the Karen Basses and all the blue cities and the crime and the crime on the subway and the fires in Los Angeles, you know, as Los Angeles and New York City start to implode, and as Trump's policies bear fruit, I think You're going to wake up even the heaviest sleepers.

And I would add this to Adam, thanks for coming on with us, and we certainly are wishing you the best. You know this, and I've seen it happen a lot, the amount of times you're on a television show or you're on some sort of production and guys come up who have the cameras, or guys come up who are building the sets, and they just whisper, you know, something like, man, I'm with you, You're right about everything. There's actually a huge contingent even in the entertainment space, that agrees with a lot of what we say every single day.

Oh yeah, And it's always a sort of blue collar side of it.

So he's the guys on the.

Dark side of the bright lights, you know, Yeah, the grits and the cameramen. You know the truck drivers, all those guys, the teams. They're always the guys who quietly tell you they agree and then pull their mask back up real quick under their way.

That's right, Adam, Best of luck. Thank you for making the time. I know it's a crazy time right now out in LA. If you hear anything else you want to call in an update is fel free. We appreciate it.

Man, Well, thanks for having me.

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I know, it's a different issue.

It is.

It is heartbreaking for me to see just in terms of what happens when things go wrong in a place that you grew up and that you love. Heartbreaking for me to see people standing so far back in the subways in New York City because they're just afraid, yeah, their backs their backs literally to the wall when they're on the subway platforms because they're afraid of some maniac pushing them in front of an oncoming train. Because of some of the incidents that have happened in the subway recently. It doesn't have to you know, it doesn't have to be this way. And when you know, Adam, I thought that was really interesting when he was laying out the power line issue. I've also we've got a lot of people writing in by the Way to say that there should be more water collection mechanisms, that the water system and what California we know has water problems as it is, and and I think they've gotten a lot of rain the last year or two and there's been very little effort to try to gather that well, you know, to collect it for for later use in a reservoir in some form. So there's a lot that could be done. But why doesn't California have world class infrastructure?

Yeah?

Good to you think world class infrastructure? I mean, how much money have they spent on the high speed train to nowhere and the tracks that don't actually do anything? And then you think how much money have they spent on having enough firefighters and having enough gear in place to deal with something like this.

You pay fourteen percent state income tax and I paid it in California, and you don't have enough fireman. I think also the mayor just cut the fire budget last year.

So there's that.

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All right, So we've got a lot of interesting stuff coming in here on the email front about the situation in California, the wildfires that are breaking out there. We'll also get some of your calls here eight hundred two eight two two eight A two. Joan writes. The travesty of the California fires is that original settlers and forest managers developed the fire control measures that worked over many decades. They realized long ago that they were living in a desert region and the Santa Ana winds were very dangerous if there was a fire. They employed controlled burns, fire pits, and other measures to prevent the spread of fires. Experts predicted that the fire risks would increase when enviros started their insane lawsuits a few decades ago. The legislature could fix the problem with the lass, with the laws to permit sound forestry management. However, it is California here, Clay. I would I would point out this that I think one of the great frustrations a lot of people have as they see this unfold is while we're saying, look, you know, I understand the most important thing now is your thoughts and prayers go for everybody who's affected, Go to everybody who's affected, and that emergency services do the best job that they can and save as many people in houses as as possible. There is always going to be a conversation about the response, the political leadership, the culpability or the lack of preparation in that for that leadership. But you know, they also always want to make it about climate change. And I think that that, unfortunately is it's a very deeply ideological divide. And I think it also means that you don't get to focus in on things that would actually help. Saying that the global temperature is increasing whatever they think that it is on a yearly basis is not helpful in actually dealing with this at all. But it then turns you see what I mean, all of the focus and energy becomes diverted from immediate actionable measures to do something about this too. Hey, it's climate change. Now we need to pass some bill in Congress, you know what I mean? Yeah, And actually bucket kind of ties in. I was reading a great piece in the Wall Street Journal a couple of days ago about critical race theory and how it actually just stise the argument itself. In other words, they get it completely backward that actually Western civilization is what allows critical race theory to even exist because without Western civilization, we would all still be living in such poor environments that nobody would be able to worry about race and gender and ethnicity. But what I'm hearing from a lot of people is climate change actually is preventing the situation that would provide more help for issues associated with climate right, So in other words, we should have way more reservoirs to be holding water, to be able to provide more water for the people in Los Angeles area. To your point, we had a really great winter, I believe in the Sierra Madre Mountains. They now have filled up the reservoirs to record levels over the last generation or so, but we don't have enough, so we still lose a lot of that water, which is what Trump has said.

