Welcome in everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
Ninety one days.
That's what they were saying, at least Clay on morning Joe, as I was drinking my Crocket coffee because I do have my Crocket here this morning, they were telling me that, and they were doing everything they could to puff up the sense of historic conquests that they are telling the Democrats they're going to have here with this victory insight. Kamala Harris, Tim Walls not to be confused with Waltz.
Thank you to our Minnesota listeners.
We realize Walls and we're living in an alternate universe now, but that doesn't mean that we could ignore the people who have created this alternate universe. We have to defeat the madness. We'll break this down. I think that the overwhelming sense on the conservative side of things right now is what we were saying yesterday. I mean, I really, Clay, you know all morning it's prepped for our show, and then sometimes I can see what some of the sentiments are from some of our friends and colleagues on the right afterwards, and I did not see a single person still who thinks that this is a smart pick, but I want to break it down. I want us today to get into the policy differences, the record and make sure that we all have clarity on exactly who, not just Tim Walls is, but also what this Kamala Harris Walls ticket is really all about. I mean, this is the most left wing and it is not an exaggeration. It is not some you know, talk radio talking point. It is the truth that this is the most left wing Democrat ticket certainly in our lifetime. And I think you'd have to go back to what Eugene Debs running as a straight up socialist maybe, and even back then the socialists were a little bit less crazy than the left wing Democrats are now. But here we go. Let's give you some examples of what we're talking about here with Walls, they are presenting him Clay as a cuddly coach and veteran who wears you know, lumberjack shirts and goes hunting, and he's a different kind of Democrat. And we're here to just remind every it's all afront all a facade, what he looks like, how he dresses, if he chooses to go hunting on the weekends or not does not matter. What matters is what does this guy stand for? What does he do with the power that he has been given by the people of Minnesota in previous elections. The answer is he is a pro trans lunacy, far left wing pro BLM, burning down neighborhoods in the biggest city in his state.
Radical.
That's what he actually dands for. He is the guy who set up a COVID snitch hotline. Oh, somebody got out of their house to go play basketball. They're a risk. Let's lock them up, or let's give them a fine. Call your police officers. It was nuts here he is Clay. I mean, there's so much here to go after. Here he is saying that this is where he's doing the whole folks. See the folks, see dance for everybody.
Oh, I'm just such a good old guy. You can trust me. I'm a Midwestern guy just like you. Oh, come on, this is cut four. Listen to this. Some of us are old enough to remember.
When it was Republicans who were talking about freedom. It turns out now what they meant was the government should be free to invade your doctor's office.
In Minnesota.
We respect our neighbors and their personal choices that they make, even if we wouldn't make the same choice for ourselves.
There's a golden rule. Mind your own damn business.
That's not the golden rule. But put that aside for a second. The guy who set up the COVID snitch hot line for people who wanted fresh air is presenting himself as the for choice and for freedom guy Clay.
It's just all a lie. It's all a facade.
It's a total lie.
And again, I think that is really important that he's trying to pretend that he's for freedom while he's supporting a candidate that wanted to mandate that everyone have to get the COVID shot, even though we know the COVID shot is effectively worthless. Right, I think even left wingers now are who got five and six and seven and eight of those COVID shots are like, yeah, it's basically at best kind of a tie and all for COVID and it hasn't really altered the trajectory of the virus at all. And meanwhile, these companies have gotten fabulously wealthy. But to me, what it is buck in many ways is clarifying about Kamala Kamala is a chameleon. She is trying to be all things to all people. Right now, we are sitting at what day seventeen since she became the nominee effectively, and she still hasn't done an interview, She hasn't come off a teleprompter, She hasn't even done an unscripted interaction with real voters in any of these jurisdictions. They are trying to hide Kamala because they know that she is a gaff prone machine that is actually pretty unlikable when she is off the prompter. What is intriguing to me is it's working so far, and this is why I get nervous about this process. Thirty days from now, vote start. So whatever the universe is in Trump VI. Kamala, the snapshot of that universe is continuing every day. And what I'm saying there is we don't have an election day anymore. We have an election season. So if you're popular after Labor Day, that gets locked in, that snapshot of that day gets locked in with millions of voters all throughout the next ninety days. And so my concern is, you gotta knock Kamala off that prompter. And I don't think there's anybody in media that's actually going to argue that she needs to do it, and they're going to try to hide her. That's the entire campaign.
