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Travis buck Sexton show Bucket Eye. Working late into the evening last night in Nashville. Buck now back in Miami. I am still here in Nashville. I spent my morning thank you to my son's fourth grade class at career day.

Travis buck Sexton show Bucket Eye. Working late into the evening last night in Nashville. Buck now back in Miami. I am still here in Nashville. I spent my morning thank you to my son's fourth grade class at career day.

Fun time, going in for career day.

Fun time, going in for career day.

Lots of the parents are listeners, by the way, so appreciate all of you. I don't know that we have very many fourth grade listeners, but if we do, we love all of you, and you're all very smart.

Lots of the parents are listeners, by the way, so appreciate all of you. I don't know that we have very many fourth grade listeners, but if we do, we love all of you, and you're all very smart.

Thank you for listening. We got a lot to dive into.

Thank you for listening. We got a lot to dive into.

We're going to be joined by Senator Roger Marshall of Kansas in the third hour. Just FYI, lots of senators wanting to come by and talk with all of you about a variety of different issues that are going on out there. But Buck, I wanted to start with what seems like a clear identity crisis in the Democrat Party. They spent all morning fighting the censure of Al Green, a seventy some odd year old man who was kicked out of the speech Tuesday night that Trump gave and has now been censured by the House. But really he just looked like a doddering old man kind of waving his cane randomly and haphazardly in the well of the House of Representatives. And this morning I wake up and as I'm getting ready to go talk to the fourth graders at my son's elementary school, I saw a video that I thought was satire, but it's actually a bunch of Democrat congresswomen, including AOC, pretending that they are actually boxers ready for the fight. And the amount of just cringe worthy videos that I have seen from the Democrat Party as they attempt to connect with I presume young voters, is the idea of what they're trying to trying to get into. I just they are lost, and I thought that this was a good representation of the loss. Tim Walls, who is I would say, a middle aged lesbian woman's idea of a man that will appeal to men? Is that fairback, doesn't Tim Walls look to you like a lesbian middle aged woman would.

We're going to be joined by Senator Roger Marshall of Kansas in the third hour. Just FYI, lots of senators wanting to come by and talk with all of you about a variety of different issues that are going on out there. But Buck, I wanted to start with what seems like a clear identity crisis in the Democrat Party. They spent all morning fighting the censure of Al Green, a seventy some odd year old man who was kicked out of the speech Tuesday night that Trump gave and has now been censured by the House. But really he just looked like a doddering old man kind of waving his cane randomly and haphazardly in the well of the House of Representatives. And this morning I wake up and as I'm getting ready to go talk to the fourth graders at my son's elementary school, I saw a video that I thought was satire, but it's actually a bunch of Democrat congresswomen, including AOC, pretending that they are actually boxers ready for the fight. And the amount of just cringe worthy videos that I have seen from the Democrat Party as they attempt to connect with I presume young voters, is the idea of what they're trying to trying to get into. I just they are lost, and I thought that this was a good representation of the loss. Tim Walls, who is I would say, a middle aged lesbian woman's idea of a man that will appeal to men? Is that fairback, doesn't Tim Walls look to you like a lesbian middle aged woman would.

Be like, this is a guy that's really going to speak to men?

Be like, this is a guy that's really going to speak to men?

Your analysis is always as a stute, sir, Tim Walls, a middle aged lesbians idea of a masculine man is asked, who is the leader of the Democrat Party, And this is what it sounded like on CNN.

Your analysis is always as a stute, sir, Tim Walls, a middle aged lesbians idea of a masculine man is asked, who is the leader of the Democrat Party, And this is what it sounded like on CNN.

Enjoy Sir, who do you think the leader of the Democratic Party is right now? I think the voting public right now is what I would say, and I keep doing that. We're not going to have a charismatic leader right in here and save us from this. And I would argue that the key party as it arose out of the ACA, well, where was that charismatic leader? John Vayner and Mitch McConnell and a whole bunch of angry folks at town halls that had members of Congress like myself answering questions. So when people are looking around, where's the leaders or whatever? They are going to organically step up?

Enjoy Sir, who do you think the leader of the Democratic Party is right now? I think the voting public right now is what I would say, and I keep doing that. We're not going to have a charismatic leader right in here and save us from this. And I would argue that the key party as it arose out of the ACA, well, where was that charismatic leader? John Vayner and Mitch McConnell and a whole bunch of angry folks at town halls that had members of Congress like myself answering questions. So when people are looking around, where's the leaders or whatever? They are going to organically step up?

Okay, Buck, the pause was telling. He eventually said the leader is the American public because they picked their okay, But I think the silence was telling their buck because he didn't say Kamala Harris, which I think would have been an easy answer, and he could have just said, look, she was the nominee for president twenty twenty four. She got seventy five million votes. She's the most popular Democrat politician right now. Joe Biden and Barack Obama are retired. Kamala would have been an easy answer here. It's not a crazy question to expect that you might get. What is your take on Tim Walls eventually saying Oh, the American people are the leader, and what does it say about the Democrat Party right now? I think if you ask Tim Walls a really simple and straightforward question, you're unlikely to get a particularly intelligent answer. So to ask him something for which I think to be fair, there really isn't a good answer right now, yes, puts him on the spot. To me, it's more about the obvious state of the Democrat Party than it is how Walls answered the question one way or the other, because to say Kamala would be to steer right into more of the defeat that they've already been suffering the aftermath of So I think that's not where they would want to go. And the real answer, I mean, the smart answer would be to say, oh, we have and this the Democrat Party until a minute ago would have answered it this way, Oh we have a deep bench or they ustill love to say that we have a deep bench, and they would rattle off a bunch of names, they Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmer and Kamala Harris and I can't even and it's up to the Democrat voter who's going to lead in the next election, but we have so many instead.

Okay, Buck, the pause was telling. He eventually said the leader is the American public because they picked their okay, But I think the silence was telling their buck because he didn't say Kamala Harris, which I think would have been an easy answer, and he could have just said, look, she was the nominee for president twenty twenty four. She got seventy five million votes. She's the most popular Democrat politician right now. Joe Biden and Barack Obama are retired. Kamala would have been an easy answer here. It's not a crazy question to expect that you might get. What is your take on Tim Walls eventually saying Oh, the American people are the leader, and what does it say about the Democrat Party right now? I think if you ask Tim Walls a really simple and straightforward question, you're unlikely to get a particularly intelligent answer. So to ask him something for which I think to be fair, there really isn't a good answer right now, yes, puts him on the spot. To me, it's more about the obvious state of the Democrat Party than it is how Walls answered the question one way or the other, because to say Kamala would be to steer right into more of the defeat that they've already been suffering the aftermath of So I think that's not where they would want to go. And the real answer, I mean, the smart answer would be to say, oh, we have and this the Democrat Party until a minute ago would have answered it this way, Oh we have a deep bench or they ustill love to say that we have a deep bench, and they would rattle off a bunch of names, they Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmer and Kamala Harris and I can't even and it's up to the Democrat voter who's going to lead in the next election, but we have so many instead.

