Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck - Jun 1 2025

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Sunday Hang is brought to you by Chalk Natural Supplements for guys, gals, and nothing in between. Fuel your day at Chalk dot com, bold reverence, and occasionally random The Sunday Hang with Plain Buck Podcast. It starts now Stephanie and Kentucky wants to weigh and we're taking some calls. Final hour of the week. Happy Valentine's Day. Stephanie, what should people watch?

Well, I have a very unconventional pick, but if you'll give me like fifteen seconds to make the case for it for the couples that are maybe not into romantic comedy, so you've got to have an understanding girlfriend or wife who's not expecting romantic comedy. But one of the most romantic movies I think is out there is actually Spartacus. And I know this is probably more of Buck Sally maybe Uclay history guy, but it's it's very subtle, but I think it's the most romantic movie out there, just like the the artistry of making.

Can I just tell you, I'm gonna make this pitch to carry and I'm gonna put this on you, Okay, I'd be like, honey, you know what romantic movie we should watch? Tonight Spartacus about the slave re vault against the Romans.

Yeah, to be okay with a little gladiatorial combat and ancient civilization warfare. But if you can put up with that mixed in with again really subtle but super sexy romance, I think I think it's a perfect movie if you have a girl who's into that.

I actually liked the I think it was like a cinemax, which anytime you say cinemax now people think, I.

Don't know where you're going.

No, you stopped that, sir. There was a remake of Spartacus. It was a series, though not a movie. Very very it was like three hundred. They kind of did a three hundred approach to it.

Which is I love that movie.

By the way, it's a I think three I wish they had done a whole bunch of historical graphic novel three hundred kind of things.

But the Spartacus show was do you know what I'm talking about? It was very good.

It was it was one of those channels I do know what's talking about. But I'm just laughing about your cinemac start. I'm like, are you going to tell us about a man? You?

Well, this is the thing Cinemax.

It just turned into Skinemax, and everybody thinks of it that way, which is pretty remarkable for a channel like that. But I never saw I never saw such things. If any of the B O O B s comes on the screen, I have hurt my eyes and change the channel right away. Skin Amax, remember that was they called it.

That's what.

Yeah, Stephanie. By the way, thank you for the call. I think it was Stephanie. I'll just point out Gladiator actually has pretty romantic aspects as well. She's mentioning Spartacus. Pam in Rhode Island. Pam, what do you suggest?

Hello? One of my most favorite movies ever in the world is called Moonstruck with ship Yes, and it's got Nicholas Cage, Vincent Gardinia, and Coccus. It's excellent.

I hear that movie is great and I have never seen it. So I'm actually gonna take this recommendation to the bank. I'm gonna tell carry we're watching it. Thank thank you for the call. I think it's a great call. That is a very famous I jotted down do you have one that you legit? I mentioned anyone but you because it's recent. Glenn Powell Sidney Sweeney pretty entertaining. Do you have any that you actually think I'll give you well, I'll give you three that I jotted down. First of all, we had a dispute because there is sometimes.

Way category bleed over here.

But you gotta draw some lines here, Clay, can I just throw you under the bus for a second. Clay's like, my favorite romantic comedy is Happy Gilmore, Like, that's not an romantic comedy. Billy Madison, Billy Madison, the wedding singer, not giving me credit for those Okay, you did say maybe on this one. Wedding crashers, Wedding crashers, legitimately hysterical movie. Again, there's a balancing act between is it more comedy or romance? Historic? Like you know, like meaning that it's a classic when Harry met Sally? What about clueless? You're a clueless and then nineties it's a great movie. Great, it's a great movie. U. There's something about Mary. Probably you're gonna say more on the comedy side, that's comedy, Groundhog Day, comedy, all right, groundhog great movie.

All right?

