Hour 1 - Good vs. Evil

Published Jun 2, 2025, 7:30 PM

In the first hour of today’s Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Buck Sexton, hosting solo while Clay Travis is on vacation, delivers a high-energy breakdown of major political and cultural developments. The hour opens with a focus on national security and immigration enforcement under President Donald Trump, highlighting a major ICE operation dubbed “Operation Patriot,” which targeted over 1,500 high-value criminal illegal aliens. Sexton praises the Trump administration’s proactive stance on border security and law enforcement, contrasting it with previous Democratic policies.

 

The show then shifts to international affairs, covering a significant Ukrainian drone strike on Russian bombers, which people have compared to the “Hezbollah-style” pager surprise attack. He emphasizes the strategic implications and the evolving nature of modern warfare.

 

A major segment is dedicated to a controversial incident in California where a biological male identifying as female won the state girl’s high school track championship. Sexton critiques the media’s coverage, particularly CNN’s framing of the issue, and features commentary from attorney Julie Hamill, who argues that such policies violate Title IX and federal civil rights law. The discussion underscores the Trump administration’s position on protecting women’s sports and enforcing legal definitions of sex and gender.

 

The hour also covers a disturbing antisemitic attack in Boulder, Colorado, where an illegal immigrant allegedly threw incendiary devices at a vigil for Israeli hostages. Sexton links the attack to broader concerns about immigration enforcement and national security, reinforcing President Trump’s warnings about the risks posed by unchecked illegal immigration.

 

Throughout the hour, Sexton criticizes mainstream media narratives, particularly those from CNN, and highlights what he sees as the ideological extremism of the left on issues ranging from gender identity to immigration. He calls for stronger enforcement of federal laws and praises the Trump administration’s efforts to restore order and uphold American values.