It goes out into the Pacific Ocean. It isn't recollected. And one reason we don't have more reservoirs is because the climate change people are concerned about the impact of the reservoirs on the climate. So then you end up with this situation where it becomes almost a self fulfilling prophecy because you're not fighting the actual ravages of the climate. As as Adam said, and also as the guy who called in who used to fly plane said, this is something that existed throughout the history of this depography. Right, It's not like wildfires just started in LA now. They've been going on for as long as Los Angeles has existed as a community.

Yes, and long before. You would think that also improvements in technology. I saw people sharing online that even if power went out in their area, they still were able to stay or rather, if the internet went out in the area, they were still a bit to stay on because of starlink and how and that meant that there is additional communication capability in some of these areas that have been hit by you know, outages because because of the fire. You would think that with increased technology and also the increased impetus of more and more of these kinds of how more and more housing and habit you know, inhabitants in some of these areas that we know are at risk of these fires, that they would have more sophisticated systems in place. Instead. It just feels like, as you're watching this and it's devastating and it's a gut punch just to see this happening to you know, our fellow American's fellow human beings. It looks like not very much is done at all to improve the overall infrastructure. I mean, I'm not saying not much as being done by the firefighters in the front lines now, I just mean in terms of the state of California getting it in advance of this and exceeding previous capabilities to be able to blunt this kind of a fire. It's it seems to me like a lot of people writing in saying the same thing, which is that this is this needs to be addressed. Pete writes in California has a water system built fifty years ago for a population of twenty million. The state now has forty million people, but the greenies have made it impossible to enlarge the state's water system. The state needs more dams, which create reservoirs needed to store the snow melt from the sierras and screw the delta smell.

Yeah, that's what I've heard from a lot of people, is that there needs to be more reservoir building. The problem is that, as he just laid out, you got the environmentalist to say, oh, no, we're going to have an impact on the insert fish or you know, random bird or random salamander. And as a result, you have to deal with this in the LA area and I don't. That's what's so frustrating about it is the people who are making the argument about climate change are actually making the climate more dangerous based on the policies that they implement and endorse. And it's like, to your point, Buck, the cognition like it doesn't connect. Oh, we're making things worse while we're trying to advocate to make things better. It's like they can't process that connection because they're so focused on their own moral righteousness associated with climate change that they don't understand the consequences of their own actions.

Yes, and that means that you wouldn't get the kind of respond I mean, you're you're not getting the kind of action and response to to fix these things from a you know, a community or a collective. Dare I say, you know, there shouldn't be such a divide over like, well, how do we agree how do we deal with this in the future, Like when you have a bad hurricane Clay and if they don't have you know, if the levee isn't big enough, or if they don't have enough resource, everything can sort of agree with these with these wildfires. I mean the front page the New York Times. I've seen the past, it's, you know, well, this is why we need to pass a bill, you know, mandating electric cars. It's like, what are you people talking about? That's that's not what the problem is.

I think also it ties into your question, and you have a unique perspective on it because you're a lifelong York City resident. What happened in normal city? Yeah, oh yeah, oh careful, I don't want the tax hounds on your scent. What had to happen, you know in New York City was New York City got so awful that people were willing to elect Rudy Giuliani and they were willing to say, hey, you know what, the crime is so bad, the just deterioration of city living is so bad that we're willing to change our trajectory. And I think that happened in twenty twenty four. A lot of black, Asian Hispanic voters finally said, looked around and said, our community actually getting better. What's going to take for LA to make that choice?

