Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. One of my favorite lines Buck from the Office, Michael Scott says, well, how the turn tables have turned? And I am quoting that roughly, but he's trying to say the tables have turned, and boy, oh boy, has that happened in a big way in the state of New York. I'm going to dive in here because it is positively delectable. We've also got Maine being sued by the Department of Justice Attorney General Pam Bondy our friend Riley Gaines in a press conference this morning. I can't believe this is real, but they're having to sue because Maine is refusing to implement Trump administration rules which would not allow men to which would not permit men to win women's championships. Basically, men can't compete in women's sports. One bit of news there. Maybe we'll dive into this a bit later. The Supreme Court of England has ruled that trans women that as men pretending to be women, are not actual women.

Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. One of my favorite lines Buck from the Office, Michael Scott says, well, how the turn tables have turned? And I am quoting that roughly, but he's trying to say the tables have turned, and boy, oh boy, has that happened in a big way in the state of New York. I'm going to dive in here because it is positively delectable. We've also got Maine being sued by the Department of Justice Attorney General Pam Bondy our friend Riley Gaines in a press conference this morning. I can't believe this is real, but they're having to sue because Maine is refusing to implement Trump administration rules which would not allow men to which would not permit men to win women's championships. Basically, men can't compete in women's sports. One bit of news there. Maybe we'll dive into this a bit later. The Supreme Court of England has ruled that trans women that as men pretending to be women, are not actual women.

And JK.

And JK.

Rowling, who has been incredible on this issue. I never would have thought that the Harry Potter author would end up being an complete warrior on this issue. Many people in England are exulting over the fact that their Supreme Court has finally weighed in. We will talk about that and more, but I wanted to start with this for you, Buck because this news hit last night, I believe, and I actually think it's incredible, and the news is and we're going to play you a cut from Harris Faulkner's show to kind of explain this in detail. But essentially, Letitia James has been caught on multiple forms where she applied for mortgages committing fraud in order to get a better mortgage rate. Now the irony here, of course, is she accused Trump of lying and inflating his assets to get a lower rate on his commercial business loans, his real estate transactions. So that is more complicated because there was, and this was Trump's major defense, a huge investment bank investigating in a substantial way Trump's assets. As happens for anyone out there that has ever taken out a loan of the magnitude that Trump is taking. Whereas Letitia James and her lies on the forms are very concrete were committed by her. There isn't some big investment bank overarching relationship here as would happen in a major business transaction as applied for Trump, So basically what she is accused of doing buck, among other things. There are at least three different mortgage fraud lies that she appears to have committed. The most prominent and the easiest to apply is she is the Attorney General of New York. She lives in the state of New York and is required to live there. On a mortgage claim or a mortgage request application that she made in the state of Virginia in the Norfolk, Virginia area, she checked on that form that she was in fact a resident of Virginia, that her primary residence was this Norfolk, Virginia home. That is an open and shut case. And for those of you who have ever applied for a mortgage, your primary residence rate is substantially lower because the risk profile of it is quite different. You are living there in theory yourself. This is an open and shut case. She's caught in that claim, and I'll talk about a couple of the other ones, but this one is easy. I think everybody would understand it. She said she was living in Virginia to get a better mortgage rate. She cannot live in Virginia as a as a requirement for being the Attorney General of New York. As one might imagine, she is required to live in New York State. This is an open and shut case. She lied on a mortgage form. I'll get to the two others, but this kind of brings home for a lot of people out there. They accuse you of what they have actually done. I think she's in serious trouble here and this is going to lead to prosecution. Well as Clay and I both know. I thought you were. It's funny. I would have thought you might have jumped right into this. This is a big subplot from the show of The Wire, which I will say is one of, in my opinion, the best TV shows of all time. Yes, if you haven't seen it, everyone I know in law enforcement says, for the time that's twenty years old, but for the period, they have the right lingo. They you know, they have the right understanding of the bureaucracy. It feels almost like a scripted documentary. I think you could say anyway, The Wire's a fantastic show. I think it holds up. But there is in the Wire a politician. He is a charismatic black man by the name of Clay Davis, and he gets caught up with the drug gangs down there. There's a whole I can't get you know, that's five seasons of a show. But what do they finally get them on? Kind of the capone tax evasion thing. They find out that it's very similar to this. They've got him on mortgage fraud.

Rowling, who has been incredible on this issue. I never would have thought that the Harry Potter author would end up being an complete warrior on this issue. Many people in England are exulting over the fact that their Supreme Court has finally weighed in. We will talk about that and more, but I wanted to start with this for you, Buck because this news hit last night, I believe, and I actually think it's incredible, and the news is and we're going to play you a cut from Harris Faulkner's show to kind of explain this in detail. But essentially, Letitia James has been caught on multiple forms where she applied for mortgages committing fraud in order to get a better mortgage rate. Now the irony here, of course, is she accused Trump of lying and inflating his assets to get a lower rate on his commercial business loans, his real estate transactions. So that is more complicated because there was, and this was Trump's major defense, a huge investment bank investigating in a substantial way Trump's assets. As happens for anyone out there that has ever taken out a loan of the magnitude that Trump is taking. Whereas Letitia James and her lies on the forms are very concrete were committed by her. There isn't some big investment bank overarching relationship here as would happen in a major business transaction as applied for Trump, So basically what she is accused of doing buck, among other things. There are at least three different mortgage fraud lies that she appears to have committed. The most prominent and the easiest to apply is she is the Attorney General of New York. She lives in the state of New York and is required to live there. On a mortgage claim or a mortgage request application that she made in the state of Virginia in the Norfolk, Virginia area, she checked on that form that she was in fact a resident of Virginia, that her primary residence was this Norfolk, Virginia home. That is an open and shut case. And for those of you who have ever applied for a mortgage, your primary residence rate is substantially lower because the risk profile of it is quite different. You are living there in theory yourself. This is an open and shut case. She's caught in that claim, and I'll talk about a couple of the other ones, but this one is easy. I think everybody would understand it. She said she was living in Virginia to get a better mortgage rate. She cannot live in Virginia as a as a requirement for being the Attorney General of New York. As one might imagine, she is required to live in New York State. This is an open and shut case. She lied on a mortgage form. I'll get to the two others, but this kind of brings home for a lot of people out there. They accuse you of what they have actually done. I think she's in serious trouble here and this is going to lead to prosecution. Well as Clay and I both know. I thought you were. It's funny. I would have thought you might have jumped right into this. This is a big subplot from the show of The Wire, which I will say is one of, in my opinion, the best TV shows of all time. Yes, if you haven't seen it, everyone I know in law enforcement says, for the time that's twenty years old, but for the period, they have the right lingo. They you know, they have the right understanding of the bureaucracy. It feels almost like a scripted documentary. I think you could say anyway, The Wire's a fantastic show. I think it holds up. But there is in the Wire a politician. He is a charismatic black man by the name of Clay Davis, and he gets caught up with the drug gangs down there. There's a whole I can't get you know, that's five seasons of a show. But what do they finally get them on? Kind of the capone tax evasion thing. They find out that it's very similar to this. They've got him on mortgage fraud.