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Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. It kicks off right now. Thank you so much for being here. As you know, Clay on vacation. He's having a great time. Checked in with him this morning. He'll be back with us on Friday. So it's just me for the next few days. Buck, I will refrain from speaking again the third person. Thank you for being here as old and We've got a lot of news stories. Honestly, today is one of these days we are stacked. I've also got some great guests lined up. I'll tell you more about that in a bit, though they're in the second and third hours. You have. Ukraine says that it hit dozens of Russian bombers in a really sophisticated drone attack. I'll take you through some of that. People are calling this Ukraine's Hesbala Pager moment. Not sure it's well, Actually it is pretty I was gonna say it's not quite as sophisticated, but it's pretty close. It was a spectacular attack in the sense of caught the Russians very much by surprise, a lot of damage done and of military targeting. We shall discuss that we've got the champion, this young man, and this is gonna be tough, but we have to just speak about this. But heck, she's not tough. I was gonna say, we'll just speak about this the way that we should, because it's what is factual. A young man has won the California track state championship for women. And there was a clip I'm going to walk you through this, a clip on CNN or a segment on CNN where a a attorney and the president of the California Justice Center, Julie Hammill, goes through piece by piece with a CNN anchor who is effectively delusional, I mean, calling this person her and she and what about her feelings and all this stuff for the biological male who just beat all the girls in California in track. And this is a violation of federal law, this is a violation of common sense. And when you hear this exchange, I think you will find it is remarkably illuminating about how the left is not backing down on this stuff. And the left is insane. They have not moved away from this issue. So we shall dive into that. But you know, first up, I just finished watching a few moments ago they were talking about a major ICE operation underway. Major ICE operation underway, or rather it's still underway, but they've had initial results in fifteen hundred high value target criminal aliens who are in the country. Now, I remember, these aren't just people who are here illegally. These are people who are here illegally and do bad things and break the law and pray on their on Americans and their fellow human beings. So these are the top priorities that exist out there for enforcements. When it comes to immigration and deportation operations. They call that Operation Patriot. They had to think somebody from the ICE office in Boston talking about this, but this is absolutely essential. One of the things that I love about this administration is they aren't just stopping the crazy stuff that the other side, or rather refraining from doing the same crazy stuff that the Democrats were doing. Yes, that's an improvement, but they're also saying, hold on a second, that's illegal. We're not going to allow you. We're going to stop you from doing the crazy things, whether it's the transgender you know, men and women's sports stuff or now this sanctuary city complete, you know, forgetting about the rule of low stuff on immigration and the reasons for this, or rather we got a reminder of how important this is with this attack in Colorado that happens. Now, let me give you what the situation. What the situation is. A guy went to this was in Boulder, Colorado on Sunday. A guy yell's free Palestine and threw incendiary devices into this crowd. In Boulder, Colorado, there was a demonstration to remember the Israeli hostages who remain in Gaza. So think about this for a moment. There's a group of people who have gotten together to just stand in solidarity with and remind the public about the fact that there are still hostages who are being held by Hamas, which I would also remind everybody violation of Geneva Convention wor crime itself. It's a decision that they have made. These are terrorists. These are terrorists. They have hostages that are dying and that they've killed in their custody, and they have more and they refuse to give them back because they are terrorists and they are the enemies of civilization and do not forget that Hamas is an enemy of civilization anywhere in the world and should be treated as such. I do not view Hamas as distinct or different from a group like al Qaeda. I think that they share the baseline ideology that makes them as vicious as they are, and why they it is as necessary as it is to meet them on the battlefield and to destroy them. That's how I view Hamas. I don't want to sit around and talk about, Oh, maybe there's some future where Hamas is not going to be so crazy anyway. So there's this demonstration taking place in Boulder, Colorado for Israeli hostages, and this lunatic runs up to them, and you had eight people who are transport of the hospital. He threw in sandiary devices I assume something like a like a Molotov cocktail, some sort of incendiary device like that, and people were burned and they had to be taken directly to the hospital as a result. Yeah, that burns on their legs, badly burned on most of her. One of them appear to be badly burned on most of her body, wrapped in a flag by a bystander. Horrific trying to lighting people on fire. That's what this meaning. I did he lit people on fire at a Let's remember the hostages. Think about the psychological damage that these hostages and their families are still going through. Any day, some savage from Hamasque could execute them. If it's a woman in custody. We know what they've been doing to women in custody. I mean, these people are barbarians. Barbarians, and there is a gathering of those who want to remind all of us of what's going on here. You know, the pro Hamas, pro Gaza Free Palestine maniacs that are out there. They hate talk of the hostages because what they really want is this pretense that they have the moral high ground. There's a genocide in Gaza, maybe the quote unquote genocide. It is not a genocide, but maybe what they call genocide would stop if Hamas would just give back the hostages that it has in its and it could do so tomorrow, it could have done so at any point since it started this war. And Hamas did start this war, as we know with October seventh. So that brings me to this individual, who it turns out was here on a tourist visa. Fox News was the first that I saw reported this. It was authorized to stay till February twenty twenty three, stayed in the country illegally, applied for asylum, received a work permit which was valid through March of twenty twenty five. Stayed in the country illegally. That's something that we have to remind ourselves of here. So we just suffered a terrorist attack from an illegal That's what happened. That's not the way that the here you go, here you go. Here's how Reuters, here's how Routers covers this. I just told you what really happened. And illegal who yelled free Palestine and lit people on fire, engaged in a anti Semitic terrorist attack on US soil. And he was only here because he had evaded our immigration laws. You know, Trump has been talking about this all along. Yet another moment where you say, oh wow, Trump is right that we have risks. We have risks to our security that come from these individuals, that come from these individuals who enter illegally or stay illegally after legal entry, which is the case here, and that is is unacceptable and one of the reasons they're such a risk. It's not just that they break the law. We don't know who they are. They are effectively off radar. Once they stay beyond they're allowed time, or once they enter illegally, we don't know what they're up to. We don't know what they're doing. And now you have people who had to be rushed to the hospital after being lit on fire at a peaceful vigil for hostages because some illegal alien maniac was in the country. Suspect named as Mohammed Saliman. Yeah, that's the suspect's name. So eight people injured in this in illegal engage in a terrorist attack. A reminder of why it is so important and so urgent to get criminal illegals out of this country as quickly as possible, because we've allowed a lot of maniacs like this one to come into the country. And you could say, oh, what they always do is they try to get you to focus on the people that just want a better life for themselves, and well, the problem is we can't just allow people who want a better life for themselves to come into the country at will, because then this country would cease to exist. We can't handle it. It wouldn't be America anymore, it would be something else. And Democrats want to turn it into that as quickly as they can, and there's a whole bunch of reasons why we can get into the psychology behind that. But in the meantime, we are here saying, and the Trump administration is saying enough enough. Eight people lit on fire at a protest by this maniac. It's appalling, and it shows you how critical it is that Trump's work and the administration's work continues on this. And then you have the true imbeciles over places like CNN, where I used to be a terrorism analyst and I was always right, you know my room. My record was for saying, this is jihadis terrorism, and it turned out to be a gehadas terrorism one hundred percent. In fact, they had people that they brought on TV. This is a true story. They brought me on TV once at CNN to analyze terror attack because I had worked at a little place called the CIA Counter Terrorism Center. And they actually brought on some other expert to disagree with me. I don't remember, you know, some academic or something, and it came out while we were on the air. That's true, came out while we were on the air that yeah, no, actually there was like a jihad manifesto and GI the whole thing, but they don't care. The point is they want to feel good about themselves for thinking this isn't a Muslim jie hottist thing, this is some other thing. I don't want to jump to conclusions. We may never know the motive. We may never know the motive. Here's former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and Harvard professor Juliet Kayem. She's a true she was the one I was talking about last week. I't to tell you that she's a true imbecile. Shechs at Harvard imbecile. Here they are. This is them on the CNN panel after this attack, play seven.