You know?

Karen Bass against Rick Caruso was that battle right, and Caruso lost because to Adam's point. All of these left wing liberals said, oh, Karen bass is our solutions, She's our salvation. We got to have a black woman running Los Angeles. Well, now she's in Ghana. The city's burning. Rick Caruso is rightly pointing out that there's also of flaws responding to this crisis to many of those people. Do any of those people make the connection that their vote has the consequence of making their life worse. That's what has to happen. It's almost like an intervention. You know, you can be an alcoholic, but until you recognize that you have an issue with alcohol, everybody else pointing to it and saying, hey, dude, maybe you should have less to drink, it doesn't register until you make that connection inside your brain. And frustrating because some domes it takes a long time for an attic to recognize the addiction.

Yeah. Absolutely, I'll take some calls coming up here, and also we'll talk about you know, Fetterman on the Clay mentioned this, Fetterman on the immigration issue making some sense and not the first time. Also Democrats what they are not willing to go along with it them It's pretty stunning stuff. We'll get to all that here coming up in just a few minutes. Bear Creek Arsenal manufactures some of the finest firearms in this country at a price point that will surprise any gun owner. I've owned firearms for a lot of years, and I'm telling you, Barcreek Arsenal has got the best quality at the best prices out there, pistols, rifles. I am duly impressed with them. I've got a few Bear Creek Arsenal farms myself, and let me tell you, I gott the range with them. They're accurate, they feel good in my hands. You're gonna love them. They manufacture their products in North Carolina. They don't rely on retail stores. Just one of the ways they get you. They're great pricing. Stay updated about everything happening at a Barcreek Arsenal go to Barcreek Arsenal dot com. That's Bearcreekarsenal dot com. One more time, Bear Creekarsenal dot com.

We are breaking down the absolute latest and awful situation in Los Angeles wildfires continuing to spread our thanks to Adam crowa comedian who joined us at the top of the second hour listening to the show regularly awesome guy. His house may or may not be burned down. He doesn't know, but he kind of took us into the window of what life in Los Angeles surrounding these wildfires is like. Will continue to break all that down. We come back top of the next hour. We're going to pivot a bit. There's a Lake and Riley Act that is now in front of the Senate. John Fetterman went on with Fox News did an interview. I think he's going to vote for most of the Trump cabinet nominees, not least, because he sees the way the wind is blowing, for lack of a better way to describe it, in Pennsylvania, where a Democrat senator lost Dave McCormick was elected, and where Trump won by roughly one hundred and twenty thousand votes in that state. His Senate seat still several years away from being up for reelection, and he will be in the twenty twenty eight cycle, however, which is a big deal because that means that he'll be running in a presidential election year as opposed to an off year cycle. And I think he's recognizing that will mean a lot of voters who otherwise did not vote in twenty two and we'll see whether or not he can stay there. But I want to tell you this, buck, I am drinking Crockett coffee right now and it is absolutely phenomenal. I also signed over one hundred books yesterday because you guys are signing up at such record levels. We appreciate all of you. We want twenty twenty five to be the year that we officially are able to start buying ads all over the place in media that we support that I know that you guys will support, and we do that with the subscriptions. We haven't taken a single dollar out of this company. We're not going to do it for some time. We donate ten percent of the profits to Tell of the Towers, but every other dollar rolling right back in to the company to continue to grow. We want to set big number records in twenty twenty five, and we're going to do that because of you. We've got an incredible story to tell. At some point we'll probably tell it with the business side, but this is a testament to you guys how much you love American history. Subscribe right now, use codebook. You get an autograph copy of my most recent book, and you get delectable coffee de livered to your door, light roast, dark roast, medium roast, decaf, and organic, with much more coming rolling out in twenty twenty five. Big things to come. Go check it out at Crocketcoffee dot com and make sure that you don't miss it. Buck I mentioned this, I was going to hit you with the data on U hauls, and I think it actually kind of ties in because we've had a couple of callers talk about leaving California. This is four straight years that California has led the nation in departures. Listen to the states where people are moving. South Carolina number one overall, Texas number two, North Carolina number three, Florida your home state now number four, Tennessee my home state number five in that list Tennessee, Florida and Texas no state income tax. Where are people moving from Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, California. This is as we get ready for twenty twenty eight and twenty thirty two in the presidential election cycle, they're going to be redoing the map. In twenty thirty there is a profound shift in power that is moving to red states that is only continuing to accelerate, and I think a lot of you listening to us right now have found yourself moving to states that more reflect your values. Red states are thriving, and I think this is going to end up buck being maybe the biggest legacy of COVID overall is the amount of power rolling into these Red states and the amount of population growth economic growth that's going to follow.