And here is definite comedy, I mean, sorry, definite romance. Love actually love, Actually I find that one depressing. I find that depressive. Well, I mean, the guy is in love with his best friend's wife. That dude, vote him off them. I'm not saying that every single part of love actually is incredibly Alan Rickman of Hans Gruber Diehard Fame getting his sort of office, you know, the office tart, the necklace and the wife finding out. Give it away, the whole show, you give it away the movie. It's been twenty something years if you haven't seen it. Gerard agrees with me, and Gerard is a man's man, he knows what's up. I'm just saying, forgetting Sarah Marshall, romance or comedy, which come down on that. I like that movie a lot, and it is the best. It is the best thing Russell Brand has ever been in by far. And I would say comedy not I don't think it's a romantic. I think you're probably gonna say comedy on forty year old virgin. Yes, yes, when they're ripping his chest hair off, you're not wondering is who's he gonna end up with at the end? All right, So those are mine? So what's your answer? What would you did you give me? Wedding crashers, because wedding crashers is legitimately a Clay is playing. He's dancing along the edge here with this stuff. He's doing a lot of like like frat frat boy comedy sets, like Old School is a love story. He's a tremendous It's one of the great love stories of our time. Basically the Romeo and Juliet of two thousand and two. You know, I think, if you're really talking rom coms, the top of the genre, which I may have been forced to watch by various girlfriends in an earlier life, things like you're talking Sleepless and Settle, You've Got Male. These are awful films, Friend's Wedding, I know, But that's the real canon of rom com. See you're, You're, You're, You're blending comedy into rom com separate genres like Animal House is not a rom com, it's a comedy. Like you need to have This is not nom There are rules, Clay, like you.

Need to be.

And and I think that those those movies, really, uh, those kind of typify the the romantic comedy. You know, who was really dominant Dinner for a while with Julia Roberts. You know, my best friend's wedding and she was in it. And also Hugh Grant was in all these movies. Matthew McConaughey did a bunch of them. Who's the pretty girl that Matthew McConaughey did a bunch The daughter of Goldie Hawns. Yeah, yeah, Goldie Hawns daughter Kate Hudson. Kate Hudson was in all these movies back in the day. I like Kate Hudson. I was a fan. I was a fan George Roberts fan, to be honest with you, So I really I'm a tough customer. Pretty woman is. My wife was about this the other day because that's sinister and disturbing movie. It is like for a movie that was like considered to be heartwarming and everything else, Like it's Act Clay.

It is bizarre. The whole thing is terrible. This guy finds a street walker and pays her and falls in love with her, and like, the whole thing is nuts.

Yeah, And anyway, I have not watched it recently, but my wife came across it on Classic Film Network or something, and she was talking about it with me. She said, have you really I was like, no, I haven't thought about pretty Woman and you know, thirty years or however, forty years however long reminds you that, like the you know, second Missus Doubtfire reference to that, which I is still a movie that I love. Second Missus Doutfire reference if you have not seen it, the YouTube if Missus Doubtfire was a horror movie trailer is one of the great Like it's it's timeless. It is so fun because they take the actual trailer and just change the voiceover and the commentary and you're like, this is.

A terrifying movie.

The whole premise of Robin William dressed up in this like fat old lady suit and like hovering around children.

It is creepy, but it's a great movie.

I mean, they've done a great job with that. I just watched Cobra Kai the Conclusion with my kids last night, which was great. The Karate Kid extension that's on Netflix, but I'm sure you've seen the Daniel was actually the bad Guy compilation from Karate Kid where they make Johnny out to be the good guy and like everything Daniel did, and it actually they reference it in Cobra Kai some but it is actually super fascinating. The way they can put things together. We were watching Lioness. Carrie wanted to watch it. You know, a lot of sort of girl power stuff. Just if one of you knows Taylor Sheridan, I respect the good work that he's done in some other projects Lioness Slapdash. Tell him to hire me as a consultant so that when he actually has people talking about the CIA, it doesn't sound like someone just scanned Wikipedia for fifteen seconds has absolutely no idea about anything.

Nothing.