Now, will she debate or not is certainly a question in all this. I can see Democrats. Remember I thought Biden wouldn't debate, and let me be clear, he shouldn't have debated. Had he not debated, he would be the nominee and I would be picking out an overpriced piece of meat that Clay would be buying for me at a fancy establishment instead of the other way around. Joe should not have debated. That was a huge obvious error. Now should Kamala debate? I think it's different for her Clay, because first of all, she's been calling out Trump for not debating her right, so it will look bad to there's what's right and there's what perception will be. It's clearly absurd for her to call Trump out and then walk away from a debate herself. But I also think that this is where what's right and perception line up. People would say, come on, that's wimpy. You don't get to play this game where you call out somebody and say I want to debate you and then they say Okay, let's do it, and you go, oh, actually, I don't so I think she would run a risk there. I do know that they're going to do everything possible to keep this as stage crafted and managed as tightly as they can. You know, they've got David Pluff, who is a senior Obama campaign guy now, who's like top advisor for the Kamala campaign. Some of the Obama you know, top echelon have all jumped in now to get involved with Kamala. So they're they're throwing a lot of heavyweight behind this. She's raised more money in one month than I think any person ever. But it's not really a fair comparison because it's like she started a new campaign with two months to go. Like, you're gonna have to condense all that money. Everyone knows that, right, I mean, you're just condensing, you know, isn't it like like Nascar is once a week, so Nascar ratings versus Baseball ratings. Baseball is like every five seconds, right, So it's yes, not fair to compare one to one on the ratings. See I just did sports now, Klay's proud, you're concerned. Here's why I'm less concerned, or I would even say I'm I'm not concerned.
I think Trump's gonna win. Here's why.
I think Kamala is at her absolute peak right about this week into next week. I think this is the highest she's ever gonna go. I think there's nowhere to go but down and being within the margin of error for a Democrat candidate who has the whole machine behind her, I don't think it's gonna cut it. That's my Rose scenario, but that's what I believe.
I think that they're going to do one debate. I think that it'll be a fairly standard presidential debate, by which I mean both sides come out saying our side one. It's like a boxing match where both guys raise their hands above the end of the air afterwards, and then you know, the judges at MSNBC are going to talk about how amazing Kamala was. The judges at Fox News are going to talk about how good Trump was. And it's in that sixty forty realm where it's hard to really argue that you got to knock out or that it massively impacts.
The direction of the race one way or the other.
That's my expectation on what a debate between the two would be like and so, and then I think they go back to claiming victory putting Kamala on a teleprompter. My concern, this is my big concern structurally for the race.
Right now.
Trump is due doing media everywhere. He called into Fox and Friends this morning. I think he took calls from random people on Fox and Friends asking him questions, which, by the way, he's asked about doing on this show before and maybe we'll do.
At some point.
I think that explains and demonstrates his facility and talent to be on his feet responding to real voter questions. The problem is, whenever he colors a little bit outside the line, the media reacts as if it is an astounding statement that he has made, and we get a ton of coverage from people saying, oh, look, Trump is a malignant dictator all over again. Meanwhile, Kamala just reads off a teleprompter, doesn't say anything. They're not playing the same style game. And my concern is that the Kamala hider in the basement campaign that they perfected using COVID as an ex use in twenty twenty, and that on some level they used for Fetterman in twenty twenty two is the road map, and that might be enough to get her across the finish line.
Here's here's my.
What what keeps me from falling down into the pit of Clay's despair?
Over here?
Okay, here's what I've Here's what I've got in the back of my mind. Joe Biden for all of his faults, all of his flaws, all his shortcomings, which we discussed in detail on this show, for every year and every day of his presidency, apart from the sinility issue entirely.
We discussed you know that he's he's really.
Kind of fake, and he's you know, he's actually not a nice guy, and there's all these things he says anything and fine.
He's the he's really the prototypical politician.