Now in the show.

Now in the show.

By the way, I'll just say i'm quoting the show, they call this the headshot because mortgage fraud is easy to prove, very hard to defend, and the penalties are actually quite severe. The average mortgage fraud offender who has convicted Clay go goes to prison. It is a car siral sentence, usually for a couple of years. Now you can get up to thirty years. That would obviously if you did this on a systematic, I think grander scale. But and there's state law, there's federal law, a lot of things coming to play here. But Clay, here's another thing that I think we should take it because you you identified the most amazing part of this right away, which is that she went after Trump for a civil asset inflation crime essentially or civil asset inflation fraud, and she was completely wrong. If somebody who anyone who says mar A Lago was worth twenty million dollars eighteen million is I mean it might, it might be a billion dollar profits.

By the way, I'll just say i'm quoting the show, they call this the headshot because mortgage fraud is easy to prove, very hard to defend, and the penalties are actually quite severe. The average mortgage fraud offender who has convicted Clay go goes to prison. It is a car siral sentence, usually for a couple of years. Now you can get up to thirty years. That would obviously if you did this on a systematic, I think grander scale. But and there's state law, there's federal law, a lot of things coming to play here. But Clay, here's another thing that I think we should take it because you you identified the most amazing part of this right away, which is that she went after Trump for a civil asset inflation crime essentially or civil asset inflation fraud, and she was completely wrong. If somebody who anyone who says mar A Lago was worth twenty million dollars eighteen million is I mean it might, it might be a billion dollar profits.

I mean, I'm not even kidding.

I mean, I'm not even kidding.

I don't think Trump would entertain and offer less than a billion dollars at this point, because when you add the historic value plus the surge in real estate prices in Palm Beach, you know there are houses selling rushes. Former house sold for over one hundred million dollars in one hundred and sixty Clay, I think it is one hundred and fifty five. It is much smaller the scope of his property than mar A Lago. So she was completely wrong on the facts. She ran for Attorney General promising to prosecute a private citizen, Donald Trump, which is disgraceful and as we see in the with the case of Clay Davis to talk about from the show, now, she looks like she's got a situation on her hands. Clay when they went after so this is this story's amazing. I saw your tweet at the last night. I mean I saw this and I just my jaw dropped because I cannot imagine. Let me just say this book, I can't imagine prosecuting a case against Trump if you knew that you had this in your background. I mean, it is crazy. This this fits into what we always say, what you always say. I've been saying it too for years.

I don't think Trump would entertain and offer less than a billion dollars at this point, because when you add the historic value plus the surge in real estate prices in Palm Beach, you know there are houses selling rushes. Former house sold for over one hundred million dollars in one hundred and sixty Clay, I think it is one hundred and fifty five. It is much smaller the scope of his property than mar A Lago. So she was completely wrong on the facts. She ran for Attorney General promising to prosecute a private citizen, Donald Trump, which is disgraceful and as we see in the with the case of Clay Davis to talk about from the show, now, she looks like she's got a situation on her hands. Clay when they went after so this is this story's amazing. I saw your tweet at the last night. I mean I saw this and I just my jaw dropped because I cannot imagine. Let me just say this book, I can't imagine prosecuting a case against Trump if you knew that you had this in your background. I mean, it is crazy. This this fits into what we always say, what you always say. I've been saying it too for years.

They accuse you of.

They accuse you of.

The things that they themselves do, which I will tell you I am just about through with a fabulous biography is a recommendation from my dad maw the untold story.

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And you know what.

And you know what.

One of the fab things that the communists do is when they're trying to rise to power acute whatever mistakes they make, it's someone else. They accuse somebody else of doing the thing, whatever treachery they're involved in, they accuse somebody else of doing that tread. I mean, it's it's the classic evil doer move is, oh, I didn't poison my rival, you poisoned my This is what they do all the time. And so they accused people of doing what they themselves do. But Clay, here's the I think the bigger issue for this is, like I said, easy to prove this is not going to be a he said, why I started with the first one. She lives in New York and she say in her primary residence is in Virginia. That's impossible. Her only defense for this, if this goes, is going to be it was a claric. Now, by the way, you and I both had done real estate investing, and you know we've bought properties, and everybody knows if it is an investment property, you have to disclose that to the bank. Right, Clay can't pretend that he lives in a house in Memphis when he actually lives in Nashville. Me I can't say I live in Tampa when I actually live in Miami. Right, this is very straightforward. Everybody knows this. She is the state attorney general. Of course she would know. But now, Clay, here's where we really get into it. I want to know how many people in New York State under her tenure have served prison sentences for similar time, because I promise you there have been people who have gone away for mortgage fraud. I was working a terrorism case many years ago where the investigators realized we couldn't get the guy on terrorism, but somebody involved was involved in a mortgage fraud, and there was this whole dispute as to whether we should use counter terrorism resources.