He looks completely flabbergasted.

He looks completely flabbergasted.

And I think that a big part of that is any of the people that would come to mind as the names for the Democrat leadership right now, even among Democrats, could be a liability. In just a few months, it could become very clear that this isn't or you don't know when it will become clear that this is not a person that you actually think the Democrats can rally behind it can do anything meaningful to bring their party out of the nosedive that it is still going through. So yeah, I think that when you look at Democrat leadership, you're going to have to see some of these individuals who I just named presenting themselves to unfriendly media, which will be very interesting. I think they're going to have to go outside of the usual left wing ideological bubble zones just in order to make them seem normal. The problem the Democrats have fundamentally is that they became a party led by and led on behalf of weirdos that doesn't look good, and Tim Wallas, of course try the JD Vance is weird. Jd Vance is maybe the least weird politician I've ever seen in my life. That was not a good attack. Also to me, the answer says Tim Walls maybe thinking that he is the answer and that he's planning on running for president, and because if he says someone else, then maybe it's a little bit harder to fundraise, Maybe it's a little bit harder to actually argue that you should be the face of the Democrat Party. To me, when he's saying, oh, it's the people, he's then going to claim, oh, I can go be the voice of the people. I think he thinks that he has a future in the Democrat Party, and I think the challenge for him is Tim Walls is not going to appeal to men, and we can maybe get into Gavin Newsom, who I think is trying to come back out of the California wildfire debacle and reassert himself as a national spokesperson for Democrats and buck what is Gavin Newsom trying to claim that he actually a moderate, middle of the road centrist Democrat, which suggests to me that he is aware of just how toxic the left wing of his party has been, and that having a fight with them is not necessarily the worst thing that could happen for his political future.

And I think that a big part of that is any of the people that would come to mind as the names for the Democrat leadership right now, even among Democrats, could be a liability. In just a few months, it could become very clear that this isn't or you don't know when it will become clear that this is not a person that you actually think the Democrats can rally behind it can do anything meaningful to bring their party out of the nosedive that it is still going through. So yeah, I think that when you look at Democrat leadership, you're going to have to see some of these individuals who I just named presenting themselves to unfriendly media, which will be very interesting. I think they're going to have to go outside of the usual left wing ideological bubble zones just in order to make them seem normal. The problem the Democrats have fundamentally is that they became a party led by and led on behalf of weirdos that doesn't look good, and Tim Wallas, of course try the JD Vance is weird. Jd Vance is maybe the least weird politician I've ever seen in my life. That was not a good attack. Also to me, the answer says Tim Walls maybe thinking that he is the answer and that he's planning on running for president, and because if he says someone else, then maybe it's a little bit harder to fundraise, Maybe it's a little bit harder to actually argue that you should be the face of the Democrat Party. To me, when he's saying, oh, it's the people, he's then going to claim, oh, I can go be the voice of the people. I think he thinks that he has a future in the Democrat Party, and I think the challenge for him is Tim Walls is not going to appeal to men, and we can maybe get into Gavin Newsom, who I think is trying to come back out of the California wildfire debacle and reassert himself as a national spokesperson for Democrats and buck what is Gavin Newsom trying to claim that he actually a moderate, middle of the road centrist Democrat, which suggests to me that he is aware of just how toxic the left wing of his party has been, and that having a fight with them is not necessarily the worst thing that could happen for his political future.

I think the.

I think the.

Problem is do you really believe that one Democrats want to want to put forward a white guy? Maybe they do, But two, that Gavin Newsom, coming from California, given what just happened to Kamala Harris, is a California Democrat really on the national stage damaged by what happened with Kamala Harris? Or do you think buck Kamala is her uniquely own character and so her background doesn't really matter because she's got to figure out what her next step is too, which is its own funny story as well.

Problem is do you really believe that one Democrats want to want to put forward a white guy? Maybe they do, But two, that Gavin Newsom, coming from California, given what just happened to Kamala Harris, is a California Democrat really on the national stage damaged by what happened with Kamala Harris? Or do you think buck Kamala is her uniquely own character and so her background doesn't really matter because she's got to figure out what her next step is too, which is its own funny story as well.

Well.

Well.

I think you can only have one alpha dog in any state in American politics right now, of the same party.

I think you can only have one alpha dog in any state in American politics right now, of the same party.

Right So I think that Gavin Newsom is very clearly uh. I know he just launched his podcast. Claire, are you gonna go on the Gavin Newsom Podcast? I haven't been invited, but I would.

Right So I think that Gavin Newsom is very clearly uh. I know he just launched his podcast. Claire, are you gonna go on the Gavin Newsom Podcast? I haven't been invited, but I would.

I mean, I'll go and talk to anybody as long as it's not edited, Like I don't want to talk to somebody for an hour and have them clip six minutes randomly of it.

I mean, I'll go and talk to anybody as long as it's not edited, Like I don't want to talk to somebody for an hour and have them clip six minutes randomly of it.

As long as it's the full conversation.

As long as it's the full conversation.

I'll go on anyone that has a substantial, by the way, substantial audience. I don't want to go on you and your brother's podcast that you just started, but yes, I'm busy, Yes I would do it.

I'll go on anyone that has a substantial, by the way, substantial audience. I don't want to go on you and your brother's podcast that you just started, but yes, I'm busy, Yes I would do it.

Would you? I would go on you and your brother's podcast. I think Clay is being very mean.

Would you? I would go on you and your brother's podcast. I think Clay is being very mean.

Now.

Now.

I don't have time to go on you and your brother's podcast unless it was the Kelsey brothers.

I don't have time to go on you and your brother's podcast unless it was the Kelsey brothers.

Maybe they have a big podcast, would you following?

Maybe they have a big podcast, would you following?

Which is amazing to me at all because I don't think they have anything interesting to say at all, but evidently it works.

Which is amazing to me at all because I don't think they have anything interesting to say at all, but evidently it works.

What would you do Gavin Newsom's podcast? Absolutely? I think.

What would you do Gavin Newsom's podcast? Absolutely? I think.

Look, I'm it's funny because they asked if I would go.

Look, I'm it's funny because they asked if I would go.

On Fox this afternoon, Clay, and they have a.

On Fox this afternoon, Clay, and they have a.

Former Obama Obama guy who we're going to have some debate or something.

Former Obama Obama guy who we're going to have some debate or something.

I mean, it'll be three minutes long.

I mean, it'll be three minutes long.