Taylor Sheridan, I think is making so much money that at I mean and the Yellow Show throw a little bit my way so that his show about the CIA isn't clown level, because it's clown level. I think he's making hundreds of millions of dollars a year. And uh, I actually we should invite I don't know that you would come on, but we should invite Taylor Sheridan on the show. I don't know if it'll come on now, Thanks klay Well. I I'm like Buck, I'm impressed with your entire he loves tell Sheridan Sundays with Clay and Buck.

It's really funny.

You know, we we the show never stops here, so we're always talking to the team, and we go from trying to avert you know, nuclear war in Ukraine to uh, dating advice in the modern era. You know, we we jump topics here, like nobody's business.

There's always always more to be said.

We leave some of it on the cutting room floor, but we've got we've got a lot of a lot of stuff having conversations about you know, uh, you know the DM slide. You know, if you're a single guy. If you're a single guy, I don't think this is a probably know you slide it into dms. You know, I'm prominent people recently or prominent individual recently was in the news for a little DM slide that got the well it went beyond the DM slide, but the point is, well Elon Musk has got another child, so uh And it originally occurred because he jumped into the direct messages. For those of you who don't know, you can send messages on social media and everybody has like, hey, I think you're cool, let's talk. You know, it's it's not a problem. How many direct messages when you were single in New York City do you think you sent? I've pleaded the fifth on the like only I mean, for the record, very few, but I plead the fifth on even trying to give any kind of a actual number here for people out there who don't know what percentage of couples like, let's take away being in the same school or being at the same work right.

Who meets online these days?

As you can say, think it's like half at least half, or couple it's more than half because because also people are generally you know a lot of people sort of say them at one wayhere they met another. It's sixty to seventy sixty seventy percent now of people are meeting their partner and then you know, eventually even their spouse through some form of online you know, people use Instagram as a dating site something. Did you meet your wife online? I sent her a message on LinkedIn, I mean sorry, not LinkedIn, not linkedinned.

You are sorry? Sorry? No no, no, no, no, we I mean we were aware of.

Each other from fox and she thought she at one point was following me on Instagram and then realized I had a girlfriend at that time, so that it was hands off. And then I was single again, and then I found out she was single, and then I reached out Ali as can Ali pull up to the mic. Here you're married to Gerard, the most masculine man on the planet, but you slid into his DMS after you met him?

Well, disclosure, I certainly did you.

Met him at a party?

Like we initially met at a party, And were you following each other or you sought him out and just went straight DM.

We both sought each other out online and.

Then I but you sent the message to him first. What did you say?

What's up to?

Basically just you up? Ali just went straight you up? And now she's married.

Uh no, I I asked him what he was doing and he said right now at this moment.

I said, oh sure, and he said coming to meet you. So then we met him. Wow, and now you're married and happily ever after. I see all of this social media universe. I was I was married before technics. He would have had to be on like uh, you know, Christian Mingle or something back in the back in your days. He would have had to use a dial up like AOL Internet.

You know.

Clay would be like you've got mail, Like, heyually met each other face to face and and we actually had conversations. You guys are just throwing hell Mary's out there, got like twenty different messages flying out no idea. Hey sportsman, sportsman, you only need to catch one hail Mary to win the Super Bowl, My friend, that's true. It's true. Well so that but that that is the backdrop to the story about Elon having more kids and everything. Here's my take on Elon, and I may be in the minority on this. Elon is the most brilliant successful person in all of America right now. In my opinion, I think Elon should have as many kids as Elon can take care of because I want his genes creating the next generation of genius. Now, other people out there don't have my same take. I am super pro Elon as well in terms of his I mean there's no question he's the most important CEO, the most visionary CEO. What he did for free speech and politics in this country by buying it, I mean it's amazing, it's amazing, all due respect and all that, but every kid wants a dad, and if you're not around. And I also I think it was a I think it was like my parish priests of this to my mom a long time ago, and she passed along to me.

You know, if you.

Want to if you want to love the child, love the mother. For the husbands out there, it's a very important, very important maxim as well to love the child, love the mother. So I think you want to be around I think that everyone wants a dad. I grew up around a lot of very privileged as an understatement kids in Manhattan.

Uh.