It's hard to imagine that the FBI has more or better information at this point to kind of rush out with the conclusion within like ten minutes after we all started hearing about this, that it's a targeted active ERA may very well be, but most of the time you try to be very careful about attaching that label to an attack until you have solid evidence that indicates a motive that would qualify as terrorism, like an act intended to intimidate a population or to change the direction of government.

It's not good for the community. It's not good for the potentially targeted community. It makes law enforcement look disorganized, and it makes the FBI look so juvenile, like, why are you getting ahead of the police chief?

A Muslim guy who's an illegal alien through a molotov cocktail at a bunch of Jews at a free the hostages protest, and he yelled, free Palestine.

I think we know what's going on here, right, I think we all understand why this guy did what he did. And yet they go on CNN and they say this because part of the mandate of the left, part of the mandate of the Democrat Party these days, is to continue to continue trying to help these Democrats live in an alternate universe because they're so wrong on so many things, and it's becoming more and more apparent with every day, and the Trump administration is exposing the truth and taking action in ways that it becomes unavoidable for them to have to start to look at this. So this is like their fantasy escapism of well, we may never really know gee, kind of like how I knew and Clay knew that Biden had dementia, kind of like how we knew that the trans manifesto was going to talk about how the trans terrorist in Nashville was a maniac who hated Christians and Conservatives and it was terrorism. And they're like, we don't know, we have to way the of course we know, of course we know. But it is better in the democrat mind to be told something so stupid, such as we can't know you know, the real motive, or we don't know the free Palestine guy who was throwing the incendiary devices at the Jews yelling free Palestine, and we don't know what's going on there. They would rather be told that than you are on the side of evil and you've been wrong on everything. That's really what's going on here. They'd rather be talked to you like complete idiots than have to face the reality of you're on the wrong side. You're on the Hamas side, you're on the Jihad side, you're on the enemies of civilization. Team Libs. Wise up. They don't want to hear that. Now's a good time to talk to you about the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, talk about the allies of civilization. Those who are fighting for civilization are brothers and sisters in Israel. As we know there was this horrifying attack and Old Colorado shows just how clear the antisemitism is and how it can be lethally even in this country. And one of the eight people injured was an eighty eight year old Holocaust survivor. If you're helpless, or rather you feel helpless about what's happening around this country, you're not helpless, and this is what IFCJ can do. They're here to show our support for our brothers and sisters in Israel. That is the goal, that is the mission of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. The IFCJ builds bomb shelters, fortifies ambulances and emergency vehicles, donates flak jackets and other essential items. They are on the front lines, and they're also feeding elderly Holocaust survivors who have no one else to care for them. When you give a gift of forty five dollars to IFCJ, you're putting faith into action right where it's needed most. Stand up to antisemitism and show your support at IFCJ dot org. You can also call eight eight eight four eight eight IFCJ. That's eight eight eight four eight eight IFCJ, or go to IFCJ dot org, Like I said, it should be pretty clear to anybody who is paying attention who the good guys are and who the bad guys are in the whole Gaza Israel situation. And I know that he isn't with us on everything, but on this issue, Bill maher better than a lot of Democrats. He said it pretty well over the weekend. This has cut nine play it.