We'll both get to talk one and a half times, probably, but you know, I'll make my points, they'll make his points. It's interesting, though, because Fox News for a while was, as you know, frozen out by Democrats, they refuse to go on. Really generally, the only Democrats who would go on were clay pigeons. They were there to get blown to smithereens on air, and you know, for the amusement of the audience. And I think that that's changing now because they have to, they have to just switch things up, that they can't continue on with the current trajectory because it's not only that they're party lost, it's that they don't have the same control of the information ecosystem that they used to, so they can't just rely on the New York Times CNN Axis of Evil to propagate all kinds of nonsense all over the country because people aren't watching and people don't care. They don't have the same gravitas that they even were managing, I think up until this election. So you're going to see more Democrats crossing over into unfriendly media because they have to, which we'll expose them, by the way, because most of them are actually not up to the task and not up to the challenge of making their arguments. Kim Walls certainly is in. I mean, Tim Wall's got so schooled by jd Vance in the debate. I almost started I feel kind of bad for him, you know. But then then I remind myself that he had a snitch line over COVID. I'm like, nope, nope, he deserves it. But the Democrats don't have anybody right now who I think is particularly adept in that forum of presentation and exchange of ideas on the political side. I don't think they They don't have a particularly strong team on the media side either right now. So I sit here and I keep looking for worthy adversaries on the left, and all I see are people who insist on pretending that men don't actually have an advantage over women.

We'll both get to talk one and a half times, probably, but you know, I'll make my points, they'll make his points. It's interesting, though, because Fox News for a while was, as you know, frozen out by Democrats, they refuse to go on. Really generally, the only Democrats who would go on were clay pigeons. They were there to get blown to smithereens on air, and you know, for the amusement of the audience. And I think that that's changing now because they have to, they have to just switch things up, that they can't continue on with the current trajectory because it's not only that they're party lost, it's that they don't have the same control of the information ecosystem that they used to, so they can't just rely on the New York Times CNN Axis of Evil to propagate all kinds of nonsense all over the country because people aren't watching and people don't care. They don't have the same gravitas that they even were managing, I think up until this election. So you're going to see more Democrats crossing over into unfriendly media because they have to, which we'll expose them, by the way, because most of them are actually not up to the task and not up to the challenge of making their arguments. Kim Walls certainly is in. I mean, Tim Wall's got so schooled by jd Vance in the debate. I almost started I feel kind of bad for him, you know. But then then I remind myself that he had a snitch line over COVID. I'm like, nope, nope, he deserves it. But the Democrats don't have anybody right now who I think is particularly adept in that forum of presentation and exchange of ideas on the political side. I don't think they They don't have a particularly strong team on the media side either right now. So I sit here and I keep looking for worthy adversaries on the left, and all I see are people who insist on pretending that men don't actually have an advantage over women.

In sports, et cetera.

In sports, et cetera.

It's sad out there right now for the Democrats, which is why Trump's got to hit the accelerator and keep going.

It's sad out there right now for the Democrats, which is why Trump's got to hit the accelerator and keep going.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not only that, but I really think I know next year is the is the mid term, and a lot will happen between now and the midterms. But if you look at the battlegrounds Trump one Nevada, Trump one, Arizona, Trump one, Georgia, Trump one Michigan. Just those four they all have double Democrat senators. If Trump can win that state, then to me, a really good, solid Republican candidate in those states should be able to win two.

Not only that, but I really think I know next year is the is the mid term, and a lot will happen between now and the midterms. But if you look at the battlegrounds Trump one Nevada, Trump one, Arizona, Trump one, Georgia, Trump one Michigan. Just those four they all have double Democrat senators. If Trump can win that state, then to me, a really good, solid Republican candidate in those states should be able to win two.

That's eight seats. Buck, that's eight seats. It's not even counting Fetterman. It's not even.

That's eight seats. Buck, that's eight seats. It's not even counting Fetterman. It's not even.

Counting the Wisconsin other states that Trump won that have Democrat senators. I'm just saying, like, at a minimum, Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, and Georgia should have at least one Republican senator based on the fact of how Republicans have done. And I think that's setting up for a disaster potentially going forward for Democrats. The big goal here because I think that there has been a sense that the best that Trump is going to have for a wide open field is the next eighteen months, which I.

Counting the Wisconsin other states that Trump won that have Democrat senators. I'm just saying, like, at a minimum, Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, and Georgia should have at least one Republican senator based on the fact of how Republicans have done. And I think that's setting up for a disaster potentially going forward for Democrats. The big goal here because I think that there has been a sense that the best that Trump is going to have for a wide open field is the next eighteen months, which I.

Believe is likely to be the case.

Believe is likely to be the case.

People are starting to talking about sixty Senate seats now, I know, and that's now you're talking about anything. The Republicans really want to get done, they'd be in a position to do if they got sixty Senate seats. And I know that the midterms feels like it's a long way off now we just finished this election, But why not have that goal right, Why not look at it as instead of, oh, we're going to lose some seats in the midterms, which tends to be the historical trajectory. Why not say, keep the pressure on, keep the executive orders going, keep DOSEE flowing, keep it all happening, and maybe we can get to sixty Senate seats as the goal, and then you can really transformed things. And you can do it without Trump having to even face a reelection, which means things could get If you think his executive orders are interesting, just wait until we get to sixty Senate seats and a majority in the House. Although we got to get there first, sixty Senate seats would truly allow transformative outcomes in the United States. As we talked to Senator Thun, the majority leader, that's the number you have to get to to really be able to get things moving in a rapid fashion in the Senate, because otherwise they'll hold it up. Now, Republicans have never had sixty seats in the Senate, have they?

People are starting to talking about sixty Senate seats now, I know, and that's now you're talking about anything. The Republicans really want to get done, they'd be in a position to do if they got sixty Senate seats. And I know that the midterms feels like it's a long way off now we just finished this election, But why not have that goal right, Why not look at it as instead of, oh, we're going to lose some seats in the midterms, which tends to be the historical trajectory. Why not say, keep the pressure on, keep the executive orders going, keep DOSEE flowing, keep it all happening, and maybe we can get to sixty Senate seats as the goal, and then you can really transformed things. And you can do it without Trump having to even face a reelection, which means things could get If you think his executive orders are interesting, just wait until we get to sixty Senate seats and a majority in the House. Although we got to get there first, sixty Senate seats would truly allow transformative outcomes in the United States. As we talked to Senator Thun, the majority leader, that's the number you have to get to to really be able to get things moving in a rapid fashion in the Senate, because otherwise they'll hold it up. Now, Republicans have never had sixty seats in the Senate, have they?

I can't.

I can't.

I mean, I don't know historically if the Republican it's a good question for our team to look up. I don't know if historically Republicans have ever had sixty Senate seats. I don't think it's ever happened in anybody listening's recent, like in the last forty or fifty years, it certainly hasn't ever happened. That's a good question. That's why it would be so transformative. Again, we're not talking about simple majority. We're talking about a basically filibuster proof majority, which would be extraordinary.