When you think of a politician in a negative context, you know, it's like if you think of an ambulance chasing lawyer, you think of like better call Saul, or somebody who just will do anything and you know, desperate to get that next client and to lie and have them wear the brace in court. Biden's like the quintessential slimy politician. However, his whole story of being Scranton Joe, riding the chu Chuo with his lunch pale, loving the union folks, and being one of the union guys that resonated enough in some parts of Pennsylvania, some parts of Michigan, some parts of Wisconsin that he did better than expected in twenty twenty with the white working class voters. Okay, with those white working class voters. I cannot see a world in which those voters, and I bet we have some listening to us who maybe went Trump, then Biden and now are thinking what am I going to do? I do not see Kamala Harris winning them, and therefore I do not see how she has a has a She obviously has a path, but I do not see her winning Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. I do not see it happening based on that one demographic. I know, there's women, and there's all these other things that there's the minority vote, there's all these things we can talk about. I think that Kamala is weak on the white working class vote. And I think that I mean non college educated another way of saying, really the same, that's the demographic, right, non college educated white guys with jobs, and a lot a lot of them listen right now, Our on are part of our audience. I don't think they apart from the super solid conservatives. I'm talking about the ones who are independence, I don't think that they see Kamala Harris and want to cast a vote for And I don't think Walls changes this.
Does that make me feel a little better.
Walls is a bad pick that made me feel better yesterday. The concern that I have is I don't know that Kamala is ever going to actually answer questions from anyone, and as a result, I don't know what the major potholes are for her. Like I don't think Trump benefited from doing me an ABJ. I think that that substantially hurt his campaign. But Kamala didn't do the NABJ, and she benefited from what Trump's doing that she's unwilling to do again. They're playing by a different set of rules and that's my concern, and I'm gonna tell on ninety days I agree with you absolutely on the NABJ. The Black Americans who are going to vote for Trump are already going to vote for Trump. He shouldn't waste his time chasing more black votes between now and the election as a concerted effort. There are some great Americans who are black are going to vote for Trump.
And that's fantastic and hopefully I'm not saying maybe the numbers even bigger than has been the past. I'm just saying he's not winning any of that. He's not winning any substantial percentage of the black vote between now an election day. He's getting the percentage of the black vote in ninety days that he was going to get yesterday.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, that's not a worthwhile endeavor for him.
He should be doing the Trump thing, going after white working class voters in the swing states, buying them big max, giving them high fives, talking about how he's going to be tough on China, talking about how he's going to have a booming economy that helps them afford their groceries, that helps them pay their rent or their mortgage, and helps them maybe save up and buy that business of their own that they get to run, whatever it may be. You know what I mean, that's if I'm Trump. That's Oh, and talk about immigration a lot. I mean, I totally agree with you on the top three topics.
Top three issues, Crime, over and over again.
But he should be.
Going to tell guys who you know, a lot of the time make a living with a hard hat on, or you know, we got the truckers, welders, plumbers. He needs to be telling them in the Swing States, I'm your guy, because he is their guy. Walls is a phony and we're going to talk more about that here in just a second. Look, you're gonna hear Kamala Harris use words like women's reproductive rights a lot in this campaign.
She said it, she says it all the time.
I'm actually and what you won't hear are her talking about the rights of babies that are unborn. That's not going to happen. So we know what the Democrat Party stands for. We know what Kamala and Walls and these radicals believe when it comes to the right of babies in the womb to have life.
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Coming up one are the worst things about Walls the vice presidential possibility for Kamala Harris, or rather appointee for Kamala Harris. We'll get into that the worst of walls coming up. In an effort to keep you even more informed, I've got a new weekly newsletter that I want to tell you about. I'll be sending it every Monday afternoon after this show, and it's going to be a deep dive in what's going on in the world how your family finances might be affected by those events. I'm collaborating with the writer Brad Thomas, who has focused on our stock market for decades, making sense of the market reactions to big news. Brad has helped hundreds of thousands of Americans understand the real story about what is happening in America and showing people how to build true financial security. Together, we'll be publishing the weekly newsletter with the help of a company wide mote research so that you can make key moves to position yourself to take advantage of what's coming. To sign up for free go online to this website, the Urgent Message dot com. That's the Urgent Message dot com. All right, let's get down to brass tacks, shall we, with this Walls character, this guy next door communists. All right, I see exactly what's going on here. We're gonna talk about it a bit today because obviously it's still very much in the news. I think that this is all gonna switch back by next week to because the jd Vance pick just happened pretty recently, what two weeks ago?