One of the fab things that the communists do is when they're trying to rise to power acute whatever mistakes they make, it's someone else. They accuse somebody else of doing the thing, whatever treachery they're involved in, they accuse somebody else of doing that tread. I mean, it's it's the classic evil doer move is, oh, I didn't poison my rival, you poisoned my This is what they do all the time. And so they accused people of doing what they themselves do. But Clay, here's the I think the bigger issue for this is, like I said, easy to prove this is not going to be a he said, why I started with the first one. She lives in New York and she say in her primary residence is in Virginia. That's impossible. Her only defense for this, if this goes, is going to be it was a claric. Now, by the way, you and I both had done real estate investing, and you know we've bought properties, and everybody knows if it is an investment property, you have to disclose that to the bank. Right, Clay can't pretend that he lives in a house in Memphis when he actually lives in Nashville. Me I can't say I live in Tampa when I actually live in Miami. Right, this is very straightforward. Everybody knows this. She is the state attorney general. Of course she would know. But now, Clay, here's where we really get into it. I want to know how many people in New York State under her tenure have served prison sentences for similar time, because I promise you there have been people who have gone away for mortgage fraud. I was working a terrorism case many years ago where the investigators realized we couldn't get the guy on terrorism, but somebody involved was involved in a mortgage fraud, and there was this whole dispute as to whether we should use counter terrorism resources.

Very high end.

Very high end.

Nail the guy on the mortgage fraud even though we couldn't get him on the terrorism charge. You know, it gets into this capone thing. Anyway, won't get too deep into that, but play if she sent anyone away or anyone was sent away under her tenure or before her tenure for mortgage fraud in the state of New York, and she is guilty of this crime, she has to go to sell. I agree, And there are several other things. We're going to play this audio for you in a moment, because I think this is a huge story. Remember she said repeatedly, no one is above the law. She also refused to allow Trump to argue. And by the way, this is one billion percent true.

Nail the guy on the mortgage fraud even though we couldn't get him on the terrorism charge. You know, it gets into this capone thing. Anyway, won't get too deep into that, but play if she sent anyone away or anyone was sent away under her tenure or before her tenure for mortgage fraud in the state of New York, and she is guilty of this crime, she has to go to sell. I agree, And there are several other things. We're going to play this audio for you in a moment, because I think this is a huge story. Remember she said repeatedly, no one is above the law. She also refused to allow Trump to argue. And by the way, this is one billion percent true.

Trump had a huge team.

Trump had a huge team.

Of people working on his investment papers with the major investment bank. Trump is not sitting there with a pencil going through like writing all the information in. He has an entire organization of people. This is important, Buck, because she's gonna say, I bet I didn't do this. Somebody else filled this out for me. They just checked the wrong box. That's specifically the defense she said was unacceptable for Trump. In an they have her on the Act. It's just a question of the intent. They're going to have to argue intent on this, and with this kind of stuff that can be very especially when you're the state attorney general. You don't know what a mortgage paperwork looks like. Okay, here's the other part of this. And she doesn't run a major business organization. I wouldn't imagine she's applying for that many mortgages. She's like, in this respect, a normal person. Here's the other thing, buck, in order to get another property in Brooklyn. She said that she and her dad were married, because married couples often get lower rates of mortgages than singles do same last name. I presume this is also going to get hard to explain this is a different property in Brooklyn.

Of people working on his investment papers with the major investment bank. Trump is not sitting there with a pencil going through like writing all the information in. He has an entire organization of people. This is important, Buck, because she's gonna say, I bet I didn't do this. Somebody else filled this out for me. They just checked the wrong box. That's specifically the defense she said was unacceptable for Trump. In an they have her on the Act. It's just a question of the intent. They're going to have to argue intent on this, and with this kind of stuff that can be very especially when you're the state attorney general. You don't know what a mortgage paperwork looks like. Okay, here's the other part of this. And she doesn't run a major business organization. I wouldn't imagine she's applying for that many mortgages. She's like, in this respect, a normal person. Here's the other thing, buck, in order to get another property in Brooklyn. She said that she and her dad were married, because married couples often get lower rates of mortgages than singles do same last name. I presume this is also going to get hard to explain this is a different property in Brooklyn.

Can I just point this out, Clay.

Can I just point this out, Clay.

They're going to try so hard to say that this is vindictive, that this is political payback, that this is all of these things with these crimes. It's like possession crime. If they find for the gun thing when he has on drugs exactly, or this is not a oh but are you within the scope of your office and the no, no, no, no, there's no argument here. You either did the thing that is a violation of a law, or you didn't and they would not be talking about this.

They're going to try so hard to say that this is vindictive, that this is political payback, that this is all of these things with these crimes. It's like possession crime. If they find for the gun thing when he has on drugs exactly, or this is not a oh but are you within the scope of your office and the no, no, no, no, there's no argument here. You either did the thing that is a violation of a law, or you didn't and they would not be talking about this.

Clay.

Clay.

If this is paperwork, they either have her or they don't. Dead rights, she's in a world of trouble. Yeah, well, we'll talk more about this coming up here in a second. You know, there's a really good reason that eight hundred and sixty thousand gun owners in our nation are members of the USCCA. Members get self defense liability insurance the moment they join. USCCA wants to prepare and protect responsible Americans like you and me through training, education, and self defense liability insurance. Members get all of this and much more. Defending yourself on your own can be ruinously expensive, even when you are one hundred percent in the right and lawful. That's what's so important. You understand you're in the right and lawful. You can still look at look at Letitia James for talking about this, Look at these Soros Das out there. You need to have protection. I know a lot of you carry, and you need to have USCCA. I've wanted it from be before they were a sponsor. My friends, Okay, I've known about this, and I said to myself, this is something that all of you need to hear about too, because there's a lot of risk involved the moment you have to defend yourself financially, legally, USCCA will be there for you. USCCA members who have acted and lawful self defense can count on this protection. Every member also gets access to a twenty four to seven critical response team and attorney network. In the event of a self defense incident. In today's world, you can do everything right and still end up in jail. We tell you about these stories here on the show it happens. USCCA will be there for you. They serve new gun owners, longtime firearm enthusiasts, and everyone in between. My concealed carry instructor down here in Florida said you didn't want to be doing a sponsor read, but he said, I think everybody should have concealed carry insurance. And he told us that I've never forgotten it. Download the free Concealed Carry and Family Defense Guide at this website USCCA dot com slash buck. That's USCCA dot com slash buck. You could also find this information at Clayandbuck dot com under the sponsor tag.

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All right, welcome back into clay An Buck. We're talking about this pretty incredible story of the attorney general of the state of New York who went after Trump in a way that was I truly you know, Trump won the election. I could see here now, Clay, and I would sity you. Now we could reflect and say, you know, I can see how she made the case or I can understand, and in fact, my one hundred percent certainty has only stayed at one hundred percent certainty that the whole thing was a political hit, and it was a disgrace, a disgrace to my home.