I mean, I don't know historically if the Republican it's a good question for our team to look up. I don't know if historically Republicans have ever had sixty Senate seats. I don't think it's ever happened in anybody listening's recent, like in the last forty or fifty years, it certainly hasn't ever happened. That's a good question. That's why it would be so transformative. Again, we're not talking about simple majority. We're talking about a basically filibuster proof majority, which would be extraordinary.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think the last time the GOP had fifty six seats back in nineteen twenty nine. So that's the high water mark one hundred years ago, I I believe. So, I mean that's just me going fast here with with Google. I gotta start using rock more. Have you seen what people are pulling with groc oh, right.

I think the last time the GOP had fifty six seats back in nineteen twenty nine. So that's the high water mark one hundred years ago, I I believe. So, I mean that's just me going fast here with with Google. I gotta start using rock more. Have you seen what people are pulling with groc oh, right.

Have I seen it?

Have I seen it?

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Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. Buck, I asked you as we went to break in the last segment. Certainly Scott Jennings, so we've had on the show, I think a couple of times has been doing a really good job on CNN as their token Republican defender, and they have an entire panel of Democrat morons who try to argue with them, and he often slices and dices them. That is plays well on social media, it hasn't really cut through if you look at the ratings I saw when Brett Bayer interviewed h Zolensky. This numbers were out. They were just massive for Brett Bahyer like all time highs. I saw for the President's address on Tuesday Day, and some of you keep it it was an address to Congress, not a State of the Union. Okay, all right, I appreciate it. The President's basically state of the Union, which is a little bit different because we have the election that happens and it doesn't happen till March. But ten million people watched Fox, one point nine million watch CNN, one point nine million watched MSNBC. We're talking about Fox regularly now posting seventy percent share on cable news. Do you think there's a market for actual debate which would actually be going back in time? Remember Tucker Carlson used to be on the show Crossfire. You would have a legitimate head to head discussion on CNN. That was the way they covered it back. Even Hannity used to be on with was it Comb's Congress?

Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. Buck, I asked you as we went to break in the last segment. Certainly Scott Jennings, so we've had on the show, I think a couple of times has been doing a really good job on CNN as their token Republican defender, and they have an entire panel of Democrat morons who try to argue with them, and he often slices and dices them. That is plays well on social media, it hasn't really cut through if you look at the ratings I saw when Brett Bayer interviewed h Zolensky. This numbers were out. They were just massive for Brett Bahyer like all time highs. I saw for the President's address on Tuesday Day, and some of you keep it it was an address to Congress, not a State of the Union. Okay, all right, I appreciate it. The President's basically state of the Union, which is a little bit different because we have the election that happens and it doesn't happen till March. But ten million people watched Fox, one point nine million watch CNN, one point nine million watched MSNBC. We're talking about Fox regularly now posting seventy percent share on cable news. Do you think there's a market for actual debate which would actually be going back in time? Remember Tucker Carlson used to be on the show Crossfire. You would have a legitimate head to head discussion on CNN. That was the way they covered it back. Even Hannity used to be on with was it Comb's Congress?

Oh?

Oh?

I was a Hanny.

I was a Hanny.

I was an avid Handy and Combs watcher back when I was in college.

I was an avid Handy and Combs watcher back when I was in college.

So yeah, I remember. So those don't really rate and exist. Now.

So yeah, I remember. So those don't really rate and exist. Now.

Is there a market for that for real debate in your mind? Or does it only work on social media? Clip to versions.

Is there a market for that for real debate in your mind? Or does it only work on social media? Clip to versions.

You can take it.

You can take it.

All the way back to what Firing Line with William F. Buckley and William F. Buckley and Gore Vidal at the conventions to be real debates out there and other than like Bill Maher where you can get a smart sometimes smart Republican ish person and a smart Democrat Ish person, there aren't real debate shows other than what CNN's trying with Scott Jennings. What I think happened with the Democrat media ecosystem, which we used to call the mainstream media, but I think rightly people abandon that term because why give them the credibility of calling them the mainstream media? Why are they mainstream? So I agree with that, But the corporate Democrat media, legacy media, however you want to describe it. They used to control so much of the piping, if you will, that the content could be whatever they wanted it to be, and there wasn't really much in the way of an infrastructure on the other side for competition, exceptions being of course Rush Talk Radio, Fox News, but.

All the way back to what Firing Line with William F. Buckley and William F. Buckley and Gore Vidal at the conventions to be real debates out there and other than like Bill Maher where you can get a smart sometimes smart Republican ish person and a smart Democrat Ish person, there aren't real debate shows other than what CNN's trying with Scott Jennings. What I think happened with the Democrat media ecosystem, which we used to call the mainstream media, but I think rightly people abandon that term because why give them the credibility of calling them the mainstream media? Why are they mainstream? So I agree with that, But the corporate Democrat media, legacy media, however you want to describe it. They used to control so much of the piping, if you will, that the content could be whatever they wanted it to be, and there wasn't really much in the way of an infrastructure on the other side for competition, exceptions being of course Rush Talk Radio, Fox News, but.

Those were relatively recent.

Those were relatively recent.

I mean, when you start to compare this to the New York Times, I mean, when you compare this to some of the outlets that the Democrats have been able to rely on. They they've been running this game for a long time. And you go all the way back to what's his name, Cronkite, and you go back to the days when there were only a handful of TV news anchors that had tremendous way over public opinion. They were libs, by the way, but not libs in the current context lives back then, and I would just say, what's happened, Clay, is that the social media gave them a big jolt of control all over again, and then they became these echo chambers of insanity where you could just start promoting the craziest ideas from college campuses in the I don't know. I want to say maybe in the early two thousands you start to see this, maybe toward the end or middle to end of the Bush administration bubbling up. More and more Obama administration comes along, and all of a sudden, you have the main streaming of socialism, left wing radical ideas, extremely poisonous uh DEI and race politics, and all of this, you know, gets gets completely injected into the American body politic for eight years of Obama. But then things just got crazier and crazier, and under Biden, well under COVID really and then you know, for Biden's term, I think they just reached I don't know if you know, there's like terminal velocity. Isn't that when you're you jump out of a plane and you go to the absolute fastest speed that your mass can travel. I think that's terminal velocity. It was there was a bad movie in the nineties based on that. That's what immediately comes to mind is the movie. But yeah, I think that terminal velocity. I think Democrats under Biden politically have reached terminal insanity. Uh, they got about as crazy as they could be, and now they're dealing with the backlash from a majority of the American people of you guys, can't just be totally insane. You can't have a dementia puppet as the president and we all then see it and we all know it, and you don't suffer political consequences. The Democrats deeply deserve the pathetic and ignominious post election party that they are mired in right now.