And the ones who had broken families or separated families or whatever, Clay, I'm telling you, they would have they would have rather had fewer private jet trips and more time with dad. Well, the data also reflects boys in particular are the most broken by dads not being in the house. In other words, younger girls, I think, because they see their mom, who tends to have custody as the role model, do not suffer as much as young boys do from not having a man in the household. And honestly, we had the conversation about this last week because I went and talked about why young men are breaking in the direction of Republicans the University of Chicago. I do think buck a big aspect of young men struggling in America today is and this is me getting on my me, climbing on my you know, prespicire my pedestal. A lot of dads are failing at dadding, and a lot of grandpas are.

Trying to pick up. The first rule of being a dad is being present. That's right.

And I know, I know other thing's not perfect, and I know people have problems or whatever, but you know, yeah, it's so I'm contradicting myself a bit here because I do think the dad in the household matters a tremendous amount, particularly for you. I would say, you're you're looking at it through over the macro survival of the human species over the next dollars of years, which is my concern. By the way, this is why I tell my boys, hey, get married and have as many kids as you can, because the population is collapsing. This is my thing where everybody's like, oh, the seas are going to rise like four inches, and you know, you're not going to be able to go to Newark and have as much fun in Newark as you used to.

And I'm like, do you guys not.

Realize the entire global population is collapsing and South Korea is not going to exist in one hundred years, and Italy's not going to exist and Japan's not going to exist. This is my calamity. Buy in, like, we got to have more kids, and ultimately kids are in endorsements and investments in the betterment of the future. And it ultimately to me, reflects an international depression that so many young people out there are afraid to bring new life into the world. This is what I worry about. And you know, I think that on the right we've fallen a little bit into this. Yes, it is true, judge not lest you be judged. It's not about judging any one individual or I think you should be able to have conversations where you can say, look, this is what this is what the aspiration is, right. I mean, as Christians, you aspire to to you know, to live in the in the in the way of Jesus Christ themself. You're never going to get there, right, but you still there's something you aspire. You're trying, you're trying to hold yourself up to an ideal. And I think when you're talking about the parenting stuff, and you know, Elon and all the kids, again, Elon's amazing in so many ways.

We have a lot of respect for that.

But I do think that it's important that people when they can you.

Know, you want a mom and a dad.

Yeah, and you can't be a mom and a dad when you have eight different moms and fifteen kids or thirteen kids or whatever. It is the way that you otherwise could now with someone like Musk, you're talking about also a person who is maybe going to like help save the human species. I mean, you know, there's other I understand there's these other factors. So it's not to criticize Elon. And you know, no one's perfect, and I get all of that, but I do think it's okay to still say out loud, we really do want a mom and a dad at home taking care of the you know, taking I don't mean in terms of like chores and that labor differentiation.

But kids need a mom and a dad. Kids need a mom and a dead you know.

And there's a lot of talking left and living right, and once you see it, you can't unsee it. We've talked about it some on this program. A lot of people out there who claim that they are ardent leftists, do you know what they do in their own life. They're married, they have kids inside of a wedlock, They raise those kids, put them in private school, oftentimes live in gated communities where their families are protected. And meanwhile they tell you, hey, left wing ideals are to be aspired to, but in their own life they talk left and live right.

And that is true.

Go look at the successful Democrat politicians out there. Most of them live behind the wall. Most of them try to be married and raise their kids. They put their kids in private school. It's just kind of fascinating. Was a great line about I give credit to him. Was it Michael Moore back in the day. I think it was Michael Moore who said, you look at the Democrats and their constituency on the floor, but then when you look at the suites, it's all a lot of rich white people. You know, they got all the diversity down on the floor. Look at the delegates, Look how representative of the world they are. And then you start to rise and you look at like the super expensive suites that surround the convention. It's a bunch of super rich white liberals who are pulling the strings for so much of what's going on, and they're living differently than the values with which they would otherwise associate themselves very often. So yes, you can talk about the genius of an individual, while also discussing how no one is perfect and there are some things that maybe should be done a little bit a little bit differently, or you know, aspirationally, we could all want something

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