All right, welcome back into clay An Buck. We're talking about this pretty incredible story of the attorney general of the state of New York who went after Trump in a way that was I truly you know, Trump won the election. I could see here now, Clay, and I would sity you. Now we could reflect and say, you know, I can see how she made the case or I can understand, and in fact, my one hundred percent certainty has only stayed at one hundred percent certainty that the whole thing was a political hit, and it was a disgrace, a disgrace to my home.

State, which I will always love. I love New York.

State, which I will always love. I love New York.

I know I sound like I'm selling the T shirts by Central Park, but I love New York I always will. It's a fantastic place. But bad leadership, bad politics running the show, and Clay, what she did to Trump was a disgrace. It was a disgrace to the rule of law, and that she has no real interest in falling law herself is only too perfect given what we already know about this individual. Here's Fox News senior reporter Eric Sean. He lays out in some good detail. I want to hear the actual specific allegations. It's cut twenty five Play it.

I know I sound like I'm selling the T shirts by Central Park, but I love New York I always will. It's a fantastic place. But bad leadership, bad politics running the show, and Clay, what she did to Trump was a disgrace. It was a disgrace to the rule of law, and that she has no real interest in falling law herself is only too perfect given what we already know about this individual. Here's Fox News senior reporter Eric Sean. He lays out in some good detail. I want to hear the actual specific allegations. It's cut twenty five Play it.

James, whose public salary is two hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year, has obtained home loans for several properties with claims that are apparently false. In twenty twenty three paper show, she claimed to house in Norfolk, Virginia as her primary residence, which qualifies for a lower mortgage rate. But you know she is serving in public office in all but in New York, and that's five hundred miles away from Norfolk. She bought another building with her father as a co sign, calling herself his wife, and there referral also shows that she bought this brownstone in Brooklyn, New York, but misrepresented the number of units that are in it. Love that lowers the mortgage rate there too.

James, whose public salary is two hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year, has obtained home loans for several properties with claims that are apparently false. In twenty twenty three paper show, she claimed to house in Norfolk, Virginia as her primary residence, which qualifies for a lower mortgage rate. But you know she is serving in public office in all but in New York, and that's five hundred miles away from Norfolk. She bought another building with her father as a co sign, calling herself his wife, and there referral also shows that she bought this brownstone in Brooklyn, New York, but misrepresented the number of units that are in it. Love that lowers the mortgage rate there too.

Clay, if the facts are correct here, she is a serial felony financial crime offender, as the top law enforcement officer of New York State completely, and we should mention that is a Fox News report. During that Fox News report, they have still photos of the application showing the boxes that she checked, which are laws which I presume has been in the documents that have been turned over to a G. Pambondi at the Department of Justice. Now, this is also kind of significant.

Clay, if the facts are correct here, she is a serial felony financial crime offender, as the top law enforcement officer of New York State completely, and we should mention that is a Fox News report. During that Fox News report, they have still photos of the application showing the boxes that she checked, which are laws which I presume has been in the documents that have been turned over to a G. Pambondi at the Department of Justice. Now, this is also kind of significant.

Buck.

Buck.

You mentioned New York, and we know that we have a kangaroo court oftentimes unfortunately in the state of New York and in Brooklyn, in the New York City area. That be even more the case when it comes to democrats not being held accountable. Virginia, they could bring these charges in the state of Virginia for the Norfolk residence. She could face a multi state charge. Right, she could be charged for the crime in New York where it occurred. This is fed Virginia where it occurred. Yes, more mortgage. So that's the thing, mortgage fraud. Like a lot of crimes. You know, people don't even know this. Drug possession is a federal and state crime in most in most states. Now some states actually don't have that but for certain drugs. But so they can go either way. But Clay, I mean federal, She's she's in a whole lot of trouble, right, yeah, And I think again, you get a judge in Virginia and a court in Virginia that might be far more inclined to convict than in New York, so you could bring charges in both jurisdictions. We gotta we gotta find guys. Find me for either New York or Virginia. Just any press release about somebody going away from mortgage fraud, I want to see what they got. Thank you for every effort there is to lead a normal life in Israel. There's a constant reminder missile attacks can occur at any moment.

You mentioned New York, and we know that we have a kangaroo court oftentimes unfortunately in the state of New York and in Brooklyn, in the New York City area. That be even more the case when it comes to democrats not being held accountable. Virginia, they could bring these charges in the state of Virginia for the Norfolk residence. She could face a multi state charge. Right, she could be charged for the crime in New York where it occurred. This is fed Virginia where it occurred. Yes, more mortgage. So that's the thing, mortgage fraud. Like a lot of crimes. You know, people don't even know this. Drug possession is a federal and state crime in most in most states. Now some states actually don't have that but for certain drugs. But so they can go either way. But Clay, I mean federal, She's she's in a whole lot of trouble, right, yeah, And I think again, you get a judge in Virginia and a court in Virginia that might be far more inclined to convict than in New York, so you could bring charges in both jurisdictions. We gotta we gotta find guys. Find me for either New York or Virginia. Just any press release about somebody going away from mortgage fraud, I want to see what they got. Thank you for every effort there is to lead a normal life in Israel. There's a constant reminder missile attacks can occur at any moment.