I mean, when you start to compare this to the New York Times, I mean, when you compare this to some of the outlets that the Democrats have been able to rely on. They they've been running this game for a long time. And you go all the way back to what's his name, Cronkite, and you go back to the days when there were only a handful of TV news anchors that had tremendous way over public opinion. They were libs, by the way, but not libs in the current context lives back then, and I would just say, what's happened, Clay, is that the social media gave them a big jolt of control all over again, and then they became these echo chambers of insanity where you could just start promoting the craziest ideas from college campuses in the I don't know. I want to say maybe in the early two thousands you start to see this, maybe toward the end or middle to end of the Bush administration bubbling up. More and more Obama administration comes along, and all of a sudden, you have the main streaming of socialism, left wing radical ideas, extremely poisonous uh DEI and race politics, and all of this, you know, gets gets completely injected into the American body politic for eight years of Obama. But then things just got crazier and crazier, and under Biden, well under COVID really and then you know, for Biden's term, I think they just reached I don't know if you know, there's like terminal velocity. Isn't that when you're you jump out of a plane and you go to the absolute fastest speed that your mass can travel. I think that's terminal velocity. It was there was a bad movie in the nineties based on that. That's what immediately comes to mind is the movie. But yeah, I think that terminal velocity. I think Democrats under Biden politically have reached terminal insanity. Uh, they got about as crazy as they could be, and now they're dealing with the backlash from a majority of the American people of you guys, can't just be totally insane. You can't have a dementia puppet as the president and we all then see it and we all know it, and you don't suffer political consequences. The Democrats deeply deserve the pathetic and ignominious post election party that they are mired in right now.

It's exactly what they should have.

It's exactly what they should have.

They earned this, they own this, So let them wallow a bit, let them be sad they don't make good arguments, And to a large extent, they don't make good arguments because they don't have to grapple with the other side's argument. Because when you have convinced yourself that your opponent is Adolf Hitler, your argument doesn't have to be that good, right, I mean, I think that's in their mind what we saw. Even Gavin Newsom, who I think is a relatively intelligent Democrat, ron to say this the floor with him when Sean Hannity hosted their debate about a year and a half ago or whatever it was. You remember that basically came down to our COVID leadership, of course, But on the Hitler comparison, which we used to talk about here with some frequency in the lead at the election, because it was it was daily programming at MSNBES. He was Hitler, he was Hitler, and it's you're really, how can you think you're a serious person worthy? How could you think of yourself as a public intellectual or however they want to a pundit whatever, How are you want to describe yourself if you're going to say that a recent American president who is leading your candidate in the polls who also happens to be by far the choice of the entire state of Israel if they were able to We all know this. I think Trump is outside of America, probably more popular in Israel than any other country in the world. Not that I general Trump is popular in Israel like he's popular in West Virginia or Wyoming. States that he won by the largest Ish margins in the twenty twenty four election, that contextualizes it. And I just think if you can, if you were trying to be at all a serious person, you'd have to say, I don't think the guy who has the overwhelming support of the entire population of the Jewish State is Hitlarian.

They earned this, they own this, So let them wallow a bit, let them be sad they don't make good arguments, And to a large extent, they don't make good arguments because they don't have to grapple with the other side's argument. Because when you have convinced yourself that your opponent is Adolf Hitler, your argument doesn't have to be that good, right, I mean, I think that's in their mind what we saw. Even Gavin Newsom, who I think is a relatively intelligent Democrat, ron to say this the floor with him when Sean Hannity hosted their debate about a year and a half ago or whatever it was. You remember that basically came down to our COVID leadership, of course, But on the Hitler comparison, which we used to talk about here with some frequency in the lead at the election, because it was it was daily programming at MSNBES. He was Hitler, he was Hitler, and it's you're really, how can you think you're a serious person worthy? How could you think of yourself as a public intellectual or however they want to a pundit whatever, How are you want to describe yourself if you're going to say that a recent American president who is leading your candidate in the polls who also happens to be by far the choice of the entire state of Israel if they were able to We all know this. I think Trump is outside of America, probably more popular in Israel than any other country in the world. Not that I general Trump is popular in Israel like he's popular in West Virginia or Wyoming. States that he won by the largest Ish margins in the twenty twenty four election, that contextualizes it. And I just think if you can, if you were trying to be at all a serious person, you'd have to say, I don't think the guy who has the overwhelming support of the entire population of the Jewish State is Hitlarian.

Yes, I don't think you could be a serious person.

Yes, I don't think you could be a serious person.

And if you remember, you know when I had the sit down, you mentioned Bill Maher, and Bill was trying to be reasonable, and there were a couple of Democrats at that table. They were just shrieking about the same nonsense about racism and the insurrection and all this stuff, and they forgot that people actually care about what's happening in the country right now. That's reality to them. They care about the economy, they care about the border, they care about crime, They care about things that are measurable and real, not just narratives that create emotionally destabilized zombies running around talking about the insurrection all the time.

And if you remember, you know when I had the sit down, you mentioned Bill Maher, and Bill was trying to be reasonable, and there were a couple of Democrats at that table. They were just shrieking about the same nonsense about racism and the insurrection and all this stuff, and they forgot that people actually care about what's happening in the country right now. That's reality to them. They care about the economy, they care about the border, they care about crime, They care about things that are measurable and real, not just narratives that create emotionally destabilized zombies running around talking about the insurrection all the time.

And so this is I think it's this is my way of saying Clay.

And so this is I think it's this is my way of saying Clay.

Democrats need this. It's like a cleansing of their souls that is going on right now. It's a reset that must occur because they really went insane. I think there's a lot of truth to that, and there is on social media a great demand for the intersection. We'll play some Gavin Newsom, and it seems to me that Gavin Newsom is trying to engage in some way with people on the other side of the aisle. I think there's a desperate demand actually for that. I'm not sure it translates on television because Buck, you're gonna do Fox News in a little bit, and I know Fox News has a massive audience. But from a social media perspective, it often feels like basically television exists so that small segments of television can be clipped and shared on social media, whether it's TikTok, whether it's Instagram reels, whether it's whether it's Twitter. If you go on and look at oftentimes what is popular or what is trending. A huge percentage of the time it's somebody taking a couple of minutes from video. It doesn't just have to be television, right It could be a podcast version of video, whatever else that's popular on YouTube. It is just video that's pulled and then put to circulate on social media. So I guess one of the things I wonder about, because we're talking about Scott Jennings, is to what extent is what's popular on social media reflective of what would be popular on television, And in many ways, given the fact that television is running into video all over the Internet, what does television even exist and look like in the years ahead? What I do know is Democrats have lost the ability. If you look at that video they put up of all the women boxing and everything else to connect with younger people on social media, they just look profoundly dorky and unfun And that is not a good recipe for how to cut through in this current era. And I think it's emblematic of why Republicans have done so well with men, because men look at some of the stuff that's being put out by Democrats and just roll their eyes over the fact that they have gone completely insane. Yes, and I don't think it's going to get better for them anytime soon. I think it's likely to continue as it is right now. On the points about democratic leadership, I mean, Harry Entin, this is cut five. He says that at the speech, the Democrats reaction to Trump's speech, which we talked to you about earlier in the week, shows just why the Democrat Party is really at its least popular has ever been.