I'm living it here, right, I mean, you're a born and raised Red Stater and Tennessee is still going strong and doing great and getting a lot of the people that have decided they'd had enough elsewhere. I sit here as somebody who I look. I mean, until not that long ago, so I thought that New York was the single greatest place in the entire world. I really believe that. And I had done a fair amount of traveling some pretty nasty places for the CIA, but I had done a fair amount of traveling, and I just thought New York City was incredible. But with COVID and everything else piled on top of it, it just felt like too much had gone too far to ignore it. And I think a lot of people are recognizing that you have a tremendous amount of advantage in your career as well, if you're flexible at being able to move. You know, it used to be for certain jobs, Clay, you had to be in certain places. That was very much the case. And I know they're bringing more and more people back into the office for investment banking, for example in New York things like that, But if you want to be in finance, you really had to be in New York City, you know, certainly twenty thirty years ago. And now you know, people open you know, hedge funds and they do it wherever they want, and they open mutual funds and they can live anywhere in the country. So yeah, it's it's a different demographic America, you know, going forward because of what happened during COVID. And I also still believe, maybe this is am I am I convincing myself of this Clay that there was still in the back of people's minds a lot of frustration in this last election about COVID stuff that oh, I think you're right to it. You know, I didn't get talked about. But I still feel like people the overall sense that the Democrats there was madness there, there was something where some kind of insanity had overtaken the Democrat Party. It was COVID in the and the gender madness. You know, those were the two areas where I feel like it was just too much.

And this is what I was saying yesterday for those of us who were right on almost everything COVID and trust me, it was a small group, particularly in the media. I know a lot of you were right in the way that you lived your lives. We're not going to get a definite. Hey, I was wrong. I think I missed up yesterday and said that Martin McCarey was getting What did I say. I think I said that he was maybe getting the I think he's get the CDC. He's going right, Yeah, I think I think I said FDA. I think I screwed that up. I think he's getting the CDC or whatever it is. You're seeing these guys get elevated who were right about COVID, doctor Bodacharia out in out in California, the people that were the most outspoken about this in the scientific community, in the medical community, Fdachi been chosen to do that. Yeah, I wanted to make sure I got that right. But that's as close to an acknowledgment of wrongdoing that we're going to get, just like the Zuckerberg statement that we talked about yesterday. That's about as far as people are going to go is saying hey, I'm changing everything, but not acknowledging in the process that they were wrong about everything. This is about as good a vindication as we're going to get. I think you're right. I do think it factored in in a big way in the twenty twenty four elections, because I meet a lot of people out there still who say, hey, this was the first year I ever voted for Trump, that something had to change in order to move them in that direction.

The single biggest moment I think of policy for the income administration play is going to be seen on the illegal immigration issue. Let's dive into where that stands, and also this s Betterman comment that has gotten a lot of attention, and where the Democrats are on deporting illegal criminals.

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