Now?
The Tim Wall's pick happened yesterday, so we and it was a surprise. So I will say one one quick thing before I get into the worst of Walls and you and I, you know, you and I I'm not sure we see. I think our top three is going to be the same. I think the order of our top three may be different. So let's see three worst things about Wall. That's a good question from our perspectives. Yes, So I'll give you my three worst in order, and then I think, you know, we can we can hear from you. Also, we'll have just you know, Miranda Devine joining us later on the program from the New York Post. She's got great column on this end. And our friend Sean Parnell in the second hour, because they're playing up the veteran angle a lot for Walls. Sean is a combat veteran. Sean saw very heavy combat in Afghanistan, wrote a memoir, best selling memoir about it called Outlaw Platoon. Shawn's as real deal as it gets. We're going to talk to him about this because Walls, well, I don't want to get ahead of myself, but a lot of people in the veteran community are saying.
Well, hold on a second.
Yes, he served, but there's a thing that's interesting or problematic perhaps about his service. So we'll get into this with Sean as well. But first off, I thought this was really interesting. I did believe and this is why it all happened so fast. And my sources about Democrat stuff are obviously at time. I mean, look, I do watch Morning Joe, so I feel plugged in Clay, you know what I'm saying.
I mean, Mika and I.
They are probably I'm trying to think of a phrase I can use that isn't aggressively borderline. They are probably proved that they have no gag reflex with Tim Walls as the nominee. I bet that they think that basically he is Santa Claus come to life for Democrats. I mean, I have not watched it, yeah, that coverage, but I watched it all morning. I mean, they're they're glee and also they're just it's all about how positive he is and positive for the future, and it's a campaign of hopefulness and it's and it's so great. And they say that unlike Trump, who always says how terrible America is, which is one of the one of the really dishonest attacks on Trump that Democrats have been lodging for a long time. No, he says the Democrats make make stupid decisions and ruin things, particularly major cities. That is true.
But Trump understands also the greatness of America, which is why he is still very much running and I think still going to win if he stays focused and disciplined. There is an asterisk if he stays focused and disciplined, and the whole Republican Party does too. And make sure that the Shenanigans either don't happen or are caught red handed in a way that can be taken to any honest court and given a real hearing on it. So anyway, what I wanted to get into, though, Clay, was Josh Shapiro not to be confused with Ben Josh Shapiro. Which that was a fun headline from the Babylon Bee. It's just it's like, how could things get crazier?
Oh?
Well, if Ben Shapiro was the VP, I know he wouldn't be. It's just kind of funny. Josh Shapiro, Why didn't he get it?
Did you see this? This is from left wing sources?
Yeah, yeah, I read this.
Kamala didn't want to be overshadowed. I think that Kamala's insecurity and vanity may have been the prime mover here, the primary decision maker that pushed her away from Shapiro, which you and I were both concerned about. As as how that would I do think that that would make Pennsylvania very hard to win. I think that her vanity may have made her go with Walls, and this might have been the the mistake that shows what else is coming.
That's why to me and I will dive into Walls because I do think it's important. Most people don't know him, what does he represent? All of those things, But the VP pick tells you more about the president and his thought process and what he sees from a strategic perspective or she sees than anything else. And so to me, Kamala not standing up to the left wing of her party and not being willing to say Josh Shapiro is the pick. Let me ask you this, buck. If Josh Shapiro's last name, I saw someone tweet this might have been at Aary Fleischer. If Josh Shapiro's last name was Walls, and if Tim Wall's last name was Shapiro and they were otherwise the exact same biography, is there any doubt that Kamala picks Shapiro Walls, that is, the Pennsylvania governor who isn't Jewish. In other words, I think if if Shapiro is Christian, he is the pick, even if Kamala is unhappy or uncomfortable with his star appeal, because ultimately she's still the president. I think the only reason Josh Shapiro wasn't picked is because he's Jewish and there is a strong anti Semitic left wing base that would have refused to come out and support him aggressively. You buy that if Josh Shapiro were just a Christian guy, make his last name walls, flip them. Is there any way that Kamala still makes the same pick.