Democrats need this. It's like a cleansing of their souls that is going on right now. It's a reset that must occur because they really went insane. I think there's a lot of truth to that, and there is on social media a great demand for the intersection. We'll play some Gavin Newsom, and it seems to me that Gavin Newsom is trying to engage in some way with people on the other side of the aisle. I think there's a desperate demand actually for that. I'm not sure it translates on television because Buck, you're gonna do Fox News in a little bit, and I know Fox News has a massive audience. But from a social media perspective, it often feels like basically television exists so that small segments of television can be clipped and shared on social media, whether it's TikTok, whether it's Instagram reels, whether it's whether it's Twitter. If you go on and look at oftentimes what is popular or what is trending. A huge percentage of the time it's somebody taking a couple of minutes from video. It doesn't just have to be television, right It could be a podcast version of video, whatever else that's popular on YouTube. It is just video that's pulled and then put to circulate on social media. So I guess one of the things I wonder about, because we're talking about Scott Jennings, is to what extent is what's popular on social media reflective of what would be popular on television, And in many ways, given the fact that television is running into video all over the Internet, what does television even exist and look like in the years ahead? What I do know is Democrats have lost the ability. If you look at that video they put up of all the women boxing and everything else to connect with younger people on social media, they just look profoundly dorky and unfun And that is not a good recipe for how to cut through in this current era. And I think it's emblematic of why Republicans have done so well with men, because men look at some of the stuff that's being put out by Democrats and just roll their eyes over the fact that they have gone completely insane. Yes, and I don't think it's going to get better for them anytime soon. I think it's likely to continue as it is right now. On the points about democratic leadership, I mean, Harry Entin, this is cut five. He says that at the speech, the Democrats reaction to Trump's speech, which we talked to you about earlier in the week, shows just why the Democrat Party is really at its least popular has ever been.

This is cut five player.

This is cut five player.

There's a reason why congressional Democrats have like a twenty percent approval rating, and even amongst their own party has like a forty percent, the lowest Quinipiac has ever measured. And I think last night and sort of what's been going on over the past few months is a gosh darn good.

There's a reason why congressional Democrats have like a twenty percent approval rating, and even amongst their own party has like a forty percent, the lowest Quinipiac has ever measured. And I think last night and sort of what's been going on over the past few months is a gosh darn good.

Illustration that Clay.

Illustration that Clay.

There's there's really nothing for them to point to right now that I think is positive for their party in a broad sense of trying to go into the midterms and the inevitable presidential campaign. And I think, if anything, they may put themselves in a position where they're preparing to fight the last political war because all they've done now for ten years is run against Trump unsuccessfully. In the end, I might add, right when push came to shove, Trump beat them and their whole party turned into this anti Trump. They they have to go through a metamorphosis. There is a transformation that I think Democrats will have to. Now it's not gonna be on every I'm not saying they're going to become a pro life party or you know, they're not going to change that kind of stuff, but in the way they present and in the way they focus on issues and fight the media war to try to sway that middle three to five percent of voters, you know, which doesn't.

There's there's really nothing for them to point to right now that I think is positive for their party in a broad sense of trying to go into the midterms and the inevitable presidential campaign. And I think, if anything, they may put themselves in a position where they're preparing to fight the last political war because all they've done now for ten years is run against Trump unsuccessfully. In the end, I might add, right when push came to shove, Trump beat them and their whole party turned into this anti Trump. They they have to go through a metamorphosis. There is a transformation that I think Democrats will have to. Now it's not gonna be on every I'm not saying they're going to become a pro life party or you know, they're not going to change that kind of stuff, but in the way they present and in the way they focus on issues and fight the media war to try to sway that middle three to five percent of voters, you know, which doesn't.

It's funny, isn't it. That's all we're really talking about. But they're going to have to.

It's funny, isn't it. That's all we're really talking about. But they're going to have to.

Change the way that they're presented because there are a lot of people that will vote Democrat no matter what. We know that they just seventy five million of them voted for Kamala. A couple a quarter of a million people voting for Democrats over Republicans in a handful of well in half a dozen states would have changed the election toward the Democrats. So it's not like we're sitting here saying the Democrats don't have a massive infrastructure and millions and millions of people who are voting for any Democratic candidate they put up. But how will they not have the same result going forward? And also how will they avoid the public repudiation that comes every time they.

Change the way that they're presented because there are a lot of people that will vote Democrat no matter what. We know that they just seventy five million of them voted for Kamala. A couple a quarter of a million people voting for Democrats over Republicans in a handful of well in half a dozen states would have changed the election toward the Democrats. So it's not like we're sitting here saying the Democrats don't have a massive infrastructure and millions and millions of people who are voting for any Democratic candidate they put up. But how will they not have the same result going forward? And also how will they avoid the public repudiation that comes every time they.

Try to present their arguments. Now, well, I mean there's stuff. The stuff they're saying is silly. They look silly.

Try to present their arguments. Now, well, I mean there's stuff. The stuff they're saying is silly. They look silly.

I think there are so two things that build out of that. One they have not reached the look in the mirror and acknowledge that you have a bad message and that's why people didn't vote for you, not because your message wasn't heard well enough. That's the debate that they're currently having. Second part of this buck and this is where I think they're going to end up. I think they will move from Trump is Hitler. Watch how fast happens and clip this save it for a couple of years in the future. As we get ready for twenty eight this pivot's going to happen. They're going to move from Trump is Hitler to Trump is a uniquely talented politician that Republicans cannot replicate, and that's why he won in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four.

I think there are so two things that build out of that. One they have not reached the look in the mirror and acknowledge that you have a bad message and that's why people didn't vote for you, not because your message wasn't heard well enough. That's the debate that they're currently having. Second part of this buck and this is where I think they're going to end up. I think they will move from Trump is Hitler. Watch how fast happens and clip this save it for a couple of years in the future. As we get ready for twenty eight this pivot's going to happen. They're going to move from Trump is Hitler to Trump is a uniquely talented politician that Republicans cannot replicate, and that's why he won in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four.

Initially it was Russia.

Initially it was Russia.