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You can call to make your gift at eight eight eight four eight eight IFCJ that's eight eight eight four eight eight four three two five. You can also go online to support IFCJ dot org. That SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton shows. So you know, we have reached out to the Governor of New York, Kathy Hokeel. I would if I were the governor of New York find it somewhat alarming that my attorney general, in charge of chief law enforcement in the country, I mean in a state, was potentially engaging in fraud. I've not seen a statement from Kathy Hockle yet. And again, this is not very complicated. If the Fox documents that they showed on the broadcast, we played the audio for you. If those are accurate, this is an open and shut case. Like you click a box on a mortgage application, Buck, your analogy about Hunter Biden and the gun charge is easy too. I mean, when you say on a mortgage application, under penalty of law, I submit the following. She is an attorney, It's not like she's an unsophisticated person. And the brazen this year Buck to do this while you were trying to basically bankrupt President Trump. Also, it reminds me of Elliot Spitzer, one of the biggest scumbags in the LEA legal and political world of all time where that guy was prosecuting people for paying hookers while he was paying hookers and was like, oh, but you know when I do it. No, no, buddy, no, no. This is a huge This is a huge problem. If we have a regime where the people enforcing the laws do not live under the laws. We do not have a regime of laws. Okay, that is absolutely ironclad, and Clay, let's just play. Let's play a game. You're gonna probably throw some in the mix that I'm gonna forget, but let's play a game. Because we say this like they accuse us of doing what they actually do. Early in the Trump administrator, this is this is the first one I can think of a few Early in the Trump administration, we were hearing that Jared Kushner and Ivanka were benefiting from their dad, you know, financially corruption stuff. Jared's already a billionaire a few times over. Ivanka has been famous since I've known her since we were twelve years old. Like, this is just not but just that's what they said. And then we find out that Hunter is straight up getting tens of millions of dollars while he's a crackhead paid to him that he's hiding in LLCs and not paying taxes on because of daddy. Okay, that's one. We hear that Donald Trump needs to have a raid at mar a Lago of classified documents because it's so important in clay classified documents, national security, rah rah rah. And then we find that hunt, I mean, Joe Biden is plastering his garage with top secret documents, leaving him next to the corvette to show fans and buddies on audio talking to his biographer about the fact that he has classified documents, and then the biographer tried to delete all of the evidence of that recording of Biden admitting that he knew that he had those documents in his possession and was sharing them with a guy who was writing a book about him, right, So that kind of put a damper on the whole Trump classified documents thing.

You can call to make your gift at eight eight eight four eight eight IFCJ that's eight eight eight four eight eight four three two five. You can also go online to support IFCJ dot org. That SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton shows. So you know, we have reached out to the Governor of New York, Kathy Hokeel. I would if I were the governor of New York find it somewhat alarming that my attorney general, in charge of chief law enforcement in the country, I mean in a state, was potentially engaging in fraud. I've not seen a statement from Kathy Hockle yet. And again, this is not very complicated. If the Fox documents that they showed on the broadcast, we played the audio for you. If those are accurate, this is an open and shut case. Like you click a box on a mortgage application, Buck, your analogy about Hunter Biden and the gun charge is easy too. I mean, when you say on a mortgage application, under penalty of law, I submit the following. She is an attorney, It's not like she's an unsophisticated person. And the brazen this year Buck to do this while you were trying to basically bankrupt President Trump. Also, it reminds me of Elliot Spitzer, one of the biggest scumbags in the LEA legal and political world of all time where that guy was prosecuting people for paying hookers while he was paying hookers and was like, oh, but you know when I do it. No, no, buddy, no, no. This is a huge This is a huge problem. If we have a regime where the people enforcing the laws do not live under the laws. We do not have a regime of laws. Okay, that is absolutely ironclad, and Clay, let's just play. Let's play a game. You're gonna probably throw some in the mix that I'm gonna forget, but let's play a game. Because we say this like they accuse us of doing what they actually do. Early in the Trump administrator, this is this is the first one I can think of a few Early in the Trump administration, we were hearing that Jared Kushner and Ivanka were benefiting from their dad, you know, financially corruption stuff. Jared's already a billionaire a few times over. Ivanka has been famous since I've known her since we were twelve years old. Like, this is just not but just that's what they said. And then we find out that Hunter is straight up getting tens of millions of dollars while he's a crackhead paid to him that he's hiding in LLCs and not paying taxes on because of daddy. Okay, that's one. We hear that Donald Trump needs to have a raid at mar a Lago of classified documents because it's so important in clay classified documents, national security, rah rah rah. And then we find that hunt, I mean, Joe Biden is plastering his garage with top secret documents, leaving him next to the corvette to show fans and buddies on audio talking to his biographer about the fact that he has classified documents, and then the biographer tried to delete all of the evidence of that recording of Biden admitting that he knew that he had those documents in his possession and was sharing them with a guy who was writing a book about him, right, So that kind of put a damper on the whole Trump classified documents thing.

And now we have we have Latisia James.

And now we have we have Latisia James.

Let me also add the corruption of Fannie Willis and her paramore bringing charges against Trump and you can him you seven one hundred thousand dollars her lover boy to be taxpayer dollars, I mean, but can they get a prosecutor to go after Trump that isn't actually a criminal.

Let me also add the corruption of Fannie Willis and her paramore bringing charges against Trump and you can him you seven one hundred thousand dollars her lover boy to be taxpayer dollars, I mean, but can they get a prosecutor to go after Trump that isn't actually a criminal.

The answer seems to be no.

The answer seems to be no.

The answer seems to be that the people that want to use the law to Trump to take Trump down themselves have big problems with law.

The answer seems to be that the people that want to use the law to Trump to take Trump down themselves have big problems with law.

And can I just be clear? Is there any argument about this?

And can I just be clear? Is there any argument about this?

Like?

Like?

Does does anyone want to Maybe I should go on CNN and get on the Scott Jennings panel for a night and just be like, who wants to fight on this issue? Because you guys are wrong. I mean, Scott would be with me, but the other side, you guys are wrong. I mean, this is such an opening cutch, open and shut case because the document is there. And I bet most of you out there listening at some point in time have had to apply for a mortgage, and if you are fortunate enough to own more than one home, I guarantee that this is something that you understand very well. Or if you've ever purchased to help to purchase a second home for a child or a grandchild. The rates on secondary homes are often substantially higher because the primary residence thing is such a huge part of many people's mortgage application. This is where I live.

Does does anyone want to Maybe I should go on CNN and get on the Scott Jennings panel for a night and just be like, who wants to fight on this issue? Because you guys are wrong. I mean, Scott would be with me, but the other side, you guys are wrong. I mean, this is such an opening cutch, open and shut case because the document is there. And I bet most of you out there listening at some point in time have had to apply for a mortgage, and if you are fortunate enough to own more than one home, I guarantee that this is something that you understand very well. Or if you've ever purchased to help to purchase a second home for a child or a grandchild. The rates on secondary homes are often substantially higher because the primary residence thing is such a huge part of many people's mortgage application. This is where I live.

She didn't even live in a border.

She didn't even live in a border.

State Buck she lived Clay in the state of New York and said she was claiming to be living in Virginia.

State Buck she lived Clay in the state of New York and said she was claiming to be living in Virginia.