I think that's I think your analysis is sound, but I can't necessarily get to the definitive conclusion because I think the Kamala.
Factor here is very is very powerful.
I do buy security playing in here, too, That she is an insecure leader, yes, And I think that she probably has advises around her telling her that it's all gonna come down to her anyway, and that all that matters is that she like this VP and have good chemistry with him. And I think that's how. I think that's how the situation unfolded, because otherwise it's from a If you're sitting at a table strategically, this is not the smart move, right, If you're just having the nuts and bolts of what is most likely, what is the most likely action to bring about a win?
I think this is clearly not not the case. But I honestly think no.
Let me let me say this too. I'm curious if you would buy in.
Sometimes you overthink things and you move away from your natural reaction, and your instincts end up being overridden by over analysis. Have you seen this happen a bunch where like on a flash, you look at something and you're like, this is the pick, and then you look at the binders and you listen to everybody talk for a long time, and you end up overthinking an issue. I also think that might be in play here because Shapiro is such a no brainer pick that I actually think they over analyzed and ended up making an illogical pick.
I also think that factors in here, so.
We can you know, we can return to this if you want the next hour or two, because we have some we have some sound bites. I want everyone to hear as well with this. But if you're looking at the worst of walls, the worst of this guy in terms of specific issues or moments from his past decisions that he has made, I'm going to give you, in descending order of in my mind, worseness or worseness, I would say number three for me, and I'm persuadable to change these. Number three for me is abandoned his abandoning his battalion as a sergeant major before right before they went over to deploy. He's within his rights to do it. It wasn't illegal, was it didn't break any rules. But that's a tough one. And we're going to talk more to Sean Parnell about how he feels as a veteran about that, the COVID hotline and just the COVID tyranny in general. But the COVID stuff number two, But for me number one, Clay, that he was so not just impotent but also really ideologically aligned with the BLM riots. Yeah, and you talk to people from Minnesota and they say, look, I used to spend my I used to go to Minnesota in the summers and my dad and my brothers. It was one of those places you'd go to is in New York or that was so safe. You're like, is this even America? You know, there's no crime, everyone's nice to everybody. That's changed in the last twenty years, really in the last ten years, and Walls has presided over this. Yeah, A big part of it is his adoption of the kind of racial Marxist attitudes of the left and the BLM. So his wife saying that she enjoyed smelling the burning tires from the riots. I think that's gonna haunt him. I think that's unforgivable for any normal person as people. So you know, do you have the same order, and do you think those are the three worst?
Number one?
We agree, I have Minneapolis failure because that's the specific job of the governor. Your job is to make sure that your communities don't burn down. Your job is to protect innocent citizens. And he let Minneapolis burn because he was too much of a coward to get crosswise with BLM. So Number one beyond the shadow of a doubt, which is why I find it the most shocking that Kamala made him the choice, because it reinforces the bail fund she raised money for, and it reinforces Democrats down for months all over the country, and letting our nation burn Minneapolis's biggest failure.
Beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Second COVID to me, when you have a rat out your neighbor line that you endorse and people are getting called because they're outside playing basketball or because they have their neighbors over for a birthday party, and you've got neighbors ratting on neighbors for living normal lives during COVID. That is another failure. Again, it goes profoundly to me to the essence of the job itself. So to me, Minneapolis and COVID are disqualifying two walls to be able to get a promotion that would put him a heart beat away from the presidency. And then the third one. I want to hear from Sean Parnell more about the military the decision not to go to Iraq. I obviously didn't serve. So I don't feel like I am as sharp on being able to analyze this as you would be based on your background and when you get shipped into dangerous places, and Sean would be. So I want to hear more about that from the people who have been in that world.
And everyone who's been in that world knows. I mean, there are there are tiers, right, There's did you deploy? And then there's and I don't just be in the military sense, because by the way, there are a lot of contractors who did very dangerous stuff and saw combat. I mean it's not just serving the military that can put you in a position of all the way up to combat. Right, But there's did you deploy to a war zone. If you're in the war zone, did you ever get out into the red zone and take that risk? And then there's did you ever actually see active combat?