I'm not saying Trump is a guy reading historians every night, but to the average person, he seems to get the idea Western civilization good that a lot of these kids don't. I mean, there was two people shot outside of the Israeli embassy in Washington, DC last week, and the guy who did it, Elias Rodriguez, doesn't sound like he has ties to the region directly that I did it for Palestine. Now, if you have kids screaming on campus, globalize the into bring the into fada home, this is what you get.

This is what they mean it is, and this is what happens. And it just happened again over the weekend. This guy wasn't a college kid, but the same mentality the Intifada involved. If you look at this second Intifada in the early two thousands, it was the constant infiltration of suicide bombers into restaurants, pizzerias, barmits, fazz anywhere they could kill as many people as well, you know, the elderly babies. That was the intefada. Okay, yeah, the word means uprising, but what did actually entail the worst kinds of brutality and horrific violence imaginable, intentionally killing civilians and the helpless. So it's not hard to know who the good guys and the bad guys are.

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What would make this fair for her to compete for those who are competing against her, What would that kind of structure in competition look like?

Who is her?

Ab ab okay ab Hernandez is a male who identifies as a female. What would be fair is to have Hernandez competing in the male category. It is not fair to the females competing to have to compete with a male.

Okay, So in Trump's federal funding threat, is that something though, that would hurt all student athletes, including athletes who are assigned female at birth.

Stop would his stop stop stop? Really hold it right there? Notice she her all the all this it's a guy. It's not a she, it's not a her. And this anchor says assigned female at birth, as if as if these girls, these young women who are competing, you know, could have gone either way. The doctor could have looked down there and been like, you know what, I don't know. Maybe it's a dude. If your doctor can't tell the difference, it's not a very good doctor, is it. Of course, that is complete propaganda language for that to be said on CNN. Should be ashamed that this was aired. But that's just the start. Let's keep going play.

Federal funding threat hurt athletes if the money is taken away.

Right.

So the law actually says that schools that do not abide Title nine or other federal laws can not receive federal funds. So that's not Trump's fault. The problem is that the state with eighty twelve sixes.

But you understand, rually, there's a you understand there's there's two view two views here on title nine. So just to be clear, not everyone agrees with you on how you're viewing it. So in that regard, if you were to take away the funding on as it pertains to trans athletes, not everyone agrees with you. I think we just have to be clear about that. If you are taking away the funds for athletes student athletes in California, isn't that going to hurt all of them?

Taking away federal funds is going to hurt all California kids, which is why the state of California needs to comply with federal law. It's very simple.