She knew what she was doing.

She knew what she was doing.

And even beyond that, as somebody who is as a think about this, everyone your and we.

And even beyond that, as somebody who is as a think about this, everyone your and we.

Have prosecutors, can we actually can we open lines?

Have prosecutors, can we actually can we open lines?

I want some prosecutor takes on this, like how outraged you are, or any anyone who's worked on the you know, the criminal justice side of things, Judges, prosecutors, anybody, if you want to call it and tell us how you feel about this. Because Clay, that's why I brought up the Spitzer component of this. This is somebody who is sitting there looking across the table at people and saying, because of what you did. And in the case of mortgage fraud, I'm just going to say this, I actually think the mortgage fraud laws are too severe and a little bit a little bit nutso because you know the bank, I mean, you're paying for the mortgage. Okay, the rate's a little different, you know, it gets a little more into like an assessment gray area on some of this stuff. I'm just gonna you know, it can be very severe punishment for a pretty nonsense, like the bank's not going to go under because you got a you know, two percent point two percentage point or point five percentage point loan, you know difference.

I want some prosecutor takes on this, like how outraged you are, or any anyone who's worked on the you know, the criminal justice side of things, Judges, prosecutors, anybody, if you want to call it and tell us how you feel about this. Because Clay, that's why I brought up the Spitzer component of this. This is somebody who is sitting there looking across the table at people and saying, because of what you did. And in the case of mortgage fraud, I'm just going to say this, I actually think the mortgage fraud laws are too severe and a little bit a little bit nutso because you know the bank, I mean, you're paying for the mortgage. Okay, the rate's a little different, you know, it gets a little more into like an assessment gray area on some of this stuff. I'm just gonna you know, it can be very severe punishment for a pretty nonsense, like the bank's not going to go under because you got a you know, two percent point two percentage point or point five percentage point loan, you know difference.

But put that aside. The law is the law. Play.

But put that aside. The law is the law. Play.

She sits across the table from defendants every day who commit financial crimes, who commit mortgage fraud, and says, you are now a felon, you know, because it's all deals, right, we used to ruin their lives. She has the power to ruin people's lives over regularly. Look procedural related issues, right, we're talking about like you pulled a gun out and shot someone or not. In fact, in fact, I think she probably sat down across from a lot of those people and was like, we want to give you a second chance, you know, we want.

She sits across the table from defendants every day who commit financial crimes, who commit mortgage fraud, and says, you are now a felon, you know, because it's all deals, right, we used to ruin their lives. She has the power to ruin people's lives over regularly. Look procedural related issues, right, we're talking about like you pulled a gun out and shot someone or not. In fact, in fact, I think she probably sat down across from a lot of those people and was like, we want to give you a second chance, you know, we want.

To help you out.

To help you out.

You know, so you pistol with that guy running the seven to eleven and pointed a gun at his head, you probably had a tough childhood. I guarantee you Chis James. When she got an opportunity, as we saw with Donald Trump, to make an example out of somebody who is of the you know, either the elites or somebody who's a Republican and not politically connected or a financial crime of any kind. She made an example of them. She sat there and looked at people and said, you were going to go into a cell for a nonviolent crime. You're going to only be able to see your family during visiting days, and your reputation is ruined. And she was doing that while she was doing the same thing over and over again. Buck they put the CFO in crime because he didn't claim a car allowance on thank you return.

You know, so you pistol with that guy running the seven to eleven and pointed a gun at his head, you probably had a tough childhood. I guarantee you Chis James. When she got an opportunity, as we saw with Donald Trump, to make an example out of somebody who is of the you know, either the elites or somebody who's a Republican and not politically connected or a financial crime of any kind. She made an example of them. She sat there and looked at people and said, you were going to go into a cell for a nonviolent crime. You're going to only be able to see your family during visiting days, and your reputation is ruined. And she was doing that while she was doing the same thing over and over again. Buck they put the CFO in crime because he didn't claim a car allowance on thank you return.

Perfect example.

Perfect example.

Seven or some odd year old accountant had to go to prison because he didn't take a correct deduction because they gave him a car allowance that he didn't own on his tax return. I mean, I know this is a different kind of thing. But they sent our man Steve Bannon. They sent Navarro to prison for not violating the executive privilege because we had a bunch of Democrat lunatics who wanted them to turn on the Trump administration.

Seven or some odd year old accountant had to go to prison because he didn't take a correct deduction because they gave him a car allowance that he didn't own on his tax return. I mean, I know this is a different kind of thing. But they sent our man Steve Bannon. They sent Navarro to prison for not violating the executive privilege because we had a bunch of Democrat lunatics who wanted them to turn on the Trump administration.

By the way, to all do.

By the way, to all do.

Credit to Bannon and Navarro for standing tall on that. The accountant went to prison. All right, well that's an even better example. Account went to prison. Hey, he went to the seniors wing in Rikers on Rykers Island.

Credit to Bannon and Navarro for standing tall on that. The accountant went to prison. All right, well that's an even better example. Account went to prison. Hey, he went to the seniors wing in Rikers on Rykers Island.

Again.

Again.

I looked for the NYPD a horrible place, a horrifying, traumatizing for.

I looked for the NYPD a horrible place, a horrifying, traumatizing for.

Everybody who goes there.

Everybody who goes there.