Right?
I mean where you basically ever shot at and returned fire or vice versa. And to get to the point where you don't even go to a rock when you've been training these guys and that's supposed to be your unit. Again, We'll bring Sean on because I think that's a perspective we need to hear, which is somebody who is a combat veteran, so he'll be with us in the next hour.
My third one is the trans embrace. I can't get over as somebody who has three kids that are all minors, the idea that you could create a law where you're trying to potentially take kids away from their parents if they don't aren't allowed to have minor surgery, putting tampons in the boys' bathroom like this.
I think your list may be better than mine.
I might have to move up number three to four and replace that with the trends things.
So that is my top three. The top two are definitely disqualifying. The third one is incredibly problematic. For me as a parent. And we'll talk about this again as we roll forward Miranda Devine and and join as Sean Parnell and more. But I want to tell you guys all about Hey, look have you been paying attention to how crazy the markets are right now? Up, down, all sorts of movement. Don't be checking your four oh one k on a day to day basis. If you're getting near retirement age, you know what's been going up consistently gold Because gold, for basically all of human history has been a reliable method of valuation and even when currencies have fluctuated, even when markets have fluctuated, and you can diversify a part of your savings into gold as a smart play. Just look at the value of gold and silver over the last half dozen years. Owning one or both is a hedge against inflation. They're a physical asset in high demand globally from central banks and foreign countries. Through our friends at Birch Gold Group, you can own physical gold and silver and attack sheltered retirement account. As an easy example, you can diversify an old IRA of four to oh one k for no money out of pocket into an IRA in gold and silver. Text Clay to nine eight nine eight nine eight and receive a free no obligation Infolkit again Clay to nine eight nine eight nine eight with an A plus rating with the Better Business Bureau thousands of happy customers. You can trust Birch Gold like we do. Text Clay to nine eight nine.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We mentioned we're going to talk with Sean Parnell in the third hour of the program about the military service of Tim Walls, something that they are turning into a big part of his overall electability and why he was the choice that he was. Mary in Maine, you say your daughter served in the Middle East with the Minnesota National Guard.
What is your story? We appreciate you calling in Hi.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, We've got you. Thank you?
Ok.
Sorry, Well, to back up on this, Nicole grew up in Maine. We live in Maine, and she had finished her commitment her seven year commitment with the Army reserves here in Maine, but because of nine eleven, everyone was put in what is called a ready reserves, So she was in the ready reserves. She thought she was done and could continue on with her life and do whatever, and received a huge packet in the mail. She was not home. She had moved to Boston, and she's and I said, well, you know this was forreficial call. They want me to sign this for you, and so shy, I gotta go ahead and open it. Well, what has happened is that she had been called back in as a paramedic. Period. She had thirty days to get ready and to report to San Antonio, Texas to meet up with the Red Bull Minnesota National Guard, and so she was deployed. She was there for two months, and then she was deployed for twenty two months, got blown up twice, lost seventy five percent of hearing. She never batted an eye. This is a little girl from Bangor Moon who took the place of a man who would like to be the vice president of the United States of America. She went to Iraq for twenty two months, the longest deployed unit in the history of the Irian Iraqi conference the longest. Sorry. I had a big dog and she never she never batted an I and she wasn't from Minnesota. It wasn't her state's commitment, but she went. She's gone.
Now I lost her because she didn't come back the same and had a lot of other issues, but because of being some of the things for two things.
And I miss her terribly. But you know, if if she hadn't gone, she would have never ever accepted it in herself. But I hope he understands that other people fulfills their commitment.
Thank you for the call. It's a powerful story. We're sorry for your loss, Buck. I think we're going to hear this from a lot of people, and you've already hit on it. The idea that you would leave your unit and not go be deployed in Iraq is for many people an indefensible decision that Tim Walls made.
I mean, when I was in the CIA, Clay, I told you this. They said, look, we can't force you to go anywhere, but if you're going to work the rock desk and you're going to sit across from soldiers who have been over there, and you refuse to go in the country, How are they going to take you seriously?