So when you take jobs, stop right there, stop right there. Notice the way there's being framed by the anchor, California is violating the federal civil rights law Title MIND pass back in the seventies that prohibits sex base discrimination educational programs. The same law that has been used to mean that you have to spend equal funding on men and women or else, which has destroyed a lot of men's athletics programs. That's why there's no wrestling, no crew teams, a lot of these places. But put that aside for a second. That same federal civil rights law that we've heard about for decades and has been used as a tool by the left for all kinds of social engineering. That is still the law, and you are in violation of that law if you are subjecting women to men in women's specific areas of life. Right. This couldn't be any more straightforward. But notice the CN anchor takes the approach of well, because you are choosing to enforce the law, which means no federal funding, which has always been the way that they have ensured Title NINN compliance, always for decades, Okay, for fifty years. Because now it's going to affect something that is a left wing ideological position, it's but what about all the people that are going to be affected by that pull in funding who aren't involved in this? Well, guess what. That's quite a difference, isn't it. What's the change here? Well, they like one thing, they don't like the other. Fair to a democrat means things I like versus things I don't like. There's no fair to them, and there's certainly no law to them. The law is the same thing. The law to a democrat is do I like this or not? If I like it, it's legal if I don't. It's illegal, full stop. That's how Justice Sotomayor makes her decisions, That's how the entire left wing legal apparatus functions. But let's continue on with this fascinating exchange on CNN Play.

It Science on trans athletes. What is really clear is that there needs to be a lot more research on a lot more trans athletes to be able to draw better conclusions about the effect of whether gender affirming care actually reduces or eliminates the advantage conferred on an athlete who is genetically male. Would you welcome more research? Is this a situation where more research might help?

I absolutely think that more research and more careful and thoughtful discussion is necessary here. Pediatric sex change procedures are very harmful and they cause lifelong damage to children, and this is something that the United States of America needs to examine thoughtfully, and people need to be able to discuss openly without being called bigots and transphobes.