I'm not just talking about people that aren't used to be like even people that spend some time in facilities. You'd much rather go to prison in like, you know, Utah than you would in Riker's ion. Let me tell you, Okay, So you know, Clay, this is just indicative of how we were lectured for years by these democrats. Not even just lectured, they were shrieking. They were enraged about how Trump was such a threat to the rule of law. And then they've just completely turned this whole thing on its head, weaponized the rule of law. And the people shouting the loudest were some of the dirtiest. And we're supposed to what, forget about this, We're supposed to let this slide. I'm sorry. I think the standard for prosecutors who break the law should be, you know, even higher. I'll give an example this, Clay. You know, police officers when someone is in custody. You know, if you're a police officer and you you know, you just aside you've had enough in some guy's handcuffed and you break his jaw you are in a world of trouble for that right, because there's an elevated responsibility once something and I'm talking I'm not talking about the arrest. I'm talking about once someone is in custody, once he has been taken into custody, abuse is treated extremely seriously because law enforcement has an elevated responsibility due to their elevated power. Same thing should be true for prosecutors with criminal law. You're going to use the law as a weapon against people, and then you're going to break the law yourself. You should get maximum top of the guidelines every time. We cannot have prosecutors who think they are above the law. She definitely directly prosecuted Weiselberg for I mean, this is the New York got a a attorney general, She's got a good guys. Nothing less than prison if she if she, if she's guilty of this, this is all alleged. Maybe all this is where you're happening to the legal dance. Maybe all the facts are wrong, or maybe she should serve time in a prison cell if these allegations are true. No deals, no, you know, probation uh and should be federal and this should be this should be the way this goes down, that is what justice looks like here. And if anything, I tend to be a little squishy on nonviolent crimes, not when you're a prosecutor. Not when you're sending people away and telling them their families don't get to see them for a few Thanksgivings because they got a tip on a stock. And remember again, she claims she was married to her dad. I mean that is serious fraud, right. They probably have the same last name. She's expecting that they're not going to pay attention. That's my bet. And Virginia as the primary residence. When you are required by law, if you are the New York State Attorney General, to have your primary residence in the state of New York. This is really easy stuff. And to the point buck, theoretically, you could charge each of these fraud acts one in New York because that is where the property is that she claims she was married to her dad, one in Virginia, and you could prosecute both and theoretically get different jury. If you're worried about how a New York City jury might respond compared to a Virginia jury, I would bet. Also, I'll reiterate this, I bet this is a state crime too, so it's federal, yes, but I bet there is a mortgage fraud statute in the state of New York. I know that there is because of my experience in New York. Absolutely, so when I was the NYPD, it could have been state or federal, which is why it's so useful clay, when you're doing like a terrorism investigation, because if the Feds don't want it, we could still take it on the state side at the PDE. So this is well, my point on that is, we know Glenn Youngkin is the governor, and we know Jason Miarrez is the Attorney general in Virginia. So not only may she have federal issues to consider with Pam Bondy as the attorney general, because there are certainly federal charges here, she might have to worry about state charges being brought by the Republican governor and attorney general because she might be somewhat protected in New York in a way that she might not be in Virginia, which is why that's significant too. I think that's I think that's true, and I would just add to this Clay. They probably will start to run a oh, it's no it's a no harm, no foul crime. And again I would agree with that to some extent if the argument was made in a vacuum applicable to or rather if the argument was made in a way that was applicable to all and all going forward. She used this to go after Trump. She has used this to incarcerate other people. I'm sure of it, just because this is a standard crime that has brought, you know, standard charge that has brought against people in states across the country. And if you if you're gonna if you're gonna lock there's a very important legal principle here. If you're gonna lock people away for something as a prosecutor, and you do the same thing, you get the same time, absolutely critical. And also think about the just sheer, bravado and arrogance to do this while you are prosecuting cases on fraud. It's just it's I agree with you. I think it's worse. We should hold her to a higher stand absolutely, and the arrogance to do it while you're trying to put people away in prison. You're gonna put Trump's accountant in Rikers Island because they didn't announce that he had a car.

I'm not just talking about people that aren't used to be like even people that spend some time in facilities. You'd much rather go to prison in like, you know, Utah than you would in Riker's ion. Let me tell you, Okay, So you know, Clay, this is just indicative of how we were lectured for years by these democrats. Not even just lectured, they were shrieking. They were enraged about how Trump was such a threat to the rule of law. And then they've just completely turned this whole thing on its head, weaponized the rule of law. And the people shouting the loudest were some of the dirtiest. And we're supposed to what, forget about this, We're supposed to let this slide. I'm sorry. I think the standard for prosecutors who break the law should be, you know, even higher. I'll give an example this, Clay. You know, police officers when someone is in custody. You know, if you're a police officer and you you know, you just aside you've had enough in some guy's handcuffed and you break his jaw you are in a world of trouble for that right, because there's an elevated responsibility once something and I'm talking I'm not talking about the arrest. I'm talking about once someone is in custody, once he has been taken into custody, abuse is treated extremely seriously because law enforcement has an elevated responsibility due to their elevated power. Same thing should be true for prosecutors with criminal law. You're going to use the law as a weapon against people, and then you're going to break the law yourself. You should get maximum top of the guidelines every time. We cannot have prosecutors who think they are above the law. She definitely directly prosecuted Weiselberg for I mean, this is the New York got a a attorney general, She's got a good guys. Nothing less than prison if she if she, if she's guilty of this, this is all alleged. Maybe all this is where you're happening to the legal dance. Maybe all the facts are wrong, or maybe she should serve time in a prison cell if these allegations are true. No deals, no, you know, probation uh and should be federal and this should be this should be the way this goes down, that is what justice looks like here. And if anything, I tend to be a little squishy on nonviolent crimes, not when you're a prosecutor. Not when you're sending people away and telling them their families don't get to see them for a few Thanksgivings because they got a tip on a stock. And remember again, she claims she was married to her dad. I mean that is serious fraud, right. They probably have the same last name. She's expecting that they're not going to pay attention. That's my bet. And Virginia as the primary residence. When you are required by law, if you are the New York State Attorney General, to have your primary residence in the state of New York. This is really easy stuff. And to the point buck, theoretically, you could charge each of these fraud acts one in New York because that is where the property is that she claims she was married to her dad, one in Virginia, and you could prosecute both and theoretically get different jury. If you're worried about how a New York City jury might respond compared to a Virginia jury, I would bet. Also, I'll reiterate this, I bet this is a state crime too, so it's federal, yes, but I bet there is a mortgage fraud statute in the state of New York. I know that there is because of my experience in New York. Absolutely, so when I was the NYPD, it could have been state or federal, which is why it's so useful clay, when you're doing like a terrorism investigation, because if the Feds don't want it, we could still take it on the state side at the PDE. So this is well, my point on that is, we know Glenn Youngkin is the governor, and we know Jason Miarrez is the Attorney general in Virginia. So not only may she have federal issues to consider with Pam Bondy as the attorney general, because there are certainly federal charges here, she might have to worry about state charges being brought by the Republican governor and attorney general because she might be somewhat protected in New York in a way that she might not be in Virginia, which is why that's significant too. I think that's I think that's true, and I would just add to this Clay. They probably will start to run a oh, it's no it's a no harm, no foul crime. And again I would agree with that to some extent if the argument was made in a vacuum applicable to or rather if the argument was made in a way that was applicable to all and all going forward. She used this to go after Trump. She has used this to incarcerate other people. I'm sure of it, just because this is a standard crime that has brought, you know, standard charge that has brought against people in states across the country. And if you if you're gonna if you're gonna lock there's a very important legal principle here. If you're gonna lock people away for something as a prosecutor, and you do the same thing, you get the same time, absolutely critical. And also think about the just sheer, bravado and arrogance to do this while you are prosecuting cases on fraud. It's just it's I agree with you. I think it's worse. We should hold her to a higher stand absolutely, and the arrogance to do it while you're trying to put people away in prison. You're gonna put Trump's accountant in Rikers Island because they didn't announce that he had a car.