Then Ittzi's Hitler, all of his supporters are racist, buck Get ready for this. There's Once he's out of the picture, they're going to start arguing how talented he actually was, and they're going to argue that trump Ism the MAGA universe does not translate to jd Vance or whomever is seen as the successor, and they are going to struggle to produce the support that Trump did. Much like we've pointed out, Obama really didn't have very many cotails. He was a uniquely talented individual politician that was not able to bring his party that much success. Yes, they're going to start to argue that Trump is that Get ready for it. They're gonna go from Trump is Hitler, Russia's the only reason he won to Boy, he's really good at this, but it's not going to translate to the next Republican That is I think the cope that they will move towards in the wake of the midterm elections when Trump is coming off the ballot.

Then Ittzi's Hitler, all of his supporters are racist, buck Get ready for this. There's Once he's out of the picture, they're going to start arguing how talented he actually was, and they're going to argue that trump Ism the MAGA universe does not translate to jd Vance or whomever is seen as the successor, and they are going to struggle to produce the support that Trump did. Much like we've pointed out, Obama really didn't have very many cotails. He was a uniquely talented individual politician that was not able to bring his party that much success. Yes, they're going to start to argue that Trump is that Get ready for it. They're gonna go from Trump is Hitler, Russia's the only reason he won to Boy, he's really good at this, but it's not going to translate to the next Republican That is I think the cope that they will move towards in the wake of the midterm elections when Trump is coming off the ballot.

Get ready for it.

Get ready for it.

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Okay, we're marching our way through to get to exactly the heart of amount of New York Times big headline today about Gavin Newsom breaking with his party. I don't think that's what happened, just based on what we've already heard. Clay heard the full clip before I only seen a partial transcript, and I didn't hear a break with any I heard Gavin Newsom being unctious, oleaginous Gavin Newsom. I did not hear any all of a sudden little hint of bravery coming from him. So with that said, Oh and also I would just know we thought today we might be talking about a big executive order that would shut down the Department of Education effectively. That has been delayed for now. We don't know it is being reported. That's not happening today, was reported last night. It would happened today. So we're on that. We're aware, but for now, that's not going to be a new store we're diving into because it hasn't happened yet. Okay, back to Newsom, Let's play now this clip, because Clay, from what I heard, it's funny you heard the whole thing. I've just heard pieces, and just from the snippets, I'm going I don't think this guy, Gavin Newsom, is changing anything. I think he's playing games here. This is the continuation he had our friend Charlie kirk on. This is the continuation of that conversation.

Okay, we're marching our way through to get to exactly the heart of amount of New York Times big headline today about Gavin Newsom breaking with his party. I don't think that's what happened, just based on what we've already heard. Clay heard the full clip before I only seen a partial transcript, and I didn't hear a break with any I heard Gavin Newsom being unctious, oleaginous Gavin Newsom. I did not hear any all of a sudden little hint of bravery coming from him. So with that said, Oh and also I would just know we thought today we might be talking about a big executive order that would shut down the Department of Education effectively. That has been delayed for now. We don't know it is being reported. That's not happening today, was reported last night. It would happened today. So we're on that. We're aware, but for now, that's not going to be a new store we're diving into because it hasn't happened yet. Okay, back to Newsom, Let's play now this clip, because Clay, from what I heard, it's funny you heard the whole thing. I've just heard pieces, and just from the snippets, I'm going I don't think this guy, Gavin Newsom, is changing anything. I think he's playing games here. This is the continuation he had our friend Charlie kirk on. This is the continuation of that conversation.

Play it.

Play it.

You right now should come out and be like, you know what, the young man who's about to win the state championship in the long jump in female sports, right, that's that that shouldn't happen. You as the governor should step out and say no, no, And I appreciate, and but like, would you do something like that, would you say no men in female sports?

You right now should come out and be like, you know what, the young man who's about to win the state championship in the long jump in female sports, right, that's that that shouldn't happen. You as the governor should step out and say no, no, And I appreciate, and but like, would you do something like that, would you say no men in female sports?

Well, I think it's an issue of fairness. I completely agree with you on that. So that's easy to call out the unfairness of that. There's also a humility and a grace. You know that that these poor people are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety and depression, and the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that I have a hard time with as well, So both things I can hold in my hand. How can we address this issue with the kind of decency that I think you know it's inherent in you, but not always expressed.

Well, I think it's an issue of fairness. I completely agree with you on that. So that's easy to call out the unfairness of that. There's also a humility and a grace. You know that that these poor people are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety and depression, and the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that I have a hard time with as well, So both things I can hold in my hand. How can we address this issue with the kind of decency that I think you know it's inherent in you, but not always expressed.

Now that I've heard this, Clay, this is merely a tactical retreat back to what it used to be with this issue. Wish is what's the It's about consideration. It's about let's just try to be more courteous to each other. So just use the preferred pronoun out of courtesy. Note when they could, when they finally got what they wanted with the Democrats, it turned into use the preferred wrong pronoun or you lose your job. Now they're going back to can we just be courteous to each other?

Now that I've heard this, Clay, this is merely a tactical retreat back to what it used to be with this issue. Wish is what's the It's about consideration. It's about let's just try to be more courteous to each other. So just use the preferred pronoun out of courtesy. Note when they could, when they finally got what they wanted with the Democrats, it turned into use the preferred wrong pronoun or you lose your job. Now they're going back to can we just be courteous to each other?

That's what gat That's the game he's playing now. I want I agree with you.

That's what gat That's the game he's playing now. I want I agree with you.

I think he tried to create space without I'm taking a stand yes, and that's why I shared on social media earlier today that exact clip we just played, and I just said, Gavin Newsom, yes or no? Should men be able to compete in women's sports?

I think he tried to create space without I'm taking a stand yes, and that's why I shared on social media earlier today that exact clip we just played, and I just said, Gavin Newsom, yes or no? Should men be able to compete in women's sports?

Now?

Now?

It didn't even take him saying they shouldn't. This is from the leaders of the LGBTQ Caucus in California.

It didn't even take him saying they shouldn't. This is from the leaders of the LGBTQ Caucus in California.

This just drop buck.

This just drop buck.

You you left out the IA plus plus and I'm I'm literally shaking right now.

You you left out the IA plus plus and I'm I'm literally shaking right now.

Literally shaking. Here's what they said.

Literally shaking. Here's what they said.

We woke up profoundly sickened and frustrated by these remarks. All students deserve the academic and health benefits of sports activity until Donald Trump began obsessing about it, playing on a team consistent with one's gender has not been a problem since the standard was passed in twenty thirteen. That is the California Legislative LGBTQ Caucus saying they are profoundly sickened and frustrated by the cut that we just played for you. Now, Buck, the media is actually taking this. I think I can't believe I'm saying this. They're a little bit taking Gavin Newsome out of context and saying that he basically opposed I wish he had trust me, but he didn't.

We woke up profoundly sickened and frustrated by these remarks. All students deserve the academic and health benefits of sports activity until Donald Trump began obsessing about it, playing on a team consistent with one's gender has not been a problem since the standard was passed in twenty thirteen. That is the California Legislative LGBTQ Caucus saying they are profoundly sickened and frustrated by the cut that we just played for you. Now, Buck, the media is actually taking this. I think I can't believe I'm saying this. They're a little bit taking Gavin Newsome out of context and saying that he basically opposed I wish he had trust me, but he didn't.