Okay, let's just jump in here. I like the way that that was handled there by Julie Hamil. You can tell that the anchor and it sounds like she's making a hostage video, Like I think that somebody must have been telling her in her ear because I remember this at CNN, because I remember I worked there, and I could hear. Sometimes if you're on set, sometimes you can hear what's being said into the ear piece, not the words, but you can hear that someone's talking to them. I think that maybe she was being fed some of this because what she says, what the anchor was saying, is so dumb and so counterintuitive that it's hard to believe that she would actually come up with this stuff on her own. It makes you think that there had to be somebody feeding her this stuff. Like, we need more study. I mean, this is a seventeen or an eighteen year old, dude. This is a junior in high school. A juniors in high school tend to be seventeen or eighteen, right, So let's just say I'm trying to find do we know the age of mister Hernandez. By the way, the New York Times rights the two girls, miss Hernandez and Brooke White of River City High School, were up on the podium together. It's not a girl, it's not this is The New York Times. How old is she? He? Sorry? Sixteen? Okay, sixteen? This is somebody who's had the benefit of male hormones and male physical transformation through puberty. Almost You know a lot of people by sixteen seventeen, they're you know, they've gone through most of the physical changes that they that you will in terms of the difference between men and women in puberty, right, a lot of people. You can get us some of the specifics here. It is also my understanding, just to give an example of this, that I think you're seventeen, you can join you can join the military. I think you're seventeen you can like join the Marine Corps. I could be wrong, but I think you're able to. So let me know if guys, if I'm off on that one, but I think you are. And there might be something you know, your parents might have feel like give permission or I don't know, maybe not. Don't please, don't get mad at me. But I think I've heard of people who are seventeen who joined the military. My point being that you know, physically, at seventeen, as a male, you are very male capable. All right, You're very male capable. You've gone through most of the puberty process, if not all of it, and so the musculature, the bone density, all of that stuff will have already been in place. Is it any surprise that this trans individual is the champion? Notice, the trans individual isn't like, you know, number ten or whatever. Somehow, there's not that many of these trans people, so you know that are trying to compete in high school athletics. Somehow the trans male or trans female whatever is the best at this, and we're supposed to think that's coincidence. You have the CNN anchor telling you, oh, this needs more study. We need more study. All of you who have kids, and especially well just kids in general. But if you've had boys and girls, you know that's the most absurd. That's the most absurd thing you've ever heard, right, needs more study. No, we know this. We've known this for all of human history. Men are men and women are women, and there are distinct differences between the two, and that in the overwhelming majority of cases, men are going to have substantially more muscle and physical capacity to similarly situated females right of similar age. And you know, time spent in an activity track, you know, weightlifting, whatever it may be. We all know. How are we having this debate? And I also think it's it's really wrong that they do this thing where they say, well, the girls competing in California against or some of them, they haven't complained about it. Well, gee, I don't know. They maybe they don't want to be rejected from every college they apply to. Maybe they don't want to be attacked docks and maybe even threatened horrifically on the internet. Because the people that push this stuff for maniacs and they do that. The people that are really believers in this think that they are kind of like the Free Palestine crowd, think that they are completely morally on the on the right side to push this agenda, even if they have to do horrible things in order to do it. I mean, I would argue that it's a horrible thing, or you know, it's a really nasty thing. It's not a terrorist attack, but it's it's a nasty thing to take away the trophies and and the UH to undermine what these girls have done. These girls are sixteen, seventeen years old. Some of them have probably been competing track and field, certainly since they were in middle of grammar school, and this could be a really special moment for them. And they have some guy who says it's a woman who's now beating all of them. It's preposterous. It is completely preposterous, and we all know it. And Gavin Newsom is a coward and I told you this too. People say, oh, he said it's not fair. That's not what he said in that interview. Gavin Newsom, he said when he said it's not fair, he meant to any party involved. It's not fair to the trans person. It's not fair. You know, it's like a generally not fair. He didn't say he was going to turn this around. Then he has it. And so now they're trying to win this argument because the enforcement mechanism for this civil rights law, which is Title nine, the enforcement mechanism is pulling federal funding, which has ensured compliance for decades. California and some other states are out of compliance. Federal funding should be pulled. And what you cannot allow is the Democrats to pretend that it is the fault of Trump and the Republicans that this funding is being pulled. No, Gavin Newsom is violating civil rights law as a fact of day to day life in the state of California. Democrats aren't backing off this, which tells you I mean this is after the election they just had and the realities of what we're seeing, it's they're crazy. I mean, there's really something wrong with them, all right. A data breach exposed nearly two hundred million records, including log in credentials for Google, Apple, Meta and more. Stolen information contains user names, passwords, and login URLs connected to services like Payfoul, Netflix and more. Criminals could use this information to commit identity theft. It's important to understand how cybercrime and identity theft are affecting our lives. 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We'll talk to Julie Hammill about her extended conversation with that CNN host where she's like in a corner her and assigned at birth, and just give us a sense of what's going on in the state of California and what really is the policy and why is it that California seems to think that they don't have to abide by federal civil rights law? You know, why do they think they get to just make it up as they go along? I mean, how could you even enforce this right? If men and women have to be treated in a way that is equal in the law, but the law can't actually determine who a man and a woman is. How can that law be enforced? Because how can you know if a woman is being discriminated against for being a woman if you don't know what a woman is? And I know that that sounds like we're running in circles, but that is what is going on here. I mean, that is truly the situation laid bare. So it's nuts. By the way, here's the mom of this, of the of ab Hernandez doing what I would you know expect in the situation, which is to try to I mean, she supports all this of course, and she's doing the emotional blackmail thing of if you don't let my son compete against women, he may hurt himself. Play five.

I'm not losing my child because of my stubbornness, and for me being close minded like I rather embrace ourd times together even if it's been this difficult than going to a cemetery and crying because I couldn't accept something.

You know, emotional blackmail, that's what that is. You have to go along with a delusion or else you are wishing harm upon my child. Well what are the outer limits to that? I wonder by the way, you know, take my son at take my son at Harvard Admissions, or else he may hurt himself. I mean, you start to go down this path and you say, what the heck is going on? We'll talk to Julie hammil about this. In this view,

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