I would argue.

I would argue.

I would argue that prosecutors should have the highest ethical standards of anyone in our entire government and entire government apparatus. I mean, judges would be kind of next on the list. But the decision to prosecute is the decision to destroy. I've sat in meetings where that decision has been made, Clay Right, You've dealt with it from the trying to save somebody from the destruction side. On the defense side, I've been there when they've said, are we going to pass this along? You know, what does the DA think on this?

I would argue that prosecutors should have the highest ethical standards of anyone in our entire government and entire government apparatus. I mean, judges would be kind of next on the list. But the decision to prosecute is the decision to destroy. I've sat in meetings where that decision has been made, Clay Right, You've dealt with it from the trying to save somebody from the destruction side. On the defense side, I've been there when they've said, are we going to pass this along? You know, what does the DA think on this?

Right?

Right?

I've been in some of those meetings. Once the charge comes, so much damage has already done. Even if the person, even if the charges eventually would driver pay attention to the result. The charge gets a ton of attention, even the allegation in the cases of sexual assault, which is why I've been so fired up about the me two cases in general. But she should first of all, this is why we've reached out to Kathy Hokeel. She shouldn't be allowed to stay as Attorney General with these allegations. If she'spond her charges, which there should be, she should have to step down immediately. Look imagine starting a business that helps people protect themselves from home intruders or people who might wish you harm. That's what our sponsor, Saber has done for fifty years now, family owned, multi generational business. Clay and I know the founder and CEO. He's a great guy. He's a family man, and he wants to give you all the tools you need to defend yourself, your family, your home with non lethal options. Saber makes a whole line of protection devices that you need to go check out, but one of the most popular is their non lethal pepper spray projectile launcher. It's about the size of a standard pistol. There's a larger version as well if you want even more capacity. But if you had to deal with a home intruder and a whole range of threats to you, your person, and your family, this Saber pepper projectile launcher is going to help stop that threat. Six foot cloud of irritant. It just puts a whole difference tole different feeling on the encounter and it's non lethal. Now for Carrie for Laura, they both like having non lethal options in the home. Me I would like to have both. I like non lethal and then the escalation possibility, but I still want that non lethal possibility. That's where Saber comes in. Saberradio dot Com is the website s A b r E saberradio dot com. You've got a nice fifteen percent discount on that website today. That's Saber sab r E saberradio dot com. Or if you want to call on the phone, make it real easy for yourself. Eight four four A two four safe. That's eight four four eight two four safe.

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We had a pretty quick turnaround here on Clay and Buck will take some calls and get into some more of your thoughts on This is a big story and it goes to a lot of what we've talked about here on the show about the weaponization of law and democrats have they they wanted it, they messed around, and now they're finding out they decided to push all this stuff. So I think reciprocity here, meaning in enforcing the law as it is actually written in these cases is critical. Let's a VIP email from Jim. If Martha Stewart had to do time for insider trading, Latissa James should do time. Clay again, I agree with the principal and that was James Comy. Everybody, big surprise there.

We had a pretty quick turnaround here on Clay and Buck will take some calls and get into some more of your thoughts on This is a big story and it goes to a lot of what we've talked about here on the show about the weaponization of law and democrats have they they wanted it, they messed around, and now they're finding out they decided to push all this stuff. So I think reciprocity here, meaning in enforcing the law as it is actually written in these cases is critical. Let's a VIP email from Jim. If Martha Stewart had to do time for insider trading, Latissa James should do time. Clay again, I agree with the principal and that was James Comy. Everybody, big surprise there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Look, I mean the idea behind many people who are celebrities being charged, and I'm not taking a side on whether or not I agree with it, is that it provides notice to people who are not famous of the consequences of behavior, whether you're faces or infamous, or or just any call up to terrence prosecution. That's right, is the is the term they use in the industry.

Look, I mean the idea behind many people who are celebrities being charged, and I'm not taking a side on whether or not I agree with it, is that it provides notice to people who are not famous of the consequences of behavior, whether you're faces or infamous, or or just any call up to terrence prosecution. That's right, is the is the term they use in the industry.

John and Pallisades Park, New Jersey. Way in my friends, why are your first?

John and Pallisades Park, New Jersey. Way in my friends, why are your first?

Congratulations on a new baby and thank you Easter. I just hope, I hope you guys are right, But I think you're getting way too excited. I think she's just gonna do an otani. He's going to find somebody else to blame it on.

Congratulations on a new baby and thank you Easter. I just hope, I hope you guys are right, But I think you're getting way too excited. I think she's just gonna do an otani. He's going to find somebody else to blame it on.

She will talk.

She will talk.

Who's is that the baseball player? Yeah, the baseball player. Thanks for the call in. Happy Easter to everybody. A little bit in advance. But yeah, Otani gambling case. Evidently he was not involved in those cases, so I don't want to throw him under the bus. He had a financial advisor that was reportedly managing his money that was paid placing lots of bets. As a result, that guy's going to prison. Otani is perfectly fine. We'll talk more about this. I think Letitia's in trouble.

Who's is that the baseball player? Yeah, the baseball player. Thanks for the call in. Happy Easter to everybody. A little bit in advance. But yeah, Otani gambling case. Evidently he was not involved in those cases, so I don't want to throw him under the bus. He had a financial advisor that was reportedly managing his money that was paid placing lots of bets. As a result, that guy's going to prison. Otani is perfectly fine. We'll talk more about this. I think Letitia's in trouble.