Really, he kind of played both sides.

Really, he kind of played both sides.

He listened to this question that Hakeem Jefferies just got on Capitol Hill about these comments.

He listened to this question that Hakeem Jefferies just got on Capitol Hill about these comments.

So listen to this, Buck.

So listen to this, Buck.

I want to ask about Kapoony Governor Gavin Newsom's comments saying that Democrats were in the wrong for line.

I want to ask about Kapoony Governor Gavin Newsom's comments saying that Democrats were in the wrong for line.

Transgender athletes to compete in female girls sports. What is your response to that after Democrats had opposed the women and girls in these sports.

Transgender athletes to compete in female girls sports. What is your response to that after Democrats had opposed the women and girls in these sports.

I haven't.

I haven't.

Seen his comments. What democrats opposed was unleashing sexual predators on girls throughout the United States of America.

Seen his comments. What democrats opposed was unleashing sexual predators on girls throughout the United States of America.

Does he an honest question, honest question? Does he just have no idea? What's going on?

Does he an honest question, honest question? Does he just have no idea? What's going on?

Like?

Like?

Is he just not a total moron?

Is he just not a total moron?

That's a Keem Jefferies, that's the House Minority leader for Let me say this, Buck, the question was actually wrong. The sport that the sorry, the reporter said that Gavin Newsom said something he did not right. We just heard the clips he did it say, But that still doesn't explain the answer from hockey. What is he what is he talking about? I have no idea. I have no idea what he's talking predators with the high school sports thing. I have no idea what he is even potentially trying to say in that answer. But this is how cooked, Buck, they are on this issue that they can't even respond. And by the way, let me say this, Hakeem Jeffries, I'm not sure what his athletic background is Gavin Newsom was a college pitcher, he played college sports. Every single man in America that played high school or college sports, if you played sports after puberty in high school or college, you know what BS. A grown ass man deciding to identify as a woman is. Every single one. Keeme Jeffries knows this. Every black dude in America, every white dude in America, every Hispanic dude in America, every Asian dude in America, every single person who played high school or college sports knows this is complete BS. But but woke mind virus buck is so powerful for them that they have to stand up there and lie and sound as crazy as a Keem Jefferies did in order so far to remain in good standing. Give you another example of this. We had mentioned Bill Maher before, who I think is also more making tactical retreats than ideological conversions on issues. But he he is, you know, he is willing to say and has been before even this election, that some of the stuff that his side is doing is just nuts and self defeating. He doesn't like the school marm. You're not allowed to say this, You're not allowed to say that stuff. He's never liked that the only place. I mean, I think you and him crossover on this play. I would largely agree with the two. He's pretty solid on the First Amendment when it comes to free speech.

That's a Keem Jefferies, that's the House Minority leader for Let me say this, Buck, the question was actually wrong. The sport that the sorry, the reporter said that Gavin Newsom said something he did not right. We just heard the clips he did it say, But that still doesn't explain the answer from hockey. What is he what is he talking about? I have no idea. I have no idea what he's talking predators with the high school sports thing. I have no idea what he is even potentially trying to say in that answer. But this is how cooked, Buck, they are on this issue that they can't even respond. And by the way, let me say this, Hakeem Jeffries, I'm not sure what his athletic background is Gavin Newsom was a college pitcher, he played college sports. Every single man in America that played high school or college sports, if you played sports after puberty in high school or college, you know what BS. A grown ass man deciding to identify as a woman is. Every single one. Keeme Jeffries knows this. Every black dude in America, every white dude in America, every Hispanic dude in America, every Asian dude in America, every single person who played high school or college sports knows this is complete BS. But but woke mind virus buck is so powerful for them that they have to stand up there and lie and sound as crazy as a Keem Jefferies did in order so far to remain in good standing. Give you another example of this. We had mentioned Bill Maher before, who I think is also more making tactical retreats than ideological conversions on issues. But he he is, you know, he is willing to say and has been before even this election, that some of the stuff that his side is doing is just nuts and self defeating. He doesn't like the school marm. You're not allowed to say this, You're not allowed to say that stuff. He's never liked that the only place. I mean, I think you and him crossover on this play. I would largely agree with the two. He's pretty solid on the First Amendment when it comes to free speech.

That's about it, right.

That's about it, right.

For a long time, I mean, but he's been very solid on that issue for a long time.

For a long time, I mean, but he's been very solid on that issue for a long time.

But here he is. He's talking to one of the pods Save Bros.

But here he is. He's talking to one of the pods Save Bros.

These were some of the young Obama White House speech writers, and they have a podcast that at one point had a big following and it's gone down a lot from minunderstanding. But whatever, he's talking to him, and this is fascinating. There's a long study that was done, a ten year long study that was done about the outcomes for people that have trans surgeries. And Bill maher is up is pointing out that this study was intentionally withhel then hidden because the guess what, the outcomes are bad. This is not good because we're told all the time, if you don't give gender affirming care, people commit suicide, the worst kind of moral blackmail. In reality, the people who go through the quote gender firming care formerly known as a sex change operation, so we called it, you know, back in the nineties and before a sex change operation have terrible long term outcomes, and they justify this hiding this guy justifies it.

These were some of the young Obama White House speech writers, and they have a podcast that at one point had a big following and it's gone down a lot from minunderstanding. But whatever, he's talking to him, and this is fascinating. There's a long study that was done, a ten year long study that was done about the outcomes for people that have trans surgeries. And Bill maher is up is pointing out that this study was intentionally withhel then hidden because the guess what, the outcomes are bad. This is not good because we're told all the time, if you don't give gender affirming care, people commit suicide, the worst kind of moral blackmail. In reality, the people who go through the quote gender firming care formerly known as a sex change operation, so we called it, you know, back in the nineties and before a sex change operation have terrible long term outcomes, and they justify this hiding this guy justifies it.

Play clip thirty.

Play clip thirty.

There was a very big story this year. It was in the front page of the New York Times. A woman I forget her name, and she had done like it was a ten year study, did not release it on purpose because she said it would weaponize the argument from the other side.

There was a very big story this year. It was in the front page of the New York Times. A woman I forget her name, and she had done like it was a ten year study, did not release it on purpose because she said it would weaponize the argument from the other side.

So, in other words, it came out not the way you wanted the study to come out, not what you said. It is a mixed bag. That's true. Okay, some people, yes, it's the right thing. But to take that risk at that age before you note about anything, yes, sometimes it's pretty obvious. It's a very hard call to make. And again, this was a very long study, very thorough, and they wouldn't release it because it came out with the wrong conclusion.